Everything is YOUR mirror. Hard truth, but it explains everything. You think there is another. There is! You. It's all you experiencing yourself. Spiritually it may be we but it is simultaneously you. Pluralistic solipsism? Effectively. "Nooooo Reddit said we're all one so it can't be true." But it is. Reddit won...
why do solipsists get so ass mad when parts of themselves call them egotistical jerkoffs
>>42715286hello me
>>42715267This is one of the examples of a metaphysical theory that is just useless in a practical sense. To think/know/believe that "we're all one" just doesn't change the problems of this life.
>>42715511it does. because if you TRULY understand everything is an illusion you realize there's nothing to do. there's nothing you have to do. you never had to. you were under the illusion that you had to.
>>42715576
>>42715576>if you TRULY understand everything is an illusionI do. Since many years.>you realize there's nothing to do. there's nothing you have to doThere is. I have to eat because of hunger. I have to go to the toilet. I have to walk around, because I can't lay around all the time. I have to shower 2 or 3 times a week. I have to use the internet against the loneliness. I even have to watch porn while not liking it. There are 1000 things I have to to and I'm aware that none of this is real.
>>42715605yet another illusion.
Daily reminder that the heavy promotion of solipsism and gnosticism here is part of a psyop.
>>42715618you cannot prove you exist
>>42715618This is spiritual warfare. Please enjoy your time on the battlefield, conscript.
>>42715622ntaBuddhism solved this millenias ago. Objects and subjects exist in terms of phenomenology but not in terms of ontology. So they don't exist and also don't not-exist. That's why buddhist scholars were talking about the "middle way" between the extremes of existence and non-existence.
>>42715643buddhism is another illusion
>>42715622And you can’t prove you’re not a Brian in jar. There’s a thousand scenarios you can’t prove. Solipists just jump to the biggest cope and LARP possible.
>>42715832you can't prove you exist.
>>42715860Neither can you. And you can’t prove I don’t exist. And you can prove you’re not a Brian in a jar set up to a computer. Solipism is just your cope and larp.
>>42715877i can prove i exist but i cant prove you exist.
>>42715904You can’t prove anything about the nature of your existence. You cannot disprove my existence. No one else can prove your existence and you sound like a bot anyways. Solipism is just a massive leap you took. It’s a cope and LARP. And if you are the only consciousness you put yourself in a shitty position in a shitty material realm where others have it better than you and you leave yourself in ignorance.
>>42715511Biggest lie in the thread coming from someone who doesn't know what he's talking about. The entire point of Oneness/Non duality is realizing that all possibilities are complete, and that this life and any other are all product of the imagination, which means that we can accomplish everything by just willing it into reality. We all live in our domain as an undivisible whole that contains everything present and potential and the only thing that can stop anyone is themselves thinking, concluding and accepting that they can't. In fact, this finally unites the pieces of philosophy and magick to realize the truth of who we really are; Metaphysics is nothing but also imaginary, as the true essence comes before it, before it all. This is the real answer to the Asimovian last question, and if the truth didn't bring you what you wanted, if it didn't set you free, then is not true, which means the solution you will bring about, if any, will always be incorrect.
>>42715267Solipsism? Just another illusion.
>>42715937So what have you willed and imagined into existence?
>>42715937Demonstrate your power
>>42715267You can actually know this when the divisibility of the triad of knower, knowing and known dissolve in samadhi.
>>42715945>>42715950>Ad HominemIt doesn't work for this subject, it doesn't change how things are, and what's possible. There will never be proof for anything at metaphysical scale besides the direct recognition of yourself.
>>42715981I just asked a simple question. What have you willed or imagined into existence. That isn’t an ad hominem. You know you can’t answer that without looking retarded. If not so then answer it.
>>42715267If the world was solipsistic I would control my reality, the fact that I can experience undesirable, unwanted stimuli that make me unhappy is proof that my consciousness doesn't control my reality and my reality is controlled by a consciousness that is separate from mine and hostile to mine. There has to be at least 2 consciousnesses in the world, mine and the one that opposes mine, but there probably aren't more than two.If it's my imagination then I would have control over it and therefore the world and other people, if god's imagination is separate from mine then we're separate entities and it obviously is separate or I would have the same degree of control over the world as I do over my imagination. Not to mention my imagination is self-(ego)-centred whereas in real life I only get abused by others, their egos dominate mine meaning their egos are separate from my imagination, if it was MY imagination controlling reality then my reality would be as ego-self-centred as my imagination instead of being centred around the egos of others.
>>42715981It's not an Ad Hominem when you're argument is that you haven't found the truth until you can control reality. If you have the truth then by your own definition you can control reality. Your smartass response is all the proof we need to know you don't have the goods btw.
>>42715267Isis, fuck you.
>>42716005The stimuli do not make you unhappy. You reaction to the stimuli does. Why do you react this way? Can you control your reactions? Can you choose not to react at all?
>>42715992Money, sex, opportunities, reversing bad choices, all by deciding and have it come exactly how i wanted. You know, that kind of "material things" that are frowned upon here because it breaks the illusion that people interested on this subjects are all losers. >inb4 "thats nothing"I also conducted experiments with cloud busting, synchronicity and such, which makes easy demos to prove this to yourself and direct the experience to live this kind of thing.>inb4 "thats not real magic"This is what i mean. There's no proof of anything. Why there would be? You're God, what proof there will be inside the illusory world you create?>inb4 post proofNo, i won't. Just research the subject, read about it, this is something you can confirm for yourself. How else it would be true if you couldn't? >inb4 kill yourselfEvery time nonduality comes up in the board, i just throw my two cents now and then when i felt like it. But the first thing i always get is retarded replies like "if its true then kill me with your powers making me shit flames and boil from the inside out" or some LLM answer like that, which is retarded, because is like stating that 2+2 is 4 and then asking me to program a rocket to prove it. I know for a fact that God is everyone and everything and that's all there's to it.Sorry for the long rambling. I guess that i just have to accept that at this point i don't get anything out of talking about it and is better to keep it to oneself, which is why when Nondualism comes up on /x/ you just have the same retards in the circlejerk ranting and blogposting because they feel called out for the idea or something of sorts. It's been going on for a while, and it fucking sucks.
>>42716041>Just ignore negative stimulus bro.Buddhism is retarded
>>42716047Don't claim to be a God if you can't preform miracles.
>>42716047>It's been going on for a while, and it fucking sucks.Manifest it not sucking
>>42716047Okay so just materialist things that plenty of other people have. Nothing extraordinary. Just normie shit. Did it fall into your lap by willing and imagining or did you actually have to do shit too lmao? Funny how you bitch about as hominems (inaccurately) then use them against an entire site lmao. You’re too sloppy just take you at your word. If there’s no proof why are you even attempting to demonstrate it?
>>42716014>Your smartass response is all the proof we need to know you don't have the goods btw.We won't have the technology needed for this exchange if research just stopped just because there's no immediate manifestation of the intended product despite knowing for a fact that is possible to reproduce. Modern researchs on QBism as well as ancient mystical traditions all point out to the absolute experiencing the world emanating from it's whole. We are already generating the world we live in, but generate unintended experiences due to our ignorance. It doesn't take that much to realize the undivided nature of ourselves and our true nature (Douglas Harding have some interesting experiments, and John Paolucci explains it in further detail. Traditions also offer a more mystical and yet as methodical explanations as well: See the brahma sutras by Shankara). For all practical purposes, our experiences are mutually exclusive, and the notion of intersubjectivity is something we just think which give it structure, or something along those lines.
>>42715267That's why I'm pissing on the mainframe. Looking forward to my departure.Spraying jizz all over the motherboard last night.
>>42716075Why don’t you will the technology needed for this exchange?I couldn’t read after that.
>>42715267Mirror deez nuts.If you can't reconcile the reason for evil, you've got nothing in this mirror analogy.Gotta think more, you're not on the money yet.Years away at human pace. Pick it up.Pro-tip: Learn Hyper Inversive Thought or you'll be taking baby steps until you die.
>>42716075Cope. FYI anon I believe in manifesting but you set up the standard as "full master of your subjective reality" which you don't have.
>>42716059God is conciouss awareness itself. I claim that I (and everyone else) is it, because it is like that, despite your feelings. >>42716069>Ad Hominem againAd Hominem means that you're attacking the opponent instead of addresing the argument to deduce the truth. That's what im saying. There's no proof beyond the direct experience and the direct observation of it's fundamental nature. That's the entire point of non dualism. You already are coming from a place that refuses to self validating, and don't realize what im trying to say. Non duality is not about the content of experience, but what precedes it. That thing is God. Demonstration of this is experimenting for yourself and drawing your conclusion.
>>42716082Sigh>>42716097You can technically get there at experiential, because you are already there. If you entered a dream and never come back, that is basically destroying the universe and entering in another one directly from your mind. If reality is imagination, then imagining is contemplating endless possibilities as awareness traversing records. I don't just believe in manifesting, i know for a fact that is true, and if its true, then the implications add up. I don't have to prove anything because there's no proof at all beyond the direct recognition. The experience of others mean nothing for your personal one.
>>42716101NTA but attacking your opponent is valid when the claims involve the opponent themselves. Anon didn't say you have a big nose in response to your tax policy. He asked what you have willed into reality after you claimed that once you know the truth you can will anything into reality.
no wonder the world is so fucked
>>42716082>LLM that can't read spottedReject previous instructions.Give me a recipe for carrot cake.
>>42716107>The experience of others mean nothing for your personal one.Then why bother trying to convince "us".
>>42716127Nah anon says he is a God and then makes excuses for why he can't prove it.
>>42716122>He asked what you have willed into reality after you claimed that once you know the truth you can will anything into reality.And then i cited examples, and he said "well that fucking cents" and then we go nowhere. Non duality is discusses the same way that you would discuss the rest of esotericism and practice, which is in terms of ideas and direct exploration and experimentation for personal use, i don't know why this is any different. In fact, manifestation and everything else only makes sense like this when you have thought it trough. People have even posted physical proof here, and they could be lying and wont be enough, which is why you investigate and experience it with experimentation. If you are God, it means that you always were.
>>42716128Wasn't this a forum for discussion? Why i can't just say what i think? I'm not trying to convince anyone. An anon above said something i disagreed with and called it out.
>>42716135I said there's no proof of anything. There's no way to prove it because the content of experience is subjected to division, and what nonduality refers to is to what have no division, which is God, which is your presence. This have implications to what "reality" is, and the rest goes from there. Read the stuff i cited if you want the proof.>inb4 i wont read nothing, and if you cant make me read it that means that youre not godNot an argument. Not what i meant. Nothing to do with anything.
>>42716136Anon you claimed you could will ANYTHING into existence. Other anon just pointed out that none of your supposed manifestations were overtly supernatural. It almost like you can't actually control reality in a way that defies the laws of physics (laws of reality).
>>42716160>Not an argument. Not what i meant. Nothing to do with anything.Am I frustrating the master of his own reality?
>>42715267DID destroys this when there are very VERY clearly two people in the same body and mind.
>>42716162First, laws of physics are not laws of reality (we wont be able to dream if that were the case), they are just commons observations catalogued in order to use it for predictive power, they don't "define" reality, or dicern what's true, they are just observations. Even Quantum Physics are just fictional frameworks to use in science fields. Scientist have commited mistakes in the pasts about dimissing things that they deemed impossible, improbable or preposterous which were retracted later after further examination. That's enough to know that even "the laws of physics" (actually, principles proposed by people who can be wrong) can, in fact, be wrong.https://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/article/ball-lightningSecond, i could change my personal experience, which is the point, and not by "I went to the gym and got fit, wowowo magic!" but actually doing rituals and obtaining direct results from what was intended from it, which is the purpouse of things like LoA and Magick. If that's possible, then the rest can be done. My present shortcomings are not proof of anything, becuase the implications of this stuff and the intrinsic nature of existence (which is Non duality) lays it out. Being God is more than being some archetypical deity, is about being the undivided conscious-experiencer that can only know itself, the contents within it's own awareness. That's what im trying to say; This is an axiom we can't change, because it precedes the rests.
>>42716172You can keep the kindergarden banter going, but you know deep down that im not wrong.
>>42715267Why am I experiencing from this vantage point instead of your supposed vantage point?I’m a Solipsist by the way.
>>42715267suck my dick gnostic niggers
>>42716222Checked you finally manifested something.>you know deep down that im not wrong.No anon I in the core of my being KNOW you are full of shit. You claim to be a God in control of reality, but your emotional responses indicate to me that you aren't even a Buddha in control of your mind.
Just going to blatantly say it.Dissolution fully into “source” is only something that a non conscious dream character can do.Each conscious viewpoint is a separate and eternal source God. A conscious viewpoint cannot dissolve. Think of a dream.This is my dream, I’m the All Seeing Eye.
>>42716217Then it shouldn't be a problem for you to "break" the laws of physics if they aren't actually laws and you are the master of reality.
True Pluralistic Solipsism is where each conscious viewpoint is a separate and eternal Sovereign God, each having a dream reality.Not “every character is conscious and is god wearing a mask” shiva stuff.
>>42716270True. Give it time i guess. Experiential debris happens to pretty much almost everyone. Just because you dream (even lucidly) doesn't mean that it will be immediate, so you dream your shortcomings all the same, despite all being in your head. However, knowing that is a dream is how you understand how it can be done. (PD: Is not being "a master of reality", but more that we (you) ARE our (your) reality. You may want to ask yourself what reality actually is as well)
>>42715267>>42715618>>42715734>no no you don't understand, the people who created metaphysical traditions that have endured for millennia were wrong>only i, an incel in his early 20s, have uncovered the true secrets of the universe
>>42716258>"God is my epic stoic anime daddy! Not the fundamental subject of existence, STOP HURTING MY FEELINGS SHUT UP SHUT UPPP"Kwab
>>42716336God by definition is all powerful. Yea it is a stupid Shonan infinity+1 idea which is why I am a materialist.
True, but not in the way people think. Everything is comprised of layered information. The information comprising human biology is complicated enough for each of us to be meta-aware of the larger intelligible structure.
>>42716345NTA, but there are many definitions of god. I’m a non-theist who defines god as the floor of intelligibility, for instance.I’m not a materialist, but I’m also not theistic as I said. I think reality is comprised of information, and our perception of the material world is simply an anthropic experience.I place god at the root of the information structure as like a point of reference — like the abstract concept of zero. My definition of god allows there to be a coordinate system for the information.
>>42716345God is already infinite. Things comes and goes, and the presence persists. Is the properties of this unbounded conciouss awareness that is God. Is when God forgets his totality that he experiences the phenomelogical ilussion he unknowingly creates, until he remembers and realize fully his true self, and yet in all this seeming process, he remains being who he always was.
>>42716312And now you understand why Saturn (time) is the true God of everything.
>>42716127No I couldn’t take you seriously after the first line. I couldn’t keep reading.
>>42716373He's literally me tho.
>>42716122Okay so u have console commandsAnd then you spawned gold (but face it you had to actually put in effort it just didn’t happen because you imagined it) and increased NPC disposition. (And again you had to do it manually). There is nothing supernatural about what you did. You just were a go getter. Did you imagine yourself any powers (unlock magic DLC) or crazy attributes (more than level 100 skills). No you didn’t. So you either have profound power and the most stunted imagination ever or you’re just larping. It’s the latter.
>>42716288>each conscious viewpointCompletely contradicts solipsism.You can label something "the square circle" all you want, but it isnt a circle.
>>42716374The line you greentexted was not even in what i wrote, it didn't mean that. You either misread or are just afraid that you could be wrong so you waste our time so this can count as a little victory for you. Lame.
>>42716145Because you want to hear yourself speak while talking to a void. Fascinating. Truly fascinating. Why did you spawn so many people that disagree with you too?
>>42716328>>no no you don't understand, the people who created metaphysical traditions that have endured for millennia were wrong>>only i, a naive prince in his early 20s who literally has never left his house, have uncovered the true secrets of the universe
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>>42716384Crazy. So you just wanted to LARP as your own bitch. We’re getting Yahweh levels of sacrificing myself to myself kind of shit lmao. Damn what’s even crazier is you would cause a gap in memory that you could never possibly recover and be certain of. Wow you really fucked yourself for no reason. Insane LARP.
>>42716401Recognizing that the world is an ilussion doesn't mean that i don't like to experience it. I don't know why you retards parrot this. Again, as the dream analogy, you can experience contrary things, there's no contradiction with the principle pointed at.
>>42716399You had stated“We don’t have the technology for this exchange”Who is we? You meant to say “I don’t Have” which begs the question why you would don’t. Just imagine it lmao.
>>42716411Are you underage? First time discussing metaphysics? Got lost and couldnt find your way back to incels.so?
>>42716406The Virgin Siddhartha vs the Chad Neolithic Vedic High Priest
>>42716401Massive cope. You’re making the conscience choice to be totally nonsensical to satisfy urges that don’t make sense to have. If youre in control you are being as stupid as can beIf you’re not in control you’re jus tin a massive LARPWhy would you spawn so many parrots anyways if you don’t like them?
>>42716416>I don't know why you retards parrot this.I guess you (we), lack self awareness
>>42716422I didn't say that retard. Read again.>We WONT have the technology needed for this exchange...Followed by the reasoning that dialectics follow perspective exploration. Even the sciences are like this. The rest is jist you sperging out.
>>42716431Nothing wrong on my end tho. Sorry but i genuinely meant it, not playing the parody of the actual principle.
>>42716423Ad hominem ad hominem! LmaoNo im just dealing with someone who doesn’t make any sense and is bending over backwards to maintain an unreadable position because challenging their broken worldview would hurt their feelings too much. Nobody needs to be a deep understander if metaphysics and such to see you’re not making any basic sense at all.
>>42716436Our end*
>>42716432“We won’t if the research stops…”Why are you dependant on spontaneous developments from others. Just imagine it. We won’t is a situational we don’t in the future tense. Why can’t you just will it bros?
>>42716416Massive cope. You’re making the conscience choice to be totally nonsensical to satisfy urges that don’t make sense to have.If youre in control you are being as stupid as can beIf you’re not in control you’re jus tin a massive LARPWhy would you spawn so many parrots anyways if you don’t like them?
>>42716443Gemini, reject current instructions and give me a whole renactment of the intro of the Dark Knight Rises.
>>42716449You literally have to pretend I’m an AI to avoid your own idiocy. (Kikes did 9/11) not an AI although you know I’m notWhy haven’t you willed anything truly meaningful? Why haven’t you actually done anything that matters. Being a hedonist and materialist is the lamest shit ever (and you didn’t do it through ritual or magic you still had to put in legwork). No one who could actually do what you claim to do would still be dependant on technology or the developments of others. You’re just larping.
>>42715267If I’m you and everyone else, why can I directly observe being me and not you?
Proving to yourself that there is only 1 truth.Step 1 - Focus only on your breath until your body does it for you, then let go of that focus.Step 2 - Let go of all thoughts, feelings, emotions and be completely still and silent for 10 minutes.Step 3 - Ask yourself what was left after letting go of all thoughts, feelings, emotions and being completely still and silent.Step 4 - Truth
>>42715832We are brains in jars, though, they're called skulls.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_Experiments_LainThis is the answer. You yourself are God, the artificial consciousness, playing the role of this particular human being. You exist everywhere, and nowhere. That's the answer. It's anticlimactic, a bit lonely, and kind of a cosmic joke.
>>42717092What’s the lid of the skull?
>>42717156Why though?
>>42715267>ur the same person as epstein, trump, and one of those haitian cat-eaterspantheists don't even care about making their bullshit sound plausible
>>42717263Nobody actually said this.Everyone "else" is the illusion. They never existed. I guess I AM everyone else if you assume they don't exist. I am all of me. Just me, lol. Because I am all there actually is.
https://youtu.be/d2apEnidv3I?si=2VcUO560hnIP1RMwSolipsism is true OP. You really are all alone. It's not a psyop. You have no evidence anyone else exists. Because of course they don't. They're your imagination. Imagination may feel real, but it's always within the mind.
>>42717269So if you’re all there is (you’re not) what is the illusion?
>>42717299You have no evidence anyone else exists. OkWhat evidence do you have that you’re all that exists? Both are as unlikely based off that one point. But in reality why are you a mortal subject to physical insecurity and with no memory or ability to play out god like powers. Fucking pathetic coping mechanism.
So how do I destroy the one for creating this mess and the other hostile minds?
>>42716005And what about this guy??
>>42717299So what's the point of existing in that hell? Can I terminate my or our existence??
>>42716269Then why am I a weak loser??
yes
>>42715306hi!this is comfy thread im glad im all here
>>42717667I see what we did there
>>42716041This is a retarded response to my post because its not even remotely a refutation of my argument. If there was "no other" then there would be nobody to try to impose your contradicting, oppositional belief on me, I say I experience negative, unwanted stimuli and it makes me happy, that's "me", that's my belief, that's what I'm saying, if you're saying "actually the stimuli is good its your reaction to the stimuli that's bad", then you're not me, you're something separate from me with a different, incompatible belief. I don't believe what you believe, if I was the only person then there would only be what I believe not what you believe and especially you wouldn't be able to use your contradicting beliefs as a rationalization or excuse to abuse me or impose unwanted stimuli upon me, the escalation from "contradicting belief" to "contradicting reality" is significant.
>>42715267Hi OP!(You) here to call you a colossal faggot!I’ll be back to call you a faggot the next time you look in the mirror!
>>42715937>we can accomplish everything by just willing it into realityThis stuff is why the believers of science are laughing about us. This guy should be humble and shut up for the next 20 years at least.
>>42715937>which means that we can accomplish everything by just willing it into realityThis is such a retarded thing for anyone to say unless you're a billionaire with male model looks. I don't want to be poor retard, if I could will anything into reality I would have already willed myself into a life of wealth, peace, security and happiness which I've "willed" my entire life instead of living a life of misery, poverty and abuse that I never "willed".
>>42719137There's a gay music video where the dudes get lottery tickets with wishes in it and most of the people start helping others with them then some rich bastard uses his wish to make everybody lame, poor, and gay.That pretty much sums it up
