What do?
- Leave the internet at least 2 hours a day.
- Think really hard.

>>42593331

Is Saturn angry that I married my sister, or is he angry about my many lovers?

I'm waiting. But what should I do meanwhile? I don't know if I'll survive next month.

I have a story about Saturn if you'd like to hear it.

>be me (cuz who else)
>experiencing psychosis about two years ago
>can't eat, sleep, smoke, or even use the batthroom without freaking the fuck out due to delusions that Satan is eating my soul, your soul, everyone else's soul
>stuck in a constant mental battle with the devil that I am losing
(this goes somewhere I promise, somewhere crazy)
>basically catatonic for a month straight right (trust me I'm skipping a lot)
>finally start to snap out of it and become sane again (didn't see that coming did ya)
>left arm is totally rekt from not moving at all for a month straight
>AND HERES THE SATURN PART
>there's a inch long red scaly mark on the back of my left middle finger at the base
>turns out in some traditions that specific finger joint is the foundation of the Saturn fingee
>also got a red stigmata on my right hand but that's barely Saturn related

Anyway it's two years later and both marks have not healed.
tl;dr Got a mark from Saturn from mental activity.

>mid Saturn return arc, life decides it’s time for “character development DLC”

housing stability.exe stops working
mold situation in living space
stuff gets damaged/lost
landlord doing landlord things
tiny studio loft life, everything feels temporary and stacked on itself

money situation
$400/month energy
food pantry Wednesdays become part of the calendar structure of reality
“how do I survive the week” becomes a recurring questline

mental health arc goes brrrr
med changes and adjustments (antipsychotics in the mix)
akathisia shows up like “hi I am physical panic now”
internal agitation + need to move constantly
sleep somehow becomes the only stable mechanic (8–10 hrs when it hits right)

psych hospitalization chapter unlocked
Horizon Hall experience
reality gets compressed into institutional lighting and scheduled time
eventually discharged back into the world patch

post-patch lingering effects
still some residual agitation but trending better
no delusions at this point, cognition clearer than during peak storm

relationship storyline branches
long distance Welsh bf (H) -> breakup arc completes
new connection formed in psych ward (R) appears like side quest you didn’t expect to accept

family subplot heavy
dad in unstable housing situation (car living situation)
brother crisis involving psychotic episode + legal trouble
you end up emotionally holding a lot of threads at once

work/purpose scaling event
become Children’s Education Director
still doing Mystics Club / spiritual programming / community organizing
somehow responsible for structure while your own structure is being rebuilt in real time

internal world intensifies
Jung / mysticism / symbolism / “everything means something” mode
trying to metabolize chaos into meaning instead of fragmentation

result: Saturn return not subtle
more like “entire foundation gets audited while you’re still living in the house”
but slowly rebuilding systems anyway

>>42593436
>internal world intensifies
>Jung / mysticism / symbolism / “everything means something” mode
That was what happened to me too :O

>>42593470
We are not wrong to make something of the signs and symbols
We only have to be careful that our internal landscape isn't entirely co-opted when we are also allowed to make our own meaning instead of merely "deciphering" it

>>42593394
For how long?

>>42593526
20 minutes.

>>42593331
Saturn doesn't "reward" you. That's like saying Freiza "rewarded" Goku with more strength just because Goku had to unlock a higher power level to defeat him. It wasn't Freiza that did it, it was Goku.

You reward yourself by not being a bitch and enduring the bullshit Saturn heaps upon you. You also have to recognize that Saturn is just a force of nature, it's not personal. Something will always exist that sits in opposition to you, no matter what side you are on, no matter what your goals are, no matter what. There is always some "opponent" trying to thwart you and limit you. It is not "for your own good" either. It's just an indifferent, totally impersonal, completely automatic force of nature trying to wear you down. Fear, decay, isolation, loneliness, etc.

THE ENTROPY OF TIME ITSELF.

The only "reward" is not succumbing to it. Those who last the longest, will say they were "rewarded" the most. But that's backward. There was no "reward", not from Saturn. Only the slow inevitability of defeat, which you can prolong or delay, but you cannot stop it and you cannot prevent it. ONE DAY, death comes for us all. ONE DAY, everything shall come to an end. NOTHING can prevent this. NOTHING. Not even all your childish stamping of your feet and memes and zoomer arrogance and nigger energy throwing a tantrum and yoloing about it is going to make any fucking difference.

>>42593331
The reward in question is literal hell

>>42594339
Is agriculture satanic?

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>>42593331
suck my nuts

>>42594841
No, but agriculture is something humanity invented, not Saturn. Saturn is the landlord you pay rent to so your crops aren't evicted. He doesn't grow your crops for you, you do that. And he doesn't help you do it either, you do that. He just represents the tax that must be paid to time and to entropy, always. Nothing is free. That's it. Stop overthinking it and trying to project your own feelings onto what you want Saturn to be instead of what he has traditionally been for thousands of years.

>>42594861
Why is paying the tax hell? What would happen if you don't pay it? Is there a way to escape from this?

>>42594873
Paying the tax is only hell if you don't enjoy it. Some people enjoy hard work, so they worship Saturn because they're masochistic. Nothing wrong with it, but it is what it is. I'm just saying call a spade a spade. We don't need to pretend things aren't what they are.

What happens if you don't pay your taxes? Then you go to jail. What happens if you don't pay your rent? You get evicted. What happens if you break the law? You are fined for commiting a crime and punished for it.

>Is there a way to escape from this?

Yes, if you can find a group of people who have figured out some way to endure Saturn's bullshit well enough that they have developed a traditional way of life around it that they all follow, and you vibe with that because it connects with your personal issues and you feel like you can find help and support amongst kindred people, then that is your "escape" from Saturn's influence.

That is to say, seek Venus and Jupiter. Venus is Love, which harmonizes and brings people together, whereas Jupiter is your patron who supports you and affirms you and gives you hope and optimism. Lean on those two forces, learn how to recognize them in other people. Notice in some people the influence of Venus, they are happy, harmonious, they want to be your friend. Notice in some people the influence of Jupiter, they have traveled around, experienced many things, become wise, and found faith somehow that gives them hope and courage to face the future, and they want to financially and psychologically support you. Those are your allies. Seek friends and allies. That is the best you can do to resist Saturn. Saturn preys on the isolated, the weak, the vulnerable. If you surround yourself with friends and allies, then you have no reason to fear anything, ever. Then Saturn will be a distant force in your life, not a constant pressure.

Simple as, or not, if you just want to keep arguing.

You think the muh venus is actually lucifer faggots were as obnoxious back in the day as these new saturn muh satan gays are now?
Could it be they the same shit just mutated into a new form?

>>42594911
Possibly. People with fragile egos must by definition externalize the blame somehow so they can perceive themselves to be victimized by something. This is a tale as old as time itself. People focus on anything, ANYTHING their monkey brains can put a spin on to rationalize their own suffering.

>It's Venus, fucking slut!
>It's Uranus, fucking tranny liberals!
>It's Neptune, fucking schizos and psychos!
>It's Saturn, MUH RULES and wageslavery!

But you know, rather strange nobody talks shit about Mercury being a fucking nigger ground around lying to everyone using cunning and mischief to manipulate everyone, since he was traditionally seen as the TRICKSTER archetype.

And you know, funny how fucking not a single goddamn soul ever complains about MARS, the literally fucking planet of WAR AND STRIFE. Like, you stupid fucking faggot motherfucker, MAYBE THAT'S IT, MAYBE THAT PLANET IS THE ONE CAUSING FIGHTS AND ADVERSITY IN YOUR LIFE YOU STUPID NIGGER.

But not one thread on Mars or Mercury. Or how about Jupiter? Like he's immune from the stone throwing? The fuck outta here, Jupiter can be the most hippy dippy fucking toxic positive "NAH MAN EVERYTHING WILL BE ALRIGHT SOMEHOW MAN, JUST BE POSITIVE SOMEHOW MAN, BOOTSTRAPS N SHEEIT"

Literally every single planet can be a fucking obnoxious prick when it's not well dignified or being maltreated by some other planet that it doesn't vibe with. But guess what, nobody on 4chan makes these threads because they actually have any fucking clue about astrology, they just have emotions they are feeling and feel the impulse to express those feelings in the hopes that someone will give them some CRUMB of fucking attention.

Well here you go, here's your fucking attention. I've almost hit the goddamn character limit. I hope you're fucking happy.

God I fucking hate zoomers.

>God I fucking hate zoomers.
the future is gay and retarded old man, no cap

>>42594935
at least we agree on something then
fuck this gay earth

>>42594938
bus it down for a real one, ong

>>42594907
Thank you, anon.

>>42593394
that's all I do and all it has given me is an empty field, a dry tree
no fruits! nothing but plumbean animosity !!

>>42593436
you'll get a mini window right after the return where everything settles and you are rewarded. The tragedy of it is, you won't notice how comfy you are for once, once the trial resumes when it starts squaring itself again

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