Does anyone else believe in spirits (ghosts, demons, angels, jinn, yokai, etc.) but not in God?Is believing in God along with all these other things just a Western cultural value? Like a package deal that’s been imposed on us?
>>42827520>believe in spirits (ghosts, demons, angels, jinn, yokai, etc.) but not in God?Standard for buddhists.
>>42827520its called spiritualism. people say theyre "spiritual but not religious"
>>42827575Every buddhist believes in God dumbass. Though they'd never say they "believe" in God, rather they observe God.
>>42827520We see evidence for these strange evily feeling creatures, ghosts and cryptids are a real phenomenon. We see not that much evidence for angels or a holy god that isn’t under some weird “rule matrix” to not be totally good and awesome which is fucking retarded because evil is hardly under any limitation. The evidence we do have is like a bull full of immigrants miraculously survives some accident or a person was treated by modern medicine and doesn’t die like they would have 200+ years ago, and considers it a miracle. A lot of these people are stupid people living unhappy lives who lie to themselves constantly and then decide to “make a big change” when they almost die, and invent up these dreams to explain it to their retarded selves that need physical evidence to belive something, even if that thing is supposed to require faith. Of course “good aligned spirits” might be above manifesting like a ghost or a cryptid, but you’d expect there’d be sighting of angels or a typical encounter story, or other good creatures. But maybe it’s like nature, nothing in nature is really pure, everything must bite and claw to survive, perhaps these spirits have to be creepy and scary because that’s just the nature of it.
>>42827600>Every buddhist believes in God dumbass.That's a remarkable stupid claim, Anon.Really top-tier.
>>42827520Gods are just spirits that made it big.
>>42827653Devas and God are 2 very different concepts.
>>42827638>>42827597>>42827575the universe and existence feels cooler and more mysterious with a ton of spirits but no big daddy omnipotent God. I want to spend the afterlife as a wandering spirit not in the backrooms (heaven/hell)
>>42827667I like to think Capital G God is something lovecraftian. There but also not really.
>>42827667The buddhist cosmos has many "gods" (Devas, Asuras) but no almighty force of creation.>I want to spend the afterlife as a wandering spiritThat might be a Preta then, and that's not a good realm to be.
>>42827677wandering ghosts aren't a buddhist/hindu concept they existed thousands of years before the dharmic religions.
>>42827686But a Preta is a wandering ghost.There are other spirits of course, usually related to mountains, forests, water etc.
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>>42827694you dont need to pigeonhole whole the entire thread into just budhism.
>>42827520Just as seeing ripples on the water is easier than seeing the darkest depth, so can seeing spirits be easier than seeing God. There is nothing wrong with your disbelief. The faith of the fathers was not blind, and neither should be yours. But they did strive toward holy life and practiced hesychasm in order to seek God. By their accounts at least, their efforts were answered. https://thoughtsintrusive.wordpress.com/2018/01/30/a-noetic-life/
>>42827714Ok.It's just the world religion that believes in spirits but not in God. I think that's unique.
>>42827694>let me focus on a religion that comes from and is primarily practiced in one corner of the world and ignore everywhere else
>>42827770Read the post above yours, Anon.
>>42827774I'm gonna touch you
>>42827600What is god for Buddhists?
>>42827803Physical reality/physics/everything. Buddhists call what you would call the natural laws as God but with the additional element of mind. God is not an idol or entity rather its the whole thing, of which we are a part of. If you asked a Buddhist what is God he would tell you "I am God" or "Everything" or "God is all."
>>42827798Stroke it gently
>>42827832but ipso facto I don't know any buddhists
>>42827520What do you mean by God? Reality itself is God. All laws and principles which govern the world, natural and supernatural, are God. Therefor, you can't believe in anything without believing in God.
>>42827714Yes.They really really do.That's all of Buddhism.
>>42828970(Not OP) I'm tired of Godists smearing their God concept all over everything in preparation for running a motte and bailey with it. No, reality itself is not what most people have in mind when they talk about God. There's a reason why we have different words for the two concepts.
>>42829464>No, reality itself is not what most people have in mind when they talk about God. There's a reason why we have different words for the two concepts.Uhm actually sweety, those people are just in a lower state of awareness who haven't yet put 2 and 2 together.
>>428295072 and 2 makes 4, not God. Sorry Godist, you've been foiled again.
>>42829567His innocence>Gone
>>42827575>>42827600Misrepresenting buddhism
>>42827832>What is god for Buddhists?>Physical reality/physics/everything. Buddhists call what you would call the natural laws as GodThat's utter bs, btw.
>>42827520I have experienced spirits, even communicated with them. I have never had an experience with an entity i would call a god.
