Do any *actual* regular Freemasons post here? I've been one for three years
>>42843107Clandestine here sup nigger how the oaths treating you
these ""free"" chuds dont even smoke bulls https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBJc8KrSWIU
I went to a freemason sponsored occult market at the temple. It was only sad/crazy old people. More witches than men but all really old. They cant get new recruits
>>42843154The important members aren't publically masons.
>>42843125Good. You're not a real mason btw. For your sake I hope you're at least the self taught kind of clandestine and not the kind who gets scammed out of his money
>>42843192i know ma better then you son now lick my two balls and suck my cain
how's it feel knowing you got scammed out of your money by melqart t. malakh
>>42843197Doubtful
>>42843197Cont, you are missing out on one of the major draws of freemasonry since you can't even enjoy fellowship with other masons or take offices and responsibilities. You could still probably be one if you wanted
>>42843154(((They))) Don't want new recruits. The need for a group like this is not there. They will close up shop.
>family gathering>starts talking about shriners and freemasons>"gee, they are really culty">"And weird!">never actually go into detail about what they actually think about themI hate normies so fucking much
>>42843107Imagine thinking the masons are something special. If you have access to power, then you can answer my question. Who am I, really? If you are someone with access to power then that should be easy to answer. Answer quickly and with confidence, this is the most important question you've ever been asked in your empty little life :)
>>42843230Thinking masons = access to power is normgroid conspiritard thinking
>>42843221>You could still probably be one if you wantedid gladly knock thrice if one could even acknowledge their own craft yet alone the global conquest that hasn't been favorable since the world wars Hell even the offshoots like The Golden Dawn teach half truths twisted with nonsense Where are my fellow Alef Bets that would be a group id be interested in fellowship with.
The only "power" you're likely to encounter is a business owner who is a mason hiring you over other equally qualified applicants because you are also a mason
Jesters are the most interesting masons
>>42843247unless you're nobility and get into off shoots like the ancient eight rings within rings
>>42843243I'll give you this, most of the masons i know are baby boomers who have no interest in anything remotely esoteric or "occult". But i have met some cool people too. Its good to go to functions like table lodges where there are usually grand lodge visitors and program speakers
>>42843270yah but what do those grand visitors even know transmuting the dragon of the snake and cow into the ramseems like a completely lost art but social programming engineering via idolatry sadly wasn't
>>42843298>yah but what do those grand visitors even knowUsually a lot. Most grand lodges have a historian and orator
>>42843298Also I have a question for you, if you don't take an obligation with witnesses how can anyone trust you? This is why regular masons don't communicate masonically with clandestine/irregular ones
>>42843320Well, one of the reasons
>>42843320>Also I have a question for you, if you don't take an obligation with witnesses how can anyone trust you?when has that ever stopped a liar how can anyone trust you or the masons in general oaths are more for keeping secrets seeding half truths aka lies and creating layers then for gate keeping profane imolike i use my intuition nous and strategy logos over blind faith especially with how things have been going the whole world is like that episode of spongebob where patrick tries to hide garys poop
>>42843338>oaths are more for keeping secrets seeding half truths aka lies and creating layers>then for gate keeping profane imoWell I'm sorry sir but your opinion is wrong. It is exactly for gatekeeping, and its working.
>>42843229They are right though
Its called guarding the west gate
>>42843341But what do they/you mean by "culty"? To be accurate every religious/spiritually tinged group is a "cult". Secular groups and political parties are also cults.
>>42843344then explain the fall of western society from the aim to miss the mark is sin
accelerationism?
>>42843348he means they arent left
>>42843221Nta but as a teacher on my own right i met my local masons and was not impressed
>>42843378every mason ive spoken with has been a chud
Zoog actually is, believe it or not. High-ranking as well. Never tells anyone shit about it, though. Par for the course when it comes to goths and their beliefs. https://youtu.be/vY14M3ufW10
>>42843378I dont disagree with you. What did you find most unimpressive about them? Like I said earlier most of them are normie christian boomers/silent gen who joined in the fraternity boom in the 50s-70s
>>42843107You're a dumb shabbos goy. Son of a widowed whore. Servant of pedophiles. Building a dystopian world to come. Great work.
>>42843351>>42843400you guys dont like flock cameras
>>42843400You are an authoritarian nazi who openly wants to kill or imprison anyone he disagrees with on anything, so I don't really give much credence to anything you have to say
>>42843412It's quite telling who you choose to defend and why you're an enemy of mankind.
>>42843412>You are an authoritarian nazi who openly wants to kill or imprison anyone he disagrees with on anything what an odd projection howd you get that inspection
>>42843427>who you choose to defendFreedom of thought and freedom of conscience? Yeah I defend it because I am a good person
>>42843438>Freedom of thought and freedom of conscience?dont oaths bind ones freedom
>>42843400>says a bunch of nazi shit>gets asshurt when someone calls him a nazi>"its national socialist, kike!"
>>42843442No, you freely choose to take them. Its like enlisting in the military or becoming a police officer or doctor.
>>42843447nta but hitler was a shabbos goy thats why he didnt encamp/kill the rothchilds and why one of the first SS his Chauffer was Jewishthat and his speech cordinator/drama teacher amongst otherscant say ash kin nazi without nazi
>>42843451eh all of those things are more like zions bdsm protect and serve ((Them)) no matter what ;)
>>42843459So why did Hitler ban freemasonry and kill/imprison freemasons
>>42843466So you think doctors should stop taking the hippocratic oath? Do you even know what that is?
>>42843467what is a whole burnt offering כָּלִילwho is anu what is anusim
>>42843476>>42843344>>42843351>>42843459I'll give you a hint they put the W in West Side"Crypto-Jews (Anusim) historically utilized subtle hand gestures, such as the priestly blessing gesture (similar to the Vulcan salute or a "W" shape) or specific hand placements in portraits, to identify fellow Jews and maintain their faith in secret while appearing to conform to Catholicism during the Inquisition. These gestures were often subtle adaptations of religious symbols to evade persecution."https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7233791/https://daratheodora.com/2017/11/01/mysterious-gesture/https://www.researchgate.net/publication/338457261_Secret_hand_gestures_in_paintings
>>42843467It's funny how countries that ban and outlaw central banks and freemasonry will be ganged up on and when they've been defeated, central banks and freemasonry is quickly reintroduced.
>>42843524its weird how those banks and groups also get stronger like a phoenix when this happens... just saiyan zaiyon
>>42843438>freedom of conscience?You should of course not be burdened by guilt and shame for wanting to rape babies and other depravity.
>>42843535Resistance is artificial and futile, just give up!
>>42843544its like a corporation the normies at the bottom are pretty good guys just ignorant its the guys at top that are usually psychopaths
>>42843535That's how the Jew works.
>>42843552nah most systems are a scam this world is fake and gaywake up and realize i am or shoot your local elite aka walstreet/washington not a school or mall or theater or rave kekor church/mosque but never a synagogue oddly enough
>>42843544>>42843554>I'm not a freemason>let me tell you all about what the "highest levels" of freemasonry are likeDunning Kruger
>>42843570that's just how hierarchy's work pics related>>42843125>>42843564the OT is pretty funny God blesses the jew jew gets lazy/greedyjew blames gods for ills that come from this god sends a messenger to suffer for/redeem the jew God blesses the jew jew gets lazy/greedyjew blames gods for ills that come from this god sends a messenger to suffer for/redeem the jewrinse repeat
>>42843580My point is I actually know these people and you dont, yet you are making wild unsubstantiated claims about them
secret judaism clubs for the goy
>>42843600you know the guys at the top i doubt thatrings within rings like the skull and bones on your apron
>>42843623The skull and bones are a reminder of your death, memento mori. Not whatever sinister thing you imagine it is.Who are these "higher ups" you speak of? Usually retards on /x/ say its the 33rd degree of the scottish rite, but I personally know many people who have attained that and they are ordinary people. Its an honorary degree you are awarded for exceptional service to masonry.
>>42843644just ordinary people, what's the point then why take oaths
>>42843675Are doctors no longer ordinary people because they took an oath? I already went over this with you
>>42843339>gatekeepingJust call yourselves cowards and be done with it.
>>42843459>why one of the first SS his Chauffer was JewishIt's actually quite simple and ironic. För starter, one of Hitler's early childhood friends was Jewish, he later wrote a book "my friend Hitler" or something like that. The doctor who treated his mother's cancer was Jewish and he expressed his eternal gratitude for trying to save her. He also helped to poor for lower prices or even free if they couldn't pay. Hitler gave him protection and free pass to leave Austria after the anschluss, when other jews had their properties confiscated. Hitler called him and honorary Jew and said that there wouldn't be a Jewish Question if they were all like him. Hitler said himself that he had a resistance towards antisemitism when he was introduced to the Jewish Question. But as he wrote "Gradually I began to hate them", as he came to understand the problem with international Jewry. On a personal level he could still see good in people and he also valued loyalty above all else. Hitler bodyguard, and chauffeur, who was loyal from the very beginning to the end in the bunker, Maurice Misch's great grandfather was Jewish. So by racial laws he wasn't even a Mischling, but considered Aryan. This became know when the SS was digging into his ancestry and Himmler wanted to throw him out of the SS. Hitler intervened because Maurice was a cofounder of the SS, member #2, only after Hitler who held #1. Himmler was member #168. He was also the 93rd member to join DAP in 1919, before it became NSDAP.
>>42843689Whats cowardly about not throwing pearls before swine?
>>42843684doctors aren't ordinary people they also arent the people at the top and you dont know them a doctors oath isnt to keep secretsyou also never addressed the failure of the western gate
>>42843698>you also never addressed the failure of the western gateDo you think the symbolism of the west gate has to do with the concept of western society? It doesnt
>>42843704then you dont know the i of i am you clearly aren't worth your weight in salt
>>42843712Tell me why the worshipful master sits in the east, if you're so smart.
>>42843238Thinking it is some philosopher book club is also normalfag thinking
>>42843729I personally think freemasonry is a school of magic
>>42843693Correction, his early childhood friend was not Jewish. But he had Jewish friends who helped him when he was "homeless" in Vienna.
>>42843726
>>42843748Nope. And you actually don't even need to be a Freemason to know the reason, its very simple and easy to find. Sirius appears in the south east btw
>>42843511There seems to be a good share of crypto jews in the "eastern" world as well, like the Dönmepic related if you know
>>42843726>the worshipful master sits in the eastchocma
>>42843767this shit goes back to the invention of spellingand seeded all culture and religion as we know it shits just really gotten out of hand
>>42843770Good answer
>>42843777self checked pic related
>>42843780the best answer only the greatest answerwhen i answer questions everyone's like wow so wise and so greathes like shlomo and hiram of tyre
>>42843805And just like that I think you're a retard again. Nothing remotely masonic about blumpf
>>42843820youre on the outer ring my big nosed friend
>>42843825So who is this inner ring and how do you know about them despite not being a mason?>I read leo taxil
>>42843845everybody knows about zion these days
>>42843258
>>42843759I guess you have to be more than a 3rd degree before they tell you that huh.>In ancient Egypt, Sirius rose visibly in the eastern sky right before dawn (known as the heliacal rising). This exact event marked the annual flooding of the Nile and the start of the new year.>Masons traditionally look toward the Worshipful Master, who sits "in the East" to open the lodge and enlighten the brethren. Symbolically, Sirius is the ultimate celestial anchor of that light, representing spiritual rebirth and the transition out of darkness.>While the general ritual of mainstream Lodges attributes the "Star in the East" or "Blazing Star" to the Sun or the Star of Bethlehem, higher-degree Masonic esotericism specifically identities it as Sirius. This connection bridges astronomical patterns with ancient mystical philosophy
>>42844051I'm also a 32nd degree scottish rite mason
>>42843107Well anons; as I said in the Buddism thread, the question is entirely what one means by "God" and "The Devil"; but fundamentally attempts to control the conversation through 1984 thought control through conversation control; and the more honest way, and more informative way, of looking at it is through names, which are labels of seats of consciousness traversing the infinite, whether deity, "angel", "demon", "fallen angel", or "devil"; all with their own specific plans and values.... but this of course leads us to the question of what, by the beard of Jupiter Optimus Maximus/Zeus, Lord of Good Government and Courts of Law, does Justice, most especially in the afterlife, even mean?
>>42845971>No, I don't believe in God, whomever you may mean with such a label or title; I believe in the Goddess Athena.Thus, the answer is quite simple, Masons. Who's Feather. Who's. Who's.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlwrSPx0w6A
>>42843600Brother its a well known thing that they literally lie to you at every degree before trickle truthing the real knowledge, but still lying in there for fun. You know less than anything because you've been actively lied to. You have the community aspect of it.Nothing more
>>42843107>get called out too many times for larping>take a break for a few weeks>hey guys im back for more larpwelcome back
>>42843229>what they actually think about themMost people DON'T think about Freemasonry, which is why they're known as "profane"If you're profane and don't have any understanding of the Mysteries, then your opinion on Freemasonry manifests as a passive nervousness and a tendency to quickly forget about them after you stop talking about themThis is because the mind fears, and struggles to remember, things it doesn't understandIn order to really love or hate something you have to understand it first
>>42843107Reminder Masons; that the worthy slain Master Mason can be patroned by the Valkyrie, choosers of the worthy slain.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIuPagYDBwE
>>42843107I've been one for 13 years. I find it boring as fuck. There's nothing special, unique or secretive about it; all the ceremonies are on the internet. There's no super powers, special gifts or secrets about anything esoteric in the world.Going to resign from the lodge soon. Costs a lot as well - the fees to freemasonry, fees for dining, fees for charitable events, alms, etc. blah blah. And I'm probably the youngest person in the lodge. Everyone else is retired.Also, I don't believe in God or any God.
>>42847457Take psychedelics
>>42843107do yall still deny deformed people
https://libraryofrickandria.com/inner-ring/