i dunno i really wonder who preserved the writings on alchemy, astrology, magic, occult philosophy throughout centuries

>>42655372
>Why didn't they excommunicate Hitler?
Why would they? He was doing their bidding unawares.

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>>42655479
But like why? I get that they just lie about things. But what do they want with the Occult? Does that imply its real since these guys are so huge?

>>42655511
lurk moar normie

>>42655372
Weirdos

>>42655372
I think they were trying to evolve away from religion after realizing the terrible danger it was to Europe.

>>42655372
>nazis
they were Rockefeller/Rothschild puppets those bankers also control the Catholics specifically the jesuits

>>42657740
>nazis we’re anti religion
This is the reddit take but ignores that they embraced aspects of countless religions from pagan druids to Tibetan monks
The close connection to the Catholics and help escaping with the rat line also throw a wrench into that hypothesis

>>42655372
Too busy playing grab ass in castles and dressing in robes out in the woods

>>42655372
Catholicism is a trap for people who want to become genuine Christians. It catches you early and instead of a simple gospel it convinces the would be believer that you have to do a bunch of 'other' things to be saved, as well as strange practices after the fact. A lot of these things are very occult. Praying the rosary, venerating saints/Mary, bowing down to statues (many of which aren't even Christ), taking traditions as the same level of importance as the word of God, etc. Many of these things are very much NOT in the Bible and some are indeed occultic if you really look into them.

So why doesn't Catholicism hate the occult? They partake in it!

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>>42659134
that is reasonable. So what of "Occultism" not of the western world? are they the same "Thing"? or is it like "tea (chai)" and "tea (camomile)"? Does that make sense?

>>42655497
this

>why does a dinosaur from the old world like medieval theoretical metaphysics?

"Occultism" was literally the standard understanding of how the universe functioned prior to the rise of science based physics

The Catholics were extensively mystical, but only among their dissidents.
Jesus drinking blood and teaching his followers to do the same via the Transubstantiation got extremely close to the actual Bloodline traditions. The catch here, however, is that "Jesus" and his buds were drinking period blood, not just any random blood.
The reality is the Vampire tradition, like the Luciferian tradition (they're connected, but not in bad ways like you retards are taught), lived on through Roman Catholicism, but only because it co-opted the real traditions. I could say a lot about this too, like mentioning Jesus' Frenzy in the Garden or referencing his true nature as a Macedonian-Scythian prince (hence the Tyrian-Scythian Purple) or his relationship to Medea or Apollo and Artemis. Unfortunately, this gets us far away from Catholicism (it's Mithraism) quickly.
>>42658796
They sought Vedic and Celtic inspirations because this is where the real meat came from. The Bell Beaker and Pontic Caspian Steppe Nomads synthesized around the Anatolia region and there were many reverberations. The Nazis picked up on this because they were hunting for the Dragons who contained MC1R alleles. Why? Because after MWP-1b, they traversed the world civilizing people, sharing ancient secrets from before the cataclysm(s) with them, teaching them how to grow and brew the necessary plants to continue the Oracular tradition, taught them Math, Astronomy (navigating by Sea), Metallurgy (which they were extensively skilled at - hence the Bronze Age), Botany and quite a bit more.
But they also taught them to grow Barley. Any idea why Barley? Any idea what Ergot is?
The Catholics co-opted and then buried this under Mithraism - a continuation of Rome.
>>42655511
To answer these questions, synthesize the above with Carl Jung's Genetic Egregore.
>>42658788
Hitler was responsible for populating Israel via the Haavara Agreement after the Rothschilds created it with the Balfour Declaration.

>>42655372
Catholic is translated as "whole"
If catholicism dosen't have the occult and paganism in it too, through the means that makes sense. Then it would not make sense.
But it would be heretical to anything fully christian lmao.

>>42659134
They really did contain everything in the beginning, but only because so many people called themselves Catholic/Christian to hide, like Fichte. Are you familiar with Kierkegaard's criticisms a la Christendom? Have you read much of Nietzsche? If you read the books and then read guys like these, you'll understand what I mean.
Kant wasn't just some "philosopher" just like Plato wasn't either. These guys were all doing "Metaphysics" and these "Metaphysics" were how we got Gnosticism which fused with Neoplatonism which gave way to all the Lodge systems, the Templars and the varying Orders who compartmentalized the teachings.
Are you familiar with Orphic Code? Jesus famously alluded to it in Mark's Chapter 4. His followers took this and ran with it (literally), creating loads of coded words not long after the dispersal of the Royal Family into Western Europe as they fled the Roman assassians.

>>42660715
>"Occultism" was literally the standard understanding of how the universe functioned prior to the rise of science based physics
Even today, "Occultism" is still far, far beyond what you're taught in your goyim worker drone schools. See, once you actually grow up, understand Intelligence and Mysticism in a modern lens, you realize all of those Mystery Schools got transferred to the National Security clearance world.
All of those masters who used to perform le magic in the ancient world? Yeah, all of those got moved into SCIFs and SAPs somewhere. All those Wizards you used to read about are now on federal department black budgets or hidden behind layers and layers of clandestine MILINT works.
Anons, the best assassins today are Wizards. It's what STAR GATE was really about - finding kids who could Long Arm someone from miles away; it was about finding kids who could stare at goats until some guy in another country had a stroke or killed himself; it was about using le genetic powers to mind fuck people on a grand scale. But the catch here is all of this had to be compartmentalized so you retards wouldn't go around murdering people willy nilly.
So nothing much changed really. They just put a different dress on it and told you it was a real girl. Sorry, lads. They're still just keeping shit from you so they can exploit you. I know it sucks, but one day you'll learn what's really going on, who you've really been talking to in places like this, what ways they tried to help you, what they had to do to stop all this nonsense and what the world looks like as a result of these herculean labors.

>>42662188
You say... Military wizards? Thats so fucking cool, how i join it?

>>42662198
It depends. How many people do you want to try and torture you at once? How much can you withstand? Do you have the genetic profile? Can you do things others can't? What do you have access to (or who)?
All you really have to do is prove you can do it and people will start trying to recruit you. I suggest telling them to pleasure you. They'll try to bribe you and if you don't take the bribes, they'll just torture you even harder. If you're smart, you'll find ways to deploy deterrents or force them to do your dirty work for you.
Yes, "Military Wizards". They're the reason the Secret Club's wheels turn... but only until they stop playing ball.
If you're lucky, things won't go haywire if you're capable of getting close enough to earn or acquire something worthwhile and still escape. Ultimately, it's not exactly something most of you will ever truly desire and for good reason. Even fewer of you would ever be capable of pulling off this series of qualifications and routines.
I know you think it sounds cool, but the aftermath and the ramifications aren't what you'd want them to be. Do you know what it's like being hunted like an animal when the people doing the hunting are quite literally beasts trying to provoke a walking nuke? They're lucky if there aren't many more casualties along the way while they audaciously tempt the fates.
What a bunch of retards - let me tell you.

>>42662231
I mean, that sounds alot more interessing than most things.

Though it wont be peacefull

And in case this wasn't clear enough:
Fuck you.
Suck my dick.

I would consider converting as long as my Catholic girlfriend and I could continue having sex to gig the backup and scholastic angle of a paranormal tag and bag team.

>>42662148
> Hitler was responsible for populating Israel via the Haavara Agreement after the Rothschilds created it with the Balfour Declaration.
holy fuck they’re right
was hitler really helping jews?

>>42655497
I think he was aware but yes

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>>42655372
>hitler was a catholic
Guess what else he was?

>>42655372
Catholiscism is a jewishly pozzed Christian cult, designed to trap well meaning, but supremely naive, potential Christians and tricking them into satan and idol worship, and pedophilia

>>42664780
And after that, guess what tribe he belonged to.... and who his uncles are and why there was even a ww2 and the specific politicsl changes that occurred because of him

>>42655372
Roman Catholicism is extremely occult. They want a monopoly on the occult

>>42664883
Only in really nuanced ways. They hide it from the rest of us. In fact, the Romans (Catholics) have been spending quite a lot of time over this past thousand years or so trying to kill off people with inherited abilities. Unfortunately for them, it's not going so great.

>>42659134
>bowing down to statues
you actually don't know what you're talking about; the inferiority complex with you protties is something else. Go to you sunday service at the strip mall and donate to israel and pastor rick's camaro fund though, retard

>>42664800
Dubs of truth.

>>42664803
this anon reads

>>42664803
>>42667445
Again, Haavara Agreement.
You'll find it occured not even 20 years after the Balfour Declaration.

>>42663731
They wanted jews out of Germany. Sending them to Palestine was a peaceful solution, but that broke down at the beginning of the war. The third Reich would have allied with the surrounding arab nations basically surrounding Palestine/Israel.

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>>42668314
Too bad that hasn't worked out very well for the rest of the world now that Israel is the global blackmail hub run by the Orsini family's "Rothschild" branch.
Look around, retard. They're doing le Epsteins all around the globe. How don't you know this?
The families like Orsini hide behind these people and use them as their shield. They're rabid dogs
And what do you do with rabid dogs, everyone?

>>42655372
More Jewish lies and satanic disteverance Hitler was anti protocols the at jew and freemasons thing

>>42655372
Pikes newnge rotted your skull nas hoaxet

>>42655372
More in re dishorst gay weirdo anti nat soc psyhobabble thyzsen kruppt Siemens and

>>42655372
More anid Hitler crap nat socs wer oos Catholics you hugueknot

>>42655372
More inbred stupid heretics and apostate Jan huzs overloaded knight of Malta were rights no Jews no infidels

>>42655372
This quote is flat out wrong. Hitler used to gift Mussolini Books on Nietzsche and Himmler praised the Bhagavad Gita and was heavily inspired by it.

>>42658788
Wrong Satan. More inbred anti fascist shit fourth estate playing real cleffelets and Rothschilds schedule ff Warburg and every other jew retarded one freemasons shit racial issue

I heard Hitler was an actor but couldn't find anything on it

>>42668508
Painter

>>42668463
They knew the Vedics were actually white people.
They knew what "Shakya" in Shakyamuni meant.

>>42659134
You are an American "christian". Your "pastors" can't properly figure out a Spider man COMIC BOOK.
Yet you presume they can interpret the Holy Bible. Fuckin idiots lead astray by ignorant false preachers/conmen

>>42670562
Okay, but if you're still doing vanilla Christianity, you're just objectively wrong.
Jesus and his friends were famous entheogenic wine dealers. They regularly practiced a ritual we now call "Refrigerium", which we get the word "refrigerator" from today (it meant refreshments - like drinks). It was wine often mixed with laurel leaves, henbane, opium, fungus, mandrake, sometimes venoms or poisons and so on. When Paul wrote a letter to the Corinthians in 1 Corinthians 11, he admonished their improper mixing of the drinks which led to people dying. This is one of the reasons they all started getting hunted down, but not the only reason (it was mostly because people would decide dying in a war for some nigger wasn't worth their time).
In reality, "Jesus" was a Macedonian-Scythian Prince. He sought political asylum in Phoenicia, where he met his wife. After they had several attempts made on their lives, the family fled to Spain, then France and then the Isles. They created a Spiritual-Political Dynasty in Western Europe that lasted for quite a while. The Romans (which became Roman Catholicism since Rome never really fell and just made a transition) chased them the whole way and kept trying to kill all of them. They never succeeded despite what they've been telling each other for a very long time.

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>>42655479
A lot of it was preserved in the Kitab Sir al-Asrar and in Arabic speaking lands.

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>>42655372
>What is with the Catholics and the Occult?
The Church has always had a more sinister occult side. Orders like the Redemptorists are thinly veiled occult societies. Then there are the Jesuits which were basically a Jewish esoteric order established after the Spanish Reconquista. And you had a lot of orders established during the Bogomil and Abligensian Crusades that pushed more gnostic traditions underground and into secret Church societies. It's like any human organization that gets really big and influential. People will attach itself that have their own agenda.

>>42670562
>you presume they can interpret the Holy Bible.
Any Christian can interpret the Bible with the Holy Spirit. That's literally how it works, non christians have a tougher time grasping certain concepts but a Christian led by the Spirit can interpret any verse if you ask the Lord. Catholics pretend that only "special" priests can do this.... Very fishy

>>42655497
Catholic priests were killed by wehrmacht and sent to concentration camps by nazis. They advocated against Christianity on a wide scale too, so go fuck yourself

>>42655372
Yeah, of you want the real answer, the Vatican was infiltrated with gnostic cult freemasons. Also, you had those old shit Italian families like de Medici and other ducks who were into the occult and infiltrated the Roman Church. Happy?

>>42671171
I'm afraid this isn't nearly as outlandish as you want it to be. The story gets much, much wilder than this.
I'm also not giving you my sources because you're a dumb nigger.
Oh and thanks for bolstering my assertion. In case you haven't noticed, the whole everyone's a crack smoking conspiracy idiot is actually just a badge of honor these days. Do you know how many times people like me have been proven demonstrably reliable these days? You fucking idiot. You're helping me.
>>42671492
Holy shit one of you actually reads books and is informed about this. I'm delighted.
The Romans were specifically hunting for Jesus' family, their friends and offshoots of their orders, which is how we got Gnosticism in the modern world. Most people persistently reference Templars/Freemasons here and their regular interacting or facilitation of Christian Mysticism and they're right to do that. Neoplatonism was more or less the public vehicle for this transition and this is why we keep seeing references to Tetragrammaton or Saklas or Abraxas among the people in question.
If you notice, this trend reveals Platonian themes among the people in question and the sequence of Plato > Early Gnostics > Neoplatonism > Christian Mysticism is exactly how we got the very people you describe. In fact, many "Philosophers" or "Theologians" partook in this specific genre of Spirituality and there's loads and loads of references we could make regarding people who claimed they were Catholic/Christian publicly who instead were much, much closer to a Christian Mystic. It wasn't just Eckhart or John of God or Swedenborg, but Kierkegaard, Fichte or Nietzsche (the last being a bit more open about it, actually, though still an obvious Mystic).

>>42670782
>The Romans (which became Roman Catholicism)

Constantine took his religion with him when he went east and the old clergy quietly took back control of rome. Byzantine sperging about the holy roman empire because they were the "true rome" with the emperor as head of the church was what caused their schism.

>>42672505
It depends on the type of catholic, you know that there was a pkenty of catholics [priests included] that were very supportive of hitlerism
Politics of catholics groups go from ancient regime supporters that are ultea catholic, to some groups that are into some kind of ancap version of templars, to full blow Marxist supporter of what now is called Liberation Theology.
Obviously priests were sent into camps for sure, but also there were catholics sending people to the camps.
NAtSoc was a movement of masses, and even if Hitler wasn't wholeheartedly was, the regime certainly would maintain an ambiguous image towards catholicism to in the absolutely realpolitik move avoid any popular revolt from bavarians, swabians or austrian population.

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>>42674742
Guys... you know Italy allied with Germany, correct?
Do people seriously not know this? The Vatican is in fucking Italy, guys. Hitler took large loans from the Vatican, which took large loans from the Rothschilds.
Again, Balfour Declaration and Haavara Agreement.

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>>42655372
Fascists value hypocrisy and corruption. Art of the deal, 5D chess, might makes right, for the greater good. They’ll use freedom of speech to take it away later.

I'm not anti hitler but I am anti catholic, do i have to be anti hitler now? The catholics DEFINiITELY ruined china

>>42674769
>Hitler took large loans from the Vatican
Source?

>>42676054
No. Suck my dick.

>>42655372
Same reasons the Nazis got into the occult

>>42674769
Hitler worked for the Catholics/rothschilds
>Vatican received substantial funds from Nazi Germany.
>Church Tax Payments: Historian Gerald Posner notes that the Vatican received a significant annual "Kirchensteuer" (church tax) from Hitler’s Reich, which amounted to approximately $1.7 billion (in today's money) in 1943 alone.
>Use of Vatican Bank: These funds were often routed through the Institute for the Works of Religion (IOR) to avoid tracking by Western banks and evade wartime financial restrictions

>>42655372
Hitler was too busy doing Christ’s work by wiping out the cult of solomon

>>42682092
Don't forget the Scherffs, who became the Bush political Dynasty after coming to the US via Paperclip and establishing the OSS (which became the CIA).
One-thousand pieces.

>>42682574
>cult of solomon
Solomon was white, you retard.

>>42665213
>Only in really nuanced ways
Jacob Frank was heavily influenced by Polish catholicism and the cult of the black madonna

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>>42684297
The "jews" are heavily affiliated with the Catholics. They have the same handlers. You're looking for the Orsini-Rothschild family who created Israel via the Balfour Declaration. The Vatican took very large loans from this same network of families.
The real controllers of large portions of the world (there is no hegemony despite the usual talking points) are the "royal" 13 posers.
Have any of you guys heard of the Payseur family?

>>42684413
I have not, but this is fascinating.

I'm not personally spooked by spooks, but whatever TPTB are up to uses the Vatican and it's connections, but that does not mean The Holy See as an entity is it's own indipendent will. Is the Payseur family related?

>>42655372
Catholicism is based on pagan occult rituals. It made reprogramming easier.

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>>42685698
Brainlet take please meditate more.
#NoVril #GoyPilled

>>42685703
Stfu fag.

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>>42685717
And if I don't 'shut the fuck up', what then?

What are you gonna do?

>>42685725
i'm going to fuck you up your bussy with my big pagan meat that's what

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>>42685733
nice dubs

>>42685749
Thanks, It's all in the occult.

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>>42685757
Occultism is a fiction for low vibration animals. The divine is not appeased by dances or trees or dirt or other nigger tier babble that pagans like (You) engage in.

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>>42685763
I was making a funny. Your sense of humor is funny, not funny ha-ha but funny queer. Lighten up buttercup.

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>>42685838
/x/ is for schizos sweatie, your not welcome here.

>>42685842
blah blah blah

>>42685842
i think thats stolen valur, tell me who's standing behind you right now.

>>42684283
this

>>42682574
He did no such thing
Hitler just made the Jew problem worse
Look at how far the world has fallen in 80 years since he came to power
He never even killed a Rothschild

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>>42685689
>that does not mean The Holy See as an entity is it's own indipendent will
I'm afraid it does, anon.
>Is the Payseur family related?
Of course they are. This is "Leovani" Payseur.
He's since deleted his Instagram or at least these images.

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>>42655372
Thwy had to know that catholicism is jewish but they pripably knew that it is too strong rooted in society to openly fight it.

Pic rel - it is a jewish hat.

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>>42659134
Believing in human sacrifice, larping cannibalism and worshiping tool of tortures.
Black magic shit.

Holy tortures and eternal tortures.
Darkest evil.

>>42688189
im starting to think the whole focus on hating the jewish is the psyop. they are not the issue. the pagans are. jealous goys grew up poor with a shitty family and no morals so hate on the people that protect their family and assets...interesting...