I've found 2 of these fucking things and it is pissing me off. A few months ago I rewatched Dragonball Super with my son. I was waiting for the best Kamehameha ever at the end. He's fighting Jiren and after all the regular "Goku's got nothing left" routine he goes ultra instinct one last time and is starting to get a hang of it, but not enough to use it correctly so he needs to end the fight fast. Jiren is losing his cool because Goku has proven to be formidably annoying rather than just plain formidable. Jiren shoots a series of blasts that Goku uses to ride a direct path up to him after the arena has been damn near obliterated and on the way up he goes "Kaaaaa" and to both sides he starts to form small blue balls of light in BOTH hands. Bouncing blast to blast, Goku is hopping his way closer to Jiren continuing his "MEEEEEE-HAAAAA-MEEEEEE." And about now he slams his hands together and compresses the two blue blasts into a huge light purple ball, which then super condenses into a darker purple shiny ball, and which point Jiren reaches out for Goku and suddenly Goku instant transmissions next to Jiren to deliver the final "HHAAAAAAA" and blasts Jiren point blank with the blast, shooting him out of bounds and winning the games. Obviously, we know this doesn't happen because 17 wins. But this is what I remember happening.
>>42673283The second one was when I was about 19 I read all the Harry Potter books, getting ready for the release of the last book, Deathly Hollows. Recently, I've decided to listen to the audio tapes because I'm at work and need something to listen to. I've gotten all the way through the Order of the Phoenix and remember Hermione starting up SPEW with the goal to free all the elves in Hogwarts. What I distinctly remember is that after struggling so much to gain ground, she takes a leaf out of Fred and George's book and causes a little chaos in the kitchens by giving some speech and convincing all the elves that they need to be paid for their hard labor and given free time, similarly to Dobby. She does this realizing she shouldn't be trying to convince the people. She should be convincing the elves. And she does this through Winky because she's a drunk mess after Fudge fires her. The other elves start to feel wronged and taken advantage of so they stage a boycott and stop cleaning and cooking for Hogwarts for a few days leaving the towers relatively dirty and the students and teachers figuring out how to feed themselves until Albus Dumbledore returns with Umbridge being removed from headmaster position (and don't forget, she was raped by horse cock in the Dark Forest). Immediately upon his return, he has everyone meet in the great hall where he sets matters straight, fixes a bunch of things, and then specifically brings up Hermione, congratulating her on her tactics and efforts to bring her organization to light, allowing it to evolve in the many stages of her fight.
>>42673289She also announces that she has convinced the elves to accept her clothing, they've been freed, but they chose to remain at Hogwarts making the same wages as Dobby (1 galleon a week and 1 day off a month). And he gives special praise as this new action has given Winky new life and to sober up. She also ends the conversation about working on a plan for the Centaur and giving back some land, which immediately has Ron and Harry in a panic because the Centaur are not exactly friendly anymore.But this never happens. This was the climax I remember, but as the audio books stand, there is no conclusion to SPEW. It just stops getting talked about, except in a passing not in book 6. This makes the entire subplot completely pointless and if you'd have removed it from the plot, then you'd not be the wiser.Does anyone else remember this stuff?
>>42673283I don't know shit about Harry Pothead but I know dragon ball. Your memory is shit and you're combining the kefla fight with the jiren fight. Stop drinking so much.https://youtu.be/xekjE_wtOwk?
>>42673452Except the Kefla fight doesn't go at all like I said. Maybe you should learn to read :/
>>42673491>ultra instinct >starting to get the hang of it>bounces on her attacks until he unleashes the final Kamehamehaso exactly how the kefla fight ended, alsothe final Kamehameha is a move used by vegito. stop drinking you faggot retard. last time I'm gonna tell you.
Unpopular opinion: I find the science of memory failure more interesting than the Mandela effect theorizing
>>42673491evidence. have a nice day and quit drinking.
>>42675921But why would everyone's memory fail in the exact same way to remember the cornucopia
>>42675917>>42675924>trying to grasp at strawsTry reading OP's post again. The fights are very different from what's described vs what's shown on youtube. Unless you are having a ME yourself. >>42675921>>42675931Why doesn't anyone ask the question why the cornucopia looks exactly like it did in the past if it never existed to begin with? Why isn't it a DIFFERENT cornucopia?
>>42675931Same reason optical illusions work similarly across different people. They’re like cultural illusions.
>>42675924>using a kamehameha to resist a blast>blue kamehameha>not purple anywhere in site>flipping instead of hopping>Kefla not Jiren>blast in face of Kefla instead of temple of Jirenlol your reading skills
>>42676007>Why doesn't anyone ask the question why the cornucopia looks exactly like it did in the past if it never existed to begin with? Why isn't it a DIFFERENT cornucopia?The clip art of Microsoft Office in the ‘90s was homogenizing iconography
>>42676015That literally makes zero sense. Would you care to post actual research studies to support whatever this meant?
>>42676019Cool statement, but that doesn't answer my question.
>>42676021Here’s one simplified example of a well-studied quirk of our associative memoryhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deese–Roediger–McDermott_paradigm>>42676019Picrel
>>42676027Yes it did, you just can’t into abstract reasoning
>>42676018Red and blue make purple. Your brain knows that and hallucinates a fake scene because you are incapable of consciously parsing your thoughts due to severe alcohol abuse.>small details you misremembered yep
>>42676021Are the flashing black dots in this static image evidence of a parallel universe bleeding over into ours? Or is it just an optical illusion?There are memory illusions, where certain associations emerge despite not being 1:1 with the original, and memory is influenced by culture, which can be shared across a large population. People call these illusions the Mandela effect.
>>42676018Furthermore. Frieza has a purple aura and was part of an earlier portion of the final fight against Jiren
>>42676085>Are the flashing black dots in this static image evidence of a parallel universe bleeding over into ours? Or is it just an optical illusion?The first one, obviously.
>>42676656That would conform to my analogic theory of cognitive illusions being framed as /x/ phenomenon. Two approaches: one literary, one scientific. Both are fascinating to me, but the latter is, moreso, with these Mandela effects. I like figuring out where the memory contamination came from. There’s like a detective angle to that, while the, “CERN caused us to shift realities,” side is repetitive and directionless. With optical illusions, the romantic explanation can be more interesting (“Archons are flashing black dots at us as a form of communication!” etc), but with the Mandela effect it feels so reductive and dull to just say “alternate universe” instead of “MS Office 1995 had cornucopia clip art that millions of people associated with the Fruit of the Loom logo in their memory. Also, a Marmaduke comic strip from Thanksgiving 1973 featured a cornucopia that millions likely associated with Fruit of the Loom,” or whatever.>picrel, tile A and B are the same colour
>>42676038>>42676052I get that you’re trying to give a rational explanation for an irrational phenomenon.But I never used ms clip art. But I remember the cornucopia drawn precisely the same as OP’s pic on my tighty whiteys. That’s where I learned about the word cornucopia.I know it sounds like we’ve been watching too many marvel movies.But I think we might just have a limited perception of what is actually possible.Take pic rel for example. The mirror is super natural to the leopard. A perfect reflection is beyond its comprehension, because it’s not possibility that can perceive.I think the Mandela effect is hard to take seriously, because we don’t know how to. But that doesn’t mean we can’t learn from it.
>>42677078I’m open-minded and totally agree in principle, which is why I’m on this board, but I’m also a super autistic skeptic with a background in both STEM and psychology.I’m unsatisfied with the typical “parallel universe” and “residue” theories, but if I were to entertain them I might introduce quantum consciousness theories (eg, orchestrated reduction by penrose and hamerhoff iirc). It’d go something like the cornucopia being part of a probabilistic memory space that hadn’t been collapsed until people were made aware of the fact that there definitely isn’t a cornucopia — like an alt-history bleeding into our memory with incomplete backwards propagation due to the fuzziness of actual-historical memories related to it. So like, there’s a world where it does have a cornucopia, and you’re just erroneously remembering that possible world, retrospectively. This, as opposed to it magically changing at any point in the history of your actual reality. That introduces unnecessary complication, violating Occam’s razor, so I wouldn’t bet money on it.Alternatively, there could be some paranormality related to the idea of “morphic resonance” from Rupert Sheldrake. Fewer people noticed the cornucopia in a democracy of perception, so the universe developed a habit of presenting it without one. Put simply: 1) It had a cornucopia, 2) a lot of people didn’t notice the cornucopia (eg, globalization causing Fruit of the Loom to enter markets that didn’t have the Thanksgiving holiday), so 3) now it doesn’t have a cornucopia — even retrocausally, with incomplete propagation, again. That also introduces unnecessary complexity.So yeah, something MAY be going on, but it’s unnecessary to fully explain it.
>>42677078>That’s where I learned about the word cornucopia.Lie.You learned it in school during thanksgiving.No one was pointing at a kid's underwear to explain a horn of plenty.Unless you grew up around a bunch of pedos.
Does anyone else have shows they remember seeing at least a few years before it 'actually' aired?I remember seeing the promos for a show called Castle around like 2005-2006, but a few years ago I found out it first came out in 2009. This kinda baffles me as the layout in my house was very different between those years. And also, I remember the switch from analog to digital then, not flippin' Castle ads. And no, I am not confusing it with Bones. I remember seeing the ads on ABC, Bones aired on Fox. In fact, Bones seems to have started like in 2006 now, which is a slight change for me, though not as strong.
i dont remember morty having ears
>>42673283I'm posting this one again because it's pissing me off.Anyone else remember in Dark Souls original version (not remastered), that the Power Within spell's visual effect was kinda like Magic Barrier but red? It's changed to a gay fog effect (note in remastered it always was, I am talking about OG ver)
>>42676747Storytime related to this one. Back around 2021-22 I temporarily entered a timeline where the Soviet flag had no star on it. (No, I'm not the anon from the pic). I was browsing through Mandela threads when I saw a new Mandela I had never seen before: apparently the Soviet flag never had a star on it. This shocked me for two reasons. First, because this was apparently a super popular Mandela, yet I had somehow never heard of it before. Second, and more importantly, the Soviet flag obviously had a fucking star on it. It's one of the main communist symbols for God's sake.What was really fucked up was that the flag didn't really look like the one on top in the pic there. That has been edited to move the hammer and sickle a bit higher. But in the timeline I visited the flag basically looked like the star had just been covered up in MS Paint. There was a giant empty space above the hammer and sickle that looked completely unnatural.About half a year later I was browsing Mandela threads again and lo and behold, the star was back right where it's supposed to be. Now there were some anons claiming that they were from the no star timeline, but it doesn't appear to be nearly as popular a topic here as it was in the other timeline, where it felt like everybody was talking about the missing star.The skeptic faggots over there were claiming that we were just mixing up the Soviet flag with the Chinese one, and misremembering because the star was such an important communist symbol that our brains just autofilled it into the Soviet flag. I'm so glad those retards don't exist in this timeline.
>>42677361Or I just asked what that brown thing was on the label, while we were shopping, you gaslighting pedo.
>>42679287those are premium cum rags
>>42677196> I wouldn’t bet money on it.Nor should you. But it’s counterproductive to just dismiss it.I think there are areas worth entertaining, rather than taking seriously.Personally, I like the clown world hypothesis, where the gaslighting has gotten so far out of hand that we’re living in a parody of reality.Do I believe it? No. But it’s the most rational explanation, according to Occam’s razor
>>42676052>>42676038No, it really doesn't. Abstract is not the same as false memory, which is not the same as detailed memory of events, imagery, or actions. Taking the fruit of the loom logo as it is being exampled here. The cornucopia is detailed accurately in OP's pic. But in the other posted imagery, that is incorrect. That is the issue with Mandela Effects. People agree on the same oddity. Not a random degree of inaccuracies that are similar. The problem with claiming false memory is that everyone has the same memory. Including details. I don't agree with a lot of ME's, however, the fruit of the loom logo actually does resonate with me as this is literally how I learned what a cornucopia is. I called it a horn in class with a teacher who demonstrated it with another student as a popular clothing brand, and she corrected me and explained to the class it is not a horn, rather a cornucopia. >>42676077You say things that make no sense. You should try to learn to read before making a point about a real world phenomenon.
>>42676085>>42676733Optical illusions don't equal ME's or memory. Not sure why you are mentioning this. This is absolutely provable. Illusions don't explain mass agreement of "interpreted past." >>42676095You're trying too hard.>>42677078Exactly>>42677196I don't know if I'd agree with parallel universes either. But ME's are real and contain far more witnesses than statistically possible if just a strange coincidence.
>>42677361Read above.>>42677630I've had this experience with an older 007 film with Pierce Brosnan, but my friends told me we didn't see it because it just came out, even though I narrated pretty much the whole movie when we "first saw it." >>42679730I agree in many cases, but not all. The monopoly guy with a monocle is an example because it is literally referenced in movies, like Ace Ventura. How did everyone get it wrong? Including adults within that era?
>>42680110>Optical illusions don't equal ME's or memory. Not sure why you are mentioning this. This is absolutely provable. Illusions don't explain mass agreement of "interpreted past."Memory illusions and optical illusions are both errors in cognition. What you see isn’t directly fed to “you” through your optic nerves — it’s staged, prepared, just like details from your memory. Your present moment is synthesized from several different subsystems of cognition. Both your immediate vision and your recollected vision are not raw information.>ME's are real and contain far more witnesses than statistically possible Yes, memory errors are real, and they impact everyone. (I know you meant Mandela Effect, but I couldn’t pass up the opportunity to appropriate your acronym.) This is why eyewitness testimony is so often wrong in trials. It’s why so many conspiracies start right after traumatic events, since people claim with certainty that things happened which never happened.>>42680104I’ve seen tons of variation in the reports of Mandela Effects that I’ve read, since I’m just as obsessed with this stuff as you. So no, everyone isn’t claiming the same thing, even about this cornucopia.
>>42679287I was alive in 1996 and I don’t even remember the logo that Fruit of the Loom was using then in picrel. Notice the circle around their logo.As for your photo, it’s an ancient photoshop using the logo from this popular imgurhttps://imgur.com/test-nGVVA43
>>42673283>mfw Froot of the Luim
>>42680104Just because it doesn't make sense to you doesn't mean its senseless. You just don't understand how the brain works because you're a young man who drinks too much.
>>42680110You're not trying hard enough, retard. Your memory isn't perfect and the TOP ended almost ten years ago. You're a narcissist who refuses to believe he is anything less than perfect. Ala, a faggot.
>>42680399Optical Illusions simply do not equal false memory. And no, variations in ME are not typically reported. Usually everyone agrees on one thing, which is the phenomenon itself. >>42680498Congrats, I am alien to your world and there isn't anything either of us can do about it.>>42680593No, you have no idea what you're talking about and that is the problem. >>42680599You made me laugh, kiddo.
>>42680599Why are they a narcissist just because they called you out on your bs?
>>42680836I never said optical illusions “equal” false memories. I said both are caused by the same underlying cognitive processes. This is a fact.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognition>kiddoNah, I’m an oldfag autist.
>>42680871Oh, sorry your “kiddo” was to someone else
>>42673283Mandala effects are for idiots. That’s so entry level dude. Go study an alien book or something and grow a brain.
>>42680871Illusions are typically of the present where as false memories are stored information in the brain. You can also frequently interpret illusions as a deliberate action (for example magic shows). It is also important to denote that different parts of the brain are accessed by both. And neither has to do with a detailed shared experience that is "wrong" (ME). The ME is a phenomenon where people agree on the same thing that is supposedly not real. This is why it goes about delusions, illusions, and false memory. It is because it is a shared reality that is "incorrect." A psychologist can agree with you, but also disagree with you due to the fact you are naming something correctly, but applying it incorrectly to the ME phenomenon. For example, the monocle of Monopoly existed to both children and adults. Example, Ace Ventura. If the monocle never existed, how did so many people think it did before the idea of ME's become popular thought? This is what makes it a phenomena.
>>42680962The present moment is constructed in your head, not directly accessed through the senses. Information from your visual cortex is pulled. Information from your memory is pulled. The illusions of both are highly analogous. “Seeing” a white and gold dress as black and blue isn’t all that different than “recalling” a black and blue dress when it was really white and gold.With the fruit of the loom cornucopia, I speculate that the associative memory contamination happened in part due to Thanksgiving clipart.With the monopoly monocle, I’d speculate that the associative memory contamination happened due to rich people in general being associated with monocles. Picrel.Our brain doesn’t store raw facts. It stores a network of weighted associations. It recalls information from that network, not some list.
>>42681032The problem now is you are just making assumptions while ignoring the reality of the phenomena itself. If it was one person, perhaps they are having a false memory. But so many remembering the same thing, that is not false memory anymore. And you can't come to conclusions based on assumptions. And your theory doesn't explain mass awareness of the same thing, which is ME.
>>42681032Second picrel.I Bing’d “rich old man clipart” and these two monocled men were in the top 10 results.Clipart iconography is useful to compare against Mandela effects because it is intentionally a basal representation of some abstract concept, like rich old man. It’s designed to be recognized faster than a stock photo — more parity with expected schema.LLMs are fantastic for generating such content because they also use weighted associative networks that are highly compatible with our anthropocentric culture.
>>42681070The memory illusions are quite common. More people have them than don’t.You are correct that I’m bringing my own speculation, but it is enough to satisfy my curiosity. I find it more fun to think about why so many people are misremembering than the dead end of “something paranormal is afoot.” I’m open-minded, and even brought up two novel theories in this post: >>42677196
>>42673301I believe this was a fan fiction that someone narrated on youtube a LOOOOONG time ago.
>>42681112I can't believe that without proof.
>>42680836>YOU DONT KNOW WHAT YOURE TALKING ABOUT!Easy to say from my view too. If you're not willing to meet me in the middle then you deserve whatever fate you get
>>42680856Name the bs retard. Everything I said was fact and everything he said was wrong because he's an imperfect monkey like everyone else. This whole thread exists because he thinks he's better than everyone who remembers properly. Narcissism. Read a book bubby boy.
>>42680115It’s easy to mix Mr monopoly with Mr peanut. But the animators remember drawing the coconut bra.Even the animator remembers drawing it.Why would they even draw the skirt and let him dance around toppless?
>>42681942Jungle Book and Robin Hood shared a lot of animations, so they probably wanted to keep the character Baloo and Little John inter-traceable
>>42681964I know, but don’t see how that’s relevant.The coconut bra is central to the gag. I mean why would they bother with the skirt? The bra would be easier to animate than the skirt.
>>42684205It’s a Disney’s kids movie. The joke wasn’t cross dressing. Indian men wear skirt-like clothing, especially in the Kipling era
>>42684205>>42684216>I wanna be like youyou = mankind
>>42681593>bsWhy are you acting so immaturely?
>>42681593That's weird, I didn't pick up on any of those ques. OP even made this post specifically requesting information on whether or not anyone shared the same experience. They aren't going out of there way to let you know how much of a retard YOU are, acting like you have a pretty solid chip on your shoulder. The only one acting narcissistic is you, friend.
>>42684216You are the gayest retard to ever fag up a Chan I have seen yet. And I’m from /biz/ so that’s saying something.I hope you lose all of your mom’s money and die of retardant aids.
>>42681942Did the mandela took away timon's coconuts too?
>>42673283Here's a quick reality check:https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/s/ierNRINBCy>TLDR:>This planet is Bozrah, not Earth. What's more, you should be warning people about the upcoming "day of vengeance" here on Bozrah. Keep in mind that the 1,000-year Millennial Kingdom will take place on Earth, not on Bozrah. This planet will be destroyed (and Jesus will be the destroyer). It has no future.>Bozrah is basically a replica of Earth. People who have lived here their entire lives NEED to realize—once and for all—that this celestial body was never Earth, and it never will be. It's an impostor planet. And if you have an issue with that, take it up with God, not me. I just speak the truth (nothing more, nothing less).>Bozrah's human anatomy is distinct enough from Earth's human anatomy that the differences allow me to know, with 100 percent certainty, that this is a different planet. Not 99.99 percent certainty, but literally 100.00 percent certainty. On top of all of that, the speed of time here is a blazing 50 percent faster compared to Earth! Yes, you read that correctly: fifty percent faster (as in 1.5x speed, and thus a day on this planet is only 16 Earth hours long). So, forget about all of the anatomical differences for just a moment; the time difference ALONE allows me to know, with 100 percent certainty, that this is a different planet. Now, ask yourself the following question: Is God not watching each and every person who tries to debunk these differences?>You, the Bozrah native, are the one who has been deceived. Not me. God didn't send me to the other side of the galaxy just for you to tell me that I have been deceived. You are the one who was born on an impostor planet. Not me.>Update: In June 2026, a Reddit admin deleted my main Bozrah post! It had been up for over four years and was last edited in May 2025. It now exists as an X article. The redpill post will take you to my pinned X thread, which will then take you to the article.
>>42673283Quantum jumping, we doing it all the time.Sometimes the jump is a bit too big and noticeable changes happen.
>>42685932https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/s/QbBZhTQQN2>Bottom line: This planet is Bozrah, not Earth. Moreover, the event in which Jesus destroys this planet is called "the day of vengeance." There will be no 7-year Tribulation or Antichrist here—because this isn't Earth. Earth is roughly 75,000 light-years from here (and is currently going through the Tribulation). This is merely an impostor planet, a physical replica designed to serve two purposes: (1) a containment realm for a particular bloodline (namely, the Edomites), and (2) a temporary sanctuary for select individuals (namely, the elect or "remnant of Israel") who were raptured from Earth prior to the start of the Tribulation.>By the way, the thing that I'm referring to as "Bozrah" is not a symbolic concept. It's not an eschatological metaphor. It's not an allegorical parable. It's the physical, corporeal planet you're currently residing on. And unless you confront that fact head-on, you'll remain in total darkness—fully deceived by the illusion. So, in regard to our current location, let me be crystal clear: This planet was never Earth, and it never will be.
>>42673283The newest one I've seen is the Doritos pig commercial, not entirely convinced.>>42685932>hurr my autistic super power is counting>AAHHH IT CANT BE ME COUNTING WRONG>THIS IS BOZRAH BECAUSE IT JUST IS
>>42673283>But this is what I remember happening.No you don't.
>>42681593>calls others narcissist >"Read a book bubby boy."
>>42685027Thanks for the input, /biz/. You seem stable.
>>42686997third-ies malapropistically uno reverse
>>42685852I don’t know. I don’t remember shit about the lion king because my fake and gaydar shut me out at that point.
