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You think that in heaven they still let us do the fun things we got to do here?
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>>42679415
You are supposed to dance around and tell an old guy he’s great or he will torture you.
Heaven is a tyrannical empire given rose colored lenses.

Do not burn your body.
Send it back to the earth.
Heaven is Neptunian. An aquatic domain. There is a reason all thought dream and imagination is symbolized in cloud/water.
The “flying” is swimming.
You become trapped in the cloud and enslaved if you burn the body. The burning of the body is just the doorway to the actual Hell to come.
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i do assume yes, but also taxes and other bullshit of society as we are late
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>>42679415
God has his own Battle Garegga cabinet. It is a kamige after all.
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>>42679415
No. There's more fun things to do
>>42679508
Nope. You live happy and free at no personal cost whatsoever.
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>>42679595
do i still get to eat ass and pussy?
mods i'm serious
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>>42679603
Nope. There's no sex. You'll no longer want to, either. Being in heaven feels better than sex. I know that sounds extreme but I really mean that.
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>>42679595
>No. There's more fun things to do

Mostly have to do with human world. Influencing humanity. Planning out other lives. Helping your soul group. It is the ultimate videogame.
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>>42679653
Researching the history of the world, the universe, researching all the alien planets and stuff that happens through history between aliens.
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>>42679653
No, nothing like that. Your power fantasy isn't heaven. It's just a return to the conditions God intended for us and we feel naturally inclined to seek. Peace, joy, and comfort. You just get to be happy.
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>>42679653
did everyone give up,up thar?
you hope you get the heaven you desire.
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>>42679666
no thanks.
sounds like being harvested
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>>42679674
Being unconditionally loved and having all of your needs fulfilled sounds like being harvested? Harvested for what? And to what end?
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>>42679666
You think that our work is done? There are so many tasks we have to do.
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>>42679680
to sustain it self, why would it need so many souls then.
but i hope you are right and your god is loving
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>>42679681
Yeah. That's exactly what I think. That's how Christians think of heaven, and op is asking about the Christian God presumably.
>But in my opinion-!
Not relevant
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>>42679687
>To sustain itself
Why would an eternal being who exists outside of the laws of physics need to consume energy to sustain itself? He existed before anything else existed, what was he eating then? Where did he get the energy to create the universe? He makes us because he likes us.
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>>42679680
You are describing hell, that is probably why everyone volunteers to come here, no doubt.
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>>42679700
I don't even know what to say to this. Being happy for all of eternity is hell? What planet are you from?
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>>42679696
>He makes us because he likes us
yeah, as toys for his sadistic pleasure
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>>42679709
and what if you are already happy here? I will walk you through it
>you are forced to leave it through death all the things that make you happy
>you can't have those things in even or play videogames there. You are just supposed to sit there in a stupor, like a heroin addict

It is far better to 'earn' your happiness.
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>>42679715
I understand your heart is broken by this evil world. I've thought of God this way before as well. This isn't what he wanted for us. Please give him a chance. He'll prove it to you. In my darkest hours, he was there for me. He understands the weight of this place and wishes to liberate us from it. But that's a decision we have to make.
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>>42679720
You don't sit there in a stupor and suffering has no inherent value. Suffering is an aberration of existence that came about by our rebellion. Heaven is actively experienced. You are animated and participate in a separate eternal life.
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>>42679740
if we are forgiven, why have us fall in the first place?
if its not to find desire then why suffer at all?
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>>42679757
>if we are forgiven, why have us fall in the first place?
That was our choice, which we are forgiven for. God didn't "have" us do anything. He gave Adam, literally, the entire world. Adam did the one thing he was instructed not to. He chose to disobey God, and God respected his decision.
>if its not to find desire then why suffer at all?
Suffering is for nothing. Christianity does not view suffering as have innate value. God does not have a more positive opinion of you because you stick to a disciplined workout routine or stay up late to study. God loves us unconditionally. Suffering is only a feature of this fallen world, as neutral as the sky or the ocean.
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>>42679740
You have fallen on a paradox. It is impossible to be happy on the other side when you know there are people suffering on this world. Imagine how indulgent that it would be. This is why I believe most of the work on the other side is geared toward the living. Helping them. Influencing them. Seeding their growth as guides, life planners, and spirits.
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As a Christian I unironically think not. I wouldn't be surprised if movies and videogames and media in general is considered idol worship or something. From our autistic fleshy perspective that sounds disappointing, but I'm sure whatever God has in store for us is beyond our imagination. That doesn't stop me from having autistic fantasies about being able to play Runescape to completion knowing with eternity I'll definitely have the time to finally 99 every skill.
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>>42679780
>It is impossible to be happy on the other side when you know there are people suffering on this world. Imagine how indulgent that it would be. This is why I believe most of the work on the other side is geared toward the living. Helping them. Influencing them. Seeding their growth as guides, life planners, and spirits.
If you're not a Christian, sure. In Christianity, the dead are asleep, no one is a "ghost" haunting or guiding loved ones. The dead don't become conscious again until everyone is judged at which point those who don't receive the second permanent death just live forever with God as immortal beings.
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>>42679822
yayyyy love popping beings into existence just to erase them.
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>>42679794
>I wouldn't be surprised if movies and videogames and media in general is considered idol worship or something.

That is why many think that heaven is actually hell. You have no freedom or choice. Why else do you think we chose to come here?
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>>42679861
>Why else do you think we chose to come here?
Poor decision making.
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>>42679415
>Villains kill weak NPCs
>NPCs forgive them because they're passively good
>Hero is actively good and kills villains
>Villains don't forgive the hero because they're evil
>Heaven ends up full of powerful evil villains and passive NPCs
>Hell full of heroes
Dark meme when you think about it
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>>42679666

>666
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>>42679780
>It is impossible to be happy on the other side when you know there are people suffering on this world.
God's justice is perfect. There is an awareness that things will be worked out.
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>>42679415
i assume heaven if it exists is just more of this stuff and i'll be an exiled loser there too
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>>42679726
shut up, christ tard
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>>42680253
What happened to hoping I was right?
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>>42679500
Tyranny is the term of satanists. Bow to your sensei. BOW TO YOUR SENSEI!
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>>42679674
Tell me about the cat. How did he get so long?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-HuYUaSjNU&list=RDV-HuYUaSjNU&start_radio=1&pp=ygUVaGVhdmVuIHJvbGxpbmcgc3RvbmVzoAcB
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>>42679415
Yes. Your life is a video game. One that you wrote the storyline to, designed and picked all the characters, location and all the missions. I don’t understand what people don’t get or accept about that.
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>>42679415
>heaven is a place, a location, and involves the same mind/perception you currently experience through.

You sure? I would have thought it was just being in some form of reality/experience that is just sheer and utter highness/bliss/euphoria of the likes you couldn't even understand and it doesn't cease, it isn't uncomfortable, it's perfect, and nothing can harm you or take away from it. The location, the time, the effort, or position, the context, none of it matters because the experience is perfect.

Or is that not what ''heaven'' is? Heaven is just like going to some gated community and some guy tells you that you're not good enough for some reason and it bothers you enough to explain yourself and try to qualify your short comings to him because you feel insecure about what he has said about you in some way, or you are under threat for some reason, that's heaven? That's paradise? Just some place where you're not good enough and something tells you, sorry pal, you're not allowed in here, super Disney land is full... try being tortured instead cause you're not enough for here...
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>>42680258
what happened to serious replies instead of christian homilies
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>>42681377
This. "Heaven" or a perfect existence is impossible no? Just have to settle for the least bad version, and that would entirely be up to each person.
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>>42679415
No and not because you can't, but because you won't want to. After transfirguration of the body, you will realize that much of what you used to do for fun is pointless and self aggrandizing. You will want to do other things, which are not only more fulfilling, but will help everyone around you.
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>>42681401
I'm not going to live like that. The least of bad things? No! I want excelsior things.
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>>42681401
I wouldn't say it's impossible. The fact that a mere human can conceive of it means it's possible, and only a question of where, or how. There's also advanced astral projectors who've reported having encountered many different "heavens" such as those belonging to the different religions.

I for one have pre-birth memories of a perfect world (perfect looking to me).
Would be cool to have a discussion about these matters without christ-tard trash like "he made u bcuz he luv u."

If heavens exist btw, they do in spite of the evil god of this universe. No doubt he'll get around to dealing with them eventually.
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>>42680710
Bump
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>>42681090

>You sure? I would have thought it was just being in some form of reality/experience that is just sheer and utter highness/bliss/euphoria of the likes you couldn't even understand and it doesn't cease

That's "divine" and yes I assume that divine things with creatures would also be in Heaven.
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>>42681478
>in spite of the evil god of this universe
Agreed. God is an evil idea, and no doubt would crush anything half decent about ANY form of existence.
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>>42679415
Idk Anon and no one does. I will say I have noticed if I pray for success in a video game I can feel his presence with me and success usually follows. I am always baffled that he actually cares to help out with something so small, but he does. I don't think he cares for the game, but he does love you and will help if you ask.

Reminds me of being a wee lad and asking my Dad to beat a game for me. Well God loves us more then our father, so maybe it shouldn't be surprising. Maybe if you asked for a video game to play in heaven he would give you one. The best one too.

Also I remembered asking God for a vision. I was scared about my salvation. Well I got one in the form of a dream. I was in minecraft(in the dream) and everything was nice. Suddenly it became dark and zombies were all around me. I looked up and Jesus was there in a bright light. He deleted the world and when it reloaded it was good again. I interpreted it as showing me I will be around for the final days and won't be destroyed with the world(but I am not so good I will be raptured). I got the sense the vision was in a game because he knows me well and knows I would understand better that way(not because he personally is a gamer). I really love that about God. He knows us so extremely well.
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>>42679415
I don't think gamers get to go to heaven
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>>42679769
Why when someone commits suicide god doesn't respect decision not to exist
>God loves us unconditionally.
So why he allows devil to rule this world?
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>>42681692
Heaven needs calculations so gamers are good.
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>>42679666
>no fun allowed
>666
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There is no heaven or hell nigga, we're currently in "hell", earth can be heaven or it can be hell.

Life is a videogame.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dy6neKO-8sk
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>>42679415
In the heavenly realms in samsara - yes. they are places of very little struggle and lots of luxury, so you can spend your time doing the equivalent of vidya, though they likely have much better systems of play.

In God's eternal realm - there are vidya games if God wants to play them, and you will have more joy than you can ever experience materially by serving God as a fellow player.
But all the joy will come from serving God, not from serving yourself through vidya.
If God doesnt want to play vidya games, then you wont, but any soul in God's realm wants to do what God wants.
The whole, "not my will, but thine" thing Christians get on about.
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The problem Christians and most Abrahamics have is that they have confused and combined the higher realms in material existence that are full of pleasure and luxury (though still temporary)
with the eternal, spiritual realm of God that has all souls orbiting and serving Him in some fashion (not necessarily just in a servile, fawning manner).
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>>42679415
Well there exist a chance the image being true. What fellow gamers do then?
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>>42681680
i found if you love the game in the same way you can hopefully love him his power flows through you
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>>42681753
>>42681782
tl;dr

hindu slop
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>>42681823
You read it, but you didnt like having answers.
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>>42681866
I literally did not read it.

All belief systems (B.S) are just human imagination, deities don't exist.
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>>42679415
Heaven is a spook
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>>42681545

>God is an evil idea

Lol, lmao even.
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>>42681805
I think I get what you mean, but can you elaborate more? I struggle to describe it myself. In those moments it's like the love of the game is sidelined and you are just enjoying his presence and it's good. Probably just a fraction of what heaven feels like all the time. It's beautiful.
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>>42681918
You did, though, which is why it angers you.
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>>42681918
If he said this and meant it he was a liar.
His beard is extremely complicated.
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>>42679415
Could you imagine a psychic world where everyone had every whim of their desire? It would be more degenerate than earth, of course there's no heaven.
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>>42679415
there will be things so glorious that you wont need video games so probably not.
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>>42681996
Probably why the heavenly realms are gatekept for those with altruistic whims.
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>>42679500
Do you think you're a big smart deep thinker? Think you've stumbled on some profound realization with this gem? lmfao
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>>42681944
The moment i saw a hindu word and picrel i stopped, beyond that i literally have no fucking idea what you typed besides it being some random ass wall of text.

>>42681987
Not really, just wait a few months with the right genetics.

>>42681937
There is no good & evil.
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>>42682095
>The moment i saw a hindu word
So you read, and it upset you, and now you have to backpedal on your lie.
And you know this is a lie as well. you read the whole thing.
You're just mad that it gives a better answer.
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>>42682113
-9000 unreedeemable izzat points, saar
Indians are very low quality humanoids, so don't bother acting as if anything you say has any value.
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>>42682190
>mistook knowledge for race
We can post our skin or our eyes or our noses and see which of us is darker, if you like.
Still doesnt change that you read what I wrote, and it upsets you for having the answer.
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>>42681937
>Lol, lmao even.
low IQ cliché
I always get heavy fremdschämen when one of you idiots types that shit
if you're gonna laugh at someone at least be original about it
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>>42682197
>muh raycism saar
You are and your shit is retarded, smelly browny nonsense.
So stop trying to ridim lost izzat.
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>>42682236
So not only did you read it, it got you upset, but now that you want to try and make it about race, you run like a little bitch from proof.
I'm whiter than you, and you know that too.
Just say the word and I can prove it, or prove you're a coward that knows it.
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>>42682243
>So not only did you read it
I didn't.
>u mad saar, u mad saar, umad saar!
Still trying to rideem your lost izzat i see.
>i am "white" bruhmin saar
>Just say the word and I can prove it, or prove you're a coward that knows it.
Jeet, shitskin?
I have no any clue what the fuck are you talking about, retard
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>>42682319
Lot of bullshit to run like a little bitch again, darkie.
you read my answer, it got you mad, and now you are scared that a true white man is lording over you.
Come on. Prove me wrong. Let's post our eyes.
Mine are blue. Let's see yours.
Dont be scared just because I'm superior.
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>>42682051
It's not necessarily "profound" to recognize that the Yahweh god Christians imagine is unwise and immature. It is simple observation.

If the jews had had today's hindsight when inventing Yahweh, they could have generated a far wiser and more believable deity. Instead, we get a god who, despite having unlimited knowledge and wisdom, just sits around agonizing over whether enough people like him and collects gold for some reason, a material that he could make infinite amounts of.
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Abrahamic slide thread
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>>42682327
I am not even that anon, retard
And white people have white skin and white culture, so they don't care about izzat, inbred freak
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>me arriving at the pearly gates and being introduced to the 1 billion souls I slaughtered in path of exile alone before getting sent to boil for eternity
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>>42679415
You forgot to learn this one lesson:
>You reap what you sow
>The wicked lay traps that will pierce their own hearts
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>>42679415
I've always assumed that everything that we created is also in heaven, I want to be able to read, watch movies, listen to music, play vidya and everything else in heaven. And then I assumed we'd have heaven exclusives, like games that only come out in heaven. I assume in heaven I can have pretty much anything I want, within reason.
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>>42682459
Doesnt matter, you are dumb enough to post about it, so it's making you mad as well.
I'll porove you darker than me as well, if you want, except you are too much of a coward to post your skin as well.
>more care about Indian bullshit
The only ones who care are the ones bringing it up.
My point was made a long time ago, and it upset you - or anon if you want to pretend - and you cant let that go.
So let's make it about race and see your eyes, coward.
You wont.
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>>42682510
The Lord laughs at the wicked for he knows their day is coming
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>>42682623
BTW and that is in a literal sense. Where God is not a human (Baring Christ) or an animal
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>>42682566
>I'll porove saar
>you darker than me
My sides.
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>>42679415
Here's a tip pal, you wont care about video games, not even a little bit. If you only knew how little you would care about video games, you will not believe it. Fun also loses all meaning because you're not a dumb little human anymore
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>>42680710
>>42681481
Lot of loyalty for a hired bump
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>>42682694
So another to run away. Okay, nog.
I still know my answer is there, and read, and that it makes you mad.
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>>42682785
>scrawny inbred currymuncher tries to act tough
You are very funny and pathetic
And you still haven't explained why should i give fuck about what you think, faggot.
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>>42682113
>SAAAR!!!!
>So you read
Literally one word, the moment i saw that shit and noticed the hindu picrel i tuned off lmfao.
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>>42681937
>omniscient
>omnipotent
Negates free will, says that all suffering is justified or beneficial.
God is just a cope for people that can't accept the universe inherently does not care about anyone or anything. Keep in mind this is radically different from metaphysical ideas.
So where is the good in an idea like god other than to act as a sort of boogeyman?
>no lives matter
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>>42682095
>There is no good & evil.
>There is no objective good & evil
There is arbitrary good and evil on a personal level, for many different reasons, in different context.
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>>42683712
Lol, no. If life were that black & white grey would not exist.

It's survival of the fitest, no morality whatsoever.
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>>42679861
>Why else do you think we chose to come here?
That's just the thing: we didn't.
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>>42682701
Could we, if we wanted? Let's say that I wanted to play Donkey Kong Country. Will they really tell me no you can't?
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>>42682519
when im not out on a personal vendetta against him, i like to think god has prepared 'his' version of every favorite work or piece of media we've ever consumed. and its perfect. you wouldnt touch a single plot point, character, theme.
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>>42683099
>>42683327
>darkie cowards still mad they read my answer
>still running like little bitches
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>>42684282
>he thinks i'm a nigger and he's to scared to say nigger
>-10000000 izzat
SSAAARR! I did not read the bloody chod text!
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>>42683702
>Negates free will
No quite. You have one choice:
You can accept that nothing is in your control,
Or you can delude yourself into thinking you are the doer.
It's your only choice of free will, and it affects nothing - which is why it is free.
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>>42684315
I know you're a nigger, which is why you are too pussy to show your skin.
I also know you read every word, and it pisses you off.
Prove me wrong, little bitch.
you wont.
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>>42684340
>give your biometric data to the glows saar!
>seething and spewing profanities of the profane.
And i still have no idea what type of shit stained kamasutra you typed back there.

I also don't have to prove anything to saars like you, your seething is all the proof i need.
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"Heaven" as the ultimate place for the human soul is a catholic (thus antichristian) delusion
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>>42684390
There is no heaven or hell.
This world is what you make of it.
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>>42680253
he does not sound Christian, the Christian God doesnt just "wish" for us to make the right choice.
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i thought heaven was for angels and god and souls were just sent to the pit
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>>42683785
Saying personal arbitrary good and evil does exist does not negate "grey". You need black and white positions with two independent actors to make "grey".
>It's survival of the fitest, no morality whatsoever.
>black and white statement
Jokes aside I agree with you for the most part. Without the strong/fittest the weak have no chance of survival,or living (in the wider self fulfillment sense).
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>>42684415
People decapitated for refusing the mark of the beast are in Heaven immediately and seemingly active whereas everyone else who ever died is resurrected for judgment at the end of Christ's millennial reign. At the end of Christ's reign God destroys the world with fire and recreates it as a new earth where everyone (including God Himself) dwells for the rest of eternity.
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>>42682707
How kot got long?
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>>42684701
>black and white statement
I don't think so.

By no "morality whatsoever" i meant that there is no morality pre established in nature, as in, nature is grey, nature isn't inherently good or evil.

As for survival of the fittest the phrase implies a contrast between the "fit" versus the "unfit", however evolutionary biology explains survival through continuous, interconnected, and highly cooperative processes within an ecosystem, it's not a strict, single-elimination binary of winners and losers.
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>>42679415
my acid experience in "another world" more real feeling than this one involved playing games with my best childhood friends over heaven-skype/twitch, so my conclusion is yes. Otherwise what's the point.
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>>42679415
Existing in heaven alone is a greater pleasure than anything you could ever do and he says we will have work
Joyful and fulfilling — free from fatigue, conflict, or futility, because our heavenly bodies will be sinless and immortal (1 Corinthians 15:49)
Aligned with God’s nature — God is described as “always at His work” (John 5:17), and His children will be like Him (1 John 3:2)
Part of God’s eternal plan — just as angels serve God, so will redeemed humans, in worship, adoration, and participation in His reign (Revelation 7:15; 22:5)
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>>42679696
Good questions.
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>>42679627
i'm not allowed to have any nostalgia for my mortal life?
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>God decides he wants to have a game millenia
>Everyone just plays video games with God for 1000 years.
>Divine mtn dew and doritos rain down like mana

Kino, but imagine the horror of accidentally team killing God in a video game.
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>whereas everyone else who ever died is resurrected for judgment at the end of Christ's millennial reign.

This never made sense to me.
I've asked this question to many Christian leaders of many denominations.

What about the estimated 100,000,000,000 humans who have lived and died before Christ? They did not have the opportunity to learn the scriptures or know Christ but they will be brought back and judged by the same metrics?
How could even a single one of them get into heaven?

The answers I've gotten fall into two categories
1. These people aren't judged as harshly (Like babies that die before they can talk, read or know God, they are pure)
2. They all burn in hell because it sucks to suck. Bad luck I guess.

Neither answer seems satisfactory.
-In the case of 1. Some tribesman who raped and killed all his life gets to heaven(the vast majority did this) but a modern atheist who never hurt anyone doesn't?
-In the case of 2. that means the vast majority of humans that ever lived are all going to hell and never even had the chance to escape it.

Can anyone solve this paradox properly?
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>>42684753
Meant to reply to you here >>42686453
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>>42679674
That's exactly what it is and when you wake up to the fact, the benevolent mask slips. Then you see the lizards for what they really are. They're all tyrants. They just want you to conform to make it easier for them to harvest you. They never tell you what the catch is and there's no way for you as a human to know.
If this is what God allows, God is evil.
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>>42679680
>Being unconditionally loved and having all of your needs fulfilled sounds like being harvested?
All anyone wants is a real life in a real world that isn't scripted by retarded lizards. You're all fags that just need to go away and let people live their lives.
I can't go to Heaven because I don't even know what it's like to be human because of you retards.
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>>42684367
>>give your biometric data
>skin color can be used against me!
Nigger is dumb and scared.
Always the case.
And read my answer, which is why they got so upset in the first place.
Run away again, little bitch.
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>>42686453
I think it appears hard to solve because we are simply ignorant of what God's judgment will truly look like. His judgment is perfect though. Not a single soul will disagree and that implies even the hell bound will know its just.

I have heard it said that pre christ humans will be judged by the basic morality we all share. We all know murder is wrong without being told. The tribesmen who rape and murder likely get hell. Following the herd is not an excuse to ignore your conscious.The ones who were peaceful and revered God in their own ignorant ways could be forgiven.

Genuinely insane people, brain dead people, people who died as babies? Idk. If those people go to heaven by default it wouldn't be fair to people who had to struggle to be good. Guess you just have to trust the big man.
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>>42685317
You've confused God's realm with the heavens because Christianity is remedial education.
>>42686453
Yeah, Chrisitan theology is messed up. If it were true it would better to keep as many people in the dark until Judgement so they cant make the wrong choice.
>>42686535
>His judgment is perfect though
But it isnt.
ESPECIALLY if we go by
>the basic morality we all share. We all know murder is wrong without being told.
Because anyone told what God does without all the extra God stuff would say "that man has killed so many, he is evil."
So why are we to be judged in ways that God isnt?
Or - if God is so different that he cant be judged similarly as us - how can God have any understanding to judge us?
>Guess you just have to trust the big man.
Or someone could reject Christian theology as not making any sense.
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>>42686453
Other alternative solutions I've gotten from regular Christians include

-Reincarnation is real (finite souls theory) and every dead tribesman from the 100,000,000,000 humans before Christ had at least one opportunity to incarnate post Christ and learn the scriptures to be saved
(This still doesn't make sense to me because most of the Earth still had not heard of Christ by 1500AD).
-Pre-civilization tribal people were not 'fully conscious humans' (see Bicameral Mind Theory) and thus were more like animals in the eyes of God. They were never eligible for heaven or hell in the first place.

>>42686535
>The tribesmen who rape and murder likely get hell. Following the herd is not an excuse to ignore your conscious.
>The ones who were peaceful and revered God in their own ignorant ways could be forgiven.
Very interesting point, but this would unfortunately only include children who never got to the adult stage of ubiquitous violence unfortunately. There's good evidence to suggest >50% of pre-civilization humans died from direct violence (not even including famine or disease caused by warring tribes)

>>42686556
>Yeah, Chrisitan theology is messed up. If it were true it would better to keep as many people in the dark until Judgement so they cant make the wrong choice.
Based on the rules I learnt growing up Christian and remaining curious enough to still ask Christian leaders about the nuances of these questions this seems like the obvious 'loophole'.
Personally it makes me very uncomfortable about the 'rules' themselves.
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>>42686586
>>42686453
The final solution to this paradox I've heard is that all of history is simply fabricated and made up, and no humans nor the Earth nor the Cosmos existed before 5000 years ago, so every single human that existed had the opportunity to be saved by God.

This is the one argument I can't really argue with because it requires you to throw out every bit of science and history. All that evidence and data is just wrong.
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>>42686525
>glowie thinks his biometric ragebait will work
If you're so adamant about skin then why haven't you posted yours already sukdeep? Are you the one who's scared saar?

>still sething and spewing profanities of the profane
>read my answer
Haven't read it and still won't, i'm not interested in the metaphysics of cow dung.
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>>42686586
>Personally it makes me very uncomfortable about the 'rules' themselves.
For me, the fundamental mistake Christianity makes is assuming the eternal soul has a creation point.
So much of the bad logic and convolution comes from this.
>>42686616
>all of history is simply fabricated and made up
If that was the case, then it also means there is no corroboration. Any attempt to "prove" the Bible by pointing to external events is admitting you dont accept that history is made up.
Really then, any similarity between the Bible and "history" would be a mark against the Bible.
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>>42686586
I came up with a theory like that independently. Similar to quantum Immortality. I called it quantum salvation. Of the infinite possible versions of you across all timelines and universes, only the you who passes God's judgement was given a spirit/soul. All other versions of you are just animals/nps. Those failed yous do get judged and destroyed, but you succeed. Completely baseless, but it would be a perfect judgement and infinitely merciful at the same time.
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>>42686638
>If you're so adamant about skin then why haven't you posted yours already sukdeep?
No need to make it obvious you're a sheboon.
Write that you'll accept the challenge and you know how much of a pussy coward nigger you are, and I'll post first.
You already read mmy answer and know i'm right.
Now we can prove how right I am about your skin as well.
Except you wont even write that you'll accept the challenge because it'll prove how weak and pathetic you are.
But go on- do it.
Say you accept that if I post my skin and you dont, it proves how much of a shitskin you really are.
You wont.
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>>42686646
>For me, the fundamental mistake Christianity makes is assuming the eternal soul has a creation point.
I agree, and personally think the way out of this logical dead-end is at least considering the 'new-age' theories of Christianity. Like 'quantum salvation' as the other anon said. It's very woo-woo and out there but there's not really better options to reconcile this.

>>42686649
>Of the infinite possible versions of you across all timelines and universes, only the you who passes God's judgement was given a spirit/soul. All other versions of you are just animals/nps.

Would this mean that there's a limit to how many 'real souls' inhabit each individual reality or maybe the reality you and I happen to exist in is just disproportionally full of 'real souls'?

>>42686653
Shut the fuck up and please engage in real discussion.
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>>42686664
Maybe we are in a pretty good timeline. Maybe some there is literally only one good man who has it all to himself. Could even be duplicates of yourself that were also good in another, idk. Thats alright, might be interesting to meet yourself. Another good version of you is the only real issue I have thought of.

If their is finite souls then I suppose their would be finite timelines. Wouldn't really be a need for a universe 10,000,000,000,000,000 if there isn't even that many souls.
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>>42686664
>is at least considering the 'new-age' theories of Christianity.
No, that is bullshit. The whole structure is built on bad assumptions and error. No need to use it at all.
>Shut the fuck up and please engage in real discussion.
Lol, I am. Attacking the nigger for being too scared to commit to racism is just for entertainment.
Wait - are you the nigger? lol
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>>42686556
Gods realm of Heaven was always his
>>42686453

Those who never had a chance to know God are judged by the base morals all humans are born with.
The tribesman who killed and raped all his life will go to hell because he knows this is bad but refuses to listen to his morals
The tribesman who helps his community and does good will go to heaven
They also get judged on a lower standard since they can't do a lot of the things Christ commands but you can still repent on many sins like if you murder someone but truly feel repentful then take care of their family you could potentially have a chance at getting in.
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>>42686717
>Gods realm of Heaven was always his
God's realm are not the Heavens.
Heaven is the place of great luxury everyone wants. It is still a material, self-serving place.
God's realm is where all existence is centered on and serving God in love and bliss. It would be an incompatible, terrible place for any being that still prefers to serve themselves as center of existence.
>Bible's view
Christianity is wrong.
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>>42686653
>ramdeep still hasn't posted his skin
Oh no no no! XDDDDDD

SAAAAAAAAAAAR!
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>>42686734
So you ARE the nigger. Hilarious.
And again you prove too cowardly to even just type you'll accept the challenge.
You know I'm white, and I'm right.
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>>42686741
>You know I'm white, and I'm right.
Yet you still haven't posted your skin saar.

-100 gorillion izzat
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>>42686746
>just type you'll accept the challenge.
You know I will, and you know you wont.
Because you are a nigger, and scared.
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>>42686751
>sukdeep wants me to write a declaration on the mongolian yurt weaving forum

>scared
Projecting, and still no skin post.

>-1 billion izzat
>+10 goybucks in your account for the (you)
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>>42686734
Nobody cares. You chose to type like a jeet engaging in retarded race rage.
It's sad because you have some interesting things to say when you're not intentionally behaving like a subhuman.

>>42686717
>The tribesman who killed and raped all his life will go to hell because he knows this is bad but refuses to listen to his morals
>The tribesman who helps his community and does good will go to heaven

The vast majority of pre-civilization people did both of these things. It was simply how life was. Murdering neighbouring tribes and raping their women WAS protecting your own.
If these people are not judged as harshly as an atheist who doesn't break any laws, never hurts anyone but doesn't believe in the Christian God then that seems quite unfair to me.
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>>42686649
Another thing I forgot to mention, probably the most interesting implication. If a regular average guy can think of this solution, then what God is actually going to do is going to be better (objectively). As happy and good as this idea sounds it's simply not the best solution. It would be impossible for a dumb human to have a better idea then God and that is indisputable. The implication is quantum salvation is actually a sub par idea.
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>>42686775
Dont mind ruining your thread this way.
All you have to do is accept the challenge.
Why does it scare you so much to type some words?
It's because your skin is brown, and you know how inferior that makes you.
>>42686788
>Nobody cares.
The nigger cares. They have two choices, and both loses.
Either they stop responding and we can stop shitting up the thread.
Or they accept and be shown as the cowardly nigger they are.
I'm fine with either, or with it derailing your thread into a slide.
Their choice.
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>>42686788
>Nobody cares, You chose to type like a jeet engaging in retarded race rage.
You cared enough to reply

>>42686796
>All you have to do is accept the challenge.
All you have to do is poo in the loo
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>>42686803
Every reply is another chance to prove you are a scared nignog.
All because you were mad at reading the answer.
It can all end once you accept the challenge.
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>>42686807
Every reply is another chance to prove you are a scared ranjeet.

And the ride never ends.
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>>42686812
>wants thing
>just has to type a phrase to get thing
>wont type phrase
Ask yourselves, anons.
Is it because they are scared? Because they have a dumb nigger brain? Or a mix of both?
Likely a mix of both.
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>>42686816
>Shartjeet thinks he can bait or others for izzat like he's on reddit and that he's entitled to the answer he wants.
>Gets clowned on eternally.
Rinse & Repeat
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>>42686830
Just accept the challenge, nigger.
Why does it bother you to reveal I'm white and you arent?
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>>42686830
>>42686816
It's sad that retards and bots like you and that other guy can completely derail good conversations here.
Even if your skin is white you are a subhuman.

Anyway hope you anons are able to steer the conversation back away from these retards.

There's too much to say on this topic to give any attention to idiots with nothing to say.
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>>42686835
Just post a photo jeety.

And why do you think you're entitled to an answer? Izzat running low?

>>42686844
This thread was dead before this lmao, there is no heaven or hell in the abrahamic sense, earth is heaven or hell, it's what you make of it, life is a sandbox game, beyond this is the abyss.
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>>42686844
At this point it's clear to me they are a glowie sliding other threads.
I'm fine with that, and have repeatedly offered the way to end my contribution.
All they have to do is accept the challenge.
>>42686850
But they are scared because the nigger knows I am white, just as they know what I wrote and it pissed them off.
They are so retarded they think a challenge is an answer.
And just see how they try to say the thread is dead.
It isnt, it just has added fun of making the darkie reveal their cowardly ways.
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>>42686858
>At this point it's clear to me they are a glowie
Projecting, you glow and just want biometrics.

>I am white
Then post pic saar!
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>>42686870
>nigger still scared
Accept the challenge and you get mine.
Why wont you?
Not asking for your pic - its on you to post or be revealed as a nigger AND a coward, instead of just a nigger.
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>>42686875
>Glowing Intensifies

>Not asking for your pic
>Show your skin and accept the challenge
Lmao
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>>42686887
No, nigger, try to understand.
The challenge is to post skin, or be revealed as a coward nigger.
No one says you HAVE to post skin.
You can prove your darkie nature by just running away.
Just like you are now.
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>>42686892
There is no need for a written challenge, you could've posted skin before on your own yet you feel an izzat need for a duel like some retard.
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>>42686914
No need to run from typing a phrase, either.
It just cements how cowardly you are, because you are scared to reveal your nigger skin.
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>>42686922
No need to run from posting skin either.

You continue not to post anything also and expect me to take initiative and to fall into your reply bait, how curious, this isn't reddit and your izzat honor has no meaning here, i don't owe anything to benchods like you.
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>>42686939
>No need to run from posting skin either.
So go ahead. I'll do it if you accept the challenge.
you are a coward nigger that will never do it at all.
I know this. you know this.
just you read my answer and it pissed you off.
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you arent allowed to cum in heaven.
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>>42686952
>So go ahead, I'll do it if you accept the challenge.
Why don't you take initiative then? You don't need a challenge for that, why do you feel the need for a challenge? Trying to farm izzat?

Your guilt tripping doesn't outside of reddit ranjet, you go first lmao.
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>>42686973
>doesn't work outside of reddit
le spelling mistake
>inb4 jeet reply
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>>42686973
>Why don't you take initiative then?
Because your pathetic running from typing a simple phrase is funny, and if you do ever get up the courage to type it, I can easily prove that the only thing holding it back is you.
And your nigger skin.
>now he's nervous about typos
lol, dumb monkey
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>>42686989
>Because your pathetic running from typing a simple phrase is funny
So is your lack of initiative and skin

>now he's nervous about typos
I can sense your ad hominem glow tactics from a mile away
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>>42687006
I initiated the challenge you are scared to accept.
You can only react to what I type.
Because you are a dumb nigger.
Just like how I pointed out you are a glowie sliding the thread, and only then did you start talking of glowing.
Niggers cant have thoughts, only reactions.
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>>42687009
>I initiated the challenge
Yet you still haven't initiated your pic which is curious, and again you still feel the need for an izzat challenge.

>You can only react to what I type.
Just like (you) are doing right now.
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>>42687021
>Yet you still haven't initiated your pic
Yeah, nig - challenges need to be accepted first.
Here, I'll show you.
Yes, I accept that we will both show our skin, and if one does and the other doesnt it proves they are a cowardly nigger.
Do you accept?
Now all you have to do is type "yes."
You wont.
Because you are scared monkey.
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>>42687077
>challenging others on an anonymous tibetan basket weaving forum for izzat instead taking initiative and posting a pic himself with timestamp.
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>>42687088
>nigger now sad he tried to make it about race after being called out
It's fun that now you are scared to just type "yes."
It's so easy to piss you off and manipulate you.
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>>42687077
>challenges need to be accepted first.
Says who?
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>>42687090
Says me, a white person.
And you are still running scared from a simple "yes."
Because you are a dumb nigger.
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>>42687089
It's so easy to piss you off and get (you)s from you.

>>42687094
>Says me, a white person.
Post skin or it's cap.
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>>42687097
But I'm enjoying your cowardice, nigger.
You already read my answer and the thread is basically done.
It's just loosh from calling you a dumb nigger and your only response being too much of a bitch to do anything about it.
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>>42687098
And i'm enjoying your seething.

>You already read my answer and the thread is basically done.
No ranjet, i still haven't read your essay on the metaphysics of cow dung.

Loosh isn't real
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>>42687104
>Loosh isn't real
Well now we know your a glowie, as well as a cowardly nigger.
Keep sliding whatever you want.
All it does is keep proving your shit skin.
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>>42687109
Who is we?

And the monroe loosh slop is demoralization propaganda to make people think there are other beings above them which instills a slave mentality of submission towards them.

Yes there are other beings out there but they are indifferent to you and not "above" you, they also don't give a shit about you to, read into Lovecraft's Cosmicism.
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>>42687118
>Who is we?
Any white person with a decent brain.
Probably why it doesnt make sense to you, a nigger.
>desperately trying to move away from their running like a little bitch
Youve already shown how retarded you are.
the only interest is showing over and over how you're a coward nigger.
Now you can either accept the challenge and prove you are a nigger that way, or you can repeatedly hide and prove it that way.
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>>42687126
>Any white person with a decent brain.
Define decency, decency along with other "socially accepted" qualities are for herds and normgroids like you.

>Youve already shown how retarded you are.
>Says this in perfectly broken english

>Now you can either accept the challenge or...
So you're a binary thinktard to
>It's either le this or le that
How about i transcend either and just keep laughing at your seethe jam boy.
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>>42687136
>Define decency,
Oh, you want something?
Accept the challenge and I will do that, too.
you wont, dumb nigger.
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>>42687137
>no counter arguments
>still seeking izzat
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>>42687138
>please please please stop proving i'm a nigger
Nope.
Youre a dumb nigger that is too scared to do anything.
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>>42687140
>please stop
Who said i wanted you to stop seething?
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>>42687144
>nigger cant comprehend basic sentences
As usual.
Still dumb.
Still a nigger.
Still a coward.
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>>42687147
Still seething.
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>>42687150
Hardly, every reply amuses me that a dumb nigger tried racism and is now scared that their bluff was called.
Keep sliding away, coon.
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>>42687158
>tried racism
You're the one who called me a "blackie/nigger" for using a black gif lmfao.

Keep sliding that cow shit down your throat.
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>>42687164
>You're the one
No, I said I am willing to prove I am white if you accept the challenge.
It's your cowardice that proves you are a nigger.
And your attempts to backpedal here are VERY funny.
You're still a nigger.
You're still a coward.
You're still my bitch.
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>>42679415
Don’t take the concept of heaven literally, it is not a place, it is a state of being. There are many heavens and afterlives, those aren’t heaven
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>>42687177
You also confuse heavens that you accept exist with God's realm, which you erroneously call heaven.
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>>42687173
Your need for a "challenge" and to "prove something" tells me all i need to know.

You just can't help that Izzat craving.

There's also your free use of slurs
>bitch bloody benchod

You post hindu slop, talk like an indian and act like an indian.
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>>42679740
>our rebellion
Is this that thing where I'm held accountable for something someone else did?
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>>42687186
There's no need. You have already proven you are a nigger.
You just keep seething over it, so I keep calling you as the dumb nigger too scared to do anything but run like a bitch.
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>>42687201
>You have already proven you are a nigger.
Not really, however you have already proven you are a shartjeet.

>You just keep seething over it
You're the one replying roflmao.
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>>42687221
>no u
The best a dumb nigger can think of.
I am happy to post my skin, as soon as you accept being proven a dumb nigger if you run like a bitch after I do.
Just say "yes" and then I'll post and you can try to pretend your blind as well as a dumb nigger bitch.
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>>42687231
>no u
>says this like he didn't "no u" me a few replies ago by calling me a nigger after i called him hindu.

>Just say "yes"
I don't have to prove shit for izzat or take orders from anyone, especially from shartjeets like (you)
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guys i know this is a "gamer" thread but you don't have to act like it
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>>42687245
No, nigger, try to use that monkey brain of your.
you accused me of jeetness, I said I will gladly put up a pic if we both prove our skin, and you ran like a little bitch.
You ran because you are a nigger.
You reply because you are my bitch.
>>42687248
All the glowie has to do is say "yes".
They are scared to.
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>>42687248
It's just for the lulz anon, it's quite enjoyable.
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>>42687248
Niggers have dumb ideas of humor.
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>>42687256
>you accused me of jeetness
A reasonable assumption considering your hindu slop posting and current attitude.

>I said I will gladly put up a pic if we both prove our skin
Yet you don't take initiative.

>All the glowie has to do is say "yes".
Projection.
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>>42687256
>You reply because you are my bitch.
I reply because it's fucking hilarious
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>>42687273
>assumption
Thus the offering of a pic, that you ran from like a bitch which we can use to prove your shit skin.
>Yet you don't take initiative.
Say yes and you get a pic.
You wont, because you are my scared nigger bitch.
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>>42687284
>Thus the offering of a pic, that you ran from like a bitch.
You're the one runing away to a "challenge" instead of outright posting it and taking initiative.

>Say yes and you get a pic.
I'm not your dog lmao.

>you are my scared nigger bitch.
Projecting in IMAX now, you're the bitch to my replies here jam boy.
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you are both bloody son of a bitching at each other.
if its not just one schizo
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>>42687298
>you wont do what I say
All you have to do is type "yes" and you get a pic.
You wont because you are a scared little nigger.
And because you are my bitch.
>>42687303
One simple word and we move on.
Ball's in the nigger's court.
Maybe a sport analogy will break through to them.
I find it amusing that they keep showing how much of a coward they are.
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>>42687306
>All you have to do is type "yes" and you get a pic.
All you have to do is post it and take the initiative, i'm not gonna ask for your pics like some onlyfans simp.

>And because you are my bitch.
It's actually because you are an izzat slut that feels like he needs to prove something on fucking 4chins of all places.

>Ball's in the nigger's court.
The cow dung balls are in your mouth actually.

I find it amusing you still haven't swallowed them.
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>>42687313
>All you have to do is post it
For what? I have no reason unless it proves you again to be a cowardly nigger.
>words words words
Nigger.
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>>42679415
What a dumb pic.
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>>42687320
>For what?
To prove that you aren't sukdeep from bangladesh if you do indeed claim to be white.

>I have no reason
Because you know you aren't white and will get clowned on for it, i personally couldn't give a shit if you're hindu or a nigger but you seemed offended when i called your text hindu slop.

Fun fact, with just the same success i could've also called it buddhist slop, christian slop, etc...
My goal wasn't racial but your offense to it made it racial and by extension funny.

>words words words
Now you are just no u'ing what i said here on these posts about your hindu slop (the tl;dr):
>>42681823
>>42681918
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>>42687335
>Because you know you aren't white and will get clowned on for it
Then type "yes" and get your clowning.
But you know I'm white, and you're a nigger, and that scares you.
So you never will.
Just keep running, little bitch.
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>>42687338
I don't need the clowning, you're already doing it yourself.

You're trying to impose a challenge because you're afraid of what might happend if you post your skin alone, i personally couldn't give a shit but other anons might.
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>>42687351
Oop, the nigger ran away AGAIN.
Like a little bitch.
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>>42687358
I don't see you posting anything either.

Trying to hide behind a challenge.
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>>42687362
I just need to have you run from the challenge like the nigger bitch you are to prove my point.
And you prove it over and over.
Just like my answer runs around in your head and makes you mad.
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>>42687367
And i just need to have you hide behind your challenge to prove my point.

>Just like my answer
That i didn't even read.
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>>42687378
But it doesnt, because I am happy to post a pic, and you cant even say that because it would mean you would have to run from yet another lie.
Because you are a dumb nigger.
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>>42687381
>But it doesnt, because I am happy to post a pic
Then do it
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>>42687384
Say yes if you want it.
Why cant you say you are happy to?
It's because you are a nigger, and scared.
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>>42687390
Scared to post it alone?

>Why cant you say you are happy to?
Because i dont seek izzat or recognition on an anonymous basket weaving forum with no updoots & reddit gold.
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>>42687397
Pointless to. Your running away proves you are a nigger, and you not getting that shows you are dumb.
>attempts racism
>okay, lets see whose white and who isnt
>runs like a nigger
point proven
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>>42687399
>attempts racism
Calling your post hindu slop wasn't racist but your reaction to it pivoted it to that, i meant hinduism as a religion and not indians in general, if i wanted to make it racial from the get go i would've used harsher slurs.

>Your running away
Your running away from the initiative proves my point and you not getting that shows you are dumb.

>okay, lets see whose white and who isnt
>posts nothing
point proven

We can keep at this til bump limit lmao.
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>>42687419
>your reaction
Was to say lets see our skin colors, and you were a scared nog that ran away.
>pathetic deflection
Nigger.
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>>42687436
>Was to say lets see our skin colors
Then show it first, no "yesses"
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>>42687442
>lets see our skin colors
Try to comprehend, little negro.
Accept and I will go first.
run like the bitch you are, and we can see your darkie nature.
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>>42687446
I'm not the nigger you were replying to.
Curse Vishnu. I dare you.
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>>42687471
Okay, I curse Vishnu.
Call the nigger a dumb bitch, I dare you.
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>>42687446
You go first without acceptances.
If you are so confident about yourself it shouldn't be a problem.

You accuse me of being black yet the only proof you have is one gif i used, i'm not gonna post biometrics to prove a point and if you don't believe me then just go ahead and spew your usual jargon.

I'm willing to bet you won't even post an image beyond this reply and will just say words.
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no mods today?
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lol
obvious samenig is obvious
>desperately trying to reach image limit to avoid posting their shit skin
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>>42686453
I always heard Christ ministered to these souls in the grave during the three days between his death and resurrection.
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>>42687495
>You go first
First implies a second,correct?
Say yes and I post, nigger.
>You accuse me of being black
No, you reveal your nigger skin by your nigger way of running like a little bitch when your bluff is called.
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>>42687498
Not trying to acheive anything actually, in fact i can stop now as i see this back and forth is going nowhere, if you want to call me brown for it then go ahead and upload your bios to the glowies if you want to prove a point.

>>42687503
>implies a second right
Sure, won't be me though.

>running when my bluff is called
Just like you are running from posting it now with your "yes".
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>>42687520
>in fact i can stop now as i see this back and forth is going nowhere
Dummb darkie couldnt tell that from the third reply.
Run away, like you always do, nigger.
> like you are running
not in the slightest.
I made the condition clear, just you made your cowardice clear that you never will no matter what.
All you have to do is accept, and I'll post, and you never will because you are a nigger.
Prove me wrong.
you wont.
You cant.
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>>42687526
>i made the condition clear
But can you take initiative unconditionally?

>you made your cowardice clear
Just like you're doing now.

>Prove me wrong.
I won't, but can.
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>>42687538
>gimmedat for free!!
>ran away again
Dumb nigger cant help but do dumb nigger things.
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>>42687544
>Ad hominem fallacy
Yeah as i thought, i wonder why you can't do it unconditionally if you claim to be that confident.
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>>42686850
>there is no heaven or hell in the abrahamic sense, earth is heaven or hell, it's what you make of it, life is a sandbox game, beyond this is the abyss.
So did you become a Godless heathen before you became a glownigger or afterwards? Because you shitting up the thread with your friend by starting a stupid unrelated argument, like a glownigger, and being a godless heathen is reinforcing a pattern in my mind. Like I really can't not notice.
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>>42687553
I have no need.
My point is I am fine doing so, and you aren't because you are a nigger.
Say you are fine going second, and I will.
You can't, because you are scared, and will run like a bitch instead.
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>>42687559
They can't help their savage ways. It's in their genetics just like their skin.
It's why they much such great tools for the glowies.
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>>42679415
Yes, there are video games and you'll get to do the fun things you got to do here. You'll probably be more interested in the doing the fun things you DIDN'T get to do here, especially the fun things no human EVER got to do here. But there's everything good in heaven, to include everything that was good about or on Earth.
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>>42687559
Your blind faith in some abstract concept of deity blinds you, i see all religions as pathetic attempts to explain the ineffable, to me they are all slop and a product of human imagination. (which is why i called it Hindu(ism) slop in the first place).

I'm no "glowie" nor do i have a "friend" here, i had some laughs but i didn't meant it to develop into this shitstorm.

>>42687563
You say you are fine doing so yet refrain from doing so unconditionally, which is curious, by that same logic i can also say that i have no need lmao.
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>>42687577
You can stop it by saying "yes", and said you wouldn't because youqant lulz.
Nigger now is lying to others because they can't imagine others have read.
Just like they read the answer and it pissed them off.
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>>42687582
>You can stop it
I don't care if it stops or not and you can spew your ad hominem seethe in the corner all you like.

>others have read
Anyone can write a book, a book doesn't prove anything, books on "established science" get redone and thrown out all the time.

And for like, the fourth time i still haven't read your answer, but if you're gonna be this much of an ass about it then i will as i type this.

And now that i have it's even worse than i thought, you to have a blind belief in some abstract god or samsara as an actual place (instead of a concept), and the Abrahamic God (Demiurge) is literally Saturn if you pay attention to what is written.
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>2 niggers destined for hell arguing with each other itt

Sad fate for them indeed.
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>>42687577
It's far from blind faith. It's also far from being purely an abstract concept. If religions are attempts to explain the ineffable, they're part of the scientific corpus, even where the methods don't follow modern scientific standards. Exactly what about attempting to understand the unknown is pathetic? If anything, they're an attempt to explain the human imagination and the conscious experience writ large.
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>>42687604
>nigger writes a whole book about how he doesnt care
Lol nog mad.
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>>42687606
Only one nigger.
If you stay and post five times laughing at the niggers posts, I'll prove I'm white.
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>>42679415
Video games are dead because nobody plays them.
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>>42687608
>Exactly what about attempting to understand the unknown is pathetic?
It hurts their monkey brain.
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>>42687606
Hell-o there Anon, we are already in hell actually.

>>42687608
>Exactly what about attempting to understand the unknown is pathetic?
If it's infinite and limitless as most claim then it's just a futile rabbit chase into nothingness, and imagination is also not infinite, you can't imagine a new color.

>>42687611
Nice "no u" and copy of my reply "care" from here >>42686803

>>42687618
Nobody plays them because BlackRock made them all shit.
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>>42687618
Video games are bigger than ever, they just seem dead if you listen to the doomposting AAA companies do so they can claim losses to the tax man.
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>>42687623
>nigger thinks exploring unknown is pointless because there is more unknown
>has deficient imagination
Yes, I imagine being a shit skin is living hell.
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>>42687618
you can blame shareholders buying everything and hiring the same consulting firms to make everything as marketable as possible.
its in everything not just media
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>>42681694
>So why he allows devil to rule this world?
God doesn't allow it, humans do

and suicide is bad because you are murdering a human, and murdering humans is bad

Suicide isn't special, it doesn't have it's own rules.
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>>42687604
Oliver Tree was for sure an industry plant, and I still don't believe he's dead, he just got a normal haircut and is choosing to live a normal life under an alias.
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>>42687623
It's infinite and limitless, like an ocean. When you dive into the ocean, you can come back up with a fish, or a pearl. When you dive into the unknown, you come back up knowing something you didn't know before, and you can turn that into all kinds of things. We're talking over the internet. People dove into the unknown and made the known over and over to make the things it took to make the internet. If you catch a rabbit, was the rabbit hunt futile?

We can't imagine in a color we can't see, but we can imagine the idea of a new color or a color we can't see. We know these colors are real and other animals can see them. We can imagine how we might see them. Maybe if we edit our genes and our nerves, one day, we will see them. Imagine in them.
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>>42687630
Try imagining a new color outside of the current spectrum and show us then (you can't), you are limited.

As for the unknown then yeah, you get unkown and further unkown until what exactly? Even if humanity theoretically attained godhood from this unknown there would be nothing to do "late game", what exactly is the goal of the unkown here? To explore it like Columbus or something?

Or is it something more abstract that we pour blind faith into?
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>>42687640
>murdering humans is bad
there are a few times in the bible god calls for villages to be razed completely
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>>42687640
How is anything existent not allowed by God?
It may only be temporarily allowed, and not asvised, but God is tolerating it happening.
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>>42687648
>Try imagining a new color
Okay, done. Cosmic.
>and show us
How would you see it, dumb nigger?
>until what exactly?
Why does "exploring the unknown" need to end? Try to think beyond your big nose and lips.
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>>42687651
Yes, and that wasn't murder. Murder is killing without a just cause. You can still kill with a just cause.

>>42687654
Humans are allowed to do anything, even disobey God. That should show you God really loves you, because he set you free, even if you are a dick to God
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>>42687665
>Humans are allowed to do anything, even disobey God. That should show you God really loves you, because he set you free, even if you are a dick to God
Agreed.
God loves us so much He builds entire universes where you can search and search and never find Him, if that is what you want.
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>>42687644
Interesting dubs.

>>42687645
Yes i've read about the cosmic ocean, and the idea of imagining a possible new color doesn't have color or shape to it as we don't know any colors outisde of our visible spectrum, the animals might be the key to this but i don't see exactly how.

Gene editing appears to have drastic side effects.

>>42687662
>Okay, done.
That was a trap question, our imagination relies on past sensory experiences, and because our eyes only possess photoreceptors for the 390 to 750 nm range, our brains have no reference point to create a truly new color in our mind.

>Why does "exploring the unknown" need to end?
So it's just an endless spiral into nothing then, does that mean that there is no purpose? Or is the purpose to get lost in purpose?

Crowley talked about this.
>picrel

>>42687686
Which "god" are you speaking of here?
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>>42687693
>our imagination relies on past sensory experiences
YOUR imagination is limited in such a way, shit skin. White people can extrapolate, and give answers.
Once again you get pissed at reading my answer, just like before.
> into nothing
The unknown is not nothing, monkey.
There are many ways to understand or build purpose.
>Which "god"
The Supreme Person.

Aren't you glad you ran away like a bitch from being a nigger? Bet you thought that stopped.
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>>42687482
The nigger is a dumb bitch.
(Or you're a Dravidian rice bag lol.)
>gg either way
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>>42687700
I'm not, and will prove it, if you want to wager your skin as well.
But at least you are better than a nigger.
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>>42687693
>>picrel
thats how i feel when ever people tell us utopia is unattainable.
we barely even make moves or try. just let the few have it all while cracking the whip
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>>42687693
Now that i wonder about it, the bible says god completed creation yet creation is full of knowns which may mean it isn't fully created.

Spacetime implies our universe is deterministic and quantum physics implies we are co creators, so scientifically there may also be a grand plan that we are not aware of and which we are co creators of, but even then i still can't put my blind faith into something so abstract as a god, it's not tangible enough imo.

>>42687699
I'm not angry at all, your use of profanities is the only one showing anger, extrapolation still relies on past sensory experiences.

>The unknown is not nothing, monkey.
If it goes on to infinity it technically is, no matter what new wonders you discover you'll still be chasing without conclusion.

>The Supreme Person
Another way of saying the first cause of ancient greece, another abstract concept that the reader is just asked to put blind faith into because "he just is mkay"...

>>42687706
You're replying to the "nigger" as you called me btw.
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>>42687706
I agree with your comment about the few but human nature is also quite shitty on it's own (so shitty religions have tried to placate it for millenia), what is your theoretical utopia?
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>>42687723
No one said you were angry, black man.
Nice admission.
The profanity is a mark of mockery, not anger.
I mock you monkey brain, if you see anger, it's yours.
>If it goes on to infinity it technically is,
No, nigger. Nothing is not infinity.
>you'll still be chasing without conclusion.
So?
>Another way of saying the first cause of ancient greece, another abstract concept
No.
Your mistake as always comes from your shit skin.
The key here is PERSON.

And you ran like a bitch because you are a nigger mad at the answers I give.
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>>42687738
>No one said you were angry
You said i got pissed reading your answer moron. (which i didn't)

What does pissed mean to you?

>Nothing is not infinity.
You can't technically show nothing as it is no thing, the human mind often conflates them because both are abstract concepts that stretch beyond physical reality and daily human experience, boundlessness (infinity) versus total absence (nothing).

The nothing here of infinity is the no conclusion of existence per se, you say "So?" but when faced with the completion of nothing to do late game or some unfathomable horror that destroys us all you'll change your mind, until then it's a cosmic game of FAFO.

>The key here is PERSON.
So just another product of human imagination, like the other millions of deity personifications.

Your rhetoric is browner than mine and you still haven't unconditionally proved your whiteness so sybau.
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>>42687756
>You said i got pissed reading your answer moron. (
HOURS ago. So your still seething over that? Seems like you ARE, and you lied, then.
> the human mind often conflates them
You mean equates, nigger, and YOU might, but that is dumb and wrong.
Infinity is not nothing.
>So just another product of human imagination
No, darkie, people are not abstractions.
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>>42687723
>called me btw.
i ain't involved in your beef. much. also i don't use such terms its uncreative and impersonalized
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>>42687771
Indeed. Racism is a poor mind's realm. It's why I called the nigger's bluff and haven't let them escape trying to dismiss thought with accusations of race.
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>>42687736
small communities on open land, easy resources and energy. you can have your queer tribes and your more straight edge communities, but everyone gets along and travel is quick and easy.
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>>42687761
>HOURS ago
This reply wasn't that long ago >>42687699

>Seems like you ARE
No, i scrolled back to know where tf did you pull that out of your ass.

>You mean equates
No, conflates.

>people are not abstractions.
People are not real, bodies are just illusory egos, it's all the same light at it's core (e=mc2)

Infinity and nothingness are often viewed as two sides of the same coin, representing the ultimate extremes of existence. Philosophically and mathematically, one boundary leads into the other.
>picrel

>>42687773
You still haven't unconditionally proven your whiteness so you to are not in a place to talk, i refuse to give biometrics to glowies and it's funny how you haven't mentioned that at all, in that regard you kinda glow.

Your thoughts are just blind faith and human imagination which is partially racially charged as spiritual traditions are developed according to their people, in this case the Indian people who are notorious for their affection for dung, why would you pick that specific spirituality? I do not know, unless....

>>42687780
Everyone gets along until natural human greed kicks in, we know how that idea of utopia turned out in Europe.
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>>42687784
>scrolling to try and prove they aren't seething
Lol, dumb monkey.
>No, conflates
Then your sentence is even more retarded, nigger.
>People are not real, bodies are just illusory egos, it's all the same light at it's core
Illusory means temporary, not nonexistent.
And if it all light at its core, then it isn't abstract, it's emergent.
And only a nigger would call that human imagination.
>You still haven't unconditionally proven your whiteness
Just say yes if this is what you want.
Agree that when I do, it proves you are a dumb nigger.
Or don't, and run like the dumb nigger you already have proven you are.
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>>42687623
>>42687629
>>42687633
>BlackRock
>AAA companies
>shareholders and marketing
Since when did /x/ become /pol/?

Anyway, videogames are just simply a dead hobby. A bygone era if you will.
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>>42687827
More like /pol/ became /x/ for a brief time and it slightly opened their eyes.
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>>42687804
>Doesn't mention the biometric aspect.
Yeah you glow, and you still haven't unconditionally proved your whiteness to so you are not in a place to call anyone slurs.

Human imagination is both abstract and emergent. It is abstract in its ability to manipulate intangible concepts decoupled from immediate physical reality, and emergent because it arises from the complex, networked interactions of billions of neurons in the brain, producing mental phenomena that cannot be explained by studying single cells alone.

>>42687827
The BlackRock is Saturn's Cube, it is /x/.
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>>42687859
>scared that biometrics work on every inch of skin
>still repeating the glowie remark after I pointed out his thread and image sliding
>cant even say yes to me unconditionally showing
Dumb, scared nigger.
Running, running away.
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>>42687859
>Human imagination is both abstract and emergent.
Oh, forgot this retardation.
Imagination is not abstract, what it can conceive of might be.
But we werent saying that.
Your dumb nigger brain said people are abstract.
I know it's hard for you to think, but try to stay focused.
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>>42679415
Heaven has the best games because there's no retarded restrictions. And you have all the time to play it while doing other things.
>>
Have you noticed how literally everyone, including christians, instinctually sees heaven as a limitless place of boundless freedom? But then when you read the bible, you see it's in fact a limited confined sheepfold where you exist in endless servitude. I believe that our instinctual idea of heaven comes from deep subconscious memories of where our soul originally came from; i.e. base reality. In that sense, heaven would be a railroading trap to keep people trapped in this realm instead of returning to base reality.
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>>42688078
>yjk
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>>42688078
>literally everyone
No. The Heavens are limited and material. It's God's realm that is eternal and unbounded.
>when you read the bible
Why would anyone do that?
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>>42688103
>No. The Heavens are limited and material. It's God's realm that is eternal and unbounded.
That's pretty much what I said.
>Why would anyone do that?
Because like it or not abhramism is the current face of this realm's spirituality, and christian prophecy lays out pretty clearly kronos' plans to establish a "perfect" world government.
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>>42688121
>That's pretty much what I said.
You said they see heaven as limitless, but fine. We're in agreement.
> like it or not abhramism is the current face of this realm's spirituality
Most religion and society, maybe. Nothing to do with spirituality.
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>>42688127
>You said they see heaven as limitless, but fine.
Yes. I'm saying most people see heaven as a limitless place subconsciously, and that they're wrong about that. What exactly are you confused about with my post?
>Most religion and society, maybe. Nothing to do with spirituality.
Has everything to do with the spirituality of this world, which is a trap in the end.
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>>42688152
I disagree with "most people" and with you again confusing heaven with god's realm.
>spirituality of this world
No such thing. Spirituality is eternal. Not of any world.
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>>42687874
>biometrics work on every inch of skin
They do with AI now actually.

>I pointed out his thread and image sliding
You could've unconditionally proved it yet you dragged on baiting me.

>cant even say yes to me unconditionally showing
Imposing mr beast yes challenges is not unconditional.

>People are Abstract
They are, also nice pilpul.
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>>42688159
>I disagree with "most people" and with you again confusing heaven with god's realm.
Do you have a reading comprehension problem?! holy shit dude. Read my original post again, we agree but you're acting like we don't for some reason
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>>42687784
>until natural human greed kicks in
yeah, i have to admit not sure there is a solution to that one
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>>42688172
Oh the nigger's back.
Still seething, still running scared.
Cant seem to catch up with the topic though.
They're just mad at my answers from before.
Or they are now. they wanted to make sure everyone knew they werent before.
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>>42688180
I already said we dont agree on the "most people" part, and I still dont think we agree on the conceptual, either.
Do you accept there is an infinite realm that is not heaven?
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>>42688411
>Do you accept there is an infinite realm that is not heaven?
Yes, I explicitly referred to it as base reality in my original post.
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>>42688172
He finally left out of laugh reaction images.
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>>42688874
Two and a half hours. Maybe.
Should post to spite before mods wake up and ban me.
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>>42688078
>when you read the bible, you see it's in fact a limited confined sheepfold where you exist in endless servitude.
We don't see that at all.
The Bible barely talks about heaven, really.
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>>42688874
>>42688916
Both of you are nigger-kike faggots and should shut the fuck up and dip the fuck out.
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>>42688916
let jason go.
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>>42681680
>I will say I have noticed if I pray for success in a video game I can feel his presence with me and success usually follows. I am always baffled that he actually cares to help out with something so small, but he does.

Or perhaps you are mistaking a self induced placebo effect (powered by your faith) that is unconsciously activating pathways in the brain that require effort to utilise for divine intervention.
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>>42679415
I heard that there's a certain kind of heaven where you get to play any video game against anyone you ever played with in real life.
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>>42690532
no, you absolutely did not
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>>42679595
this shit makes no sense, why would anyone choose life then?
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>>42690538
I did hear that. it was said all over /v/ long ago
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>>42679415
according to Christianity, when you go to heaven you join in a mass of other souls and all you do for all eternity is constantly sing about how great God is.
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>>42690363
Proven wrong.
Bet you're the gimmedat just mad you wasted hours of your life being proven a shit skin.
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>>42688874
Not really, i was asleep.

>>42690363
Already did but bro just had to continue for updoots and to win an anonymous online argument lmfao.

>>42691532
You didn't prove shit lmao, also i'm glad you're white, i wonder why you believe in Hinduism out of all religions though.
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>>42692160
Nigger
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>>42691532
White people don't care about izzat, saar.
And the fact that you care more about winning rather than being good person is why you are shit person and very reason why your next reincarnation will be even worse than i*dian, saar.
Uou should try to redeem your very bad karma, saar
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>>42692200
And I dont.
And I find calling out racists and especially nigger racists is being a good person. Makes sense you wouldnt understand.
It's funny that the only insult your mind can think of is still trying to call me Indian.



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