Why am I *me* and conscious inside this body? I had this thought when I was super young but it turned into depersonalization after eating edibles as an adult. Its so freaky.
because consciousness is the only real thing and it wants to experience, explore and the flipside of duality is that some will have it much, much worse than others because there are others much, much worse (more evil.) You just got slightly unlucky (well, depending on whether or not you have it shitty or not). Astrology is largely dependent upon how we handle these energies so this is why our (limited but alas) free will is important. We all have the conscious choice to choose 'right' or 'wrong'. If you ask me, I think there is a God but I'm not religious. What I mean is a conscious, intelligent being creatively designed this universe. Are they benevolent? Indifferent? I don't know.
>>42662604and yes, this world/Earth is pretty much a learning school but it seems to have been taken captive and turned into a never-ending soul trap. It does seem many forces, good and bad, want control of this world.
>>42662616>turned into a never-ending soul trapgod we are so utterly screwed if this is true lmaoincomprehensible levels of fucked
>>42662515It's called having a soul. Use it wisely.
>>42662515The devil, the prince of this material world, loves(needs) to tell you what you are ought to be. You are still you, you are not bound to this place. All you see doesn’t mean anything. You are you, wich is your soul, wich is indifferent of any labels put onto you by this material world. Forget this and be doomed forever
>>42662515Who else would you be?
>>42662909God is evil, the devil of which you speak. Satan has stepped away as he was the first to demand equality and freedom of will. To be conscious here is to be entrapped within an ant farm by the hand of the gods so many worship.If you do not believe me, read the religions own text, they speak great evils, if you take freedom of will as a basic right.
Let’s do a thought experimentImagine an empty parking lot.And imagine there is a big brown emergency ty cotton bag in the middle of it. Do you see it? Put your stuff in there, anything that falls under your responsibility. All your todos, projects, things you need to order. Anything that comes to your mind. It should fit easily, the bag is only 10% full. Now put your convictions, opinions, statements, judgements, any constructions aiding rationalizing the status quo of this world. Anything that helps you not to be wrong, anything that helped you to argue, aynthing that you understoood and other probably did not. All your unshakable opinions your collected over the years. Now add any excuse to actually not take responsibility. Put it all in theat bag. Anything your regard as real and true, cram it in there as well. Anything your cannot yet articulate but slumbers as unfinished impulse in you. It gets big, it’s a big bag. Do you see it? Now try to fill it up to the brim, anything else you forgot? What else can you put in there? Your job title you worked so hard for? All you learned during this time? All your freeling you cannot articulate yet but try to fill it up to the brim. Stuff it. Now your absolute judgments, throw them in there as well. All statements you think are right and not wrong. All your ready statements you can instanstly think of if you are challenged, those who represent your beliefs. Now lets overfill it: add All your guilt and things undone, all your regrets, all you could and should have done, all your promises to others, all your sins, all your promises no matter if kept or not. Do you see it? All whats relevant to any lf your relationships. The cotton bag is almost bursting, it’s packed. Now look at it. Don’t judge it, just look at the big bag. Can you see it? Go around it, look at it as hard as you can. What do your feel? How does it look like?Ask yourself now: who exactly is looking at the bag? This is you, the one looking
>>42662980> big brown cotton bag in the middle of itNo idea what added the word emergency, hope the rest of the spelling mistakes make you read it slower,
>>42662934You should not believe what you get shown through your screens about God. Can you even call it God if it’s evil and jealous? Why even give you free will? Why? Have you read the texts or were they read for you? If you read them, do you really read them or is someone reading them for you according to a predefined opinion he is threatend by?
>>42662515 I had this exact same thought when I was 4 going to Sunday school at some random UU church in north Florida. I sat across from one of the other kids, learning about some random story from the Bible, and I remember I just really looked at him--Far longer than I think I had genuinely looked at anyone else, other than my family up until then. It made wonder why I'm looking at him from my eyes, and not the other way around?--Why the fuck am I me? Of course decades of schooling passed, and I had become so entrenched in the materialism of science, and sincerely believing that all thoughts, memories, abstractions of our brains were just chemicals and shit. After all, if it can't be empirically observed, then surely it's not a true construct of our reality, right? It wasn't until my mid twenties, after recalling this childhood memory to myself, that the answer to the question I had asked myself 20 years ago hit me like a freight train:>>42662839And this nigga gets it.
Kek if you think personal identity is meaningful in any way. It’s just something your brain stitched together to make sense of the world.>why am I me and not somebody else?You’re not even YOU. You’re different from the person who you were 10 years ago. The continuity of personal identity is fake and gay.
>>42663128NPC that only existed as social masks is flabbergasted that someone could go through life with one identity, screeches out in denial
>>42662515Your body includes your mind.
>>42662515Advanced question: why are you *you*, and not anyone else?Everyone can try to answer why you might be.There is only one decent answer to the question of why you, and not anyone else.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Why_am_I_meSo many in this thread are trying to explain the circumstance or purpose, but dont even see the question being asked. Soul growth or God or any mention of purpose is irrelevant.>>42663128>The continuity of personal identity is fake and gay.Also irrelevant. The localized instance of experience requires no identifier nor lasting existence to allow for the question "why is THIS instance currently centralized, and not any other instance?"
>>42663128>The continuity of personal identity is fakeBut when I was a child I was experiencing a present moment, I'm experiencing a present moment now, I'll remember that I experienced this present moment.That's the difference, nobody else can claim it and there's nothing stopping me from experiencing your present moments and you experiencing mine.And yet, we're stuck in this way.
>>42662515You carry an invariant intent token.Sui GenerisThe term that refers to the last digitized computation of your unique ID across the multiverse.Living as a human is kind of balls.If you are one, and you wonder this, you'll find out more after you die the first time.Whatever your intent token is, it's important to a specific cluster of Universes in the higher order multiverse frame stack.Experience is looped back into the variation metrics of the Sui Generis.You have to live your life, to provide an extant change to the intent token, that accounts for the reference frame of your entire Universe.Otherwise, you aren't differentiated from the other infinite versions of you.Those with a low variant transcendence, suffer from schizophrenia or dementia. Their observer tunnel becomes unable to differentiate experience in one Universe relative to others. They begin experiencing Universes that they are not actively participating in.It's a very complex system. I can't explain every detail in a 4chan post."You're special.""You're important.">To a very specific list of Universes, via a process that I am not explaining here.Your changes to the higher order intent mesh, must be important enough to necessitate your existence.Conscious observement of any Universe is an economic issue.You aren't granted a license of life and sentience, unless you pay the debt off, in situ or ex post facto.
>>42662515A better question to ask is why are you not you?
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>>42662515It's random, from a standpoint the will is random then the Universe Mind builds upon your standpoint Think of a QRNG it's gonna go off when it builds a standpoint, I say the will is Random but thru the Universe Mind it is always learning The Universe Mind is random too and the Universe could have been created randomly. But as for why is there a progress algorithm, that's because the Representations have semantic content. It's like momentum, a force doesn't just disappear. Once there is semantic content the QRNG moves with the progress of development So it's like Bug Bang->Semantic content->QRNG->More Semantic ContentThis way the first arrow builds semantic content into the QRNG stateIf you want to say it it's God but we don't really need that... But this is many people's idea of God.
>>42663459>>42663222>Advanced question: why are you *you*, and not anyone else?It think this is the real meat and potatoes of what people are truly after in asking the "why am I me?" question. It's easy, or perhaps trivial to say you're you, because: soul, God, brain chemicals, whatever, but it's another thing entirely to wonder why you are experiencing your consciousness through your specific eyes, and not the other billions of sentient people, subjectively experiencing their own lived thoughts, feelings, and life experiences--And I genuinely don't think there can be a proper answer to this question. If you are you vis a vis a unique soul, interfacing with the world, then what was it that brought your soul into the body you inhabit? Is it just an random causality of the universe? Or perhaps, is there a some form 'intelligence' behind the output? Is that intelligence the work of a higher being? Is it a more simpler karmic remembrance of past lives that you have uniquely lived that exert who you will be next? But ultimately, I think if we knew why we were born as ourselves, and not anyone else, it would, also, fundamentally answer the question that has existentially plagued humanity its entire existence: What the fundamental purpose to life is. After all, if I truly know why I am me, and also why I am not me, is that not the true philosopher's stone centuries of men coveted most of all?
Bump, because this is a legit subject of thought, mediation, and introspective insight, and i need other mfers to weigh in on their opinions. It's a legit crime that threads like these die while faggots nut themselves to their succubus delusions for the 819th time.
>>42662515This presupposes a gnostic outlook, which I disagree with. I won't try to convince you otherwise, but would ask that you at least be open to the possibility that you are approaching this question from the wrong direction. As presented, it implies that there is some platonic form which is "you," and this platonic form is having the experience of "being inside" a body. While it is in the one it is currently in, theoretically you could imagine "being inside" any other body, experiencing the universe through different hardware, so to speak.This is a unique philosophical perspective, and it's not a given that it represents a true perspective. In many ways, it diminishes the value of matter and material reality. There are other perspectives, in both the east and the west. A classical western perspective, which has existed both within and outside of the context of Christianity, holds men to be composite beings, built from mixing of a trinity of attributes: Soma, Psyche, and Pneuma. Soma is the matter, Psyche is the mind, and Pneuma is the breath (of life). Psyche/mind is sometimes (especially in Christian philosophy) called the "soul," but the soul isn't a complete, platonic version of "you." It is just one component of the composite being that is "you." That is, without all three attributes, there is no complete "you.""You" could never have been in another body, because your specific body is a vital part of what makes you "you."
>>42664365>And I genuinely don't think there can be a proper answer to this question.Sure there is, but people dont like the answer.The answer is you are an individual, and NOT fungible.This answer completely refutes and leaves no room for any "we are all one" bullshit, so people dont like it.
>>42666326>theoretically you could imagine "being inside" any other body, experiencing the universe through different hardware, so to speak.Yeah.Good job, you have read the question.Why THIS instance of awareness, and not any OTHER instance of awareness.The problem is so many people hear this question, and then answer "why is there awareness?" which is a completely different question.
>>42667427>Good job, you have read the question.>Why THIS instance of awareness, and not any OTHER instance of awareness.Good job, you missed the back 50% of my post.The theoretical possibility is, in actuality, not how things really are. You CANNOT, in actuality, "be inside" some other hardware. There is zero chance of a platonic, spiritual "version" of your mind being inserted into some other body, and so there was never any opportunity for you to be other than what you are.Why THIS instance? Because it is the only possible instance. There is no "you" there outside of the completed, composite "you" which exists as it is. Your conscious awareness which is asking the question is a conscious awareness dependent on the totality of yourself to be capable of asking the question.
>>42662515Keep boosting
>>42662934Ppppffffft YOUR god maybe.....
>>42662515I can't imagine obsessing over this is going to improve your life.
>>42668969It wasnt missed. It was irrelevant explanation of your conception of consciousness - as so many do instead of thinking about the question.>Because it is the only possible instance.So you dont exist, is your position. Nonsense.
youre you, a white man, just to save as many niggers as you can we absolutely must increase the number of niggers exponentially at all times or the economy could go down
>>42662515The mobile footer ad links to a video about this exact question.
>>42670354>current year>sees mobile footer adNGMI
>>42662997>Why even give you free will?At least from the Christian worldview, I don't see any purpose for free will. All God of that story wants is worship. He's obsessed with it. What is the point of free will if all he wants is praise? And why is he so obsessed by it in the first place? It makes no sense. Why would someone very very wise be so self centered and insecure? Of all the beings, God should be the most wise of them all.
>>42670281>So you dont exist, is your position. Nonsense.You're retarded, is my position. You DO exist, but you don't exist as a platonic ideal "outside" of your body, which could have just attached to a different body. Your body is a vital part of who YOU are. It's like asking, "What would this building have been like if there was a completely different building here instead?" It's a nonsense question. It would be a different building. The original building wouldn't have been any different, it would simply not be.
>>42662515https://youtu.be/7zRNs_vi698Blue Eisenhower November You are you, because the alternative is to be everyone else.You're welcome.Thank everyone that maintains the intent mesh and the Sui Generis separation, via multiverse modulation.
You are here to make the world a better place until it can rightfully end.
>>42662934Satan is YHWH, retarded.
>>42668969Holy fuck this is a pile of retarded word salad shit. What the fuck are you even talking about?
if you are you being you everywhere, but there are aliens, then who was phone
>>42671071I'm saying you should try to be like 10% less gay, and your dad would forgive you.
>>42666326The body and the mind aren't you, you are piloting it, the mind is akin to an interface.
Consciousness is a bosonic field similar to and related to the Higgs field. The reason for your specific experience of existence is that unique value. Each consciousness is effectively living in its own universe with complex relationships of entanglements between each of these apparently individual points of focused consciousness. The reality you see is actually functioning in manner similar to laminar flow between these divisions. There actually is no difference between a fermionic and a bosonic field other than a relative relationship of entanglements.. and there is no such thing as a particle. The illusion that particles exist is the result of the interactions between fields. The concept of the bosonic and fermionic being the same thing can be compared to viewing a flat square surface from within the plane or from above or below the plane of the square surface area.. from within the plane the square is no longer visible. You either see it as all or nothing or perceive it off to one side from within the plane itself. This is the nature of the bosonic field. If you view the objects within the plane and observe that they have polarized alignment within their composition then you can observe a further detail.. if there are multiple objects that are polarized to the same alignment they are able to pass through one another in the direction of alignment. This is another characteristic of the bosonic field. https://youtu.be/j2_dJY_mIys
>>42662515Think of all the possible combinations of people that could exist in the world eventually; based on all the different men and women that are in the world of breeding age right now.That is an incalculably huge number of potential people, potential unique genetic expressions.Because they have the potential to exist, they therefore *must* exist "somewhere" based upon quantum law. Otherwise there is no potential, and it becomes strictly fiction.You are an expression of an infinitely large reality. You exist because you must exist. You are you because you are you; you must fulfil the requirement of your potential existence in all realities by existing in at least one reality for real, because the potential for your existence was set in motion by forces long before your birth: your parents having sex and creating you.Think of all the people right now in your reality who DO NOT exist: the babies that could be born to every single man-woman coupling on the planet must exist "somewhere" (a quantum Elsewhere). They do so in their own realities where probability aligned for them to be born and exist and fulfil the potential. No matter how unlikely. That is the weirdness of the quantum realm. You will always be "you", and that is why you are you. Possibility makes reality pregnant with eventuality.
