>be me>logical skeptic, atheist>want to get into demon worship and sacrifice>feel silly, cant take it seriously, dont even know where to starthow do i get over myself and get more open minded? are demons real? can they give me what i want? are they even abrahamic demons or something else like moloch? where do i start bros help me
>>42596900>are demons realNo
>>42596900Demons are real, but making pact with them is exactly the same as when niggers traded all their resources for shiny. Your soul and spirit power is infinitely more valuable than whatever you would want
>>42596900>be me>logical skeptic, atheist...>want to get into demon worship and sacrifice>are demons real?...Where do you think you got that thought? Would it make sense for a logical skeptic atheist to get into demon worship? Ask yourself this: are you sure that thought is yours?
>>42596940can i sacrifice other people and let them take the fall for my deals? idk about my soul eitherway how do i make sacrifices come on man i thought you guys knew your shit, should i learn aramaic? kill people or animals? get supplies like certain books and ingredients?>>42596961ive been fascinated by demons and human sacrifice since childhood, i wasnt atheist back then, the fascination is still there even though i find it hard to believe in the supernatural. ive never tried so what the hell it couldnt hurt
>>42596967Lawl, killing is always fun. Like, become the next It/Jason Vorhees as a spiritual pursuit.
>>42596967>ive been fascinated by demons and human sacrifice since childhood>ive never tried so what the hell it couldnt hurtEh. it might. These things often do.>i find it hard to believe in the supernaturalAnd that, ironically, is what might be protecting your from it. Look, ima be real. You look like you're gonna do some stupid shit. No one here's gonna stop you, but if they're gonna teach you to do stupid shit, knowing that you're gonna do stupid shit, they bear some responsibility for you doing stupid shit. That's just how it works.Ahem. So, as far as I see it, your options are:1. Learn to do stupid shit on your own.2. Find other sources (not here, it's full of schizos who've had more than enough of demoniggers)3. Learn why the shit you want to be doing is stupid and ask a better question.
>>42597007no you arent responsible, i am an adult, i know what im getting into, i bear full responsibility, now stop with the mysterious shit, tell me all you know, tell me sources too, i need to do research
>>42597024>no you arent responsible, i am an adult, i know what im getting into, i bear full responsibilityNot how it works. You can think of it as "karma" if responsibility doesn't fit the bill. A rope that ties and binds. I've done enough shitty actions both knowingly and unknowingly. Let someone else take this one.
>>42596900Demons are real, God isn't though, supposedly the demons themselves are gods, but they are just assholes. They shapeshift, talk, render themselves invisible, speak various languages, touch your body, try to have sex with you, and other things.I take 5-htp before bed to induce sleep paralysis to commune with them on happenstance. Sometimes the night has like 3 fragmentated awakening, where you are next to a succubus/alien/goblin/ghost, and you then make them vanish by shaking off the paralysis. Other times I might take it and I just have trouble sleeping and nothing happens if I stay up too long.I'm a sleep paralysis cryptid hunter and study their forms, and seek out a commonality between experiences to have a consensus on what they actually are.
>>42596900What is the name of the wind?
>>42597057omg stop being a bitch and just tell me, or do you just not know anything?>>42597070sounds like youre just inducing sleep paralysis demon>>42597085what wind
>>42596900>want to get into demon worship and sacrificewhy? are you stupid?>feel silly, cant take it seriously, dont even know where to startstart by reading the bible and looking into official doctrine as to what demons are and what powers they have. >are demons real? yes>can they give me what i want?to an extent >are they even abrahamic demons or something else like moloch?yes>where do i start bros help meFor demon worship and sacrifice? No clue, but you dont want to do that anyways. Ill tell you right now that most "satanists" and demon worshipers are just materialist atheist larpers trying to spite the notion of god. If you want the real stuff you gotta find the actual occultists who worship the real lucifer. Theres plenty of libraries here on /x/ but like I said you really dont want to mess around with this.
>>42596900Why tf would you want to do that? Dude it is not like what you see in anime or manga, grimoires and occult shit is not reliable and it is dangerous, you might study it but you should stay away from such things, because those are really fuckin old predatory and deceitful entities and you have no reason to ask anything from them, nor can you control them this way or such
>>42597178i want it because i want it, i just do and i have to try it>>42597260i dont watch tranime or manga, i dont think its a cartoon, i dont even believe they exist but if they do, i know they arent going to be gay sissies from transbin hotel or whatever, how do i study them? please provide me with sources
So it is this shit that you can control them using sigils and the true name but this is mostly gnosticism derived magic stuff and you should rather strive to build your relationship with God, thing which said entities have failed and is really bad for them and brought them to this state
Basically it is that dude who wrote "The Infernal Dictionary" which I believe it is mostly satire, and the weird sigil shit is from an esoteric tradition involving the Hebrew gematria. You find it on fuckin Wikipedia, on the article on demonology but I recommend you look into interviews with exorcists and educate yourself on the matter
don't you dare harm a fucking living creature for this
>>42596900The so called supernatural is 100% real but there's a bunch of people on the internet shitting nonsense about it
>>42596967So you intend to commit murder for human sacrifice?
>>42596967Motherfucker is tormented by intrusive motherfucking thoughts and did nothing about it and seemed no motherfucking help get help
>>42597365Can you clarify the last part of your statement a little bit?
>>42597309and if i do? what are you going to do about it?>>42597336where can i do some proper research on real sources?>>42597337yes, how i'll pull it off is my business so refrain from sperging out>>42597365in english, doc
You have to make a clear separation of thought, feeling and instinct.
>>42597394I will help you how about you go to see the powerful demon known as "psychiatrist" and tell them you want to kill people. As you know from /x/ all psychiatrists are evil and feed people poison pills all the time as well as gaslight people about their true motives, so tell one and they will reward you with true evil power.
You see, an intrusive thought is this shit coming in your head without any reason and real purpose and is obsessive and negative and shit and you become vulnerable to it by being stressed, experiencing negative feelings, watching smut/gore etc
>>42597394Interesting, and you intend to do so regardless of what information you find?For the record, I would advise against commiting crimes, demons don't like careless murderhobo behavior.
>>42597425>>42597394And to make this clear in case you aren't of clear mind, DO NOT COMMIT MURDER.
>>42597279https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64uyYw2jywA
>>42597279>i want it because i want it, i just do and i have to try itid suggest you start learning what a demon is then and why they are called "demons" in the first place. Which requires you learn about real religion. ill give you the TLDR anyways: demons are fallen angels that thought god was dumb for making humans in his image. In doing so god pissed off a bunch of them by having lowly 3d morals outrank them in virtue and status. Now all the demons can do is try and degrade and humiliate mortals to spit in gods eye before they are destroyed. Humans are basically cosmic lolcows for demons in their eyes. Bargaining with them can possibly grant you a more preferable material life but you risk your soul forever and you'll likely wind up warping your mind irreparably (Ie addiction brain damage type stuff like porn or drugs can harm your physical form). They wont give you super powers like superman because that would give away the game. Also they are only permitted to do things god allows so that he can bring about a greater good when they are denied. I cant help you with actually communing with them because idk how nor do I care to. Just know that they can influence your thoughts and are masters of psychology.
Canonically they are incorporeal, THEY DO NOT FUCKING EAT ANYTHING there is no reason to kill anything
>>42596900>logical skeptic, atheistSure and you fucking love science, except you actually don't have any substantial scientific passions or intellectual interests at all. Your beliefs came from internet memes and Youtube videos.
>>42596900>logical skeptic, atheistMf it is reasonable to assume that causing material destruction and endangering others for the sake of interacting with entities you have no empirical evidence of is a really bad idea caused by some intrusive thoughts or shit
skeptoids have tiny brainsthey can't comprehend the unseen
>>42597416shut up you commie faggot, psychiatrists are all subhuman marxist propagandists who brainwash men into being cuckolds who worship the government, id sooner die than visit a subhuman filthy psychiatrists they should all get genocided>>42597425do demons accept animals/unborn babies? itd be super easy to farm abortions and animals, if they dont then hookers, homeless and undocumented migrants itll be, but they should right? in all stories they ask for your kid so logically they should be satisfied with abortions.>>42597441yeah man but i just cant believe in that retarded abrahamic mudslime kike christcuck god allah yahweh whateverthefuck faggotshit even if i believe in demons, i have done enough research to see phony knock off religions made by frauds. also i dont expect superman powers>>42597467why are you seething this hard? i hate memesand reddit niggers, and i do love scientific passions, mainly mathematics specially probabilities and geometry, languages(i can speak 7, 2 as good as my native tongue, the rest will be that good soon) human anatomy(ive been obsessed with surgeries and cutting people up since childhood) geology, paleontology, mechanical engineering, weapons and weapon design, architecture if you can consider it scientific, i adore chemistry specially chemical warfare, bases and acids, drugs and poisons, nuclear science and radiation physics, i love computer science and have a bachelor in IT, i love economics and im majoring in it for another bachelor, just to name a few. now by all means im not super qualified in some of them, specially nuclear science or architecture, but i am interested and relatively competent in most, i dont see why you seethed though. are you one of those religious nutjobs who think jesus walked on water and noah survived the great flood on his ark with a pair of every animal?
i tagged too many people and got flagged as spam, here is the rest of my response>>42597477thats no big deal though>>42597499go on then, guide me if youre so knowledgeable
>>42597530Ok but if you don't believe in religion or anything why would you infer demons are real. You could as well go to the top of your house and wait for ayy lmao to take you and it would make more sense and be better for society
Nigga using sigils doesn't need anyone to be dead I think you just want to harm someone
>>42597555im very interested in pre abrahamic/pagan religions, what if there was something out there, and people just interpreted things wrong?
>>42597559use a sigil? elaborate, also, sacrifice would definitely help, and yes i would love it, human and animal, but particularly human sacrifice has been one of my childhood obsessions
>>42597530>yeah man but i just cant believe in that retarded abrahamic mudslime kike christcuck god allah yahweh whateverthefuck faggotshit even if i believe in demons, i have done enough research to see phony knock off religions made by frauds. also i dont expect superman powersyoud be more at home LARPing with neo pagans then. Its all the same tho. Good luck hanging with them if youre not white tho
>>42597530>he’s weak enough to fear brainwashing from a midwit modern day “psychologist”HAHAHAHAHAHHA LMAO @ YOU OP HOLY FUCK THATS WEAK WILLED AND WEAK MINDED>not getting free gibs from a flawed goverment systemDUMB IDIOT
>>42597535I will not guide you. Only the true elite should be knowers and you are not knower material.
>>42597561So yeah if you are interested in paganism you have to know that the word 'demon' in Greek refers to any spirit not necessarily evil, but you seem to have a fixation on the monster type. Pagan gods are mostly demiurge like figures and part of the universe/forces of nature. I believe they were the watchers and nephilim refered to in the book of Enoch. There is no need for any sacrifice or shit
>>42596900>claim to be logical>summon demonslmfao cmon man, clawed fingers typed this post
Ok you clearly seem to intend to harm someone even if the whole thing presumably requires using like numerical values of letters, you might be paranoid or have some form of psychosis my dude, the demons are already there
>>42596900>logical skeptic, atheist>want to get into demon worship and sacrificethat's not very logical and skeptical of you
>>42597530You moron, I specifically indicated they do not accept criminal acts.You can't corrupt the dead.If you want their favor, you'll have to make sure people live long, healthy, safe lives and do law abiding good without causing any harm to others. After all unhappy people seek religion.Then you will be rewarded with what they call, the fruit of karma.
>>42597605Good karma is a cuck jail for good goys that get on their knees in servitude. You can only know power by having bad karma. You should learn to swim in bad karma.
>>42596961There's got to be mental Turing tests to check if those are the result of an internal monologue or if they're either intrusive thoughts or programs that were laid down at some point in life (i.e, is this thought organic, is it something that I would naturally think if I were in a right state of mind, or is it bullshit?).To add to what anon's saying in the pic, there's definitely a lot more to being human than just an inner monologue. This is something I wrestle with because I'll admit sometimes, I'm retarded and I don't get things.
>>42597626>I'm rational>I believe in demons bible style but not the bible and don't like the god of abraham and don't like da joos>I believe in Karma but not eastern religions or new age or their deities and don't like da indiansanon..
>>42597752thats not me bucko, that was another anon, im still waiting for sources and useful info
>>42596900>logical skeptic, atheist>2026Not gonna make it.
>>42596900Start with Solomonic magic, crack open at minimum the Lesser Keys for some basics of the practice. There are patterns and similarities between things if you have kabbalistic knowledge which lets you replace some aspects of the ritual portion to be more convenient, but at minimum just prepare a sigil, some incense, and use the proper evocations at the right times. Spirit work primarily uses yourself as a channel, all things need a medium and unless if you know enough to make that a location or using some means other than yourself, you yourself are the conduit to help manifest things. Which means your results are destined to be crap if you don't take it sincerely. For someone like you it is probably better to get into the more philosophical side of things rather than actual magic, and then come back to magic when you are able to entertain a supporting worldview where things are more understandable otherwise it's going to be like ramming your head into a brick wall if you don't get (un)lucky or have natural talent to summon things anyways.
>>42596900OP literally fell the moment he started calling himself logical,skeptical and atheistic, he clearly is none of that.
>>42600026very interesting, specially the part about getting into the philosophical side first, thanks. I have a few questions, lesser keys of solomon, ill look it up, do you have any more sources? do the evocations have to be in a specific language like aramaic, latin or hebrew? regarding using location or something else as a medium, could you elaborate? what sort of location or medium?>>42600048cant a guy wonder and entertain some ideas that might not align with his worldview every once in a while?
>>42596900if you are an atheist why do you want to worship demons thats not very atheist of you
>>42600662im curious, i want to see odd, weird inexplicible cool stuff, and who knows, if its real and i can make a deal, i could benefit greatly
>>42597024You know what you're getting into? You made this thread to ask for knowledge. And everything you say clues that you don't know what you're getting into. Your only saving grace may be that you're likely too boneheaded to develop the openness you need to start any sort of spiritual path. Seriously just forget this
>>42596967I don't know about rituals, go ask Marina Abramovich for that. All I know black magic is very dangerous and slowly consumes you regardless. My wife knows about the witchery some things because her mom and grandma are in it and she says that's a very bad idea to do, but if you intend to do some rituals you must learn all the steps because 90% of them are safety measures.P.S lol she just said an analogy for you: I'm not related to politics or the police at all, please tell me who your drug dealer is.You sound like that
>>42600681I got bad news for you, OP, all you'll see is how effectively your desire to see something can bias your perceptions. Demons aren't real, it's just your own inability to cope with how sad and boring real life actually is. Don't let people fool you like this:>>42600682>>42600732They're trying to use the power of suggestion to reassure their own doubts. The reality is that you can use this power over your own perspective to make yourself happier instead of forcing yourself to hallucinate because people on 4chan told you demons are real.
>>42596900You are silly. Don't worry though almost all other "demon worshippers" are also larping atheists
>>42596900>Logical>Skeptic>AthiestPraytell, are you a homosexual to, because we have a Trifecta of contradiction here, to where it is almost certain to be a Tetrad