I've never watched any documentaries or read about Bob Lazar yet, is this any good?
>>42837683It's an interesting and grounded watch. Bob Lazar has been criticized from a few directions (his educational background/false records, something about a brothel he had in Las Vegas? might be others) but it's a pretty compelling account. Nothing in the vein of retardation as painting him to be an "antihero" or "the chosen one," more like a "here's what I experienced/what happened."
>>42837683No.Buy an ad, Bob.
>>42837683In the 90s we already knew he was a liar. Didn't he himself admit it at some point? I seem to remember him being like "Ok that part was a lie, b-but that other part is real and shit."
i have an honest, no trolling question. why does this board despise bob lazar so much. like, ive heard the opinions, but WHY? no one ever states a clear reason why.
>>42838634Most parsimonious answer is that it's the deepstate trying to discredit him by posting negatively about him hereThere isn't a particularly good criticism of him
>>42838634bob lazar is a liar. his whole story is bullshit. every single word, bullshit. he was debunked a decade ago and people refuse to believe he's a liar because they're idiots. you're asking why non-idiots hate a bullshitter? isn't it obvious.
he checked radiation badges at the gates of an army base. everything else is bullshit. he ran a brothel in vegas ffs. he's a sociopathic liar
>>42838691ive done my homework on bob before. a friend if mine was obsessed with him, so i went down the lazar rabbithole a while ago. im aware of your theory aswell. i was just hoping that someone would have, like, a logical response. instead of an emotional response. ive yet to read anything other than the typical replies.
>>42839725google it. im not going to condense a full debunk of bob bullshit lazar for you. there are dozens of videos and websites that debunk him. i'm assuming you haven't read a single one. he has given ZERO proof of his claim, yet you complain that nobody has given you evidence to debunk him? debunk WHAT? he has offered nothing to dispute. he's a con-man selling books and documentaries to people looking for aliens.
>>42838634Have you tried watching his interviews? He's an obvious liar and has switched his story multiple times. I 100% believe in the UAP phenomena but there's no way Lazar would still be alive if he was telling the truth. He's also collaborating with Jesse Michels who is funded by Peter Thiel, going on a fucking tour of the country and doing speeches, for profit btw. Here's a good video showing all of Lazar's contradictions and lies. The channel has a lot of good archived stories about the UFO/UAP topic as a whole.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvNWQhc5oSo
>>42839725>ive done my homework on bob beforethis took me 1 second on google search
>>42839819>AI slopI agree that Lazar is a lying larper but he should at least do a deeper dive than that, Christ.
>>42839821my point was, if the person had "done his homework" he would've had alarm bells ringing immediately. lazar has been thoroughly debunked
>>428386344chan can't be censored easily or shut down, so they make it a shit hole by constantly posting uninteresting threads, or discrediting ppl who share info they don't want spread.
>>42837683>Doesn't like attention>Just wants to live his life quietly>Appears on Joe Rogan and every other prominent YouTube channel that studies the subjectThat Bob Lazar?>Also, don't ask about the blackmail brothel, I'm totally not a spook
>>42839725Best doc on Bob that I have found, and it's always hard to find in the algorithm. The fact that it has so few views means that either it's suppressed on purpose or people are just happy with a narrative.https://youtu.be/Jl2356IOTrY
>>42840018no worries, im an old fag, im aware of this. ive also done plenty of reading about him. as i stated above, im not asking anyone to educate me. im asking people, to put into their own words, why they dislike lazar. just a few simple sentences, that has some worth, rather than, "debunked, you idiot, amirite?" im not being argumentative, im simply asking, why? im not asking for paragraphs, summarizing the videos, just a few sentences, in your own words. this always stirs up the hornets nest.
>>42840317One of the things I find most curious about Bob Lazar is that in his older age he doesn't go into near as much detail about how any of the technology he supposedly worked on, worked. Compared to the video he made when he was younger it's as if he's forgotten a lot of shit, which is odd. I don't hate him though, for me he's just an anomaly that may become relevant later or not.
>>42840339noted. thank you for contributing, man. much appreciated.
>>42840339He said in an old video that the 115 was layered and then machined into the pyramid shape that went into the reactor. I want to know how he knew it was machined. Were there machine marks from an end mill? If so, what diameter? Do the ays use 1/2” carbide end mills? Why say machined unless you have evidence of machining, and if you have evidence what specifically?
>>42840541>End millMore likely cast to rough shape and finished with a shell mill, but even more likely he's making it the fuck up
>>42840545Whatever it is, I want to ask him why he said machined specifically
>>42837683I have listened to alot of interviews of this guy and to be honoust, what he tells doest feel (off) and could make sence. But, clearly I can not fact check hes story myself so thats that.
>>42840274His first interview was with George Knapp in 1989, then Art Bell in 1992, then he mostly disappeared until the interview with Rogan 27 years later. He's never been a part of the lecture circuit or anything.
>>42840663He's a grifter, George Knapp's first interview with him only happened because George's scheduled guest cancelled and he needed a fill in. John Lear suggested Bob because of a claim he saw UFOs while working in the desert. Guy is a fucking chemistry nerd whose wife cucked him so he bigged himself up with a story of working on UFOs and because of George and John Lear's credibility, it blew out of proportion. George Knapp really betrayed the whole space by propping this faggot up. William Cooper was right about Lear and lazar
Now he's doing a tv showAgain But his motivations surely are mysterious, saar
>>42838732>his whole story is bullshit. every single word, bullshitArea 51 is a real place and nobody now disputes that workers flew there out of Vegas. Government didn't admit anything was at the site until 1998 and didn't admit aircraft were tested there until 2013, confirming what "conspiracy theorists" already knew. 1982 newspaper article says Bob was a physicist at Los Alamos and his name is said to be in the phone directory from then. Who knows if Lazar actually worked at Area 51, but he did help inform the public of it's existence when most of the mainstream media ignored or downplayed it.
Yeah, have some fun. Then read and watch more from him and see how full of shit he is and an obvious liar. I've been to Area 51. It is what the government it is and was. There are no aliens. The truth is kinda cool, but not particularly interesting, and is all public.
>>42840786>newspaper says so>according to BobNigger do you really
>>42840786Nobody outside UFO circles ever heard about Bob until Joe Rogan's pathetic softline interview, and nobody inside UFO circles had any real doubts about Area 51 so the fact that he mentioned it means literally nothing. Area 51 was well in the mainstream UFO consciousness by 1989 when he did the interview. It's fucking pathetic even AI links it to Bob Lazar, which just further cements that he glows in the dark
WHY WOULD HE LIE???Is he selling books or something? What is the main reason?
>>42840877>Area 51 was well in the mainstream UFO consciousness by 19891980s "mainstream" UFO world was a lot different than today. Only the most tuned in nerds had heard of Area 51. The books, a 1995 arcade game, movies and more came after Lazar. Combine the Vegas news coverage of Lazar with tabloids like the Daily Mail, TV shows like a Current Affair and Inside Edition - it adds up to just as much exposure in the 90s for Lazar as later with Rogan.
>>42840715>He's a grifterHe's a weird one then who has done very few interviews in 37 years and disappears for many years at a time. Compare with Greer who has done 1,000s of interviews, hosts his own retreats, etc.>>42840860>It is what the government it is and wasThe government says it is a TOP SECRET Air Force facility, so by definition what goes on there is classified.
>>42839819The 'records' thing is extremely easy for the gov to falsify, it's not proof of anything. The scientific side is probably the best criticism and mainly hinges on element 115 and there somehow being a stable isotope of it, which hinges on the theorised 'island of stability' where an exotic, heavy isotope of it may be stable
>>42837683I ask AI about this: If Beavis worked at Area 51 like the famous whistleblower Bob Lazar, he would claim he saw flying saucers powered by "element 115" because it makes cool noises, while Butt-Head would call him a butt-munch
>>42837683Just finished watching it. It's a good doc with scale CGI-recreations of the rooms he saw in S4 including the interior of the craft. Still don't know if he's telling the truth but it was an interesting watch.
>>42837683>Bob LazarWhy doesn’t he ever mention this again? Even Bigelow mentioned it on Rogan.https://youtu.be/gqE10TWp61o
>>42839819> Logical Flaw: they scrubbed his accrediting credentials, but left his discrediting credentials intact!Wow, such flaw, much logic
>>42839819Also lol there is a theorized island of stability around where moscovium lies on the periodic table. The LLM response is ignorant of isotopes apparently, of which there are many for each element, and each of the several isotopes of mosocvium we've produced have had increasingly longer half-lifes. This is why you don't depend solely on LLM search summaries, kids.
>>42840930https://unitednuclear.com/area-51-c-86/
>>42838634the kuiper belt completely destroys the alien griftif still you believe in green aliens after learning about the belt that surrounds our planets you are actually retardedim not asking for proof,im not asking for tales,im asking you to learn about the univese
>>42844326The beings find it very easy to keep people like you in a trance during their routine visits Asking you, now, to remain conscious while they are in your house next time. Once you are seeing them you will be able to explain to the people who are sleepwalking during the visits. They will be just as unaware as you are now.
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>>42837683>they’ve made four seasons of this shit already Kys bob
>>42845952Season 4S4I see what you did there
>>42840541He said he smuggled some of the fuel out of area 51 too, allegedly, but no one has seen it? Why not?
>>42844609How routine are the visits?
>>42848733Someone had previously broke into his house and during an interview he was asked "Did they take anything?" and he simply said, "Yes." So the implication is that it was "reacquired."
>>42848796pretty convenient
>>42848865I think the greatest criticism in this case would be keeping it anywhere he'd frequent. Exotic material would be pretty easy to sweep for when they already know who took it. The headscratcher for me is why he's still alive when all these other scientists are getting got left and right while our agencies are just like "ell oh ell dunno lmao".
>>42848919could be some kind of psyop to disseminate disinformation within the ufo community?
>>42848762Individual visits are two or three times per week or month, occasionally by various means of contact or communication technologies with occasional time, usually a few months, where they leave automated, or remotely operated, equipment doing surveillance of the consciousness of the target humans.Not all visits are physical.. their versions of communication technologies are capable of extracting the consciousness of the individual to engage with it in various manners.. from out of body perspective to temporary installment into avatar bodies, to attachment to another existing being. Most people are unable to comprehend what they have seen and dismiss the confusing memories as dream. They have been involved in the human presence since the evolutionary beginnings of the subspecies.
>>42849041>psyop to disseminate disinformationI really don't think it's this. If it's anything negatively confirming, Bob's just full of shit. Look at how divisive he is here on /x/ alone. If """they""" wanted a psyop of disinfo they picked the wrong horse; people already distrust him for all sorts of reasons. It's possible that he already dumped his payload and "damage" is already done, any retributive act would only lend credence to his story. But Los Alamos and their missing scientist problem adds a shade of complexity to that in that they're literally stacking bodies of high profile people. What did they know that they didn't want to get out if it's not what Bob and other whistleblowers already disclosed?
>>42837683Yep
>>42840930He does sell merch but I think its possible he might have been mind controlled which is why he gets headaches during recall and gets on all the glowie podcasts.
>>42849519how do you know this? why don't you forget like everyone else?
>>42852848It's a long story. Are you seriously asking? I posted a brief overview of the events in a previous thread.Why are all the other humans unaware of their own existence beyond what they consciously choose to be aware of?It is available to every human to overcome the technology that has been preventing them from being aware of their own memories. It is still 'just' technology even though far advanced. The problem is that people are not looking to discern the presence of what they are not already aware of.Don't you have any strange memories of some situation that you had when you were young that didn't make sense even at the time they happened?My first time fully conscious while with the beings had been shortly before I turned 4. One of the beings thought out loud into my mind that " you - need - to - see - this "I use to have partial memory during the visits even as a kid. Walked home from school in second grade and had a bizarre encounter that I could not exactly see clearly in my mind but I was tremendously excited about.. and was trying to tell anyone that would listen.. finally got my mother's younger brother who had formerly been a Marine to take notice that I was attempting to report something real and he stopped everything to interrogate me on the subject. I was not able to see the memory clearly but I was very emotionally excited about it.. he had me attempt to go through it step by stepI had taken a shortcut through a field and gone near the trunk of a big tree in the middle of the field.. and then, I was guessing based on what little I could remember visually, maybe I had stepped on a stick and caused a balled up snake to pop up in front of me.. and then I ran home. I remembered a ball moving in the air and the snake like eyes.. but I noticed later that there was no big tree there even though I remembered being under the shadow of one.. visually I had glimpses but the technology was making them incomprehensible.People usually forget
>>42840860Why were you at area 51?
