do you guys think that someone can be born with a soul of the opposite gender? not in the sense that they are trans (wich is mostly a modern perversion of gender dynamics) but the fact that inner core of someone can be from the opposite gender. an example, an efeminate guy can have a female soul or a stone butch lesbian can have a male soul, or just a sensitive straight man can have a female soul and a authoritarian straight woman can have a male soul. i think there are a lot of variation on the human gene so the possibility is there>souls are genderlesswhat if they aren't?
>>42585559Yes. I am one. It doesn't mean you are gay or trans, it actually means you are closer in archetype to Odin than anything else. Mastery of magic requires masculine discipline and faculty, but also requires feminine intuition and visualization. Another way of saying it, is you were born with your anima already integrated into your consciousness, meaning the stage is set for the divine marriage, without you needing to do any preparation. You are called to magic, my friend.
>>42585559No. Men and women can share behaviors traditionally associated with feminine or masculine, yet be themselves - as they were born. So, no, you be born in a wrong body or have a female soul for the reasons I have previously mentioned - souls don't have sexes, biological beings do as it is necessary for the way we reproduce.
>>42585599Masculine and feminine principle predates the first sexually reproducing organism. The void is female, the energetic singularity at the begininng of time within that voidwomb is masculine. Getting hung up on the sexual reproduction nature of these principles is infantile.
>>42585559No I don't want to be a girl in the next life retard you're making this thread to terrorize me for fantasizing about being a trillionaire male god of my own reality in a reality where everyone else has independent consciousnesses (or is controlled by me) instead of being controlled by the retarded tranny God of this world as a retarded tranny hivemind that only exists so that he can abuse me through them as he forces me to exist as the sole frame of reference for material reality and only persistently real person in the world while h lies and says that "I'm the God of my reality" meanwhile if I fantasize about actually being the God of my own reality or for non-persistent npcs to exist for any other reason than for him to abuse me through them he gets immensely triggered and starts harassing, abusing, terrorizing, threatening etc me by making threads like this for example threatening to force me to exist as a female in the next life because obviously I'm not the God of my own reality and don't control my reality whatsoever, you would literally be getting tortured right now for threatening me if I was God of my own reality, God wouldn't exist, other people have independent consciousnesses they wouldn't be a retarded tranny hivemind that only exists so that God can abuse me through them. This world is literal hell and God is a retarded sadistic tranny
>>42585559>>42585559Souls incarnate as sexed from generlessness.High consciousness-expanding God-knowing forms of sexual energy transfer is uncommon. but for those who have had these experiences, you will see for yourself what Walter Russell is talking about.
>Tranny in the hard drive
>>42585670Walter Russel postulated homosexuality is a sign of the degradation of a species.
>>42585612Botpost
>>42585584what are your thoughs on divine marriage? there is lot of traditions like krishnaism or the catholic saint john of the cross wich engages on the fact that the soul is femenine and longing for x deity. there is a interesting dynamic where the female soul is receptive (meaning it can contain things) and the male god is reactive (wich is the give all things). saint john wrote about God like if he was a horned being with a very virile potencial and the soul as a longing, ache being who inner desired is to be possesed or spiritually impregnated
>>42585612what?
>>42585599>souls don't have sexesi alrededy imply on the thread to ignore this, gender is a reality that exist before living beings even started to exist
i think so but a lot of people here will disagree. I think that our souls have preferences for the vessels they're housed in, just like how some people prefer to wear different types of clothes for comfort and their personal sense of style. i think some part of life is coping with our imperfections and learning to live with them, but we should also seek to mitigate our discomfort when we can.
>>42585701Explain how/why you think this.The being which created/generated MATTER and TIME is not a man or a women. This being is ''before'' male/female so to speak.
>>42585715at a tecnical base, having a male body is actually a very practical thing, you are way more athletic and physically strong than a woman, you dont have cramps, you can endure things better, but that fact that the soul choice is based on a practical level doesnt equal the fact that the soul and the body can get along. maybe the soul doesn't have a complete awareness of what does entails to have a specific body and they choose a vessel on instinct without actually being totally cohesive with the soul nature
>>42585730there are things that preceded gender, but a lot of things came after it, i am just saying that gender may not be the first thing to be created but one of the first things to be overlapped with creation
>>42585744i think it's moreso related to destiny than to the choice of the soul as to what body we're born into
>>42585755omnipotentomniscientomnipresentMan's ''best'' creation story is still a story coming from an exceedingly limited mind.
>>42585559Yeah I was reading a bunch of reincarnation cases and there are examples of certain people dying as males and then in their next life in female bodies become total dikes
>>42585612Hello Mossad
>>42585674>postulatedjust say he believed, or he alleged, because that's all it wasadding a big word to try giving something more gravity than it deserves is what a midwit doesdon't be a midwit, anon
>>42585559OP here. I'm trans btw
Being back that you have any personality besides hating femoids you are interested I can get the latest version for the use was the first batch in a haunted by a lot
>>42585942You are contributing nothing aside from showcasing to the world you're a lonely, hurt, poor loser who engages in personal attacks upon anonymous commenters on the internet. people like walter russell were FAR beyond "belief" retard
>>42586031>people like walter russell were FAR beyond "belief" retardnobody is beyond beliefthere's a reason why faith is a virtue and not a random occurence
>>42585559Troon (with affection, im a chaser)
>>42586062Those who receive 1000s of years worth of information in milliseconds are beyond belief. You wouldn't know. KNOWING is what beings of these ranks show up with in the world.Idiots like the one's who use passive aggression and ad-hominem attacks will likely know nothing of the sort in their pathetic lives.
>>42586031ironic, the only one making ad hominems here is youI was just trying to save you from embarrassment, and mocking the idea that a failed painter is some great wise man whose dumbass opinions should be spoken of on the level of a postulatea POSTULATE nowlol, I don't think so...
>>42586100You are a complete fucking loser.Postulate and hypothesize are both verbs used to suggest an idea or theory, but their use cases differ based on their relationship to evidence.YES, HE EXPRESSED AN IDEA.
>>42585607This is also wrong. Gender is the shadows on the cave wall we see and use to interpret the inaccessible outside.Break your shackles and you shall see.
>>42586096>Idiots like the one'slolspeaking with confidence won't make you sound wiser
>>42585693You pretty much got it right. But i see the divine marriage as attainable in life without theosis necessarily, i believe the divine marriage is something like becoming aware of jungian syzygy and uniting your anima with your ego (or the thing under/above it). I find the soul contains both male and female parts and what is surface and what is unconscious is usually determined by birth sex, but in the case of men who feel like they have "feminine souls" this means they are just born with a conscious rather than unconscious anima.
>>42586115No it isn't. You are assuming that the world outside of perception is dead. Death itself is an illusion and the gnostic conceit of matter being unalive is cancer.Life itself predates existence itself, and life is dual even when in singularity. Masculine and feminine united. Understand the taijitu, materialist.
>>42586282i am not really a fan of jung, and i also think the soul (at its core) is a single entity with no division, but i do understeand your point. what do you mean when you say that femenine men are concious rather than unconcious?
>>42586296What i mean is the felt experience of being a man that feels his soul is feminine means that the feminine aspect of his soul is in his consiousness and not in his subconsiocusness, like it is with men who feel like a masculine soul, it is not so much a separation, as it is rather half of your soul you are usually aware of, and it comports to your physical self usually. When you are born with an anima (i like jungian terms because it makes the most sense to me, sorry if my language is off putting) that you are consious of, it is easier to enter into a relationship with it without going into altered states or having to do therapy.
>>42586313its okay if you use jungian lenguage if that makes it easier for you, i am just not a fan of his writtings. in any case, when someone is born with an anima in his concious side, what does this entails? what can i do with this information?
>>42585559Stupid question, you are who you are and you have what you have in present circumstances. Either make the best of them to effect your Will, or be overcome by the world and cope in unhealthy ways.
>>42586296In a less esoteric way of saying it, individuals tend to be naturally more inclined to be either penetrating or receptive (those ideas being what we socially relate to as male or female respectively) when we get in touch with the capacity to be in the other mode instead of banishing it to the subconscious by acting on the belief it’s contradicted by its complement and therefore not part of us, the ability to inhabit both natures opens the possibility of the productive synthesis of our will.For Jung the anima/animus is like an “inner wife” or “inner husband” we encounter in the unconscious and “marriage” is the realization of its influence brought to consciousness. Which is why in Jungian dream analysis, the archetypal reading is that a figure of the opposite gender represents information from your own subconscious counterpart. Esotericism aside humans understand things in terms of images and symbols so the idea of your brain producing a woman to represent your receptive side seems to track on a mechanical level.
>>42585559Gender is a cultural construct. “Being” a gender is always a performance with social utility.Meanwhile, sex is biology. Our hormones and genes mediate reproductive fitness.No other claims can be made. Philosophically, gender can map on to concepts like anima and animus. You could also use it metaphorically for things like wires.Hope this helps!
>>42586926so what is the end goal?
>>42585701I think you're already mentally disturbed if you need a false, man-made construct such as "gender" to exist even before "sex itself" did, as the "gender" was created by those of male sex predators. There's no gender son. There never was one. There was only biological sex, which itself can have some interesting conditions but in no case you're "born in a wrong body". That's impossible and a sign of either of one of two things - being a disgusting tranny or you suffer from split personality disorder.
>>42587087>That's impossible and a sign of either of one of two things - being a disgusting tranny or you suffer from split personality disorder.trannies arent disgusting. trannies are sensitive people with kind souls.
>>42586992end?you'll wish there wasn't an eternity
>>42585559You don't have todo mental gymnastics just because you think you're trans. The subhumans who told you it's "a perversion of gender dynamics" don't matter. Don't let the judgment of greasy nazi shut-ins block your future <3
>>42587087you are so wrong for so many reasons and easily angered out of prejudice
>>42585559No, and it's coming from a rather feminine guy. Mostly because gendered energy doesn't really work the way you are thinking. Everyone has a primary gendered energy due to their body, but ethereally you have both a male and female half. A man has an energetic female spirit connected to them and vice versa for women, and while they are you they also aren't actually "you" per say. This combined with your personal energy being strong or weak causes a person to behave as a different gender than their physical, though trans is its own separate thing and an illness. Theoretically if your energetic integration is fantastic, it may be possible to alter your gender/sex by swapping back and forth but that is some real magus tier shit but not unheard of in myth. For mortals though, don't think too hard on things and behave as if your energetic gender is the same as your physical sex or you will screw yourself up.
>>42585559That isnt soul, that is ego. Part of the subtle/mental/astral body. But yes you can absolutely have a mismatch between your mental body and your physical.If you want to talk about soul gender, then technically we are all women and the only man is God.
>>42585813yyyep.
>>42585559>do you guys think that someone can be born with a soul of the opposite gender?No, because gender is an abstraction made to categorize extremes of a spectrum, much like any sort of fabricated human concept. You could, however, be born with natural propensity to be more feminine in certain areas. Or in most areas. Human behavior is all within spectrums after all, we correspond to inate tendencies of our soul. For instance:>I like powerlifting, guns, computer maintenance and martial arts (yang)>I also like gardening, cooking and taking care of old people (yin)Most disfunctional degenerate behavior comes from people giving too much of a fuck about what others expects from social/sexual behavior and trying to fit in the logical boxes that our fucked up culture creates. We try to adapt to the types and categories, not the other way around. Imagine thinking stereotypes are something objective. To adapt one's natural inclinations with this world's habits is always a great challenge. If it isn't, you are probably just a well adapted normalfag who fits anywhere they tell you to.
>>42587940sexuality isn't a spectrum
>>42587940>>42588024i meant, identity
>>42588024>>42588028Everything about the human mind is within a spectrum.
>>42588227the human mind isn't a band of visible colors from refracted light
>>42585559Gender isn't a virtue. It doesn't imbue you with any of the qualities you apparently desire. Your lack in self is the result of your incompetence not the result of incompatibility.
>>42588380Hormones definitely change your emotions and physical responses to things
>>42588403Emotions aren't a virtue, either. Even there seems to be some horrible trend to confuse them with morality.
>>42588431Dear children, let us not love with words or speech but with actions and in truth.
The bones are solid, but the flesh can oppose the gender of the soul.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHlmncILfMY
>>42588439Correct, feeling is not enough
>>42588448"Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.’This is the first and great commandment.And the second is like unto it: ‘Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself.’On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets."You need to love with your heart.
>>42588468>with all thy heart AND soul AND mindFeeling. Is. Not. Enough.Also love isn't exclusive to a gender.
>>42588483You said emotions aren't a virtue which isn't really true. Compassion is a virtue and that's an emotion. Anything that leads us to good action is a virtue, even emotion. What we do in love is done for God. What we don't do for God we don't do in love.
>>42588489Pity is an emotion, compassion is when you find the courage to act on it virtuously.Feeling is not enough.
>>42585559>someone can be born with a soul of the opposite gender? no >souls are genderlessalso wrong
>>42585559Yes the whole concept of a male soul in a female body, with a female soul in a male body has been known and around in occult and esoteric circles for quite a while.
Gender roles don't exist, that's gotslop.So no, complete bs
>>42585559souls have no gender: they are immortal and thus lack the necessity for procreation, which is the crutch of mortals.its just another physical disability. some false hormonal signaling during pregnancy, due to environmental toxins, etc. is my bet
>>42586292Just becaus you say it, does not make it true. Objective reality exists against your will, apathetic to your beliefs.Like an ant guided by pheromones that can't even begin to abstact the concept of dimension. And not those sci-fi "dimensions". Actual mathematical dimensions. Axis on a plane on a surface ad infinitum.
>>42589577>souls have no gender: they are immortal and thus lack the necessity for procreation, which is the crutch of mortals.>its just another physical disability. some false hormonal signaling during pregnancy, due to environmental toxins, etc. is my betI agree with this interpretation and I am trans. I think that the same way people with leprosy and epilepsy were treated very terribly for a long time and seen as moral failures for a physical disease, trans people are scapegoated this way in modern religious traditions. Just 2 generations ago people had lead poisoning that made them violent, I don't understand why people don't see parallels in our society today and question the root cause of these issues. Either way, I don't believe it effects the circumstances of your soul to have physical/nuerological deformities.
>>42585559You can be possessed with a spirit of the opposite gender or possessed by a spirit that wants you to become the opposite gender. You might be experiencing the latter. The soul is sort of genderless but takes the form you identify with AND project as.>>42585584I disagree with your assumptions. I think you have a desire to be trans and are being pressured to do so by a spirit separate from you. I await your wrath due to my opinion.
>>42585559No, but someone can be raised in a way that developed mental illness. Yes, greek for psyche means "Soul" or "Breath of Life". But that "Soul" can be twisted depending on ones infleunces growing up. Causing to have a nature contrary who who they really are. This contraction leads to suffering, both for the indivual and those around said individual. In some cases the suffering isnt always overt/ obvious though. In cases where the discomfort isn't obvious its usually because they people who surround the individual also sees that way of thinking as normal. But there will still be a discomfort at the Soul level. This can cause one to develop personality disorder like imposter syndrome. What leads to this is at the subconscious level a person knows the truth, but because the people around them accepts what they do as normal they act like something they are not which leads to imposter syndrome.
The body is just a hallucination of the somatosensory system and insula cortex of the human brain. Humans are shapeshifting monkeys that develop through various stages of life to have a sensing, body imaging. Body image is changed through the subtle body through neuromorphic augmentation of the vestibular and proprioceptive cues of the body in relation to itself.It's all imagination, but I've been a woman in out of body experiences., even been raped by a humanoid demon bald guy who made my body slump into a catatonic state and hoisted me in the air in my bedroom while invisible and dry humped my butt. It's like closing your eyes to sleep, and somewhere you are lucid in the house somewhere else in a different body.I even felt a incubus shapeshift their "penis" as they tried to bum rape me while sleeping on my side ( was a dude and had male genitalia this time)Last night I encountered two monsters on my back. One was a ugly dude about my stature in size, and then the other was like a hissing bug demon that rubbed it's abdomen on my butt like a gay bug.I've even had a "kill bite" by big cats while cuddling my friend in a dream. It bit the back of my neck and I felt it's teeth in my neck without pain. Grabbed it's thighs and began squeezing them and it disappeared.Demons are awful violent sexual beings that just molest and harass. and the can flip sex or turn into aliens.
that's quite interesting idea, that part of what we are was born before we became what we are now. i think the entire "perversion of gender dynamics" was inevitable just like the fall of rome, we just think harder beyond what we established, and we realized, nothing is truly unchanging, the woman in the hard drive may end up being something else, and maybe who she powers is also going to change, psysically and mentallyexistence is a constent pervesion of itself, and that's a rule we yet to accept
>>42585701>I hope other people ignore what I disagree with You're doing great, anon. Great discussion.
>>42588498If anything, virtue is the act of doing the right thing BESIDES your emotions.Wan't it or not, you do it either way.Thus virtue is above even your feelings in this context.
>>42585559i know for a fact ive been both male and female in different incarnations, i dont feel an attachment to either genderi wish i could ultimately be a genderless creature like a robot, or like god itself
no it is only the brain
>>42585559Hello friend, ACanon curefag herePost in the next ACanon thread and you will be relieved of the opponent feminine energy that encircles your body
>>42589638do you believe in the soul?
Possibly. But they are absolutely the rare exception and not the norm.
>>42585559Everyone is born with a soul of opposite gender. If you are male then your soul takes form of Anima. If you are female your soul takes form of Animus.
gender doesnt exist.what you mean is sex.stop using enemy language-speak.thread
