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I'm ready for the time traveler red pill. Lay it on me.
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>>42741456
David Lewis proved that time travel is possible. Since it's possible, eventually someone will make it, and since it will be made in the future, then anyone from any point of history could be a time traveler.
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It's probably real, along with timelines and all that other stuff.
It's probably like rick and morty with fucking time cops and other shit like that
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>>42741456
King Pakal officially lived for 80 years, but his body was dated to have been much younger when he died. He was said to be able to "altar the shifting of the moon", and his sarcophagus depicted him riding some kind of advanced vehicle. Also, his wife lived to be 98, which was nearly impossible back then. Pakal was a time traveler.
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>>42741545
It would be nice if the mechanics of timetravel were fully fleshed out. Are there multiple timelines? One timeline? Does time travel conserve momentum somehow? (otherwise, a physical object might end up traveling into empty space while earth/solar system is off somewhere else since we're all moving all time time). How are time paradoxes resolved? Etc.
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>>42741545
>philosopher
>proving anything
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>>42741605
Proof isn't only empirical demonstration.
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>>42741456
https://youtu.be/ZSo84SSKsNI?t=2769

Here you go. Dan Burisch is the OG time-traveling alien guy. Hard to say whether he's BS or not; he's probably got a full disinfo campaign against him to discredit him like Bob Lazar if he is legit, so who can really know? His college background and biologist credentials have been checked and proven by researchers however unlike Bob's so in that way he's more credible. Got some real fuckin wild claims throughout his interviews though so many people roll their eyes at him. I kind of believe him, though he's not one of those super high profile book-selling convention types; he's pretty underground and impossible to get ahold of.

Dan Burisch claims he worked at the infamous S4 with an alien they named J-Rod that came from two groups of greys from the future, p-48s and p-52s, indicating how many thousands of years in the future they were from. They were descended from us after a great cataclysm in the near future that drives the surviving humans underground. We evolve and transform ourselves into these tiny grey bodies, but they have a genetic disease that's killing them and wiping them out, so they came back here to get DNA from us to try and fix it.

There's a lot of stuff about timeline divergence and the different timelines that are created form this great cataclysm as well. It's an amazing interview, whether or not it's all true.
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>>42741456
You would have to be a complete moron to believe this this. There is no good reason to prefer this explanation over the cryptoterrestrial hypothesis. It remains the only plausible theory.
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>>42742946
I watched a bit of one of his interviews. It's a very dif'erent style to the normal grifter types. I really wasn't sure what to make of it, except that it was very difficult to follow, and eventually I fell asleep. I want to believe.
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to the best of my knowledge the p# timelines originates with Dan Burisch:
https://youtu.be/d83TIOhfPA0&t=590
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Amy Eskridge owes me sex.
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>>42742946
They conveniently ignore that cataclysmic events and underground civilizations have already happened in the past.
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apparently she faked her death and is working in an underground base in green mountain, alabama according to this guy's account and the remote viewing data from tony rodrigues
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1baG3pZLEXE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dztEYW_plk
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the p47/p52 conflict is fake and was fed to Amy by a glownigger whom she described as being a very evil man. the grey aliens who are here with us are fallen angels, they lowered their vibrational level to a point that they would receive bodies that can bleed in order to experience the pleasures of the flesh like humans do. now they're stuck in their mountain bases, there are also higher vibrational beings that do occasionally pay a visit here but their visitations have been far fewer in between now due to it being satan's little season, during christ's reign it was common occurence that they would come to services and visit our homes as well.
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>>42742946
>Dan Burisch
I don't know much about Jeremy corbell but I just heard him on a podcast call it bullshit.
I've heard Dan Burisch interview and from what I recall I'm skeptical of much of what he said. I'll have to rewatch it.
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>>42744391
Yep.
Amy didn't come to this conclusion herself, Hal Puthoff told her. Who she herself has said is "evil" alongside Elizondo.
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>>42744199
>YouTube remote viewers
Might as well get open heart surgery from Fiver
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>>42744588
Hal is a weird dude, he was running around podcasts when he was 90 years old. like who tf does that shit at that age? even the healthiest people are practically dying at that point, interestingly he didn't mention ultra-terrestrials nor time travelers once in his podcast appearances either.
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>>42744712
He's often times a two for one package with Elizondo, who we're fairly certain is an outright disinformation agent or someone who's job is to sculpt the narrative.

Sometimes I think I'd be better off completely blacklisting these government employees when forming my thoughts regarding the subject. Listening to them may actually just be poison.
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>>42744727
>I'd be better off completely blacklisting these government employees when forming my thoughts regarding the subject
absolutely, i highly doubt that the apocalyptic event they is going to be as bad as they say it is. they need to keep us in perpetual fear and second guessing ourselves constantly so that we fall for their deception. they need us to keep looking at the external so that we may never look in the internal, deception comes from the latin word de capere which means to take, to catch, to ensnare. in order to be deceived you need to be caught in their lies and the hook only works when you are looking away. that is how they rule you and gain power over you and by being aware of it you can begin to strip away their power.
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>>42741456
I'm looping
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>>42741456
In our linear context the John Titor was a hoax.. but the hoax is a shadow of the presence in another timeline of a John Titor who was what he asserted himself to be.

Much of our media appears to be fictional narrative because we don't survive in the reality in which that is the tangible physical material reality.

We can not exist in the realms in which we are destroyed.. but those realms bleed over into our own due to the properties of laminar flow as they pertain to the Higgs value of our shared bosonic field.
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>>42744408
>Jeremy corbell
He's kind of like Reddit or Jim Cramer where doing the opposite will generally lead to success and truth.
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>>42744858
The glowies and billionaires bought bunkers, but to be brutally honest if we have a Great Depression 2, that would be enough to justify the existence of bunkers. They'd be the first assassination targets. An apocalypse to them could be literally anything. Whether that be "free energy for the masses!" or "okay civilians have lost patience and are engaging in a revolution".

I don't believe their ontological shock or pole reversal bullshit. They have bunkers because they know they would be deeply unpopular if shit hits the fan.
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>>42744858
>early 15c., decepcioun, "act of misleading, a lie, a falsehood," from Old French déception (13c., decepcion) or directly from Late Latin deceptionem (nominative deceptio) "a deceiving," noun of state or action from past-participle stem of Latin decipere "to ensnare, take in, beguile, cheat," from de "from" or pejorative (see de-) + capere "to take," from PIE root *kap- "to grasp."

>From mid-15c. as "state of being deceived; error, mistake;" from 1794 as "artifice, cheat, that which deceives."

holy crap people give genuine etymologies on /x/ now? must have been a timeline shift
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>>42744391
>heir visitations have been far fewer in between now due to it being satan's little season, during christ's reign it was common occurence that they would come to services and visit our homes as well
What is meant by this?
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>>42745184
Honestly it's uncanny seeing Mother-anon post anything intelligible, don't jinx it.
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>>42741456
>>42744199
Lol she's a NASA baby so yeah there's an unironic chance she's underground.

https://youtu.be/hMza-qg7kyk
>"They're [the aliens are] us from the future. They're from here [Earth]. They are you, they are me, they're from here, they're from the future."
>"P47 is Present [time] plus forty-seven thousand years. P52 is Present plus fifty-two thousand years."
>"And basically there's a calamity, right. There like an apocalypse scenario in the near future. It wipes out most of like, everything - man."
>"And there's the ones that go underground and survive, right. And then there's the ones that somehow stay on the surface and miraculously don't die..."
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>>42742946
I'm expected to believe they can time travel but can't do dna gene patching which is a thing right now?
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>>42744391
>claims disinfo
>spreads colins group disinfo instead
can all the christcucks please exit the ufo conversations?
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>>42741456
OP ur time traveling rn
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>>42741456
>Amy Eskridge
"Gangstalked" schizo.
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I still choose to believe Passport to Magonia
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>>42745459
Colin's Elite propaganda is the opposite, implying every UFO encounter is actually demons. It's just that /x/ meme, "everything I don't understand is demons". Really it seems to me more of a narrative to push a conservative government towards gatekeeping disclosure or to kill curiosity.

The new age "UFOs are actually angels" is equally close minded.
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>>42741579
> otherwise, a physical object might end up traveling into empty space while earth/solar system is off somewhere else since we're all moving all time time

earth and the sun are not randomly drifting through space, they follow gravity. We know gravity couples to spacetime since 100 years.

If timetravel is possible, it is very likely to follow gravity as well. you would still orbit the same sun, riding the DeLorean on the same earth. maybe the ride gets a bit bumpy across over the decades.
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>>42742946
> two groups of greys from the future, p-48s and p-52s, indicating how many thousands of years in the future they were from

p-47, p-48, p-52. someone is counting. p for plus and then there must be minus? If they are decendents, likely 50 thousand years, or 50 million years? how fast would evolution need to go to turn us grey?

about the cataclysm, what should it be that drives us underground? i would guess nuclear war, and genetic defects arise from the
low number of survivors (or superrichs with their own caverns).

its at least believeable.
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>>42744858
God I'd wreck that Ayy
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>>42744592
anyone can remote view if they learn the protocols
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>>42744592
>remote viewers

It's clairvoyance under a modern name and just as fake, if not faker. That's why the CIA who were ordered to find any method possible to one up the Soviets shut down the program quickly as they realized they're dealing with a bunch of liars who "remote view" based on receiving as much information as possible about a given location, have a good sleep and come up with an educated guess. That's how clairvoyance always worked. The more the person doing it knows about you, the more personalized their "readings" are. If they don't, they resort to using vague language which can fit everyone, every day.
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>>42745698
It's already possible to calculate orbit positions in a given year and time. Everyone who is capable of time travel would easily be able to get the coordinates right in order to appear in the right place.
It seems to me that Everett's Many Worlds Interpretation is the only way to reconcile time travel with physics, as it would mean no paradoxes. Killing yourself would be just killing a version of yourself in a new timeline you traveled to. This might be the reason we don't see time travelers or time travel used as a weapon - every travel would send that person to a new timeline, so whatever changes they would influence, they would be the only ones for whom it would be meaningful.
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>>42741456
Those are workout programs, you know, like P90X.
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>>42746084
I don't trust randos to filter between external data and their imagination. It's a difficult task and YouTube requires zero credentials. People can do whatever they want with a 10% track record and it would be taken seriously.
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>>42746454
Double blind test conditions with qualifying sample targets for evaluation purposes.
Multiple efforts to observe by multiple viewers.
Real research efforts have pretty high thresholds for evaluation of quality of data.
The idea of turning to random people for information has more to do with learning the process for yourself than creating dependency on the performance of any single source. When multiple viewers have detailed corroboration with everyone involved blind to the target then there is strong cohesion in the data.. but they still would not put boots on the ground over cognitively collected data.
They require tangible physical verification of the data before committing to action.
Cognitive imagery perceptions are always subject to conditions and influence beyond the linear context. Useful but not conclusive in and of itself.

In personal use however much can be perceived that requires years of experience to fully comprehend.
This insight is not trivial but it can be very difficult to share the value of
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>>42746084
Remote viewing is useless without the ability to verify the data
Ingo Swann himself said this
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I listened to the entire interview last night. I think she's telling the truth a lot of the time, but she caught herself up in at least one lie.

She said "she knows nothing about modern UFO lore" (paraphrashing), "has never googled UFOS", etc.
Then not 15 minutes later she says she's been to Contact In The Desert (big time normie UFO gathering) before quickly correcting herself "no, no I haven't".

Thought that was weird.
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>>42745294
the 1000 year reign of christ, it's arts and crafts and people were so beautiful that god himself dwelled among them in their cities. it was common occurence that angels would descend down into earth to worship god with us and help us around. now it doesn't happen as much since satan rules the world.



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