So half the gas stations in my town are selling these "mushroom gummies". I did a little research and found that they contain 4-ACO-DMT. Which actually does get converted by your liver into psilocybin. So they are essentially selling shrooms at every head shop and half the gas stations in the country right now. Seems like this is my only chance to try shrooms because I dont have friends who grow them and I am not cool enough to be offered drugs by people. I guess this thread can be Psychedelics general if you want. Does anyone have any ideas on how to best use mushrooms? Specifically inducing religious experiences or changing my default programming of my brain are what I would like to go for.
>>42584736Just somewhere very comfortable, possibly that feels like home. Recomend doing them with someone you trust, being in nature is always the best
>>42584736Don't do drugs, but if you are being forced at gunpoint, find a quiet place, most people do DMT "wrong" by not finding a place to sleep. It will conk you the fuck out, worse if you're still standing. The best way to induce specific visions is to have something to hypervisualize and focus on. An image. A specific picture of something on a screen or artwork frame, and if it's the last thing on your mind before a vision takes you, that's where you'll start. You can "preload" lucid dreaming by taking it before actual sleep. It guarantees vivid dreams. Overdose and you may degydrate. Fatally. So have water nearby. If you become addicted you may end up on a drip feed. Try to avoid becoming an addict. Avoid.
>>42584736Don't you risk to believe you can fly and jump through the window or something?
>>42584736It’s appalling seeing these products on shelves everywhere. Shameful. Just grow your own and don’t give these companies any business.
I do not advise using these
>>42584807It's hilarious when you understand the method of which these were loosed upon the public. A loop in a bylaw basically allowed for it to be released because the algorithms defending against drugs don't see Psilocibin as the primary component of this drug due to the way it intermeshes with the carbanoids. It's the thinnest line loophole but get this, it was PREDICTIVE in the algorithm. That means that the whole thing is in time with people becoming aware of things with the Epstien files. They really want LSD epidemic 2.0 so that people stop asking questions. It's so perfect I'd weep, if the majority of people they're marketing to hadn't been killed off. Anon. I know things. Terrible things. Dark times are coming.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiqbJ0Gtb44
>>42584813Tl;dr the blend is psilocin, and 2 other synthetic psilocybin analoguesThe problem is these are not dose controlled. I do not advise.
>>42584777Do you try to make that religious awakening happen or is best not to try to make anything happen because youre meant to be giving up control
>>42584736Dark room by yourself or with a trusted pet/friend/family/romantic partner Clean the house before, play music while cleaning(do it in a good mood), smudge the house using sage/rosemary/thyme or even pine twigs/needles while saying a blessing/prayer. Write down any goals. And have fun
>>42584777only do them in nature if you're experienced or with a trip sitter. otherwise you'll feel every living thing out there watching if not preying on you
>>42584921fairies are cunts and bitches watch me take a shit and jack off..
>>42584801People commit suicide sober everyday too. I know tons of people who have eaten shrooms without doing dumb shit. The lesson society should learn is dumb people shouldn’t do drugs and we shouldn’t legislate away freedoms for smart people just because dumb people can’t handle a mushroom that grows in cow shit
>>42584835>They really want LSD epidemic 2.0 so that people stop asking questions. That’s why they made LSD illegal in the 60’s you dummy. They figured out it was useless as mind control and made people ask questions
>>42584939>fairies are cunts and bitches watch me take a shit and jack off.You sound like a pleasant person to be around. How’s the weather in Tel Aviv lately?
>>42584949It succeeded. It got people asking the 'wrong' questions. Got them all fucked up and confused. We still have wallstreet don't we? Question, did you ever ask yourself, is that wall to keep people out, or to protect them from what's within?
>>42584736I got possessed (still possessed) on mushrooms anon. I wouldn’t do them.
>>42584954>’wrong questions’Like what?Psychedelics were made illegal because their intended use cases were proven ineffective unless combined with more effective methods like starvation, electrical shock and repetitive subliminals. Even then their methods were better at erasing memory then controlling behavior and more effective without LSD.LSD is actually a wonder drug proven in many case studies from the 50’s into the 60’s of children and adults being healed of incredible trauma.Often times these records were destroyed (by order of the regulatory bodies) but some doctors saved the studies and showed that psychedelics heal everything from cancer to incestual abuse
>>42584965That sucks because most people report positive experiences. People like you should stay away from drugs. You sound mentally unstable
>>42584965you're not possessed, you just finally got to see the beings who hold onto your loosh leash. all of us loosh pets have higher dimensional owners
>>42584801Just think like a duck or something, they start on the groundReally, anyone dumb enough to jump out a window thinking they can fly is better off out of the gene pool
>>42584736I've had the exact product you posted (same flavor too!) I was in your shoes, thinking a LEGAL mushroom product was too good to be true. It is. Completely forgettable experience. It's not even remotely as powerful as you're probably imagining or as they describe on the packaging. No "mushroom" product is, assuming you're in the states.I first took 3, then 5. And 5 was no different than a 20-30 D9 gummy but with a noticeable mood boost and some subtle visual distortions. Maybe you'll get better results with all 8, but you're probably better off going to the Netherlands if you're that curious. Kinda tasted like ass too. Maybe they've improved it since.
>>42584736I've tried these out of curiosity. Never tried shrooms before but I have done LSD a few times.I took it, set my intention to discover more about myself and consciousness, then about 30 minutes later when I began to feel the effects come on, I started meditating.I ended up having a very significant experience and came away feeling spiritually "refreshed". All told, it didn't last very long (maybe about 5 hours), but while the trip was going, I was seeing the geometric, fractal visuals just like LSD and felt like I was communing with and and a part of the same familiar universal loving unity.So if you're like me and OP where you don't have friends that grow, it's a good substitute.
>>42584736is this shit really better than grinding up a few table spoons of morning glory seeds and extracting the alkaloids into some ethanol? Did that and the trip went bad fast when I was thinking about how it was going good. I guess just don't have the hubris of thinking you can master it and make sure you have a question that you have faith will be answered. >>42584940Steiner seems to attract the extremes of the bell curve, either the most basic bitch theosophical-lite types who wanna make their Christianity spicy, or legitimate sages who commune with nature spirits on the daily.
I highly doubt those are actually psychedelic I have tried similar gas station ""psychedelic"" mushrooms. Its all the bad parts of a psychedelic experience and none of the good. I wouldn't even call it a psychedelic experience. Weed is probably more psychoactive-ly interesting than whatever that is
>>42584736Its not 4 aco dmt its 4 HO MET. I took 16 of these one time and found out my real name is isaiah. I also vaguely remember realizing what God's true purpose for us is all I can really remember is that one day we will all stop being ourselves and become one to complete God.
>>42584975That’s right, defend those drugs you good little junkie goy
>>42585043I mean there is still no reason to go all the way to the netherlands if you are in the U.S. You can buy a "grow bag" on amazon and spores from several websites and its literally as easy as injecting the culture into the grow bag and throwing it into your closet. They have growing them totally retard proof now. But its still going to cost you 200 bucks whereas you can get the gas station gummies for 30 or something
always aim for the heroic dose
i've heard some people get sick from types that use amara
>>42585283smart.>>42585311yeah the amanita itself is straight up toxic I believe. Cant believe they sell those
>>42585068I would have never believed they are real but I bought some "hemp gummies" at a gas station that be me stoned as fuck so I no longer doubt gas station shit.
>>42585043And somehow you just happen to know what ass tastes like...
>>42584795You're talking about n,n-Dimethyltryptamine. 4-AcO-DMT is not the same thing and does not produce the effects of DMT.Like OP said, it does get converted into Psilocin when it gets metabolized(Psilocybin also converts to Psilocin when metabolized) and even tho it's not exactly quite like a shroom trip, it's supposed to be as close as you can get.There are other analogs such as 4-HO-MET and 4-HO-MIPT that are psilocin analogs that have their own distinctive characteristics and the latter has more weirdness to it than the former.
Does anyone have experience with mushrooms at the Initiative 81 shops in Washington DC?
>>42585043If you didn't feel anything that's because they were bunk. Go buy salts of different analogues of psilocin and you'll see that when you actually can measure the dose and that you actually have the compound, you will trip.
>>42584951if only you knew how retarded these cunts are
Heroic Dose + 10 hours straight on OSRS in a white room, at night time, during a lightning storm, all alone. It's impossible to achieve this safelyYou will get seriously injured mentally and physically - not to mention spiritually. DO NOT TRY.
>>42584736I've done these and actual mushrooms, a very different experience.These caused me to feel feverish (my temp didn't actually go high, but just felt warm as hell and my nose felt stuffy), and I felt stupid as fuck (like taking an edible but none of the fun sides). Magic mushrooms were a very good experience, but one I need to take time away from. I took a low dose, but saw minor fractals, and the end of my high felt like a symphony crashing in my head, coming to a lot of confounding conclusions it also helped a lot with my depression that month. I'm a /mu/ dork so I listened to a lot of music my recs would be find a couch and your nicest stereo (headphones made me freak out) and put on 90's Wall of Sound guitar type music (Hum, Smashing Pumpkins, etc...) or shoegaze also get a friend in a comfortable environment either your house or there's or a concert close to your house (if its a option) that no one is gonna give a fuck if your stoned out of your mind but only do that if you've done it before.
>>42585216no one is a junkie for shrooms you retarded jew
>>42585053>is this shit really better than grinding up a few table spoons of morning glory seeds and extracting the alkaloids into some ethanol?That's really bad for you. On par with what prisoners do.LSD is derived from ergotomine alkaloids which can can cause headache, nausea, liver DAMAGE, muscle cramps, and extreme vasoconstriction, which can, in turn, cause frostbite like damage to your fingertips and toes. The muscle craps can cause miscarriages, and one ergotomine derivative is even used to induce labor.If you are not a chemist then just buy it from someone who knows what they are doing, and NEVER buy anything sourced from China, because you never know what they actually put in there.
>>42585270Synthesizing dmt from mimosa hostillis root bark is pretty easy too. You can order it from Mexicanfarm. Com
>>42584954Actually retarded person here I use the word person loosely
Selling psilo as a good is such a dick move, lmao
>>42586993Granted, LSA is the poor man’s psychedelic but I’ve never heard of this shit happening with actual acid.
>>42584736Pro tip they sell these online Here: https://etherealgoldalchemy.com/ you have to verify your age but you dont have to send your photo ID or anything like that, gonna test them for myself, happy tripping yall
>>42584843I used them a few times. They weren't as mind altering as psilocybin, but still enjoyable.The packaging stated that they were extracted tryptamines.
>>42589076Psilocybin has to convert to psilocyn anyway It’s all dose dependent
>>42584843Yes they are dosed controlled
>>42586993gtfo you retarded little DARE nigger
>>42584736you'll either love it or be full of tasty regret
>>42584736These things fucking blow. Kaleidoscope mental trip that left me feeling shakey. Nothing like the real things and the definition of artificial high.
>>42589229I've took shrooms before and felt like I had a foreign alien living in my brain controlling my hallucinations intelligently. Hopefully it's like that, cause I want to be a guinea pig. I want to develop psionic hallucinatory powers by perm frying my 5-ht2 receptors to give me psychic holograms imposed on the world.
>>42584736I got these just now, I took 5 and it's been 20 minutes and I feel like I'm coming up on shrooms from yawning and stretching, Got this image off of reddit.
>>42590399In second thought it was anti climatic, nothing happening right now. Maybe another bogus gummie brand not having the good stuff in it. I spent 22 dollars on pricey candies.
>>42589238Please don’t anon Go to church instead
>>42590476I'm gonna get me a wife at church and have sex with her and make numerous babies. I don't even believe in god, lol
>>42584736I have used these twice and I don’t recommend them unless you are like suicidally depressed and really desperate I ate the entire bag once and 2 bags the other time and I think it gave me ptsd and I had chest pains from anxiety
>>42590484Go to confession
>>42590488I ate half the bag of these and all It does is make me mildly euphoric and yawning. gonna finish the bag now just to see if it actually is psychedelic. I want 4-aco-dmt so bad, it's sounds like mushroom vyvanse.Wouldn't buy again cause 5 didn't even make me hallucinate.
>>42590522if you want a religious experience go vegan
>>42590399>>42590457gummies dont usually work fast bud, it takes at least 2 hours for them to kick in when your body starts absorbing them, the first hour or so they just sit in your stomach being liquified by stomach acid. When your stomach empties into the intestines after 1-2 hours thats when you start absorbing them and feeling the drug
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WRRwA7JvXc
>>42590522nigga you need to go on r/mysterymagicmushrooms and see which products people have had good experiences with. there are a lot of fake shits. the best brands are silly dots and xum
>>42588973No decently made LSD would have any of these ergotomine alkaloids in it. If you know experienced LSD users they will sometimes talk about "strychnine" (which is incorrect) acid that causes "muscle aches", because it was not isolated properly.Hawaiian Baby Woodrose seeds aren't quite that bad, but Ergot mold (from which 99% of LSD is made) can be.There's a theory that Salem Witch trials were caused by a mass poisoning of the town by Ergot tainted bread.>>42589186I probably read Pihkal and Tihkal before you were born.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PiHKALhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TiHKAL
>>42590484why would you want to make kids on this gore horror world?
>>42591660>I probably read Pihkal and Tihkal before you were born.You are trying to flex about reading elementary texts while talking down to your better. How boring.
>>42590531im vegan wheres my experience. actually maybe it was when i took way to much lsd and felt a massive mental impact at the peak of my trip. it fucked me up gave me a bit of hppd but i am probaly a better person now for the experience.
>>42586993Jesus christ, we have dare officers on /x/?!
>>42584736Road trip reformulated a few months before the end of 2025. It’s not a psilocybin precursor anymore, it’s something else. The visuals are dialed up to 11 but you barely get any of that psychedelic headspace/thought process.
Daily reminder: demons are real. You can meet them on psychedelics and get possessed. You can also develop schizophrenia. Be careful anons.
>>42584975Interesting how you "enlightened" peacenik druggies are always so hostile towards anyone who experienced any kind of negative reaction towards your panacea.
>>42584835>>42584835>Terrible things. Dark times are coming.These religious freaks have been saying this for 2000 years. The world is getting better. We have technology now. We live longer. We live better than kings used to live. But hey, terrible times are coming. Give me a break.
I don't know why everyone is telling you to do chores and homework. Just do the drugs and have a good time. Mushrooms only give you a bad time if you're unpure of heart & soul.
>>42591736I was being facetious.>>42591086Yeah, they had some weird effect on my but not mushrooms. Would not take again or buy again. Pretty much a waste of money.
>>42592827Ok retard
>>42584940>The lesson society should learn is dumb people shouldn’t do drugs and we shouldn’t legislate away freedoms for smart people just because dumb people can’t handle a mushroom that grows in cow shitstop being rayciss!!!
>>42592655most demons are little petty bitches that you can stomp on and smack around, sometimes even outright kill them. demons aren't scary. they try to make you think they are, but nothing really stops you from smashing them. usually they all flee when they realize what they're up against.
>>42584736>Seems like this is my only chance to try shrooms because I dont have friends who grow themYou can buy spores online and grow them yourself. Some years back I was suicidal and wanted to get it off my bucket list, so I went in with zero experience and it was actually very easy with just a little bit of reading. A few mishaps here and there, but overall a cinch. If they actually contain 4-ACO-DMT that's probably a close enough analog to get the right experience, but as I understand it a lot of "mushroom gummies" use extract from amanita muscaria, which also has psychoactive properties but is a different experience entirely. If you've already done your research, I won't try to dissuade you. DMT and mushrooms went a long way towards saving my life, truthfully.>Does anyone have any ideas on how to best use mushrooms?1. Before ANYTHING ELSE, I recommend not trying to jump straight in at full force, first try. I was extremely cautious, experimenting with incredibly small doses to begin with and slowly working my way up over a couple months. I wanted to understand and get comfortable with the sensations and thought patterns before going all the way. That way, when you do go deeper, you're not completely lost. Experience with the lighter trips brings about familiarity with the sensations and thought patterns, and familiarity brings comfort. Bad trips can always happen, but if you go in already familiar with the mental landmarks it can go a long way towards orienting yourself again.2. Do NOT take more than you originally decided on because you feel like "nothing is happening." It takes some time to fully convert to a psychoactive substance inside your body, and you might not feel the effects for an hour or more. Often, it sneaks up on you, and you don't even realize you're in the trip until an experiential switch flips inside your head and you realize the world is not only moving, but has been for a while.
>>425942563. Don't be at a party, don't be outside, don't be in a vehicle, don't be anywhere in an environment with lots of, or uncontrollable, sound and movement. Start sitting or lying down, in a dark room. Turn on a music playlist if you want. As you become more comfortable with the sensations of the mental state and more experienced in how it feels, you can reintroduce light to the equation. Mushrooms make the world around you brighter, more colorful, and just visually stunning. It feels like you see clearer, in better than normal 3D, at a higher "framerate" than your every day experience. It's a great experience, but will probably lead you away from meditative religious thought. The best for that is to just keep your eyes closed and think. It might sound boring, but if you just sit with your eyes closed and think while on psychedelics, you'll learn how beautiful your inner world actually is. You might be amazed by it.4. If you can access DMT (N,N-DMT), I recommend it before mushrooms. Reason being it metabolizes way, way faster, so the trip is done within 30 minutes instead of 6 hours. It's better for onboarding because it minimizes the potential harm of bad trips or extended difficult experience. Likewise, despite people playing up the idea of it being a stronger experience than mushrooms, the truth is that it, like anything else you ingest, can be dose-adjusted to fit the experience you want. Literally just have less. If you are responsible, it is easy to make it as tame an experience as you want, with a much more restricted duration that can be very helpful.
>>42592827>We live better than kings used to live.Then why do we play Crusader Kings?
>>42584835>They really want LSD epidemic 2.0 so that people stop asking questions.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law
