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I am surrounded by an insane amount of people who are corrupted by evil yet every time I say this people say I am the problem. Because of this I came up with a formula for calculating evil and turns out I am in the right.
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>>42838125
What is the formula, OP?
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It turns out operation isn't one step, it is many steps combined.

(I should now be operating at max intelligence).

Lots will be done today, including:
winning the war,
securing our people,
setting up a school,
making a power structure through training simulations.
beginning our civilization
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>>42838131
>>42838132
It goes by a gradient scale. For simplicity let's call good "light" and evil "darkness". Strong intense emotions leads to entitlement because feeling good about it makes one think its good but actually leads one to darkness, that is why emotional regulation is important. Over indulging and consuming the world around you like food, porn and video games also leads one to darkness. Basically anything that leads slowly to an entitlement because of its ease of access without a fight for it. And entitlement leads to darkness for two reasons, you feel entitled to take something away from somebody and pleasure pacifies the mind into not doing any actions.

The main concept you have to recognize is this. The light is creation, the darkness is destruction. One can not exist without the other. To create on this realm you need to destroy. However while there are always shadows with light, pitch darkness is where no light shines and could exist without the light. Ideally, you can shape the light itself, change it into something that benefits everyone.

The second thing to take note of is the concept of goodness or the "light" itself. While it is true that you should help others you need prudence and awareness when helping other people. There is only so much energy and resources you can give, and there are evil people out there who will take advantage of that. You need to understand the people you are trying to help and in return they have to help either you or the community as a whole eventually or else its just shining light into an empty dark void that will just consume you. Love is a spiral.

1/3?
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>>42838177
The last one is hate and violence. Many people today are extremely hateful and violent. And while there are times when one could consider it righteous or even necessary those thoughts and actions in themselves are still the darkness even if it's used for a good cause. Hate and violence is still a core function of destruction even if it's used to destroy other things. It still leads one into darkness as it becomes easier to destroy things you dislike and even becomes an entitlement.


Now, we are into the second part.

As you may know, this is a world of illusions. But you know what that is? It's people who come up with their own functions of what is good and evil, but what they think is good and evil may not be the true light and darkness. Light benefits all, darkness is what swallows up and destroys this world, and many people want that light for themselves. Just because they think are doing something good doesn't mean they are doing something good, it's an illusionary act. Same thing with bad. Because they do not know what true good and evil is, in a way they are still stuck in the Garden of Eden. I timeless limbo.

It is only once we truly know what is light and darkness do we leave the garden. It is only then that we could possibly reach a true reality and not be stuck in this fake world. And this brings us to an issue. Every human life has a spark of light in it, a spark of good. So even if you were to destroy evil you are also still destroying that possible spark of light if ever faint. I am not saying this is hippie "we are all one". I am saying that killing a million criminals could eventually count up towards killing a single innocent life because of that faint light in all of us, plus the casualization of destroying something that will lead us unto darkness.

2/3?
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>>42838125
We often see evil in others because we refuse to see the same evil that lurks inside ourselves.
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not one formulaic calculation was made btw
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>>42838208
Now, once you do remove and destroy something you have a lot of darkness inside you, it becomes an empty hole both in yourself and in reality. This is why revolutions are garbage. You need to steadily create, bring in some light in. Other wise people are nihilists. When people have nothing left and everything they know is gone they fall into darkness themselves, seeking temporary pleasures and distractions, indulging in strong emotions creating more darkness as they consume everything around them and they justify it to themselves why this is ok for them to do it and why its bad for others to take it away from them.

And when you are empty and following a course of consumption like an insect, you become easy to control which just further pushes you into the illusionary world unable to save yourself. It is only through silence and reflection, as in fasting and preventing yourself from consuming can we reflect what is wrong within us.

The more we create useful things that brings in more light. However one must be aware that the creation can still be used for darkness and often times requires destruction to make. That is why emotional bonds are some of the purist forms of light possible. And because light and darkness resides in our souls some are more resistant to those concepts then others.

Creation + type of creation
Destruction + type of destruction
True world adds a multiplier bonus for true awareness
Illusionary world penalizes with a division bonus as even if you do good, you are doing it because you are taught it and not truly learned
While it is up to the individual to use said creation for light or darkness, a varying modifier is still placed for the first chain of events it causes (lack of awareness penalty if you will).

3/3

If you notice any flaws, please tell me so I can revise.
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>>42838231
This is a philosophy but not an algorithm. An algorithm is like an iterative mathematical process.
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>>42838305
I suppose saying formula was a little misleading as people would expect hard numbers. The issue is that a lot of said formula would be unknown numbers because of exactly how much a person could resist darkness and total awareness of just how much darkness and light an action or creation would do. With a mathematical formula you know all the numbers save for an X variable or two. With real life you need to see all the puzzle pieces yourself and know for certain that is all there is to it.
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"The first mistake is to not understand the law of karma and believe that others are the problem."
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>>42838378
This. If you get raped and beaten it's probably your own fault and you deserve it.
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>>42838125
welcome to selfish hell
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>>42838320
not really expecting them, just humoured the bait. its a law of nature that schizos never provide any novel math of their own, and if they do, it doesnt add up

regarding what youre saying tho youre just naming a bunch of random things like entitlement light darkness good bad evil porn food video games pleasure creation destruction and arbitrarily attaching moral judgements to them when in reality its in your head. you even admit that theres nothing wrong with hatred and sometimes its even "good" which is (subjectively) correct

it would be significantly easier if you simply took an existing moral framework such as "do not kill", "do not steal", "do not rape" etc and then pointed out all the violations thereof. it would skip all the ramblings and be more direct. problem of course is that nobody cares and people will continue to contradict that arbitrary moral framework (rightfully so) which i know you won't address
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>>42838125
They are clamped, vaccinated, and circumcised.
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>>42838406
being beaten and raped is phenomenal because it provides you with feedback that what you've been doing is horribly wrong. imagine a world where someone who deserves to be beaten and raped doesn't get beaten and raped. lots of retards seek to undermine nature but luckily they lack the power to do so
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For those that say everything is relative, they affirm a position of neutrality that does absolutely nothing but relegate one’s identity to that of the unconscious. If we can’t identify with our own experiences, and if we can’t make our own judgments as to what should (and shouldn’t) continue to be experienced by others, then we are effectively living in the darkness as OP was describing
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>>42838406
fr fr no cap
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>>42838540
saying everything is relative is exactly to make your own judgements. objective morality means i submit to a book
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>>42838434
>it would be significantly easier if you simply took an existing moral framework such as "do not kill", "do not steal", "do not rape" etc
That would be easier and saying things is easy. My goal was to try and explain why those things are bad and how it leads to corrupting yourself, and that self corruption creates a worse world for yourself and others, and when creating a worse world for others how it will loop back onto you.

My goal was trying to not attach arbitrary moral judgements, that way when people try to justify why it's ok to kill this guy how it still leads to them falling down to evil.

Perhaps I should construct an "easy" explanation first then delve deeply with the more complex matters. This isn't a random arbitrary moral framework, the more somebody does or feel something they are training themselves for that action or feeling to be normalized. Normalization leads to entitlements and to try and use that action on more and more problems and issues when it shouldn't be simply because it's what you know.

As above, as below.

>>42838406
There are people here who believe everything bad that happens to you is something you asked for. That said a lot of people do end up doing things they wanted only to regret it later without realizing they are the cause of it.

>>42838378
>Others are not the problem
Ok influence of evil is the problem. But people still willingly play along.
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>>42838540
That's the big issue, isn't it? The self identity and ego of what we know and think. Unable to put those biases aside and simply observe the world as is. Emotion and ego have their purpose, it's our safety net of existence but it could also blind and harm us.
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>>42838586
every animals avoids pain by nature, no explanation required. you didnt lay a groundwork for making moral judgements. throughout the whole text its implied that overindulgence, entitlement, stealing and inaction are bad. your first job is to question those things and find a way to establish them as bad. it reads like "porn is bad because it leads to darkness which leads to entitlement which is bad because you are stealing..." ignoring the fact that its a random assemblage of words, you havent established how you determine that any of those things are bad or what it means for something to be bad. also replacing the word "bad" with "darkness" is another unnecessary layer of obfuscation.
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>>42838125
>am surrounded by an insane amount of people who are corrupted by evil
You should probably just move then.
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>>42838607
i can observe that my carpet is read but unless i somehow interpret it and apply some kind of personal bias then its a worthless piece of data. hence why 90% of our surroundings get auto-trashed by the brain by default.
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>>42838630
>find a way to establish them as bad.
I did but as others noted it seems like it was lost in translation. The more you do those things that are destructive it trains the brain to do those things more often. Destruction does not create, and soon enough there will nothing left to take and because you are satisfied there is no reason to create. It's a net loss of energy.
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>>42838661
why is destruction bad, why is a net loss of energy bad? what net loss of energy anyway? can i see it, sense it, touch it? is kicking a cat bad? if i kick one cat, will i kick another? if i kick 1000000 cats, will i evaporate all my energy? all the cat#s energy? nigga
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im insanely corrupted by evil because i do things that are destructive because my skin color is dark as night because im entitled because i hate???

also first law of thermodynamics as a kek
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>>42838668
>pretending to be retarded
You are being deconstructive right now to remove meaning and not adding anything of substance. That in of itself is evil.
>Prove it!
Go lock yourself in an empty bunker for a week and find out.
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>>42838731
so any 4chan post you find disagreeable is destructive evil and therefore hitler which is dark

also i already told you every animal avoids pain that has nothing to do with darkness leading to evil leading to entitlement leading to hitler leading to disagreeable 4chan posts

why do you pretend to be retarded?
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>>42838731
YOU CANT HAVE EVIL WITHOUT GOD…

YOU ARE NOT THE ONE WHO SETS THE RULES…

WITHOUT GOD PEOPLE WHO SELL ONLY HAVE THE MEANS TO SELL ITEMS BECAUSE THEY WERE LUCKY AND STOLE THEM FROM SOMEONE ELSE…

TO HAVE TO BUY ITEMS TO SURVIVE LEADS TO ONLY A ROAD OF EVIL…

SO STEALING WITHOUT GOD IS NOT EVIL AS YOU STOLE FROM THEM TO HAVE THE ITEM THEY WANT IN THE FIRST PLACE YOU ARE BEING EVIL FORCING THEM TO BUY IT…

ONLY GOD IS ABLE TO ALLOW FOR A MARKETPLACE WITHOUT GOD EVERY ITEM CAME FROM THEFT…

YOD HEH VAV HEH

YHVH
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>>42838786
>proving my point
>ignoring my counter argument
That settles that, then.

>>42838822
I'm not setting rules, I am just discovering them.
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>>42838832
YOU CAN'T DISCOVER RULES YOU HAVE TO MAKE THEM UP FOR YOUR BENEFIT NEVER SOMEONE ELSE'S…

SO YOU ONLY LIE AND SAY YOU DISCOVERED THAT WHOEVER STEALS GOES TO JAIL AND YOU THE OWNER OF THE ITEM YOU STOLE CREATES THE GATE TO HIDE SO NO ONE ELSE CAN DO WHAT YOU DID WHICH IS STEAL…

WITHOUT GOD YOU WHO SELL ARE ALL EVIL….

YOD HEH VAV HEH

YHVH
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>>42838832
you solved evil i now concede that i am corrupted by evil and that you are not the problem gg wp you are right
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>>42838858
>Everything is fake, good and evil don't exist and everything is up to personal subjective interpretation
>Ok, I personally believe in an absolute good and evil
>No, you can't say or believe in that!
It's fun watching you demons squirm.
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>>42838921
w0t
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>>42838125
Yeah of course evil would say you are the problem. I know what you mean OP everyone is profoundly evil but thinks they're good.
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>>42838320
Don’t listen to other anon. Your construct seems like a good model - at the very least a model that will elicit speculation and reflection. I’ve been trying to do roughly the same sort of thing. We build these rough hypotheses, test them out in our own lives, and then see if they make the muddy window a bit clearer. They might not be exact, but for now, they don’t have to be. And then retards come along and tear them down. Keep going.
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>>42838305
His model is one that is literally tested in an iterative manner by its very nature you retard
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>>42838177
While i respect your grift, i differ on two points. First, the necessity or validity of concepts such as good and evil. This is just human nonsense and you have already stated as much. Secondly, i'd say it's best to take pragmatism and such ideas with a grain of salt. God is insane. This is an efficient machine, yes, but it produces terror- not life. Not reading all of your shit. Too long. Also nta.
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>>42838226
/thread
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>>42838406
Based based.
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>>42838607
No such thing as the world 'as is'.
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>>42838630
>>42838668
Based.
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>>42838125
it's sad. they just want to be able to love their slavemasters.
https://rumble.com/v4qz6rl-the-evil-of-the-world-is-what-makes-you-crazy.html?e9s=src_v1_cbl%2Csrc_v1_ucp_v
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YOU are the problem.
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>>42838125
Observe, as OP CREATES discourse, but DESTROYS peoples' time! Will he through these actions train himself to make the same thread tomorrow, next week? Will we too be back every time? Is time a flat circle? Has this thread moved the world towards light or darkness, if only by a small amount?
As for this formula, do you OP, apply it to the actions of others, or just the world as you experience it? It seems like a formula where you can only make guesses on the values would be somewhat limited in terms of usefulness. While it makes sense to be aware of various behavioral pitfalls, when it comes to the reasonings of others, you can rarely know the full story.
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>>42840333
I am still keeping this going and refining it. Things that make you think and reflect is more important then a straight answer.

>>42840347
"Grift" "grifter"
Is this the new buzzword you zoomers use to discredit people you don't like? I outline what true good "light" is and what true evil "darkness" is.

>>42840477
I am currently working on that next. As of right now the formula only applies to the self. I am working on a system where the actions of one will affect the outer self as well. It is possible to do good to oneself, even good to another community but still take away from another.
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>>42840426
thank you for your input DoD member 357



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