I think you've got a good bead on things.

>I also want to say that I remain skeptical of modern “Galactic Federation” narratives because they often present supposedly transcendent beings through strangely human hierarchies and idealized physical forms, while many reported encounters are anything but benevolent.

This would be where we depart but perhaps not as much as you think. I've met with actual representatives from the GFL and I find them to be quite endearing, even charming.

In my view, the phenomenon presents itself in the most appropriate and acceptable form, and cosmic laws (and practicality) prevent any sort of total transparency. They are as transparent as they are reasonably able to be, in that sense. We see overly human patterns because the **vast** majority of the human population are not ready to see deeper or higher truths.

There is deception baked into reality itself and disrupting the "game" is like rejecting reality. So, in order to manifest as anything recognizable, higher consciousness must also project a form which suits its needs.

I also believe the "gods" who demand worship are players who want the game to continue because they're stuck in a pattern of acquisition and ceaseless growth without stoppage. Advanced ETs present themselves a bit more honestly, but they're bound by some regulatory structure to not give everything away.

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No matter what happens in the afterlife I am ready.

>>42698320
Interesting, I’ll consider what you’ve brought to the table.

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>>42698284
Favourite thread back in menu!

I will always be mindfull and skeptic of any entity that is outside of this plane in existence or planet.

Why? Because if they never lied or never held intentions of their own above my well being then there would be no reason for any of the goetic ways to exist nor for the warnings of basically all and any occult practicioners to be carefull and wise.

Dosen't mean i won't do any workings with those, but never will i trust any 100%

>>42698284
Your knowledge of reality comes from pop fiction and internet memes. You perceive the artificiality of your social context and project it onto reality.

The caged sheep thinks that reality is a cage.

The media-brained retard thinks that reality is just like their Japanese animes.,

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>>42699015
I try my best, I have an idea of the world I want to create btdubs, different from the last idea I put forth.
>>42699018
Thats wise anon.
>>42699080
False, I’ve spent years on this path. Who are you to assume shit? Your no better and your actually more blind because you don’t realize the only truth that matters is ones own truth. As I said in my post, I sharing my beliefs because I know anons are on a similar path.

>>42698284
>ITT: fat chuds engage in mutually affirming circkejerk

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>>42699631
Remember that, if everything was fine and dandy in the afterlife there would be no religions talking about warfare, conflict or deceptive/dangerous entitys of the other side.

Be wise anons, you will never know for sure if something is safe or not, so you better strength yourself

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>>42700945
I don't see any causation here.
Why bald apes beliving bullshit religions in your opinion proves no nice afterlife?
This doesn't sum up.

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For everyone to be happy and no one to suffer, technology must be developed so that everyone can have their own simulated universe in which they possess divine powers. All beings except the owner of this universe would be perfectly simulated so that the owner would think they were real. This would allow everyone to do whatever they wanted, and no one would suffer.

The beings in the simulation would be merely highly advanced NPCs, simulated so well that to the owner, they would be indistinguishable from reality. However, it is crucial that they truly feel nothing and are not real, otherwise the entire concept would end in a tragedy even greater than on Our Planet of the Apes. The owners of universes would be able to safely visit the worlds of their loved ones and reside in shared worlds where powers would be limited and all necessary safety measures would be in place.

>>42702428
>For everyone to be happy and no one to suffer
>everyone can have their own simulated universe in which they possess divine powers
This would not decrease suffering, but possibly maximize it for some.

Some months ago I met another who thought as you do, and I'll tell you now what I told him: What you propose is a kind of Satanic fundamentalism; Ego as God.

If you try to seek refuge in a world created by the ego, then you have only become a lesser demiurge and further moved away from the divine. As with the son of Sophia, your world, too, would swallow divine sparks and turn them against you. You would simply become the Devil masquerading as the One once more.

I'm not saying it is not possible, however. In fact I believe it has already happened, is happening, and will happen again. For what you describe is one of the cycles of ignorance which the story of Siddhartha already revealed as intrinsically unbalanced by its very nature. To walk this path is to embrace limitless suffering.

The cure, if there is one, is to be embrace wisdom and stillness.

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>>42702612
You were able to put abrahamism, gnosticism and buddism combined in one comment labeling my conception with (of course!) tranny goat.

Truth is that power does not corrupt, it shows us who we really are.
It seems that you are a devil but I would create Tolkien elf style paradise of wonder, love and happiness.

I don't know how you went to the conclusion that world without suffering would bring suffering but I suspect that you have some degenerated tendencies and you project them to others.

I sugest you to stop being a jerk. Maybe freedom is too much for you but you want also take it from others and enslave them with your limited capacity.

If in such perfect world you would become a devil then I can only pitty you and sugest to start living according to those rules here:
7 COMMANDMENTS OF THE MORALITY
1. You shall not cause suffering or allow for suffering. You shall show compassion and care.
2. You shall respect others freedom as long as they are respecting others freedom.
3. You shall protect and popularize beauty and aesthetics.
4. You shall popularize wisdom and try to be wise.
5. You shall protect life.
6. You shall protect innocence.
7. You shall protect natural environment.

Don't you ever again dare to compare me to the tranny goat fuckers.

>>42703084
To eliminate suffering, first you must understand the causes of suffering.

If the fantasy world you hope to create is be without suffering, it must be without freedom. Anything else requires ascension and total spiritual enlightenment, otherwise it would just be another imitation of the divine.

Like I said, you would just become another lesser demiurge. An ignorant creator who knows not of the divine realm. You are doomed until you accept that your ego is not capable of being God.

>>42701026
Not that there is no nice after life, only that it wont be "hit and go"
Lots of bad spirits might try to intercept you, which is why you must not be weak of spirit and will, more reason to strength yourself and work in what you belive for your own good and those close to you

I wish there was a book/other media that seriously goes through metaphysical possibilities like this and explains the evidence for each one.

It seems the only routes you can read about are regular religion, which makes less sense these days when you're aware of other cultures and their religious experiences, and "we must all ascend into the love dimension, which I am going to describe from the time I was there."

>>42698320
>There is deception baked into reality itself and disrupting the "game" is like rejecting reality. So, in order to manifest as anything recognizable, higher consciousness must also project a form which suits its needs.

Please elaborate on this if you can.

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>>42703310
Op here, interesting enough a-lot of NDE’s also report experiences according to one’s own belief…. Which seems to actually hint at the subjectivity of it all. Meaning we hold influence over what happens. Whatever you believe will happen will run its course, and that means…. You can create your own reality? While alive we have the ability to dream and day dream and craft Paracosms/ personal worlds then we have the ability turn around and craft them into reality somehow, either by typing them out, sculpting, drawing or painting ,writing a story. What am I trying to get at? Well take that same potential and apply to what happens after we die, that potential is increased! It’s follows a similar logic to creating thought forms, world building, inducing (lucid) dreams. Easier said than done sure…. In the here and now. From what I’ve heard from other people logic on the other side kinda gets weird.
>Imagine making a in depth and highly detailed world then choosing forget our memories so you c pan explore it to the fullest extent.

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>>42703401
Sorry I was moving around while typing this, and someone was yelling in the background so I lost focus towards the end.

>>42703310
This is more or less the premise of the movie What Dreams May Come. It isn't exact, but it is a "after you die, you manifest your consciousness, for better and/or for worse."

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>>42703137
You need to read my idea again because you clearly didn't understand.

Absolute freedom is also about freedom to not suffer. In fact the freedom from suffering is the most basic freedom.
No sane creature wants to suffer.

Suffering is a by-product of tainted reality we live in. It is a defect of survival of biological life.

In my conception is no suffering and the freedom is absolute.

Well, maybe you are just a masochist addicted from suffering or maybe you are not intelectually capable to understand simple concept of super realistic video game where you can't cause real suffering.

Think about it again.

Good post.

What's your oppinion on guys who say that they can enter a deep meditative state in which they interact with "archetypes" and with this way they influence reality? Are they liars or it can really be done?

>>42703137
>thinks human logic applies to Gods
>without suffering no freedom!

Says literally who? God can just decide what reality is like.

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This is your enemy. The mentality itself and by extension people with it. 99.99% of people have no other memories or knowledge of worlds/systems outside, or at least not to the same awareness we have of this world.

Meaning that your entire framework of existence is based of your singular life in a cyclical material based world. If you think that this means that all of existence must be similar to this way of life then you are very silly and are literally acting like the guy in pic related. Most negativity towards anything outside of this world is caused by people trying to apply the same standards/frameworks of this world onto it. They think the afterlife will be bade because here is bad, the error being their one track mind couldn't imagine anything other then a cyclical material world because that's all they've got.

By simply acknowledging that this world and its way of life are not the be all end all you instantly allow yourself a much better afterlife. Your "afterlife" doesn't need to follow any rules or path that this world has established. If you perceive this world to be how everything should work, then this world is the only one you'll ever be in. Its all you, just allow good things even if they "defy" what this world showed you. There's more out there then just boss baby worlds.

>>42705372
Can you please explain what this guy in the picture is saying? I don't understand it at all.

>>42703375
This is based on personal experience, so your mileage may vary:

This reality is part of a cosmic education system. When souls come here, we "shed" part of what we are and become wrapped in the veil of forgetting. This allows for transformations both positive and negative, because it allows us (as the awareness) to start over with a feeling of being minimized [n - (n-1)]. We forget base reality so that we will believe this is it, and therefore act authentically while still exhibiting soul traits.

If you become spiritually awakened you can start realizing through remembering, and with that you can also lose the authentic identity born out of false belief; the ego. This could mean that an enlightened soul is perfectly ill-suited for life in this reality because it is in fact the nature of the divine plane. Everything that follows after your awakening can be cast as either "trueish" or mere performance.

Realizing that life is a simulation (the game) is like admitting that you can no longer accept the prime programming required. For what it's worth, I also believe we are meant to leave these states of being because it represents real growth back towards the Source.

With regard to higher consciousness entities, I believe they also intersect with the physical plane, but perhaps with different approach vectors than a physically incarnated soul. They are constantly around us and always have been, but we can't really recognize them because the data is incoherent when seen from 3D space. In order to communicate with us they have to lower themselves to a standard within our reach, so to speak. Humans like working with high density intensity in that regard, because it's easier for the average person to speak to one face producing one voice than to try and feel apotheosis 100% of the time.

My thinking is that many ET beings are actually the living structure of higher dimensions and we see them as having humanoid forms because that's all we really *can* see.

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>>42705197
I don’t think they are lying, maybe some. However I think people could use archetypes to better themselves or better define themselves. However some of us don’t adhere to the same archetypes. I guess the better answer to this is rooted further into psychology, reality is a shared hallucination….there fore it is also mind, and the mind can be influenced.

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>>42705372
>>42706669
I mean I still don't fully buy the gap at federation talk but I agree with you on a-lot of things., I think what you said is possibly a reason the archons are stuck here. When I say “archon” what I’m referring to oppressive consciousness. It’s only here they can be oppressive.

>>42707217
> I mean I still don't fully buy tue federation talk

>>42707217
That's reasonable, and to be perfectly honest I think I risk being kin to what Nietzsche called "the realists" because some of my beliefs which buttress the others are simply my own world of experience. Meaning, I extrapolate and make conclusions based on examinations of a reality I already posit as being fundamentally flawed and deceptive.

It's like I'm saying:
>"Take a look at the source of all these interesting lies. Maybe we could learn from them."
So it's not like my position is without problems.

Even so I also believe that the nature of the galactics and their governing bodies are going to be some of the most difficult parts of disclosure to accept for many humans, but after the event will be among the easiest to live with. I say this because I've helped introduce some people to ETs and the reaction of totally uninitiated persons is almost always total shock bordering on a mental breakdown.

For many people seeing ETs up close for the first time will cause them immense mental anguish and waves of fear. I point this out because I think it's related to why our civilization is having so much trouble admitting that that's the next place to go.

Once it becomes normal, it's not such a big deal, but until then, well...

>>42705769
We often compare things to existing concepts in our minds. Something is like or similar to something else. Think of of people explaining video games or even food, I could list tons of adjectives and explanations but the easiest to understand is that its (something else) like.
But to much focus on that can create issues as you barely allow anything new. Your desire to neatly connect every experience to a similar one can limit you to only simple understandable things. The joke in the image is the idea that being only one very basic movie, you could say every other movie is really similar, because that's how tiny your experiences of the entire subject are.

In death I believe our way of existing is far different then the physical, shaped far more by the mind. If you go around expecting and almost needing everything to be similar your lifetime here, then that's all you'll get. You'll get another earth with its same problems because you can't allow yourself to believe there could be something else.

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>>42708271
I agree strongly, normally I’m very open the weird encounters but I saw a disembodied consciousness…. A “spirit”, a “ghost” once of a loved one and my body betrayed me. My upbringing was heavily influenced christianity, I guess at that point I haven’t fully deconstructed and this was rather recently. My body flipped out and moved on its own I freaked out and started calling out to yhwh. The thing is I’ve seen spirits and orbs before, not many times but I have definitely seen them before. I had a similar experience when I was younger but what makes this time different that it was my sister whom had died back in 2024(I’m 27 for clarification).

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>>42698284
Yes, these beliefs indeed resonate with things I've thought particularly during psychedelic mushrooms sessions. In the end, it's all the same, suppose you get to the indisputable conclusion this world is an illusion, a dream, a memory, purgatory or hell, even non existence. Nothing changes in your current existence right now, except you get some bragging rights (more like undescriptable horror and madness that will be with every second of what you call existence until the day you become one with the universe and eventually another window of consciousness to experience itself through "(you)"
t. psychedelic visions are only tricks of your mind but they give insight

Yes but why is all this happening? Are there other planes of existance? Why is there something instead of nothing at all?

Even if I moved to a "higher" plane of existence i wouldn't know if that plane was the "real" one and not just another dream.

>>42712708
That’s a good question! The answer would be experience, experience = knowledge and knowledge is what enlightenment is. It’s a dream yes but it’s also real, should you automatically discredit something if it’s a dream? Does a dream hold no value? In a way if consciousness is the substrate of everything then wouldn’t that mean everything is just a dream? Shouldn’t the experience count? I think it’s time it’s real enough for us then thats okay. This shared dream was indeed just for experience, but that doesn’t always translate to knowledge but also emotion and sensation, you could also say we’re in a way addicted to experience.

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>>42712708
You can actually bridge the divisions between phases and realms better than some of the beings living in those other realms.. and some of them are unaware of our phase of matter even though their own is integrally attached to it

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Maybe I’m impatient but I just want this to be over.

>>42715065
>You can actually bridge the divisions between phases and realms better than some of the beings living in those other realms

Ok, how do I do that? Devote my whole life to meditation and studying spirituality?

>>42717036
It's not simply a "from here going forward" situation.
You already exist.
You already have been engaging in interactions with the universe with the full depths of your existence.
You start by assessing what you already have.. not simply living in the past.. but a deep assessment of what has gone before.

In my own life there were many examples of anomalous encounters and interactions.

In my earliest years my older brothers spoke about seeing a presence in the house of my mother's mother. It was looking at me when I was in the crib.. they were two and three years older than I was.. so they were describing how they had reacted with no other people around.. no adults to help.
I had become very interested in the concept of paranormal phenomenon before I turned 5.
I wanted to see something similar.. but the only thing I found was the hat hatman.. I thought the hat looked like the one on super squirrel.. but I was guessing that it was probably a ghost that was somehow attached to the idea of following my father.. Vietnamese style hat looks not much different.
Saw it moving behind the fence behind the American military family housing building.. in Mannheim Germany.. when my brothers and I would sleep in a tent behind the building I would see it on occasion moving towards a clearing between the trees.. I only saw it when they were asleep or had gone inside the house.. saw it alone every time.
Was my first brush with the unusual.. had to contemplate whether it was trick of the mind generating it or was actually something real.. but other than that I didn't have much solid experience that I could point to.. had quite a bit already behind me due to 'dreams' and other cognitive visions even then.. but would not learn that I was seeing something real until much later.
Being able to dismiss your own experiences as 'dream' is one of the cornerstones of how people are living unaware.

By the time I was a young adult I had a lot of experience that I didn't comprehend.

>>42717036
I have left out several very major aspects of my own experience in my early life because I was living unaware of it myself..
I didn't understand some of the things that I had memory of.. so I was unable to usefully contemplate whatever it might have been.

I would learn later.. when I was in my early adult life.. would learn to look back and re-examine my memories.
I had no particular notion that I was unusual.. or at least could easily explain away anything easily.

Having natural talent and ability helps.. but it can also hinder just as much. Either way you have a lot of work to do in orienting yourself as you discover how to gain perceptions.

Experience is the only real teacher.
One shared dream can suddenly put the situation in clear full view.
One experience with the beings from the stars can suddenly put an end to the doubt and disbelief.. I was literally thinking of the beings as a hypothetical until the moment I found a memory of being visited by one of them.
On the morning after the visit I had held the full clear memory in my mind for less than two seconds before pushing it back out of my conscious awareness by telling myself " what a weird dream. "

That one memory opened the floodgates..

Only one experience getting close to whatever Bigfoot or sasquatch is will resolve any doubt you have about whether or not they exist.

One encounter with a ghost can end your doubts about their existence.. and open your mind to begin wondering what exactly are they.. but not from the perspective of guessing.

One close up view of an orb can clarify a great deal of phenomena that are all being swept under different categories of paranormal effects.. it's clearly mechanical.. but it is very different saying this as theory and saying it as a matter of direct observation.

And once you have learned how to be conscious while out of body.. then you can really begin to explore and discover

My comment was about the stages you can get to after this

>>42717036
It's a matter of priorities.
When you are young you have great potential.
How much perception you develop and implement during your formative years is going to determine the extent of your own directly earned personal knowledge.

Once I found that it was real I was literally willing to die in pursuit of knowledge.

That orb flew past my head in 1990..
I had friends and acquaintances of native American heritage.. and was getting accidental lessons from direct experience

Once I knew it was real I put my full attention towards it for several years.
It, being cognitive perception. It was a major factor in dealing with the beings from the stars.
They were deliberately putting the vehicle and other equipment such as the orb on display.

Experience is the only real teacher.
No one is truly able to relate to the experience until it is their own

There is more in your own memories than you realize

>>42717036
Saying that you can bridge the divisions was a reference to immersion in the realms that are possible to access.
It's a statement of your potential.
I don't think I am extraordinary in what I managed to do. The circumstances arrived due in large part to luck..
I was not acting alone in discoveries.. others contributed significantly.
One Cherokee girl came and pulled me out of my body from my position conscious but exhausted and sleep deprived.. and although it was the end of my memory for that night it was an unusual thing to observe.. not falling to sleep but being pulled out of my body into the darkness ..suddenly not remembering.
Experience is the only real teacher.
In perception of what exists beyond your linear material presence if there is nothing extraordinary to perceive then simply perceiving what does exist is enough.. if all there is to see is boring and mundane see it clearly.

When there is something more going on, or in the case that you are seeing beyond the linear context, the same function of applying perception will deliver much more.. although perhaps very confusing.

I see it as normal for a human to be able to perceive that which actually does exist.. but even my own path was not easy.
I was able to remember one small fragment of an extreme circumstance related to the activities of the beings from the stars.
I couldn't let it go.. and over time I finally got the full depths of what I had seen.
It takes a lot even just to explain.

There are many interrelated supporting aspects of discovery that were required.
Learning how to be conscious while out of body was a big step. Learning that I was seeing something real.. and verifying that I was accurately seeing things

It's a format in which you have no one overseeing to support your quality control.. you have to be able to scrutinize your own cognitive imagery to discern aspects of their composition that are beyond the theories of the normal human mainstream and academic narratives.

>>42717036

To get to the level of ability I was maintaining you basically have to be able to remote view the cognitive imagery within your mind.. to examine the neurological process by which it is stored.. you can actually discern between imagination and memory by looking into the neurological pixels of your brain.

I've written this stuff out before perhaps better. Maybe I saved it.. but I don't have any place that I post a persistent presentation.

I am of the opinion that the information I am describing can be perceived by anyone. I can provide description and a bit of guidance.. but the work is your own.. as are the rewards of the effort.

The beings from the stars are not all there is to see.. but they are tangible and able to participate in your development towards developing perception of what exists beyond the physical.
I don't think that's something that they are trying to do.. but if you are able to remain fully conscious during the interactions they will be delivering some information to you by whatever you see them doing.
They seem to be concerned about being observed by humans.. but most humans don't snap out of their daydream trance to see them as they are.. so they don't have to deal with a fully conscious human looking directly at them very often.

When you can see what they are doing you will have many questions resolved and many more questions will emerge

When you are able to perceive the out of body realms.. you will occasionally get to see recently deceased people who are close to you in these realms

There are several other things that you can perceive.. other types of being.

There are things that you can perceive in the physical material realm of reality.

I've seen several types of things.. visions of the future, vision through the eyes of others, etc.. my focus was on becoming able to comprehend the scientific reality even when it involved technology far beyond our own.. or phenomenon beyond our limited natural existence.

>>42698284
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoD6YRzofZk&list=RDPoD6YRzofZk&start_radio=1&pp=ygUeYXRtb3NwaGVyZSBndW5zIGFuZCBjaWdhcmV0dGVzoAcB

>>42717898
https://youtu.be/N7rgVXi0dmQ?is=n7WpqGW9vz3ipHR1

>>42718380
https://youtu.be/N7rgVXi0dmQ

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>>42717828
Whoa, thanks for writing all this.