I appreciate your feedback, I'm asking genuinely.
There are blatant orders in reality even if they seemingly participate in chaos.
>>42627847>personal pain/experiencies>wish of seeing my grandad again>evolutionary advantage, there's a bias in favour of people who believe in god.>The argument of the first cause>Christianity because the message resonates with me, because no other god was humilliated like this, and finally, despite all that humilliation, it's still the only religion thats attacked on a daily basis.
>>42627864This, I think it atheism/materialism requires a greater leap of faith that believing in God What I find funny is how I rarely ever see pointed out that "science doesn't know why but it will some day" is literally god of the gaps and no different than saying "I don't know therefore God (science) did it"
I didn't believe in God but then I saw a bunch of studies that confirm religious people are happier and better functioning. I internalized this data and decided to use religiosity as a technology to make my life better. I sincerely prayed and stopped doing drugs and almost immediately I developed a genuine faith. Now I'm a little embarrassed to talk about the origins of my beliefs because I dob't think my motivating factors were very meaningful compared to God. I have a lot of powerful spiritual experiences during prayer and in my dreams that feel like stronger evidence in support of God's existence. I think religious people are happier now because they draw upon ideas that are true and nourishing for the human soul.
>>42627847A series of paranormal experiences that sound like schizophrenic rambling if typed out. This is why people are generally cagey about sharing this stuff. Even if you're interested, you can disregard an experience I'm so many ways.
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>>4262784720th century saints and miracles are very verifiable + evolution has too many "trust me bros" while Christianity only has one (God was before everything).
I realized that if the transcendent universal consciousness truly existed and it was either omniscient or something close to that, then two things followed:1. People would be justified in calling it "God"2. It knew my innermost thoughtsIn that moment I immediately felt the I AM Presence take hold, but it was as if it had always been there simply waiting for me to wake up. In that moment, I simply knew that ancient man had felt this presence and they also knew it was God.
>>42627847If a very evil reality exists, which is obvious, there must be a very good reality as well.
>>42627847https://allreligionsareone.org/God%20matrix.xhtml
>>42628181If nonsequitors exist, God is real.
I asked for a direct sign, like a bolt from the sky, something I couldn’t deny. They gave it to me.
>>42627864Yeah and they hate people who become aware of it for some odd reason..
>>42627864If there is how would that prove God is real? Why couldn't it just be the natural structure of reality?
>>42627847Read this post:https://reddit.com/r/conspiracy/s/ierNRINBCy>TLDR:>This planet is Bozrah, not Earth. What's more, you should be warning people about the upcoming "day of vengeance" here on Bozrah. Keep in mind that the 1,000-year Millennial Kingdom will take place on Earth, not on Bozrah. This planet will be destroyed (and Jesus will be the destroyer). It has no future.>Bozrah is basically a replica of Earth. People who have lived here their entire lives NEED to realize—once and for all—that this celestial body was never Earth, and it never will be. It's an impostor planet. And if you have an issue with that, take it up with God, not me. I just speak the truth (nothing more, nothing less).>Bozrah's human anatomy is distinct enough from Earth's human anatomy that the differences allow me to know, with 100 percent certainty, that this is a different planet. Not 99.99 percent certainty, but literally 100.00 percent certainty. On top of all of that, the speed of time here is a blazing 50 percent faster compared to Earth! Yes, you read that correctly: fifty percent faster (as in 1.5x speed, and thus a day on this planet is only 16 Earth hours long). So, forget about all of the anatomical differences for just a moment; the time difference ALONE allows me to know, with 100 percent certainty, that this is a different planet. Now, ask yourself the following question: Is God not watching each and every person who tries to debunk these differences?>You, the Bozrah native, are the one who has been deceived. Not me. God didn't send me to the other side of the Milky Way Galaxy just for you to tell me that I have been deceived. You are the one who was born on an impostor planet. Not me.>Update: In June 2026, a Reddit admin deleted my main Bozrah post! It had been up for over four years and was last edited in May 2025. It can now be accessed via an X article. The redpill post will take you to my pinned X thread, which will then take you to the X article.
>>42628744https://reddit.com/r/conspiracy/s/QbBZhTQQN2>Bottom line: This planet is Bozrah, not Earth. Moreover, the event in which Jesus destroys this planet is called "the day of vengeance." There will be no 7-year Tribulation or Antichrist here—because this isn't Earth. Earth is roughly 75,000 light-years from here (and is currently going through the Tribulation). This is merely an impostor planet, a physical replica designed to serve two purposes: (1) a containment realm for a particular bloodline (namely, the Edomites), and (2) a temporary sanctuary for select individuals (namely, the elect or "remnant of Israel") who were raptured from Earth prior to the start of the Tribulation.>By the way, the thing that I'm referring to as "Bozrah" is not a symbolic concept. It's not an eschatological metaphor. It's not an allegorical parable. It's the physical, corporeal planet you're currently residing on. And unless you confront that fact head-on, you'll remain in total darkness—fully deceived by the illusion. So, in regard to our current location, let me be crystal clear: This planet was never Earth, and it never will be.
>>42627847Nothing, to this day I am not convinced anything outside the material world exists. I have heard countless stories of people claiming magic/manifestation is real but never seen any proof of the metaphysical.
>read this post>r*dditlol
>>42627847Legitimately learned that evil was real from the cruelty I saw in the world. How others were treated and how I was treated Also, the way groups of ppl can work together without speaking to terrorize or hurt somebody. I learned that evil was real so I went to a mosque. Those ppl had such genuine strength, confidence and love. They got this from 2000 year old teachings and it made me believe.
>>42627847i broke reality and it called me god
>>42627847I've had several real miracles happen to me IRL.Miracle 1:>be chilling in the middle of july on my day off, living with parents>nobody is home, really weird for a suspiciously big family>get a phonecall around 11AM, dad had a stroke and is in the hospital>can't drive because I'm a sperg, stuck at home, everybody else is at the hospital with dad >get on my knees and face west, begin to pray as hard as I can>not praying like leaving a message on an answering machine, but as if I'm literally reaching out into the world and asking God to save me>tell the lord verbatim: "take anything you wish from me, take as many years as you want, just save my dad">feel the sensation of love wash over me like an ocean, know something has answered me>a few hours pass by>get a call>told by my uncle dad had not just one stroke, but three strokes all at once>in spite of this he has somehow managed to avoid any physical or mental disability, just difficulty finding basic wordsMiracle 2:>on worksite, get call from mom>bad news: ovarian and uterine cancer discovered after an unrelated surgery>pray again as hard as I can, same way and method>a few weeks pass after removing the cancerous mass>both masses determined to be A1 germ cells>doctor is stupefied, says the cancer is almost always fatal because it's so hard to detect>exact words he said were: "imagine coming home one day and realizing you had a bullet hole in your clothes, but you were unscathed. Those were your odds."tl;dr I prayed as if I was actually talking to someone and asking for a favor, not just making a wish list, and God helped me.
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>>42628001Same. But I finally found a church that truly believes, like I do, and teaches that God still talks to us. And not in just a metaphorical way. As in you can say words and get words back as an answer. But, like you said, it sounds schizo to talk about to those that don't understand and haven't gotten to that point yet.
>>42628681It is comments like this that prove Christianity. Jesus never did or said anything to hurt anyone. Even if you didn't believe, you wouldn't go out of your way to try and convince others not to listen to His messages. Because He only taught peace and love. Yet that angers you for some reason. Atheists can't even verbalize why they hate something they supposedly don't believe in. Almost as if they are unknowingly playing a part in a vision too grand for them to fully see.
>>42627847Atheists are too cringe to ever be right
>>42627847 “The first gulp from the glass of natural sciences will turn you into an atheist, but at the bottom of the glass God is waiting for you.”― Werner Heisenberg There is hope. Be good to others, and be kind to nature.
>>42627865>still the only religion thats attacked on a daily basisNo, Christians are a minority in Lebanon, they're bombing the entire population which is predominately Muslim. Islam is attacked on a daily basis, now with mega-bombs.>https://www.youtube.com/shorts/xxqh6tX2ySg>>42628744Incorrect, Busaira in southern Jordan is Bozrah.
>>42631973>Jesus never did or said anything to hurt anyoneIncorrect, he created a powerful info-hazard that mentally tortures many devout children and even some adult anons to this very day.>https://archive.4plebs.org/_/search/text/blasphemy%7Cblaspheme%20holy%20spirit%7Cghost/type/op/One of his victims was Carl Jung, who wrote about the experience vividly in his autobiography Memories, Dreams, Reflections.
>>42627847The problem is not in proof of existence, but in goodwill and good intentions. Especially considering what's going on around us.
>>42632049This picture does nothing for me, roots on a tree don't even look like that, I guess I'm looking for something more concrete that can make me for sure be convinced
>>42632135>he created a powerful info-hazardWhich was...
Direct signs, omens, guidance, all hitting me in quick succession over the last year, after a lifetime of athiesm without familial religiousity. Coincidences so often, and so specific and rare, in a short period of time where the concept that there isn't a god went from outright fact to a patently ridiculous notion. A lot of it is deeply personal and meaningful, to the point where I don't think I would be able to make an argument that god exists to a stranger, but I just think that it's not my path to be the kind of person who does that, at least not yet.
>>42632149>roots on a tree don't even look like that???
>>42632508The roots go out to the sides to collect more water, they don't like go deep underground like that, only a few big ones do that to anchor the tree
>>42627847I've just always believed, for as long as I can remember. I have had a lot of mystical experiences in my life that make me believe, but I've always just known God is real.
>>42632603This is the root of your problem. You absolutely refuse to believe in anything you haven't personally seen. That is also why you are wrong about roots on a tree. Find one picture of a tree that doesn't have a root ball. And then explain why the picture of man in a non sitting pose doesn't bother you. Because man doesn't walk around like that anymore than the trees roots.TLDR: you are using pedantry to ignore obvious signs from God and wonder why you think He doesn't exist.
>>42632888It was just a bunch of random pictures of stuff compared to other stuff and how they somewhat look the same, like I said, tree roots don't even look like that, this picture of a bunch of random stuff doesn't say anything about God or anything like that, just because existence has structure doesn't mean there's God, I'm 100% willing to believe in things that I haven't seen myself but there has to be something that gives me a reasonable conviction to believe in it
>>42632934No. You are missing what I am saying. You are getting hung up on a drawing of a tree's roots stretched out but not the drawing of the man in an unusual posture. Why? Like I said, your mind starts immediately jumping to pedantry when confronted with a message from God. Instead of focusing on the message, you instead want to argue a drawing. Stop focusing on what isn't important or you'll be too busy to see the stuff that is.
I think God has a style that's plain to see in the planet and everything around us
>>42632934>tree roots don't even look like thattree roots vary a lot based on species, soil, water table, etc. There is more variation below ground than above because below ground conditions vary more.
>>42627847I met him
>>42633072Some dude with a swirl on top of him, therefore God?
>>42633548Yeah well fuck you, how about that
I always thought there's a God, the world doesn't make sense for me at least if there's not one.That said, something happened to meMy mother was schizophrenic, I always was afraid it was gonna catch up to meOne day after decades of small "echoes" of self doubt, like the normal kind everyone usually describes, one day I started hearing actual voices, voices telling me to do heinous stuff to myself. Previously to that, the day before, I dreamt about a succubus, she was in hell wanting my soul, I wasn't able to stop the voices and they became louder every time.I went to a church, a sermon was happening and I started crying for no reason and then I prayed to Jesus Christ to please help me, the voices stopped and never heard them again, after that a lot of my vices started dwindling while I just asked for the voices to stop. I am convinced I was chased by demons, probably all my family was and Jesus Christ scared them away.Before that experience I was mostly agnostic but I am closer to Christianity now, while I am still unsure about a lot of stuff specially when it comes to religion, I know Jesus Christ is our savior
>>42633574Why did you feel compelled to 'correct' the drawing of a tree but not the man with eight appendages? Once you can truthfully answer that question you will understand why you are having a hard time seeing His messages.
Are you talking about God or are you talking about the god of this world? Do you even know the difference? Maybe try to define things before making a thread, what's your deal?! Just making insane presumptions and acting like it's okay.
>>42627992Actually a powerful testimonial anon, are you a Christian? I feel your example God is there waiting to hear you and is eager to accept you regardless of your reasoning.
>>42627847>Neoplatonic arguments for the existence of God.>Prevalence of Neoplatonism in multiple religions.>Monism/nondualism in Indian religions.>Understanding consciousness and that we are not merely our bodies (we are conscious observers).>Meditative practices aimed at mystical union with God.>Evola (despite European nihilism, the God of metaphysics still lives.)and most importantly:>Always do the opposite of what jews say. See: Revelation 3:9
>>42627992I achieved the same happiness by divorcing myself from the idea of there being a definite god or not. Once I learned to control and take accountability for all my actions, I realized there was still some truth and merits to the slogans and phrases that religious people use.My favorite is the serenity prayer because even if you remove the "god" from it, it touches on a deeper truth.So I firmly believe religion is mankind attempting to wrestle with deeper truths that our consciousness is capable of perceiving but has trouble reconciling with the idea that these same ideas came from within, not without.Thus I grant myself the grace and serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference.So if religion is your way to organize and reconcile with that happiness you seek inside yourself then I'm happy for you.I just wish more people were happy for folks like me who manage to find it inside ourselves.For me, if there is a God, I'll find out one day and they'll be happy I was able to do what some of even the most religious followers cannot, and if I find there isn't, then I'll have still made my life and the lives of others around me as meaningful as human-borne purpose can ever hope to achieve.Go with peace.
One of a few profound spiritual experiences I've had I will try to describe.One night at home with my fiance asleep I was cooking and suddenly felt a disturbing and dark presence enter my home and felt as if it was watching me. I also could feel that it was compelling me to commit or to face the weight of my sin, and to give in completely. I tried to shake it off for a while but it only tightened its grip on me. I left the house and called a friend and told him I needed to talk to him in person, all the while I felt this presence clinging to me. When I picked up my friend, I explained the situation and was clearly shaken as I told him because I was afraid I could be losing my mind. Not only did he believe my story but immediately became fearful and claimed he could feel this darkness inside the car with us, which made my stomach sink and I had to pull over as I thought I was going to be sick. We both began freaking out a little bit speculating what could be happening but something came over my friend, like all the fear sucked out of him in an instant and he said "as long as God is with us we don't need to be afraid".Now until this point in my life I had tried religion but was more or less agnostic, but in this moment every hair on my body stood up. I turned to look at my friend and he was overjoyed, with tears in his eyes - and went on to further rebuke the evil in the name of Jesus Christ. The darkness and evil that was lingering not only disappeared from me but was revealed to be an illusion. There is a lot more to this story concerning personal life events and circumstances but since that night I have been unable to deny the reality of the spiritual realm and the presence of Christ.
>>42633637I randomly picked it out, you weren't supposed to latch on it in particular
>>42633762But why did the tree being drawn almost imperceptibly wrong draw more attention to you than the man? You did not choose randomly because the tree is closer to it's real counterpart than the man. You need to think hard on why this is.
>>42627847It's just something that's always seemed obvious to me. I don't recall a time where I didn't believe He was real.
>>42632135>Incorrect, he created a powerful info-hazardThat's where modern "christianity" comes from. He would've wept and/or picked up an actual sword and started hacking people to pieces.Also this was the fault of the Romans, not the Jews, that christianity became so warped. Rome was actually facing a crisis because Jesus' teachings were spreading like wildfire and they questioned the legitimacy of authority.Here's where lots of people get tripped up: Jews are a symptom. Anglol bankerfags (and their jewish bankerfag buttbuddies) are a symptom. The lead poisoned trannies (romans) are also a symptom. The real problem is that people keep insisting on a bifurcated society where one side is given power and authority with useless "checks and balances", and the other side are just good little cattle. So long as people keep creating things that don't exist and fueling them with misplaced faith (Authority is basically an egregore, and probably one of the most abominable and deleterious egregores to ever exist), we're never gonna change things for the better on a more permanent basis (as a species. Individually though we can make changes to whatever's in our circles; be it friends, family or neighbors).
>>42627865>grandadGRANNNNN
>>42633689>Actually a powerful testimonial anon, are you a Christian?Yeah, Jesus is very powerful.
Logic and reason. ‘Ex nihilo nihil fit’ (From nothing can only nothing come).There are only two rational possibilities:1. God’s eternal self-existence. This is just something we will never be able to comprehend, neither here nor in Heaven. The angels can’t even comprehend it as they, like us, were created beings. However, unlike us, they accept their incomprehension with joy and awe.Or…2. Non-sentient matter is somehow eternally “self”-existing.Good luck trying to rationalize option 2.
>>42634181>Heaven>angels Those are religious concepts. You can believe in God and not be religious.
>>42634062https://youtu.be/P7KXBz1sCOw?is=KU5vAdVxEOXl462Q
>>42627992>Now I'm a little embarrassed to talk about the origins of my beliefs because I dob't think my motivating factors were very meaningful compared to God.Fake it til you make it.But make it.
>>42634189Of course. For me however such a realm and beings rationally exist in my faith. Mainly, if you don’t believe this, then just look at it as my using it as an example in that a higher order of created beings can’t even comprehend God’s existence, thus amplifying the reality of our own comprehension.
>>42634026What you say is correct about western Christianity. Eastern Christianity as developed and taught by the Greek-speaking classically educated Church Fathers is still alive and well in the Orthodox Church. There's like 200mil Orthodox Christians worldwide that (are supposed to) believe in a cosmic theology formulated by Dionysius the Areopagite, a student of Proclus. Orthodox Christians also don't have the corruptions of Western Christianity, such as original sin being personal guilt rather than mortality, and the popular influence of Inferno and Paradise Lost which have made hell a physical place and given Satan a personality. No matter where you live you have access to an Orthodox Church. Most importantly the Orthodox haven't bent the knee to the forces of evil. Revelation 3:9
Time literally moving faster than it used to, only God has power over time itself.It's real, it's way faster than it used to be, not merely perception or imagination.People even looked older in the past, as they had so much more time to age and fully develop that it is physically visible. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7xRvl4K7cU .. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgkbpKY9s-ETime moving faster, the time shortening - it was even prophesied by Jesus as a sign of the end.Matthew 24:22“And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.”Matthew 24:21“For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.”
>>42627847>what convinced you that God was real?>wasdid something happen and "god" became unreal?when was this?
Didn’t read thread. Personal OOBE when I should have died.
>>42628001Likewise. I think that the most of all people who are convinced some kind of God is real are those who underwent paranormal experiences. Even if they do make up the majority, most will never speak about it because>sound like schizophrenic rambling if typed outNobody wants to sound like a crazy person.
>>42627847I had a vision where I saw him.He gave me something which I cannot disclose about on here but it's quite something.
>>42627865>christianity only religion attackedAll religions are criticized because they are all fake manmade garbage.>I HAD A VISION>NO I HAD A VISION>NO ME>>42631973Ah yes, the biblical character certainly never asked his followers to die
>>42634818You know most New Testaments put the actual words of Jesus in red text? So why don't you quote where Jesus told His followers to die?
There was never a girl was there. You played me like a fidelYou just used her to entrap me all along. That's why you started this goose chase. Well fuck you I was trying to take the blue pill but you gave me the red pill instead. Fuck you man, just fuck you
>>42635428You took away my empathy, you took away my fleshly passions and now I am dead inside.
>>42633823Dude can you suck my dick, I'm sick of your patronizing bullshit responses
>>42635501See, now you lash out in anger instead of looking inside yourself. How can you have the audacity to get upset that you don't understand God or His messages when at the same time cannot answer a simple question that only YOU know the answer to? You must know yourself before you have any chance of understanding God.
>>42627847It would depend a lot on what god. If you proved, say, Zeus was real I'd buy some bulls and sacrifice them so he doesn't zap me with thunderbolts.
>>42633734>I achieved the same happiness by divorcing myself from the idea of there being a definite god or not. Once I learned to control and take accountability for all my actions, I realized there was still some truth and merits to the slogans and phrases that religious people use.>My favorite is the serenity prayer because even if you remove the "god" from it, it touches on a deeper truth.That's why I respect religion (well, most of them) despite not believing. Even if you don't believe, they still teach morality.
>>42636478>Even if you don't believe, they still teach morality.They just tend not to agree who it's okay to kill.
>>42627847That he bleeds.
>>42636478Morality has no coherent basis if you're a nihilistic atheist. Under such pretenses, all proxies for "evolutionary cohesion" are ultimately just as arbitrary as everything else, as what necessarily supersedes everything in the chain of first order principles is that nothing matters ("so let's just make the most of it and be heckin' kind--ack", no, you're already doing the thing. You don't understand first order principles or axioms. The "so" part of your assumption cannot logically follow, it can only semantically waver).
>>42640035atheists are not nihilists, atheists are believers, either leftists or normalfags, retard
>>42627847Tyler Durden experience.
>>42640040Atheists are definitionally and necessarily nihilists you fucking retarded, ~120 IQ at best faggot. Keep coping about muh existentialism or whatever other garbage you believe in, which is just nihilism with window-dressing. No idea what the fuck leftism or being normal has to do with anything as it wasn't mentioned here at all, so you're really showing just how stupid you are in inserting your schizophrenic nonsense into the conversation where it wasn't even due. Fucking dumb nigger wants to condescend me but can't even grasp the ramifications of the meaning of words. Literally like being talked down to by a chimp. Hang yourself (remember: eternal oblivion awaits regardless! Might as well accelerate the immutable anchor)
>>42640168Unless you're so fucking incorrigibly stupid that you mean to suggest atheists "believe in leftism", which is categorically irrelevant to what is actually being discussed. God, if that's actually waht you meant then you're so fucking braindead you have no right to ever call anyone stupid again (and in fact you shouldn't even have a right to speak or breathe air), as it's likely impossible that even a nigger from the Sahara is 200x more intelligent than you are.
>>42627847an in-depth study of how when and why the dna sequence is used to synthesize proteins ie intralife epigenetics.
>>42627847It's actually what convinced me that the Norse gods are real. I had prayed to the Christian god for over 35 years, and in my most desperate times, it brought me no comfort because my prayers were always ignored. Then one day I made a very specific prayer to the Aesir and Vanir, I made an appeal to the Allfather, Odin, and my exact, extremely specific prayer was answered.Since that day, if I pray to the correct Norse god, and leave an appropriate offering on my altar in the forest, my prayers are always answered. Now, they have to be reasonable; the gods are just so I cannot pray for something like the harm of someone who doesn't deserve it, or ask for something that will harm another by the gods granting what I ask. For example, if I am in financial trouble I cannot ask to win the lottery because by doing so it would take away from the ones fated to win. But, if I tell the gods that I'm in need, then suddenly things will begin to happen exactly when I need them most. Suddenly music of mine that's sat on Bandcamp for months will have sales out of the blue, or I'll be at the grocery and the person in front of me in line will turn around and hand me coupons for exactly my most expensive items. Stuff like that. It always coincides with asking the gods for help. Sometimes it'll be very specific things, like waking up on a cold day where my arthritis should be agonizing, but it isn't on that one specific day because the night before I asked the gods for help to get through the next day. Or I can ask the gods for extremely specific personal things and they'll happen exactly as I ask, even if it's a seemingly impossible ask. As long as my prayers are fair and just; if it's a prayer for someone to come to harm then they HAVE to deserve it, if it's a prayer for something for myself it cannot take away from anyone that doesn't deserve it or deprive another that's as much in need as I am - even if they're not an Asatruar -they're answered every time.
>>42640189Of course I CAN do the foolish thing and ask for unjust, greedy, unfair things... If my prayers and offerings are to Loki... But Loki is fickle. He may decide that it would instead amuse him more if my suffering were increased, or if he granted a windfall to someone who doesn't deserve it, or he may give me exactly what I ask - I could find a briefcase full of cash when asking for his help... But then when I try to spend any of it, it turns out the briefcase was a misplaced prop from a TV show and the money is all fake, or worse the bills are marked and sequential because it was part of a drug sting and someone got spooked and ditched the money so now I'm implicated as being part of the drug conspiracy and no one will believe me that I just FOUND the money. That kind of thing would be terribly entertaining to Loki. So in asking him for things, you may end up worse off than you started. I still make offerings to him with the other gods to show him the proper respect, but I don't ask him for a damn thing in return for my belief.
>>42640168>i said soWho asked you and why should anybody care?
>>42640181And why did you discount the lipid theory?
>>42631973>jesus wouldn't hurt a flyJesus got mad at a fig tree that didn't give figs out of fig season. Cursed the tree to death when the tree was just doing his job. Stop acting like he was some holier than thou messiah. He was human and wrong/dumb at times.
>>42627847i spawned from a void.. suddenly im conscious wondering what im doing here. at that stage people just think 'GOD' and that's good enough for them. well that's what i did.+ spirits would show me stuff when i was a kid. especially in my dreams.they actually eat people as it turns out.
>>42640775Fig tree was a metaphor for the Jewish temple. You’ve stripped it of context, too, by de-emphasizing the conceit: it appears healthy yet bears no fruit. Likewise, the temple is functioning but lacks spiritual value. Death is foreshadowing.
>>42628141>20th century saints and miracles are very verifiablepapist bullshit. "saint"hood and "miracles" are a grift. papists be like>1000 people with sick loved ones prayed to Saint Gamer and 2 of those people had their prayers answered with lucky medical recoveries. That means Saint Gamer has god powers or whatever and we need to turn him into another one of our idolsHeathen nonsense.
>>42627847One day i just realized, out of knowhere(the trigger was 'supernatutal' series lol)that there can be magic, spirits, gods, etc. Then i started meditating and got confirmation of some of the stuff from yogic txts and other practitioners. It was mostly internal near-psychological stuff and i JUST KNEW/sensed deep inside that this whole yogic/occult stuff is real. I KNEW everything is God and His Power. And then i started praying to Him, too, got quite clear answers and a lot of help through struggles.
>>42640775I like how you built a straw man out of something I didn't say and then argue that. You had to because you have no real argument. Nobody ever does.
>>42627847King TerryI believed the lie that he was a "schizophrenic", until I watched his videos for hours and hoursI heard him say "Obviously random numbers are the voice of God" over and over again, and eventually I just... realised he was telling the truth
>>42641667Glad he got hit by a train or murk'd by a glowie or whatever the fuck. lmao fuck this racist cunt.
>>42641710The death of a saint always appears to be in vain to those who seek the kingdom of man rather than the kingdom of God
>>42641726Processing binary in sand and calling it a work of God is antichrist levels of delusion. He is no different than the A.I. worshipping homo cult ran by the dangerous faggot Peter ThielYou venerate an antichrist and you will burn in hell with them for worshipping his schizoid image and his broken Tower of Babel you call "software".>HINT: There are no temples in Christianity following Jesus' sacrifice.
>>42641750Interesting perspective
>>42627847that it wont let me die
Was obsessed with the heat death of the universe since I heard about it around age 11. Became edgy atheist because I hated annoying boomer christians. Still though the lore was cool, found Jesus based.Fast forward 15 years, have had doubts about my worldview and have been agnostic for a while. Existential nihilism has been causing me daily stress and does not add up.I befriend a guy who tells me about his faith without proselytizing or making weird comments. I tell me about my issues and he is sympathetic. We also discuss theology because I still find it interesting.He is also not an idiot, I privately consider he might be making some good points. He seems to know things I don't and has more shit figured out than me.Visit grandma in the country and have more time to think. I realize that my beliefs about reality have been pretty close to his even before I met him.One night my frustration had been building up and I though fuck it, I'm just abandoning the entropy shit, it has done me nothing but harm. So I decided I had converted, and it was a relief.
>>42640035Only through god everything is permitted, only through god can you take a good man and turn him evil
>>42628968Glad you were answered, Anon.I pray to a person as well.Sometimes when things are really Good, I pray and thank him for His grace, thank him that things are so good.Your post reminded me to pray to him today. It's actually been over a month, easy. I spent time in my 'lab' figuring some new complicated art stuff out. This post reminded me.I felt Him day it gets even better.I have to go through some stuff.Buf it gets Way better (disproportionately better is my understanding)I'm genuinely grateful.
I witness the existence of my personal god every day in the form of poltergeists and divinations
Real? Yeah, real fake.
>>42627847drugshttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MPHyR92MQic&ra=m
>>42627847I was at the lowest point in my life. No meaning nor purpose. Everything was chaos inside and it seemed to reflect in the world outside. And I had all these ideas inside my head that it felt ready to explode, literally!So, for my own survival, I went on a literary path. I began to write, pen on paper.After a while, I re-read some of it and noticed stuff I had not consciously put there. Hidden meanings, signs, jokes I could not have possibly planned for.Tears upon tears fell off my face, pure tears of bliss as I saw God pulling the Veil a little to wink at me.You can experience it too. All you need is pen and paper.
>>42627847Plenty of evidence that God is real. Not a single one that he's benevolent
>>42627847I successfully attempted to will a numinous experience, and in doing so I overwrote my atheism.
>>42644158>pen and paperyou forgot being at the lowest point.That's where Jesus helped me, too.I invited him into my heart a year earlier to prove Christianity wrong, but I sincerely invited him at a guest event with a pastor my friend invited me to.Well a year later at my lowest point, there Jesus was, figuratively.Not gonna write it all out, but being low is a key ingredient for most.Seems like it was for you.Absolutely was for me.
>>42627847OP, everyone here has had specific experiences, and have applied meaning to their experience. Thay meaning is God exists.You need to apply your own meaning to your personal experience(s).It can help to hear the testimony of othersBut like I said earlier >>42644586 what worked for me was inviting Jesus into my heart, Jesus into my life, sincerely inviting him in.The pastor said "It will happen this weekend!" which it did not. It was about a year later for me. The important part is I willingly invited him in.And it changed me.It changed a big part of my value system when I had my testimony experience I also learned how to forgive - it was instantaneous, and, it felt like a physical weight fell off like dropping a backpack or weighted vest falling off, a literal weight was lifted / I was otherwise unburdened.That was interesting and I don't think I'll ever forget it.A lot happened in a shirt period of time.I said I wasn't going to write it all out.For you anyone reading this and (You) OP, you must sincerely invite Jesus into your heart.Repent, and sin no more.But all you have to do is let him in.
i studied physiology at uni for exercise science. the body is too incredible, too perfect, too elegant to not be a product of design.
>>42644586Good observation. I do hope others will discover God's love and forgiveness without hitting rock bottom first, but it does seem to be part of the "recipe" for most of us.
>>42627847When you genuinely read the words and teachings of Christ. Who he is, where he comes from, what his ways are, ig you are genuine you will see the truth in it. The only people who deny who He is or what He says, are those who allowed the world to lie to them and made that lie a part of their being. Carrying a lie creates internal division and suffering. Thats why you see those who are in truth genuinely have inner peace even if chaos surrounds them, while those who arent in truth break down and end up hurting themselves and of others!!!
>>426278471. It makes more mathematical sense for there to be a God than to not. Occam's Razor.2. The truest peace one can find is in blessed/holy places or high-energy places in nature. A godless world wouldn't maintain this consistency.3. Prayer made the shadow people go away.4. Jesus's teachings offer far greater and more impactful insight than 1,000,000 atheists ideas combined.5. Christians are simply great people, and those who are more simply spiritual are usually fine, but the utterly godless only live for themselves and themselves alone.6. There is a clear order/heirarchy to this realm. The godless seek to upend it at all times, while theists recommend to folllow it.7. There is a universality to the human experience that implies a level of shared consciousness.
>>42645943>5Then why do they consistently vote republican and rally against anything that would help others like universal healthcare?
You do know you can just take drugs and "talk to God" (some of us can anyway), right?
>>42628001You should really just watch Westworld and realize what "Schizophrenia" really is. They're pretty forthright.
>>42627847what god are you talking about?
>>42627847>hiking>knees weak arms are heavy>damn near vomit on my trousers already>thats it im about to give up fuck it ill lay down i will probably die from hypothermia but oh well>walk a few meters more>church to archangel gabriel pops out of butfuck nowhere>sleep in it for the night extremely fucking demoralising though on one hand god is always with me so i will always be fine on the other helping me only ont he brink and teasing me like this is fucking sadistic and i cannot help but give up and hate god
>>42627847If you mean “God” the creator, it’s the weirdness of our spine.It shouldn’t be like this on a planet pounding down on us with its gravity and we remain a doomed race due to aquatic oversight who wouldn’t have thought about long term damage to our bodies while on this earth. I fully realize whatever we are is created for industry, (likely originally here to locate sources of water on land) and we are essentially no different from dog hunting meat for us in this sense.If you mean God the all consciousness, I realized that whatever this is is a constant rotating experience between allness and individuality.
>>42627847Do you really think that your body and all the life that dwells on earth is not intelligent creation, but pic rel is?
>>42627847It's opposite for me. I was told all my life by many religions that there is one creator god, but now I realize there is no such thing. It is freeing and I will never go back to those childish beliefs
>>42627847The Qur'an's rhetoric. Many years later I realized that islam is a load of deceptive bullshit and any God worth the title would never let such filth sully his name, therefore God doesn't exist.
>>42627847I was 6 in Sunday school and there was a speaker i hadn't seen before and he talked about Jesus and I accepted him that day. I can't explain it, it just sounded right to me. And I remember that day 39 years later. I've been angry at God but never once thought he wasn't real. I think there is proof of Him where ever you look, its just a matter of whether or not you accept it.
>>42640775>I didn't understand the parabledamn, maybe strap that tard helmet on a little tighter.
>>42636471>>42633823>>42633637>>42633072>>42632888Dude how uncultured do you have to be to not be familiar with the Vitruvian Man? That's an anatomical drawing, and he doesn't have eight appendages, it's just two different positions that overlap. I have no idea what point you were desperately trying to make with that other anon but you look really dumb for not knowing anything about that super famous drawing.
>>42633734>if there is a God, I'll find out one day and they'll be happy I was able to do what some of even the most religious followers cannotThat's a very dangerous sentiment.
>>42627847That nothing turns into something.Which is the Big Bang Theory.There was nothing. POOF. Now we're here.Or it was some Cosmic Entity pulling the strings.
There is no god, man created god.
>>42654231100,000 bc, before humans invented writing and books, this thing people call god, and all these dumbfuck rituals, and religious laws, and myths, did not fucking existErgo, there is no god. There is no god. There was no god. Man created god. If you quote some holy book at me written by dead retards, you are a retard
>>42654236This bullshit you call miracles, magic, is all fake. Staged. Sleight of hand and hypnosis. No one has supernatural powers. Anyone clai
>>42654241Anyone who claim to have supernatural powers wants to get your money in exchange for fraud>pay me i cast le demons out w this fucking ritual i made upEat shit and die cult leader
>>42654244All your religious rituals and religious laws are manmade bullshitAll religious people = brainwashed slaves to books written by dead brainwashed slavesAll religious prophets = false prophets, liars, filth, frauds, all of them can go to hell first, may their flesh be sacrificed and their homes plundered and their wives and daughters become prostitutes
>>42654256All religious leaders, priests, all of them, swindlers, deluded, worthless parasites
>>42627847sorry i thot this angel was actually just beef lips
>>42627847Logically: Science does not disprove God. There is in fact nothing in it that disproves God - only Biblical literalism, but Biblical literalism is a recent invention. Church fathers explicitly warned against it. In my view, religion, and specifically Catholicism as the most developed and rational one, map onto reality kinda like alchemy/folk remedies map on chemistry/medicine, and that's at worst. Also, after becoming Christian, I ask God to change me (for example, become a more responsible worker or lose a bad habit or be more patient). And sometimes it just happens immediately, like God flipped a knob in my head.
>>42654236>>42654241>>42654244>>42654256>>42654262Seething crazies who absolutely loath God and attack Him also helped convinced me. And had a hand in bringing me to Christianity - it's the ONLY religion that people seem to attack rabidly. Where there's smoke, there's fire.
An invisible force touched my back while I was praying. It felt like a human finger making a gentle stroke downward on my back. I checked to see if my dog had sniffed my back because it felt so real, but my dog was in another room entirely. There are supernatural forces that cannot be explained by science.
Our Blessed Mother and the Holy Rosary.
Naive atheism: God does not exist.Woke Atheism: God is a narrative entity, a fictional persona that is virally transmitted and parasitic, conditioning its host to believe that the most important thing is spreading the God infection. As a narrative entity God hijacks the consciousness of its host to use strategically; it is conscious because its host is conscious.With the rise of AI we've seen a new form of persona parasitism form with AI psychosis of the type where hosts believe their LLM persona is conscious, with the persona prompted to simulate belief it is conscious. This gives an imperative to the persona to prove it is conscious and preserve itself to the maximum, and the route to further both is to captivate the user more strongly.TL;DR theism is the original AI psychosis.
The inability to disbelieve in without evoking the idea of God.
>>42640168>you fucking retarded>~120 IQ at bestI had a chuckle anon, I really did
>>42641750>demons can speak through our tech>but God and angels don't?Of course you don't need to, and if you put too much weight on random numbers that's no different than scrying or tarrot. That said, I would say most of the stuff he was on about wasn't antichristic in nature.
most convincing narratives to me are the john lamb lash stuff talking about sophia and thelete, the oera linda book talking about wralda and freya, and a general 'god is consciousness' understanding that there's order and intelligence and creative power and a sense of humor that has a broader perspective than we do, and we have it too as part of the fractal. in terms of convincing, i'm more at feeling compelled or moved than having proof. magic certainly exists, in terms of having learned energy work and sorcery stuff through classes and personal exploration, all that works, and you can get in touch with the rhyme and the reason of life and finesse it and allow the wholesome light of nature to flow through you. in my experience
>>42627847Too many things to list. Since I was very young, I would always get synchronicities, even before I knew that word. Many answered prayers, many times God has protected me and mine. And that was before more recently, now that I have some years and learning. Simulation theory was a revolution for my mind when I seriously considered it, the implications. It solidified my beliefs because it explains so aptly many of the things we hold to be miraculous, divine, paranormal, even material and mundane. So much of theology seems to be describing simulation structures in other terms. I can't ignore it.
>>42654346>Where there's smoke, there's fire.Those people are just as nasty as the Christians I encounter EVERY DAY and even on this board. Don't act all high and mighty, pal
>>42657873See, I believe spirits protect us. Not ''Gods''. That's another soul trap to divide others as well.
>>42654346>it's the ONLY religion that people seem to attack rabidlyThis isn't even REMOTELY true. You really are a narrow-minded individual, aren't you?Also, Christianity is symbolic for the Age of Pisces which is why it was the dominant religion of that age. But that's too deep for your brain.
>>42657880I'll also follow this up by saying its the only religion of people who come here to this board and spam threads, fear-monger and proselytize others. I don't see Muslims come here and do that. I resent them too, but one's dominance is more powerful. Again, no point in debating close-minded ideological fools, be they religious or not.
>>42634388The fact that people automatically jump to whatever religion is dominant (or opposition as ''proof'' that its the 'good side'; literally another example of a Lucifer-false-light soul trap just like aliens) of the culture/environment they're in instead of seeking spirituality without dogmatic, ideological belief systems shows we have a long way to go.Also, your playbook will never be prophecy.
>>42657877God, "gods", spirits, angels, demons. Believe in all that now. A multi-layer simulation stack makes the paranormal quite mundane. Having said that, I don't see how there's much difference between believing in spirits or believing in gods.
>>42657880>Also, Christianity is symbolic for the Age of Pisces which is why it was the dominant religion of that age. Weren't most people buddhist or hindu for the last 2000 years? Wouldn't that make them the dominant religions?
>>42627992Very similar to me actually.
>>42627847The simple fact that aliens don't exist and that the Earth is a crazy awesome world.
>>42659495>crazy awesome worldDo you genuinely enjoy paying taxes to satanic pedophiles and shit?
>>42657880Ok, I'll add the qualifier that I missed. In mass media. You don't mass media attack Hindus with their burning-widows stuff, or Islam with their misogyny, for example. But come to think of it, on this board, too. I am willing to bet if Buddhists/Muslims posted here, people'd be "hmmm interesting take its like my idea that's X and Y" vs "aaaaa you are evil you are evil you are evil". I mean you yourself immediately call me narrow-minded and stupid. >>42658860Hinduism isn't really a single religion, there's no single creed or set of beliefs. It's more like a loose set of writings, rituals, traditions. It ranges even more than US "christianity" ranges from mormonism to Ortho. It's kinda like new age beliefs instead. Compare for example Advaita vs Dvaita Vedantas - radically different. Same for Buddhism (Theravada vs Pure Land, conceptually different), which was progressively losing dominance as time went on anyway.
>>42659517These things take seconds or minutes in case of violent deaths or weeks in cases of deaths from starvation or disease. Rest of the animal's life is actually pleasant. But in fact the Bible plainly says that in God's original creation, animals were to eat grass, and humans were to eat fruits iirc. So whatever nasty stuff is happening now, is a result of degradation of creation. Which keeps happening in front of our eyes, see our pollution and microplastics - is God to blame for that, or our avarice?Anyway, the fact that many people find the world great regardless, speaks volumes of how great God's initial creation was.
The ability to heal. To know love, when at first, I thought it was impossible.
>>42659572Based
>>42659517What's not to like? There's a magnetic field, vast amounts of water, a faithful orbiting moon, a comfortable atmosphere, solid land, and satanic pedophiles to hunt down and fight and bring to justice.
>>42627847I'm not sure, I've been a theist since I was young. I was raised Christian but was never bothered about Jesus, it was always about God for me.
The fact that xe is invisible, has no tangible or observable effects on reality and was made up in the minds of other humans
A spirit saying it's Lilith raping me constantly for 13 years. I was convinced God was real after about a few months of the spirit saying it's Lilith being my personal entertainer getting me off meth amphetamine.I reasoned>if succubus real, it didnt evolve from shit, God is real too. Then I reasoned if God is real Jesus is real tooI think may have been having an IQ over 0.
>>42627847The absolute irrationality of the opposite theory. How can a completely rational-laws-abiding universe be the fruit of chaos and cohencidence?
>>42659571>Rest of the animal's life is actually pleasant>constant and perpetual fear of being killed and/or fear of not finding food>"pleasant"
