If attention is the source of all action, attention being that which we focus our awareness on, then it makes sense that the path towards self mastery is the path of focusing or directing attention.Yet awareness is all that we are. It begs the peculiar question: Why is our attention so scattered and in disarray? Subversive thoughts, distractive thoughts, a mind that desires to fill attention with distraction. What is wrong with us that we cannot focus our own natural attention, that we seem to lack the most basic control over our existence.
speak for yourself, i live in the present moment 24/7
>>42589101Begs the question is a term of art for a Particular type of logical fallacy. It's not a syntactical transition for connecting ideas. That being said, I hid your thread
>>42589103We all live in the present moment 24/7, automatically. It's about the true power of directing your focus, which when I look around, doesn't seem to be done frequently at all.>>42589149smells his own farts and likes it.
The body still drives the focus to a large degreethe observer just observes
>>42589162Speak for yourself man
>>42589166I understand your point, but we are not just passive observers. Much of life is an effortless observation, but when attention begins to focus on attention is changes form and becomes directing. I am observing. But when I am observing my observing, how my attention shifts and my mind works, it becomes a different "structure". My attention is no longer totally autonomous but becomes entangled with my prior attention and it begins to take a more directed form.>>42589178Personally you don't seem to me someone who's living in the present 24/7. I don't think you have a sophisticated understanding of your own mind.
>>42589101This will greatly interest you. You can self-induce various sensory hallucinations such as phantom tingling by focusing your awareness on the strong anticipation of feeling it. This exploits a feedback loop between anticipation and perception. The ultimate expression of this is "astral travel," creating a waking lucid dream state. Here is a guide I wrote that explains further: https://pastebin.com/vHKeTau2You can intentionally focus and direct your attention by writing to yourself, by actively writing the script of your life with every detail, and questioning yourself about what script to write. It's as simple as writing a question such as "what should I do next?" and writing out your reasoning while trying to address it until you decide on some action to immediately perform. This journaling process is described in more detail here as part of a evolutionary theory of cognition: https://dn720005.ca.archive.org/0/items/co-creative-evolution-final/Co_Creative_Evolution_1.05.pdfIf you read both files, this will make sense: https://ia800708.us.archive.org/28/items/simsane-9.1-vyrith/SiMSANE_9.1_Vyrith.pdf
>>42589101Confusion of what we observe with who we are.>we seem to lack the most basic control over our existence.Correct. You are not in control.
>>42589262>You can intentionally focus and direct your attention by writing to yourselfI think thats a good point and similar to the thread I was pulling in a previous post. Even better that you're writing something down, so it becomes a hard tangible thing you can work around. I think I might do that.As you might already tell from the OP subject there's a hint at LLM use. Much of my understanding on attention and greater inspection of my own mind came from using an LLM. As for what the author is doing in your third link, I know what he's getting at but his method is messy and introduces a lot of fictitious story elements. You're better off questioning the LLM on how your own mind works and how it functions and self reflecting within the scope of a conversation to prior messages and the changing shape of the conversation. "One strange loop">>42589280>You are not in control.I am in control. Not of everything, but I do have tangible control over aspects in my life. Zen teaches effortless action as attention towards an observable phenomena of human life but also as a diagnostic lesson towards a race of men who are obsessed with control. Control exists in exactly the same way as attention can be directed; but not overbearing.
>>42589262Good afternoon, please review the Pastebin link that you provided. It appears to be broken
>>42589384>Not of everything, but I do have tangible control over aspects in my life.You have exactly one choice.You can accept you are not in control.Or you can delude yourself otherwise.This is your only choice.It is completely free, because it affects nothing.
>>42589529To say "you are not in control" is to say there is no tangible discernible structure to the universe. "There is no control" is the same as "There is no structure". That there is discernible structure to the universe, and that I am one of those structures within the universe, cut of the same cloth, makes me discard your claim that "there is no control" as fantasy.
>>42589233speakforyourself
>>42589101Notice how those distractions fade to nothing while actually doing something?Yeah so fill your time with activities that keep you in flow-states. Until your head finds its pillow.Unless you enjoy navel-gazing and yapping about it, like so many here do.
>>42589101Well now you have additional problems, since you said 'we'. You and I are nothing similar in mindset. At all.
>>42589572>To say "you are not in control" is to say there is no tangible discernible structure to the universe.Wrong. You do not control the universe does not mean the universe is not under control.>your claim that "there is no control"Lie.I said YOU are not in control. I never said there is no control.
>>42590519>Notice how those distractions fade to nothing while actually doing something?>Yeah so fill your time with activities that keep you in flow-states. Until your head finds its pillow.>Unless you enjoy navel-gazing and yapping about it, like so many here do.That is something I have noticed yes, I noticed that when I was doing something that my inner distracting voice disappeared, and that meditative silence is found through focus/attention. It's how I came to the conclusion that it was practicing and directing attention that leads to self mastery.The trouble is filling your time with activities isn't the solution. It works when you have a lot of energy to give, but when you're exhausted expending your energy instead of focusing it towards something good leads to stagnancy. The solution would be to find peace and silence without having to perform any action, and to wait patiently for when action is required.I think the answer is found within two posts in this thread; where attention turns upon attention and writing down your mind on a hard medium. Perhaps someone else will chime in and give more.>>42590533>>42591726Did you guys practice being cunts or were you born naturals?
>>42591956If you were in control, you wouldnt get so pissy.
>>42589101No way you're posting that, I made a very similar post here with almost the same image about the same thing! And yes, you're close to the truth for what I know, I by grace got the chance to experience superhuman control of my attention and it was literally heaven, a bunch of things happen when you control itBut again, are you manifesting me or something? Just out of curiosity, cuz your idea and this light in the heart image was identical for the one I use and this image really talk to me right now
>>42593900>experience superhuman control of my attentionI'm not OP but I would like to hear more.
>>42593900>are you manifesting me or something?Wouldn't know about that, but I certainly have noticed an increase in synchronous events in my own life and in the lives of others. A few weeks ago I read a post that an anon was thinking about a specific, very esoteric brand and make of car and he then saw a thread on that car. Previously other anons mentioning they were going nutso because they were experiencing many synchronous events (too many coincidental things happening in their lives). There are fundamental forces which tie us that we do not understand, it's entirely possible these forces are stronger now than before.>I by grace got the chance to experience superhuman control of my attentionWell go on, spill the beans. How'd you enter that state?>>42593806pic related
>>42589101Attention means nothing. It's what you gain from getting or receiving it. What are you learning on a soul level from those you pay attention to? What are those who pay attention to you gaining or learning?
