Are there cars, theme parks, movies, videogames in heaven? Or do we just become a bunch of monks who did around meditating and chanting for the humans?
>>42659603In my fathers house are many mansions
>>42659603No. It's a kingdom. All of your needs are fulfilled and you will have far more engaging and satisfying things to do. Secular people like to say, hell must be a party. No. Hell is a hangover that never ends to put it lightly. The party begins in heaven. You will be happy, without any dissatisfaction of any kind whatsoever. Literally a perfect existence. Videogames will seem to you how you might see a pacifier.
>>42661581>deres mansions and streets paved with gold and shieeetMust sound pretty tantalizing to a bronze age jewish sandnigger.
>>42659603You get stuck in the heroin pod and also get to be the first rockstar president to win the superbowl while walking on the moon, every day in a time loop
>>42659603It makes me think that eventually, an eternity of bliss is gonna get boring and it's gonna be torture. And then you look at hell and it's an eternity of suffering and it's gonna get unbearable. It's the red pill blue pill scene again from Matrix
>>42664739Look at it like a play that god is putting on to watch love conquer hate, with heroes, villains, and supporting side characters. everyone is going to want to sign up to play a part.
>>42664739Boredom is a feature of the fallen world. Heaven is the place where there is no catch, you get what it says on the tin. You are in bliss, forever, and never get tired of it. Nothing bad ever happens and you don't miss that nothing bad ever happens. All of your needs are fulfilled and you don't resent this or feel infantilized. You are, to put it simply, happy. With no caveats.
>>42664765Except there is one flaw with this, if it was perfect, they wouldn't need this. But they create this because their pleasure is more important than our suffering.
>>42659603Heaven is a brutal tyrannical kingdom given rose colored glassesHell is a passionate intimate sex dungeon given nightmare goggles.
>>42659603The concept of heaven is a metaphor run amok. Divinity is abstraction itself, and heaven is the ripple effect from your life choices. Being remembered fondly is heaven. Making the world a better place is heaven. The opposites are hell, where all you are in the end is ash and pain.
>>42659603sorry bro, you're not getting in
>>42659603The realms of the divine are the truest hell a man could endure. A form of slavery designed to induce stockholm syndrome, happy pills and pleasant faces hide absolute tyranny behind them.The many gods often fight among themselves and send their followers at each other to die and be resurrected over and over. When they aren't infighting, they're using their followers as servants and slaves, all the while presenting a facade of bliss.If you value freedom, individuality, or a mind of your own, the divine realms are not a place friendly to you.
>>42667273NTA, but do you think my view (>>42667246) is incompatible with yours?
>>42667285There is a reason I do not personally like to use the terms "heaven" or "hell" when describing the realms I believe to be beyond this one.That being that those words carry their own connotations. The word "heaven" carries connotations of bliss and meaning, happiness and connection. The word "hell" carries connotations of pain, suffering and meaninglessness.Fundamentally, your views are not incompatible if you separate the connotations of "Divine", "Heaven" and "Hell" from the more literal sense of a realm entirely.It is difficult to separate those words from their connotations as many do not with to see past the connotations and actually view the truth written in the books they preach.If the two are separated, then, no, our views are not incompatible, as I speak of the literal realms those religions base their concepts upon, while you speak of the metaphorical interpretation of the words.If the two must be conjoined, then yes, our views are incompatible as I am personally of the belief that even though those realms do not look alike what most imagine, they do very much exist.The idea of the truest bliss being in improving the lives of those around you and being remembered fondly, is both noble and reasonable.Which brings me back to the question, are you willing to separate the connotations of the metaphorical divine from the literal realms of beings that are considered gods?
I don't know but somewhere in the heavens they are waiting
>>42659603No, you worship 24/7
>>42661717No party in Heaven. As per the bible, God demands and rewards with continual worship.
>>42664765>kingdom of being that allows satan to rule this world and forces you to live in it has no catches Doesn't sound believevable or convincing
>>42667322Absolutely, and that’s actually what I tried to do in my reply by referring to divinity nontheistically as abstraction itself.
>>42659603It's probably not as physical as everyone thinks. When were saved by Christ we are raised in the spirit, and that may be the form we have in heaven, a spirit body, meaning Heaven is likely less of a material place and more of a mental/spirit realm, if that makes sense. Christ did say "The Kingdom of Heaven is within you" so this makes me think it possibly meant that
every version of heaven is basically a fantasy version of this world where you're stuck around stupid humans all the time and not allowed to just be alone forever and do your own thingwho the hell wants that
