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Do you believe that drugs and/or alcohol has a place in spiritual and religious practices or that they are simply are distraction from reality.
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>>42820423
In moderation and specific use cases like initiations as I common in various parts of the world. It becames "counter spiritual" if you abuse it.
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No. Do not use marijuana or alcohol.
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>>42820447
So you shouldn't drink wine like jesus said
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drugs are the only way to experience certain perspectives without actually dying
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I think some truths are multidimensional and difficult to see and understand from a single fixed point.
Drugs can rapidly shift your consciousness enough to see things differently. They may be a quick, dirty, and easy way to change ones perspective, but not the only way. I think there is danger in drugs when one becomes too reliant on them, or believes it's the only way.
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>>42820423
It’s okay to drink this Rohypnol. I totally won’t bum you and cum in your anus.
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>>42820423
Substances are simply what they are, but glowfags use them to warp people's minds into a quiet slavery to a system they try to create.I tried them all, and in the end there's nothing to show for it except confusion and mental illness temporary or long-term.
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>>42820602
Perhaps but is it meaningful incite or just something made up
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>>42820423
>drugs and/or alcohol has a place in spiritual and religious practices
sure
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>>42820423
Absolutely.
The point is to reach altered or advanced mental states you could never get to sober. Connect dots that you would not be able to otherwise.

A belief system specifically telling you not to drink or use drugs wants you locked into the material world.
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>>42820447
Too late.
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20 year alcoholic here


Alcohol has no place in your body and does nothing but destroy you
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Set and setting are literally everything.

This has been known since at least the 70s with the book of the dead acid experiments
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Mushrooms made me freak out around technology at least the first few times. felt weird evil and gay. Except music
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>>42820423
Yes, it helps with letting loose. Titans will disagree, of course.
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>>42822423
>Most rituals involve some kind of potion/substance to be taken. Of course it has a place. Altered states allow subconcious communication.
Even alcohol. Jagermeister is the key to the Black Sun.
>>42822423
the ultimate sign of a spiritual midwit you shouldn't listen to is thinking that because a drug hurt them, it couldn't possibly help anyone else.
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>>42822482
first part wasn't meant to reply
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The Buddha noticed that if you spend all your time meditating you are incapable of demonstrating virtue. If you spend all your time on demonstrating virtue you are apt to lose your self to the veil of maya. If you are hungry eat, if you are thirsty drink. This is Zen.

Sometimes I need a smoke.



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