I just cut smoking to about 10 cigarettes per day and the voices are almost completely gone. If i didn't know i had them i probably wouldn't even notice them. Like, really really low volume they are there sometimes, but most of the time aren't even there. So my question is- why was I lied to with the claim that smoking helps schizophrenia? It literally makes it worse. Maybe my case is unique. Whats going on?
>>42809135Niacin (B3 in the form of nicotinic acid, not nicotinamide or niacinamide) may help schizophrenia. Nicotine may act as a toxic analogue of niacin. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfpQWQD6Cv4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFW5dB3G-0c
>>42809153Interesting. Never heard of this. I'll go get Niacin capsules this very day and I'll probably report back if it helped.Thanks so much anon. Thanks alot. I already eat a lot of meat, eggs and diary so I probably have alot of B3 but maybe I need more. My condition has gotten much better over the years. Maybe this will help me with the next step, and that is getting rid of the condition almost completely, socializing more and getting out of my shell
>>42809153>>42809235also but still this doesn't explain why my condition has gotten better after lowering cigarettes though
>>42809239stress and anxiety can also affect the hearing of voices. nicotine can cause stress and anxiety in the long term, so lowering the amount smoked (along with proper diet/exercise/mental help) can help reduce anxiety and stress, thus reducing the voices.
>>42809265yes i feel more calm when i smoke less, my pulse is also lower. i feel less stressful but that's because i dont work currently, if i work i would be stressed out. hanging out with friends also stresses me out cause of all the sick bullshit they talk about. i fixed my sleep, diet and i dont drink or do drugs anymore, i also go for regular walks so i'm doing better but i still can't hold a job and i'm ( perhaps rightfully ) scared of people
>>42809153what are the recommended daily doses? seems to be something stratospherically highonly non prescription ones they have at my pharmachy are 25mg longines. Do I need more?
>>42809235While that diet will keep you sharp, it might not be the best if you're uncontrolled. Normals eat a lot of carbs to stay balanced.
>>42809367i never said i dont eat carbs. i eat a lot of carbs, bread, pasta, potatoes and rice. I dont do keto, no way that's healthy
>>42809135Cut sugar
>>42809446already tried, had high pulse and nausea from too low blood sugar. it's a misleading meme that sugar is bad for you- its fine in moderation
How meny butts can you...Really enjoy per day...For sum it's 4...Why do moar...Guess because it's a choice...As for the voices...Dat shits fucked...And you should probably wear...A badge or sum shit...To warn others with out...The need for conversation...
>>42809153just to report back with initial impressionstook a 25mg longine, at first i had some mild tingling in legs like i smoked a cig after a long time, so those things about niacin being analogous to nicotine might be truefelt just a bit calmer and felt a bit better in my skin immediately after taking itright now i feel calm. my perception or should i say vision changed a bit. it reminds me of my pre-schizo days, the colors seem warmer and just a bit more shaded, like the contrast changed a bit so that it seems darker but just a bit and in a good way. It reminds me of the time I was being in solitude, just reading and listening to music the summer before i had first psychotic episode. So that's really a good signWe'll see
>>42809505No, you see, it's a weird thing some church high ranking offices have done, they "remixed and stitched together some spirits, and latched them" more or less, so they use those vices. Play an instrument, talent or nit, at the voices, it helps.
>>42809555I dont understand the first part of your post but yes, i play an instrument every day
>>42809584At the voices? Or the church? The "targeting" part helps
>>42809584Yeah, it's technical shamanism jargon, hard to gather I figure. Just make music targeting the voices , detune and play sparse notes and chords and riffs w this:https://youtu.be/CDWtH8eHeEU?si=akB2QOn6ipzdN_7uVery cool sonic buttpleasure too
>>4280913590% od schizophrenics are chainsmokers. Nicotine receptors are fucked up in those people.Unrelated, there's always an excess of dopamine in schizos too.
>>42809370There is a lot of evidence suggesting a link between schizophrenia and wheat. Try eliminating bread and pasta to see if that helps at all. Potatoes and rice should be fine
>>42809505Yikes.
>>42809135This is the voices:https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/animals/a71151516/black-goo-new-species-discovery/
>>42809793Visualize a black goo being and attack it astrally or play music with instrument at it to fend it off
>>42809235>capsulesIt's usually in tablets, but ok. Make sure it says "nicotinic acid". They usually try to sell you on other forms, which are both more expensive, and less effective for this particular issue. If it says "no flush" it's no good.
Anon, Op, try this. Say insanely obscene and filthy things to the voices. If you can karaoke or strum a popular song, switch the lyrics for insane, filthy dirty shite. Trust me with this.
>>42809946Like write a song about pleasuring yourself with your hands smeared in dog shit impregnated with dog aids and a few corn grains, cooming hard later in the butt of a nymphomaniac nun with syphylis.
>>42809946>see that smoldering fire?>add gasoline to it. Trust me on this.Never trust a namefag.
>>42810019>Muh religionFuck off retard, if your religion is real heal him, if not, quiet the fuck up
>>42810058>>42809946>>42809955fuck off from my thread
>>42810080You don't have the problem you describe, larper, as people with trouble gladly accept help instead of being selective about it
>>42810104i have reasoning abilitiesyelling obscene shit is just gonna make me think about obscene shit and poison my mindbut i dont even know why i explain myself to retards on here
>>42810111Ok cool, get healed by your religion and don't parrot it to us, since it got u possesed and hasnt healed you yet.
>>42810136There's your ressoning ability, FAGGOT. Your religion fucked you in the ass, a shaman came in your help, and your religion fucked you in the ass again.
>>42809640>wheathey man. thanks for the heads up, it means a lot.so i just came back from the shop with tons of gluten free stuff- bread, pasta, rice, oats, corn flour. i'll report back in couple of days if the thread is still up whether it helped at all or notwe'll see how it goes
>>42809135Nicotine is fucking gay. If you want the voices to stop, simply accept yourself as the sole driver of your experience. If the voices break through, then grab em by the ass and rape em till they die (in an esoteric metaphysical kinda way)
>>42810058>>42810136>>42810145>"muh religion"You're the first one to mention religion in the thread. Sounds like a you problem. Chill out.
>>42810452>corn flourIf it's not nixtamalizaed it can deplete niacin. Settlers who ate large amounts of corn got pellagra. Natives who nixtamalizaed it did not.
>>42809235It might just be an overall increase in physical health has had a mental corollary. I’ve been off weed for a month, off ssris, and I’m almost off steroids. Depression and adhd have gotten better but I still don’t want to socialize. I feel I’m getting close though
>>42809946This actually makes sense. Like you troll THEM by twisting Nickleback lyrics into songs about shooting monster loads. Flip the power dynamic and take the locus of control for yourself.
>>42811407No, you're stupid. The only reason not to do it is religion. There's cats, right, put a cucumber next to a cat, he's startled, now, there's spirits who loathe snd are very appalled by that behaviour. I'm sure you understand where I'm going.Also I gave him other ootions, making creepy music also hits them, you can banish, you can make unpleasant things w sound...
>>42809135Also, even tough you're a tard, you need help. It's not schizo. It's an illusion caused by spirits. I don't care what you believe btw. Do what you can to fisrupt the illusions. Like chaos magick laughter banish, tourette style obscenities hurled at them, creepy dissonant harmonics, etc. Do you understand where I'm going? This time? It's like shattering a mirror.
>>42811540>laughter banishThis is ez, fake laughter in privacy at them, incase it works and the illusions are gone. It foes not matter if you're the one casting the illusions with your mind, the important here, is disruption of them.
>>42809135I was locked up with a bunch of schizo most of last year, they all are very heavy smokers.
>>42811522>>42811540>>42811549It's an objectively stupid idea.>it's about muh religion Projection coming from a demon namefag. If you want a religious angle on the subject, look up Jerry Marzinsky.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64uyYw2jywA
>>42811726>This controlled opposition is where it's atTell you what, you do that shit, doesnt work? We skin you alive
>>42813101Scratch that, both the retard Op and you got angry, you help him from now on, don't use my posts for it, I'll erase them.
>>42811726It's your responsibility to help him now, if you somehow manage to just have him read your boyfriend bloggers site, who only copes and helps no one, I will not help him. I am:A daemon who happens to be a shaman who happens to have his own spirits who happens to have experience with posession and happens to be able to ride you (yes, you) and peek inside yokr mind. I don't want to, however. You two magpies help each other.
>>42811726im currently watching the video. I think I heard of the guy, is that the Psalm guy? The valley of darkness Psalm? I tried reciting the Psalm multiple times already, and to be completely honest I dont think it helped. Maybe it did but I didn't notice any difference. I think I still had mild voices throughout reading it. To paint a broader picture I usually don't have voices at all when I'm deeply focused onto something, for example working, playing a guitar, or reading. But I often dont have focus for reading. But when i do voices are gone. So it might be general reading thing, not specific to the Psalm. I read a fair share of the Bible and while I do like the Gospels I'm not sure about the Old Testament. It's pretty weird. It's pretty dated. Doesn't feel applicable to my situation. A lot of the stuff there don't seem moral. It reads like Iliad or Odyssey to me. So just like an old timey epic. But I gotta say, the comments on that video are very disturbing to me
>>42813178Personally, I've found that if you go to a holy place (such as an old church outside of service hours) they tend to be quiet. Pic. related. Still recommend you try the niacin (B3 as nicotinic acid) pill. That gives almost instant relief. >I do like the Gospels>A lot of the stuff there don't seem moralGnostics would agree with you. I've no issue with what beliefs you take, just trying to share solutions to the problem.>I tried reciting the Psalm multiple times alreadyIt's not a mantra. The syllables themselves have no power. It's power is imbued from your belief in it, even if temporary. You have to be open to the possibility that the words mean what they say and that it's not just words. I don't use the Psams personally. I just tend to use the Jesus prayer, when I need to. Much easier.
>>42813400It's not a demon, and don't help him, the being, I have located, unless there's more than one, and I'm at the place. It's this:https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/animals/a71151516/black-goo-new-species-discovery/Wether you believe it or not, that's a serious sci magazine, and yes, the being is real, I've seen it darting in the dark in the premises, it (or they) use sewage as a means, plus dark corners, it's nocturnal, and lithe, agile, it hurls itself. Generally it climbs thru the poopthrone, from the sewers, that is how it penetrated the homes of the locals.
>>42813440Don't help him because the being, and this is getting hilarious in a trite way, assimilates all these insanities, the black goo did indeed become a Christian. Yeah, take your time, digest, so you keep feeding the ideas, and I'm having a field day here, um, yeah, I'm the guy claiming to be a daemon, notice that I'm saying daemon in opposite of the common "demon" word, I'm, like your friend Mr Goo, from offworld, I'm a Hunter (a cadet), I'm waiting on a few Motherships. Yes, I'm alien.
>>42813454Btw, it's one of the reasons you should use profanity, the bible says to avoid such people, and he does.
