Attachment leads to suffering
And yet we remain attached to the mortal coil.
>>42759357problem with this buddhist stuff is it says bad and suffering is the same
>>42759357Aversion leads to suffering
The Middle Path.
>>42759401see how you got attached to meaning of words and then ended up confused
Who's here in the flow?
>>42759357>that picrellooks like you're still attached to snack cakes you fuckin fatty
>>42759467see how im not an egomaniac that realizes feelings have nothing to do with good and evil?
I am going to genocide mankind as sacrificial offering to have my pretty work and sex slave humans that belong to me as slaves that love only me, toil and labor only for me and gangbang only me.
>>42759401Suffering is suffering, bad is bad.To avoid suffering is a desire, inherently neither good nor bad, though it can either lead to suffering or its cessation.Do you think the cessation of suffering is good? Many would say it makes humility difficult, to not suffer one's errors for instance. Buddhism does not base good and bad on suffering. It bases them on the 8 fold path, so that suffering is met appropriately. The reduction of ego and mental poisons is paired with the desire to reduce the suffering of others.
Suffering is the price for vitality. If you are not willing to bleed for it, what is it worth? By renouncing attachment, you suffer to gain peace. The Buddha sat starving to death under a tree for great insights into the human mind; the Christian monk lets his body and will waste away for a chance to know God. You do not avoid suffering by rejecting attachment - you simply change its direction. Only when you're dead can you know release from suffering. So if you won't kill yourself, then what are you bleeding for? Comfort? Hope? Relief from fear? Are your motives that base? Like a dog in a cage, begging it's master for table scraps? Those who have the will to achieve greater motives will bleed for greater things; those who do not will get the whip over and over and over again. You have three options:1. Die2. Stagnate3. OvercomeBleed, goddamn you. Burn and bleed.
>>42759357You're right. For example, gay leads to AIDS.
>>42759517>so that suffering is met appropriately.And this is why Buddhism fails. It does nothing to prevent or eliminate suffering, it only accepts it.
>>42759357What's the point of Creation?
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>>42759753Yes, an excellent example.
>>42759723>It does nothing to prevent or eliminate sufferingNo idea does or should. That's on us, and ideas can only guide. Buddhism specifically focusing on prevention, by directing people to eliminate their cravings.Craving for sensual pleasure (kama-tanha)>wanting pleasant experience, sights, tastes, comfortCraving for existence/becoming (bhava-tanha)>wanting to be something, to persist, to become a self of a certain kindCraving for non-existence (vibhava-tanha) >wanting to get rid of, annihilate, not-beAversion is treated as a form of craving too, just inverted. By pairing awareness of the ego and craving with the desire to relive the suffering of others, a Buddhist must confront compassion (karuna) from craving (tanha) for themselves. The relief this brings is life changing, akin to what Jung called the Sophia stage.
>>42759723What is the cause of suffering?
>>42759357can I first have everything that gautama buddha had in his life so that I can come to this wonderful conclusion on the same terms? no? then eat shit
I have a differ ent opinions. I’m attached. I suffer. For you my brother. Christ on a cross or something. Idk
>>42760011Your requirements for happiness are self-imposed restricting to remain a miserable cunt. You drink the poison and complain about being poisoned.
>>42759953>No idea does or shouldreligion of weakness
>>42759357Unbind yourself from animal spirits
>>42759953>BuddhismIs a nihilistic death cult when you boil it down. People like to get all flowery about it, but the end goal is death any ways.
What is a schizophrenic buddhist
>>42760285i'm just a smug cunt though
>>42760426Get back to me if you find some supporting evidence.
Suffering leads to suffering
>>42760578Hes right. Buddhism is a nihilistic death cult for slaves. It makes sense that the west promotes it so much since it teaches renunication and acceptance. The perfect kind of ideology to promote for someoneberg to comeowitz and takenman everythingstein
>>42760426>t. Israel's #1 Golem.
>>42759357>suffering builds character
>>42760718Buddhism does not teach that life is worthless or that death is desirable. It teaches that compulsive craving, aversion, and delusion make experience unnecessarily painful. Renunciation means relinquishing those compulsions, not relinquishing existence, relationships, pleasure, moral responsibility, or care for others. Acceptance means accurately acknowledging present conditions so that one can respond wisely, rather than wasting energy denying reality.
>>42760718>>42760803As for why the west finds it appealing, it's largely because Buddhism doesn't conflict with most western teachings like many other religions do. Where Christianity approaches God as yin using yang, Buddhism approaches the Buddha as yang using yin.
>>42759992Existence
>>42760842It probably won't be long before the antichrist unites Buddhism and Christianity under Taoism as an echo of Hinduism/Zoroastrianism. The globalists and academics will eat it up. Just you wait and see.
>>42760803>Buddhism does not teach that death is desirableCorrect. It teaches that death isn't extreme enough, because of rebirth- so you need to work extra hard to completely delete yourself and stop all future births
>>42760867>need toThis is the opposite of a Buddhist mentality on the matter. The oath to end suffering in the world before ending their own cycle of rebirth must be taken with no personal connection to the outcome. It must come from pure compassion, with no ego to muddle the conviction. There is no personal need or want involved, and the goal is not the end of their own reincarnation.So while you say "they seek something more extreme than death!" - I say correct, but what they seek is a world without needless suffering. They call that an enlightened world, and something worth suffering for in the present to achieve.
>>42759357Fat people have no right to talk about transcending attachments. They should be ignored.
>>42760933Isn't it typical for people to hold on to food as a final attachment to keep themselves invested in a domestic (largely non-spiritual) life until they decide they're ready to go?I wouldn't not discount the wisdom of an elderly husband for his weight.
>"attachment leads to suffering">*i punch you in the face*You were saying?
>>42760953Fat people have no self-control. RUN from a fat guru, therapist, spiritual guide, religious leader, etc.Zero exceptions.
>>42761000I tend to ignore people who deal in absolutes, even if they keep getting nice digits. Thanks for sharing though.
>>42760990Your hypothetical fist attached itself to my hypothetical face, and now I'm looking at myself thinking what a fool I must have been to cross metaphorical swords with a geniusike yourself
>>42761012Well I’ll admit it’s a heuristic, but it’s a damn good one, logically.Would you ever take financial advice from a homeless person? I wouldn’t, absolutely.
>>42761020I met a homeless guy who told me a story:He was approached by a man in a business suit, who said he'd just made the best deal of his life and wanted to share the luck. The man then told him to pick a number between 0 and 5,000. The homeless dude said 2500, and the suited man took his wallet out and passed him 2500 in cash.I've pondered on this for a good while, and have come to the conclusion that the homeless man was subtly brilliant in his use of the Middle Way. If he had said 5000, the suited man could have said that he's too greedy, and so given him nothing. If he had said 0, the man could have said that he lacked ambition, and so given him nothing. But at first glance, you don't have the quick wit to judge the entire character of a man with such a different position and station in life that you can pokerfacedly drop a crazy figure. So he took what he could.I still regard that man as one of my teachers. Most often, you find them by accident...
>>42759357Cope made by losers without shit.Only reason it works for Asians is because they aren't human.
>>42760903>The oath to end suffering in the world before ending their own cycle of rebirth must be taken with no personal connection to the outcome. It must come from pure compassion, with no ego to muddle the conviction. There is no personal need or want involved, and the goal is not the end of their own reincarnationI was speaking about original Buddhism, not *checks notes* Buddhists that got secret teachings from interdimensional dragons
>>42759357then why'd you include a picture in the op faggot. you could have just not made a post at all. too attached to posting on the internet op. go suffer for it.
>>42759357Lack of opioids you mean.
>>42759357Suffering leads to suffering bitch ass attachment is what keep you from avoiding it
what if...suffering...good?
The proper response to this is the question "what is worth suffering for?" Not ancient pajeet nihilism.
>>42761044And then everybody clapped
>>42760867Why is death extreme? It's a natural process for all living things. Either we die and there's nothing more or we're reborn endlessly. So what's the point? What is the grand meaning?Sex and death are the central drivers in life that cause desires, fears, anxiety and sorrow in humans. This is suffering. Buddha taught how to let go of these primal feelings that rule your mind, to end suffering and become your own master.
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>yet another buddhist preaching thread
>>42762135Nothing is.
>>42759401"Suffering is bad" is the normie take. Buddha said suffering is mainly a choice in that you mentally plague yourself when you anguish about non-desirable states of mind. Suffering and dissatisfaction originates in not having something you desire or having something you don't desire. The chase for satisfaction is endless, it's the meaning of desiring something. As soon as a desire is satisfied you'll soon desire it again, or more of it, or something else, until you learn to be content and temper desire with moderation.
>>42759357Let me ask you this: "What is a principle that bends based on the conditions?" It is not a principle at all. A true principle applies under all conditions and is applied equally. No one can bend it or escape it.It is said, "You shall not kill." Why then do you say, "You shall not kill, unless..."? Are you not then breaking the principle based on the conditions? Or if you say, "Love one another," yet when someone hates you, you hold it against them, are you then not breaking the principle based on the conditions?I tell you: a true principle does not bend. That is why it is said, "God does not show favoritism."If your principle is "You shall not kill," and someone is trying to take your life, why should your principle bend based on what they are doing? Is not your principle above their actions?What is a person that tells the truth only when it benefits them? I tell you: he is a liar. Someone who loves the truth will tell the truth even when it does not benefit them. And someone who sacrifices themselves for the sake of truth is a man of truth.Why do you think Jesus said, "If someone slaps you on one cheek, turn to them the other also. If someone takes your coat, do not withhold your shirt from them"? Because the principle does not bend.You will ask me, "But how can this be?" If all you value is this World, you will never be able to live by these principles, because what you value is your prison.A slave of the self will always do what the self desires, but a slave of truth will do What Is."Whoever wants to save their life will lose it, but whoever loses their life for me will find it."
>>42759357You say, "If only I had great wealth, I would give a tenth of it to the poor." And another says, "I would give half of it to the poor." I tell you: the very fact that you set these conditions for yourselves proves what your hearts truly desire. Do you want this great wealth because you are generous, or because you want a part of it for yourselves? Someone who is generous gives even from the little he has, and he will receive much more in return. The one who has much and does not give, all they have will be taken from them.Great is the person who says, "Pay me back whenever you are able." Even greater is the one who says, "Take it, you owe me nothing."Many rich people came to the temple and gave away large sums of money. They gave away from their wealth, but the poor widow put in two very small copper coins from "all she had to live on." I tell you: what she did there proved more about her than the large sums proved about the rich who gave away from their wealth.So it is with knowledge. As it is said, "From everyone who has been given much, much will be demanded; and from the one who has been entrusted with much, much more will be asked." When someone is given only a little knowledge and they live according to the little knowledge they are given, their reward will surely be greater than that of those who were entrusted with a wealth of knowledge and did not put it into practice.The more awareness you are given, the higher your accountability is. The world does not recognize this, and that is why you see those who are wealthy in awareness use it for their own benefit. But remember this: God sees all things, and His judgment is just.
>>42759401retard
>>42762552>This is suffering.Buddha taught how to let go of these primal feelings that rule your mind, to end suffering and become your own masterAnd how to delete yourself forever
>>42763767You can only "delete" what is not self (Atman).
>>42763829How do I delete everything around me so that the only thing that remains is my empty self?
