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Do any *actual* regular Freemasons post here? I've been one for three years
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>>42843107
Clandestine here sup nigger
how the oaths treating you
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these ""free"" chuds dont even smoke bulls
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBJc8KrSWIU
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I went to a freemason sponsored occult market at the temple. It was only sad/crazy old people. More witches than men but all really old. They cant get new recruits
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>>42843154
The important members aren't publically masons.
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>>42843125
Good. You're not a real mason btw. For your sake I hope you're at least the self taught kind of clandestine and not the kind who gets scammed out of his money
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>>42843192
i know ma better then you son
now lick my two balls and suck my cain
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how's it feel knowing you got scammed out of your money by melqart
t. malakh
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>>42843197
Doubtful
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>>42843197
Cont, you are missing out on one of the major draws of freemasonry since you can't even enjoy fellowship with other masons or take offices and responsibilities. You could still probably be one if you wanted
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>>42843154
(((They))) Don't want new recruits. The need for a group like this is not there. They will close up shop.
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>family gathering
>starts talking about shriners and freemasons
>"gee, they are really culty"
>"And weird!"
>never actually go into detail about what they actually think about them
I hate normies so fucking much
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>>42843107
Imagine thinking the masons are something special. If you have access to power, then you can answer my question. Who am I, really? If you are someone with access to power then that should be easy to answer.

Answer quickly and with confidence, this is the most important question you've ever been asked in your empty little life :)
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>>42843230
Thinking masons = access to power is normgroid conspiritard thinking
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>>42843221
>You could still probably be one if you wanted
id gladly knock thrice if one could even acknowledge their own craft
yet alone the global conquest that hasn't been favorable since the world wars

Hell even the offshoots like The Golden Dawn teach half truths twisted with nonsense

Where are my fellow Alef Bets that would be a group id be interested in fellowship with.
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The only "power" you're likely to encounter is a business owner who is a mason hiring you over other equally qualified applicants because you are also a mason
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Jesters are the most interesting masons
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>>42843247
unless you're nobility and get into off shoots like the ancient eight
rings within rings
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>>42843243
I'll give you this, most of the masons i know are baby boomers who have no interest in anything remotely esoteric or "occult". But i have met some cool people too. Its good to go to functions like table lodges where there are usually grand lodge visitors and program speakers
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>>42843270
yah but what do those grand visitors even know
transmuting the dragon of the snake and cow into the ram
seems like a completely lost art

but social programming engineering via idolatry sadly wasn't
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>>42843298
>yah but what do those grand visitors even know
Usually a lot. Most grand lodges have a historian and orator
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>>42843298
Also I have a question for you, if you don't take an obligation with witnesses how can anyone trust you? This is why regular masons don't communicate masonically with clandestine/irregular ones
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>>42843320
Well, one of the reasons
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>>42843320
>Also I have a question for you, if you don't take an obligation with witnesses how can anyone trust you?
when has that ever stopped a liar how can anyone trust you or the masons in general
oaths are more for keeping secrets seeding half truths aka lies and creating layers
then for gate keeping profane imo

like i use my intuition nous and strategy logos over blind faith

especially with how things have been going the whole world is like that episode of spongebob where patrick tries to hide garys poop
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>>42843338
>oaths are more for keeping secrets seeding half truths aka lies and creating layers
>then for gate keeping profane imo

Well I'm sorry sir but your opinion is wrong. It is exactly for gatekeeping, and its working.
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>>42843229
They are right though
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Its called guarding the west gate
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>>42843341
But what do they/you mean by "culty"? To be accurate every religious/spiritually tinged group is a "cult". Secular groups and political parties are also cults.
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>>42843344
then explain the fall of western society from the aim
to miss the mark is sin
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accelerationism?
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>>42843348
he means they arent left
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>>42843221
Nta but as a teacher on my own right i met my local masons and was not impressed
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>>42843378
every mason ive spoken with has been a chud
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Zoog actually is, believe it or not. High-ranking as well. Never tells anyone shit about it, though. Par for the course when it comes to goths and their beliefs.

https://youtu.be/vY14M3ufW10
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>>42843378
I dont disagree with you. What did you find most unimpressive about them? Like I said earlier most of them are normie christian boomers/silent gen who joined in the fraternity boom in the 50s-70s
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>>42843107
You're a dumb shabbos goy. Son of a widowed whore. Servant of pedophiles. Building a dystopian world to come. Great work.
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>>42843351
>>42843400
you guys dont like flock cameras
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>>42843400
You are an authoritarian nazi who openly wants to kill or imprison anyone he disagrees with on anything, so I don't really give much credence to anything you have to say
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>>42843412
It's quite telling who you choose to defend and why you're an enemy of mankind.
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>>42843412
>You are an authoritarian nazi who openly wants to kill or imprison anyone he disagrees with on anything
what an odd projection howd you get that inspection
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>>42843427
>who you choose to defend

Freedom of thought and freedom of conscience? Yeah I defend it because I am a good person
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>>42843438
>Freedom of thought and freedom of conscience?
dont oaths bind ones freedom
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>>42843400
>says a bunch of nazi shit
>gets asshurt when someone calls him a nazi

>"its national socialist, kike!"
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>>42843442
No, you freely choose to take them. Its like enlisting in the military or becoming a police officer or doctor.
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>>42843447
nta but hitler was a shabbos goy
thats why he didnt encamp/kill the rothchilds
and why one of the first SS his Chauffer was Jewish
that and his speech cordinator/drama teacher amongst others
cant say ash kin nazi
without
nazi
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>>42843451
eh all of those things are more like zions bdsm
protect and serve ((Them)) no matter what ;)
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>>42843459
So why did Hitler ban freemasonry and kill/imprison freemasons
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>>42843466
So you think doctors should stop taking the hippocratic oath? Do you even know what that is?
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>>42843467
what is a whole burnt offering כָּלִיל
who is anu what is anusim
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>>42843476
>>42843344
>>42843351
>>42843459
I'll give you a hint they put the W in West Side
"Crypto-Jews (Anusim) historically utilized subtle hand gestures, such as the priestly blessing gesture (similar to the Vulcan salute or a "W" shape) or specific hand placements in portraits, to identify fellow Jews and maintain their faith in secret while appearing to conform to Catholicism during the Inquisition. These gestures were often subtle adaptations of religious symbols to evade persecution."

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7233791/
https://daratheodora.com/2017/11/01/mysterious-gesture/
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/338457261_Secret_hand_gestures_in_paintings
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>>42843467
It's funny how countries that ban and outlaw central banks and freemasonry will be ganged up on and when they've been defeated, central banks and freemasonry is quickly reintroduced.
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>>42843524
its weird how those banks and groups also get stronger like a phoenix when this happens...
just saiyan zaiyon
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>>42843438
>freedom of conscience?
You should of course not be burdened by guilt and shame for wanting to rape babies and other depravity.
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>>42843535
Resistance is artificial and futile, just give up!
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>>42843544
its like a corporation the normies at the bottom are pretty good guys just ignorant
its the guys at top that are usually psychopaths
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>>42843535
That's how the Jew works.
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>>42843552
nah most systems are a scam this world is fake and gay
wake up and realize i am

or shoot your local elite aka walstreet/washington
not a school or mall or theater or rave kek
or church/mosque but never a synagogue oddly enough
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>>42843544
>>42843554
>I'm not a freemason
>let me tell you all about what the "highest levels" of freemasonry are like

Dunning Kruger
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>>42843570
that's just how hierarchy's work pics related
>>42843125

>>42843564
the OT is pretty funny
God blesses the jew
jew gets lazy/greedy
jew blames gods for ills that come from this
god sends a messenger to suffer for/redeem the jew
God blesses the jew
jew gets lazy/greedy
jew blames gods for ills that come from this
god sends a messenger to suffer for/redeem the jew
rinse repeat
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>>42843580
My point is I actually know these people and you dont, yet you are making wild unsubstantiated claims about them
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secret judaism clubs for the goy
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>>42843600
you know the guys at the top i doubt that
rings within rings like the skull and bones on your apron
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>>42843623
The skull and bones are a reminder of your death, memento mori. Not whatever sinister thing you imagine it is.

Who are these "higher ups" you speak of? Usually retards on /x/ say its the 33rd degree of the scottish rite, but I personally know many people who have attained that and they are ordinary people. Its an honorary degree you are awarded for exceptional service to masonry.
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>>42843644
just ordinary people, what's the point then why take oaths
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>>42843675
Are doctors no longer ordinary people because they took an oath? I already went over this with you
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>>42843339
>gatekeeping
Just call yourselves cowards and be done with it.
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>>42843459
>why one of the first SS his Chauffer was Jewish
It's actually quite simple and ironic. För starter, one of Hitler's early childhood friends was Jewish, he later wrote a book "my friend Hitler" or something like that.
The doctor who treated his mother's cancer was Jewish and he expressed his eternal gratitude for trying to save her. He also helped to poor for lower prices or even free if they couldn't pay. Hitler gave him protection and free pass to leave Austria after the anschluss, when other jews had their properties confiscated. Hitler called him and honorary Jew and said that there wouldn't be a Jewish Question if they were all like him.

Hitler said himself that he had a resistance towards antisemitism when he was introduced to the Jewish Question.
But as he wrote "Gradually I began to hate them", as he came to understand the problem with international Jewry. On a personal level he could still see good in people and he also valued loyalty above all else.

Hitler bodyguard, and chauffeur, who was loyal from the very beginning to the end in the bunker, Maurice Misch's great grandfather was Jewish. So by racial laws he wasn't even a Mischling, but considered Aryan.
This became know when the SS was digging into his ancestry and Himmler wanted to throw him out of the SS.
Hitler intervened because Maurice was a cofounder of the SS, member #2, only after Hitler who held #1. Himmler was member #168.
He was also the 93rd member to join DAP in 1919, before it became NSDAP.
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>>42843689
Whats cowardly about not throwing pearls before swine?
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>>42843684
doctors aren't ordinary people they also arent the people at the top and you dont know them

a doctors oath isnt to keep secrets
you also never addressed the failure of the western gate
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>>42843698
>you also never addressed the failure of the western gate
Do you think the symbolism of the west gate has to do with the concept of western society? It doesnt
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>>42843704
then you dont know the i of i am
you clearly aren't worth your weight in salt
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>>42843712
Tell me why the worshipful master sits in the east, if you're so smart.
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>>42843238
Thinking it is some philosopher book club is also normalfag thinking
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>>42843729
I personally think freemasonry is a school of magic
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>>42843693
Correction, his early childhood friend was not Jewish. But he had Jewish friends who helped him when he was "homeless" in Vienna.
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>>42843726
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>>42843748
Nope. And you actually don't even need to be a Freemason to know the reason, its very simple and easy to find. Sirius appears in the south east btw
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>>42843511
There seems to be a good share of crypto jews in the "eastern" world as well, like the Dönme
pic related if you know
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>>42843726
>the worshipful master sits in the east
chocma
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>>42843767
this shit goes back to the invention of spelling
and seeded all culture and religion as we know it
shits just really gotten out of hand
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>>42843770
Good answer
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>>42843777
self checked
pic related
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>>42843780
the best answer only the greatest answer
when i answer questions everyone's like wow so wise and so great
hes like shlomo and hiram of tyre
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>>42843805
And just like that I think you're a retard again. Nothing remotely masonic about blumpf
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>>42843820
youre on the outer ring my big nosed friend
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>>42843825
So who is this inner ring and how do you know about them despite not being a mason?
>I read leo taxil
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>>42843845
everybody knows about zion these days
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>>42843258
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>>42843759
I guess you have to be more than a 3rd degree before they tell you that huh.

>In ancient Egypt, Sirius rose visibly in the eastern sky right before dawn (known as the heliacal rising). This exact event marked the annual flooding of the Nile and the start of the new year.
>Masons traditionally look toward the Worshipful Master, who sits "in the East" to open the lodge and enlighten the brethren. Symbolically, Sirius is the ultimate celestial anchor of that light, representing spiritual rebirth and the transition out of darkness.

>While the general ritual of mainstream Lodges attributes the "Star in the East" or "Blazing Star" to the Sun or the Star of Bethlehem, higher-degree Masonic esotericism specifically identities it as Sirius. This connection bridges astronomical patterns with ancient mystical philosophy
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>>42844051
I'm also a 32nd degree scottish rite mason
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>>42843107

Well anons; as I said in the Buddism thread, the question is entirely what one means by "God" and "The Devil"; but fundamentally attempts to control the conversation through 1984 thought control through conversation control; and the more honest way, and more informative way, of looking at it is through names, which are labels of seats of consciousness traversing the infinite, whether deity, "angel", "demon", "fallen angel", or "devil"; all with their own specific plans and values.... but this of course leads us to the question of what, by the beard of Jupiter Optimus Maximus/Zeus, Lord of Good Government and Courts of Law, does Justice, most especially in the afterlife, even mean?
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>>42845971

>No, I don't believe in God, whomever you may mean with such a label or title; I believe in the Goddess Athena.

Thus, the answer is quite simple, Masons.
Who's Feather. Who's. Who's.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlwrSPx0w6A
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>>42843600
Brother its a well known thing that they literally lie to you at every degree before trickle truthing the real knowledge, but still lying in there for fun. You know less than anything because you've been actively lied to. You have the community aspect of it.
Nothing more
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>>42843107
>get called out too many times for larping
>take a break for a few weeks
>hey guys im back for more larp
welcome back
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>>42843229
>what they actually think about them
Most people DON'T think about Freemasonry, which is why they're known as "profane"
If you're profane and don't have any understanding of the Mysteries, then your opinion on Freemasonry manifests as a passive nervousness and a tendency to quickly forget about them after you stop talking about them
This is because the mind fears, and struggles to remember, things it doesn't understand
In order to really love or hate something you have to understand it first
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>>42843107

Reminder Masons; that the worthy slain Master Mason can be patroned by the Valkyrie, choosers of the worthy slain.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIuPagYDBwE
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>>42843107
I've been one for 13 years.

I find it boring as fuck. There's nothing special, unique or secretive about it; all the ceremonies are on the internet. There's no super powers, special gifts or secrets about anything esoteric in the world.

Going to resign from the lodge soon. Costs a lot as well - the fees to freemasonry, fees for dining, fees for charitable events, alms, etc. blah blah.

And I'm probably the youngest person in the lodge. Everyone else is retired.

Also, I don't believe in God or any God.
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>>42847457
Take psychedelics
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>>42843107
do yall still deny deformed people
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https://libraryofrickandria.com/inner-ring/



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