You might wake up and still be dreaming. Eyes open but still dreaming. So it mixes what your eyes see with what you're dreaming about.

>>42736397
I expect this is a larp but if not this shit will get worse and worse.
Typically these things show up in periods of grief and attach to families or a house. Generally the person haunted cannot get rid of them due to their mindset. They feed off it.
Get some help if real.

>>42736397
Have you done any /x/related things recently that could have triggered it? When I got interested in magic I started to wake up around at the classic 3am (more annoying than creepy) and occasional weird and paranormal dreams.

>>42736397
Stop it, anon, just stop.

>>42736419
>>42736408
>I expect this is a larp but if not this shit will get worse and worse.
I'm very much so serious, but I recently started taking medication for insomnia so I figured it was just >>42736401

>>42736440
Hopefully it is that then.
Actual shadow people are not good. Horrible things.

>>42736446
What are they and why are they so bad?

>>42736491
I don’t know what they are, go to wiki or whatever for a list of theories.
Now the medication style sleep paralysis that OP may or may not be having is one explanation for seeing this sort of thing.
The actual paranormal versions origins I don’t know as I said. But I do know how they behave and it’s like this >>42736408
They will gradually feed off you and get a kick out of hassling you. Typically around 3am and you’ll get a sense of something breathing on you. Later stages stuff can move around poltergeist style. They tend to be very tall and don’t appear too often physically. There’s a wealth of similar experiences across cultures.
Getting rid of them is basically by improving the atmosphere so they are not “welcome” anymore.
Easier said than done.

>>42736397
Beware of the ignorant people who desire to lead.
You have perception.
They are excited to find humans who are able to perceive.
At root it really is that simple.
They are trying to get the attention of anyone who can see into their realms.
It's not magic.
It's literally physics.
Don't be disturbed by this simple reality.
Just as you might treat any other neighbor.. be tolerant of their need for attention and their excitement at having found a human with perception.
They are asking for much more than a cup of sugar.. but they are just as tangible as your physical neighbors.

My introduction to their presence was through my Sioux friends and acquaintances.. who had already shown me how our existence extends into the subspace realms outside of the body during sleep.

So when they started taking notice they were not subtle..

There are many groups of people in this world who are very aware of how our own existence extends into these subspace realms.
If you choose to explore you are not the first.. you are not in isolation with your experience of this.

I have done everything I am describing..
I am not aware of any public non fiction source of information offering guidance..
..but many very significant presentations of this information exist in supposedly fictional literature.

Your own appetite for knowledge is your only real constraint.
Perceive accurately and keep notes.. there is much to discover.

Don't expect much help from the surface dwelling humans. Most of them are completely unaware that their highest aspirations are deadlocked by Dunning Kruger

Most of the adventure is not a function of the physical body. There is much to learn

>>42736750
Which meds?

>>42736397
Presumably it's something mundane like sleep paralysis or hypnagogia. If not, if they haven't been troubling you physically or speaking to you, I'd imagine they're low-grade psychic or spiritual parasites. Think a step up from a bad habit and a step down from a functional substance dependency. Unironically a good diet and regular exercise is a great place to start. Salmon, spinach, beans and chickpeas. Hiking or jogging, light resistance training at least twice a week.

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>>42736491
According to Robert Bruce (he was an expert on astral projection), they can either be a psychic projection of your own fear or negative entities feeding off your fear and anxiety.

>A core pillar of Bruce’s work is the Mind-Split Effect. He argues that during sleep or an Out-of-Body Experience (OBE), human consciousness duplicates. One aspect stays with the physical body, while the other projects into the astral realm

>If the physical body experiences sleep paralysis and gets frightened, a telepathic shockwave is sent to the projected astral double. This sudden trauma can cause the projector to see a terrifying, dark distortion of their own physical surroundings or a manifestation of their own fear, which they misinterpret as a malicious "shadow person" looming over them.

>When shadow figures are not just psychological feedback, Bruce classifies them as "Negs" (Negative Entities). In his Psychic Self-Defense Handbook, he characterizes these beings as lower-dimensional parasites They do not necessarily possess physical power, but they feed on human fear, anxiety, and negative emotional energy. They intentionally appear as dark, featureless, shifting shadows or silhouettes—often wearing hats or coats—to trigger a massive spike of adrenaline and terror in human targets, thereby creating a renewable "food" source.

>>42736846
>Visually project blinding, bright white or golden light from your energy body to repel the darkness.

I actually did this sort of unwittingly/automatically last time I had a half sleeping situation where I thought something was on top me. I faced my palms up and imagined I shooting light towards it and it stopped. Haven't had any similar experiences since.

>>42736846
Who made him an expert?
Having read his stuff I’m not so sure.

>>42736866
I suppose most experts are self proclaimed such based on their experiences and knowledge.
What do you not agree with?

>>42736397
Just sleep paralysis hallucinations.
Used to happen to me.
As soon as I truly realized they weren’t real, I stopped being afraid and they stopped showing up

>>42736397
This should have been Microsoft's Windows logo, stereotypical creepy apparition and all

>>42736397
Wow such blatant shadowphobic remarks, real cool pal

I still haven’t cracked the mystery of these beings. I have suspicions but that’s not of value to share at the moment. What I will share is one experience with Shadow Beings that always pops back into thought here and there.

I was on training in Texas for my 2nd deployment. We were housed in rooms of about 4 or more soldiers a piece and we had bunk-beds. I slept on the top bunk right at the door.
One night In sleeping and the familiar feeling of sleep hynogogia kicks in (Hynogogia and Sleep Paralysis are linked but the former you can freely move if you put in enough effort or energy)

As it kicks in I notice 3 shadow beings come into my room and begin looking up at me and here’s where it gets interesting.
There were 2 adults and one child shadow being. I could surmise those based on size, body outline and some intuitive energy perception.
The adult on my left was holding the hand of the kid who was in the middle, so I assume they are father and son. The adult on the right gives off the feeling of a tour guide, even pointing towards me and then turning his head as if to explain something.
I never heard any speaking but could tell they were communicating.
Pissed off at this invasion of privacy and feeling as if I’m some damn zoo animal, I muster up enough energy to swing a punch at the father (don’t know why I went for him) and end up feeling myself falling over the bed.

Before I woke up I was 1,000% certain I’d be on the floor and injured but woke up in the same position on my bunk I’d fallen asleep in.

Just wanted to share this

>>42736397
>What does this mean /x/?
section 8 rental near you

>>42737935
There's a middle world between being awake and at rest. It's generally uninhibited. Not sure what conditions make it possible for those shadows to manifest, but I feel like it depends on your age, younger people are more likely to see them I think. The rational purpose for them I believe is our brains attempting to keep our survival instincts turned on, which most youth seem to ignore, or maybe it's a phase of mental development to make you more cautious of the environment, or other people when there no danger, like you being given an adversary for training. They usually run away when you notice them, they are tangible because I grabbed one by the forearm and I instantly woke up. As an adult I don't dream about them anymore, but I think it's because my age has put my survival instincts into an external state, I think about my family and my well being because I want them to see tomorrow. I dreamed about them the most when I slept in the daytime. Sometimes when I would wake up early I'd go outside and hallucinate them for an instant.

If you are lucid and cause a sunrise they will vanish too, worked everytime I ran into them after my second encounter, which was when I grabbed the one I mentioned. Pretty much any malevolent dream entity can't survive direct sunlight, so if there's a windows nearby that's your way out, if not then grab on a doorway and start pulling as hard as you can until you rip the walls out to make an opening. They all love to corner people in closed spaces, but they can't go outside.

>>42737935
>I still haven’t cracked the mystery of these beings
"these beings" don't exist
you're just another stupid human with an overactive visual cortex always "seeing things" as you people call it and not smart enough to realize your fucking H A L L U C I N A T I O N S are just that, because you've been having them in one form or other since you were little, and something so normal to you MUST be real hurr hur

literally 8 billion other people like you

please wake up with aphantasia tomorrow and shut up

>>42738880
I could almost guarantee sleep paralysis if i napped in a certain position during the day as a teenager (obese). it always occurred in the dreary, deep but conscious place between sleep and wakefulness. if i then 'open' my eyes, i always saw a towering shadow figure or other entity of another kind.

there is likely big spiritual influence in your home. i'd suggest praying psalm 91:10 to get rid of it. if it persists, get a priest.

You know what you need to anon?
Do good school in man
You need a car
Buy one school for 2k
So u can buy stuff supplies and school

>>42736397
it means you should stop using meth

>>42736931
His astral projection stuff is basically lifted straight from Theosophy lore and Sylvan Muldoon techniques. I am unconvinced it is anything other than lucid dreaming.

>>42737935
You are an interesting observer because you have noticed what few have done, these encounters that happen in what people can the threshold, happen in a reality that is mirrored to our own.

Yes there are stories of people encountering hat man in dreams, but these "threshold" encounters happen in a mirror reality for the most part same as astral projection, for the most part this mirror reality seems to be similar to our own if not 95% correctly, hence why your falling just woke up the encounter technically happened in your real location but you were not noticing the "real location" you were noticing the mirror "real location".

It seems sleep and dreaming are related to reality or better put reality is a solid dream because it's rendered by many minds, kind off like some videogames do not have server in multiplayer but all clients sync to each other, except if one pc goes out of sync entire strategy game goes out of sync because there is no central server for those games multiplayer.

Except that in reality the "out of sync" alert seems to be a threeshold encounter or maybe synchronicities in real life that some may call "magical" if triggered in certain ways.

>>42739012
>"these beings" don't exist

The archetypes do exist and have an influence in the real world, vatniks and hohols are killing themselves with drones they name after baba yaga (the old hag), the usa created nuclear weapons in project manhattan, (and a the hat man archetype of sleep paralysis is a tan hat man (opposite of man hat tan))

During the days before the battle of midway people encountered the hat man in the white house for example (they called him lincoln ghost) this thing goes deeper than what most believe and is far from aphantasia.

>>42736397
I see this too, they're demons who say bad things to you all day because we operate at a low vibration due to being traumatized or hurt as kids. Not a huge deal youll just never be happy or normal.

>>42736397
All of the shadow people I have met are more defenders. People seem to think Hat man is evi, for example, but he seems to be like an agent that protects when bad things start happening and I get depressed. More like a watcher or agent, and when I see him I know I'm in bad spot but it means I'll get through it kind of a thing.
The reason I say it like this is that there was like a hairy creature that my lil bro and granny seen that they called Satan, then Hatman showed up and the Satan creature stopped showing up. I don't doubt "shadow people" can be evil though, since entities can hide in the dark. I just don't think the shadow people are malevolent in general.
I think some are guardians, but people fear the unknown and project the worst onto that which they do not know.

>let me tell you my take on the shadow people
>its different from everyone else
>mine is right tho.
Kek.

>>42736397
>get black out blinds/curtains, no light, no shadow
>wear cheap sleep earplugs you get in a jar off amazon
>wear half decent eye mask, cheap but with eye grooves
problem solved

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>>42736491
Some say they are your own shadow. You know, Carl jung, the Ego, and it's duplicate in the polar opposite, the shadow. Every one has a shadow, and most suppress it. But it's here.

The other humans are not holding knowledge, they are prescribing ignorance as the only metric by which to know reality. Following those who have no clue, where from will your own orientation begin?

Smug ignorance is such a warm blanket the lost will make it to the grave in comfort, never discovering the potential of their own existence.

Learn to perceive your reality from the out of body perspective.
This is the only path towards knowledge of these beings who have no tangible corporal form.
They have much to offer.

The inept are proud to guide you towards their beloved ignorance. They have only ridicule in the presence of actual knowledge.

>>42737935
After discovering the reality;
I went to their schools.. taught a class to their young.. worked with their professionally capable.

There are real answers.
There is much to discover.
Live and learn.
This was me >>42736750

>>42746462
anything supressed is the shadow** anything integrated in the ego structure and self structure isnt nor can ever be by definition part of the shadow**

>>42739012
Woah calm down Dave

>>42738880
I have seen hat man outside in the sun standing by a tree, so this is not true.