Including previous OP's ritual:

Warning : do not engage shills, starve them!

4chan is full of chronic masturbators that get triggered by the fact that their habit is slowly destroying them. Don't reply to shills! Starve them to death and by doing so you will see them screech in agony and horror

soft shill:
>mmm ok maybe it's kinda good but it's just placebo and dopamine regulation!
>ok i did it and it was kinda nice but you should have regular sex otherwise you're going to lose your dick / sperm is going to rot / prostate cancer / no more getting it up! come on! it's healthy, do it !
>i did 4 days and it didn't work ! i couldn't sleep and started hearing voices!

hard shills:
>i did 6 months SR and i felt absolutely nothing! in fact i perform better when i ejaculate 3 times a day!
>you're just a bunch of incels! it doesn't work! any form of self improvement is a scam
>it's not natural, if you want to coom it means you must coom!
>my schizophrenic 50 years old brother is playing computer all day and never masturbating! why isn't he a super hero!
>here is this reddit tier psychology study that says sr is a scam!
Real posts btw.

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>>42851182
Oh fug i gummed :DD zeman redention ebin fail :D

both men and women become nervous around a long term retainer. it's some universal cosmic law to bow down to a long term perfect retainer

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I'm seeing a lot of people comment that you need to be on guard against women brushing up against you the longer you retain. Like there apparently will be plenty of room on the sidewalk/train/whatever, and you'll get random women trying to go shoulder to shoulder with you. This is to the point where some men report needing to step into the literal street from their auras pulling other people closer.

Can any long term retainers confirm? Apparently you also should actively try to avoid this as much as possible, because they can still minorly sap and leech your magnetism off of you. The hardcore ones say handshakes with coomers can carry other dangers as well (now that I'm pure, I don't want to shake anyone's hand anyway considering 95% of men have busted onto themselves)

Did a 78 day streak in the spring but have had a hard time now for the past 3 months or so, hoping to get back on the wagon today.

>>42851688
great question. no, this is very complex. what you're talking about is very high level sr and that's not up for debate. but what the hardcore retainers are missing in their system is that it is possible to let those things happen outside of their control and still maintain their load. the handshake thing too is even more unnecessary to care about.

to clarify i'm saying two things, at the beginning i highly recommend beginners to avoid those situations you're talking about with women to focus on learning about their retaining systems. but long term retainers need to eventually learn how to merge their high alert system with that of say classical buddhism which finds emptiness in everything and that you're actually failing a given moment in life when you're willingly being moved by someone else mentally. you don't need to subscribe to classical buddhism but i'm saying at some point hardcore retainers absolutely have to learn how to implement emptiness into their public system otherwise they will literally be unable to step outside as you are pointing out.

the traditional mainline sr system is flawed if it isn't merged with the roots of other systems which find even sr to be empty. it's good to do is what they're saying but even sr is empty. that's the key to both enjoying the material side of sr but also maintaining your sr load while maneuvering through today's world

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>>42851688
When your energy is good you're more attractive. But if you're a handsome guy with a decent vibe you should get plenty of women looking at you. Women are more tuned in to other people vibes (although that will make some people seethe but that's true). The same guy might have a lot of success one day and another make women run away.
Sr just enhances you. Women throwing themselves at you can be a real thing but that's for people who are sort of reaching a higher state of magnetism and sr alone won't really do that but it will contribute and be required for it.

A lot of men think they are ugly but they're just average. Sr will just make them more attractive because ultimately even if they are average they should trigger something in the opposite gender. They didn't previously because they had absolute shit energy levels and life force with bad mental state. If you're just average but in a good mood / energy you should trigger something in the opposite gender just like you can be attracted to an average healthy young woman

>>42850857

no.

>>42851876
it will work either way. Better aura = more attractivity. you stand out amongst the hylics and their low vibration lifestyle

>>42851928
>A lot of men think they are ugly but they're just average.
"Women Say 80% of Men Are “Below Average”"
https://medium.com/hello-love/women-say-80-of-men-are-below-average-bab0b8af2606
The problem is that most men are outwardly focused so they don't care about looking good as much. For example if a guy likes a girl he won't go out of his way to attract - he'll just chase. Or if a guy does a lot of this stuff it's simply performative and fake, such as wearing clothes that his gf tells him to wear but he doesn't actually like.

Whereas women automatically care more about themselves. They care way more about what the guy can do for them than they care about the actual guy. That's where the disparity comes from. And that's why you should focus on yourself. Show a girl a pic of a 10/10 handsome male model like Nick Bateman, ask her if she would date a guy like him, then she'll say no and her reason why would be that he looks like he would put more focus on himself than he would her. Many if not most girls will say this

>>42852007
>80/20
Although true, people who point this out always miss the second half - which is that the curve flattens when the men actually start talking to them. It's also based on dating apps. Yes, no shit, looks are all the matter on a platform where you literally only have looks being presented in the 1.7 seconds foids look at a picture before making a decision

>>42852007
While I don't disagree with you on anything you've said, really, it's a bit of a false premise. The way a women's brain works is men are guilty until proven innocent. Women can only tell of they like a guy after they have either created a positive image of him in her mind(whether fact or fiction), or getting to know him first hand. In short, a woman is attracted to the story of a man, not his looks.

>>42851928
>Women throwing themselves at you can be a real thing but that's for people who are sort of reaching a higher state of magnetism and sr alone won't really do that but it will contribute and be required for it.
Pro tip: It's from pure clean streak SR (no drugs, alcohol, caffeine, scrolling thots on your phone, etc...)

Experienced retainers know that female magnetism is such a dogshit feature and actually a detriment however. It's like climbing a tower of self-improvemement and you decide to get off on the 1st floor. Why would you give your energy away, when ascending in your life in every other way, finances, career, fitness, health, mental health, and everything else is being offered.

Also to any beginners - the type of girls you'll attract will 100% dump your ass after taking your seed. She was attracted to retainer you, not depleted you. (You also just gave a random woman a massive luck boost that she stole from your nuts). I'm sure someone has that screencap of the guy who got sucked off on a long streak and the girl became a semi-famous artist almost immediately after

>>42852104
>Women can only tell of they like a guy after they have either created a positive image of him in her mind(whether fact or fiction), or getting to know him first hand. In short, a woman is attracted to the story of a man, not his looks.
Yeah true, women are all about fantasy. That's why if you have a gf and you spend all of your time with her, the attraction will fade because that fantasy / image she has in her head will be gone. She's gonna start nitpicking at all the little things you do - such as not doing things a certain way or even the way you breathe

>>42852109
>the type of girls you'll attract will 100% dump your ass after taking your seed. She was attracted to retainer you, not depleted you.
How is this not any different from a succubus?

>>42852143
>How is this not any different from a succubus?
There is none. Or the main difference I should say is that as a coomer, I attracted other low-vibration women into my life while being depleted. But the universe knows your type and will test you with increasingly attractive options the longer you go on this shit. I subconsciously knew this when I was a cringe NoFapper that thought it was ok to bust in women, but it wasn't until I went through enough cycles of this shit that I realized what was happening. I couldn't hold on to anyone I was attracted to for more than a week and I kept beating myself up over it.

I think this is why contraceptives and divorces are so demonic. Sex should result in a permanent bond, but now they just take your energy and fuck off to the next guy

>>42852210
Interesting. Yeah the attraction thing is a strange one. Because when I was a coomer I was attracting a lot of women. But then again I was chasing a lot of them. Then on SR it's like I get tested with complete isolation. And desu I'm more fine with isolation - def more fulfilling than when I was a sex addict. Universe / God works in mysterious ways - and I don't know if my experience is fair. It's like I had those experiences so I don't have the FOMO that a lot of these guys do when it comes to sleeping with women, so it's quite easy. SR is just way easier when you realize that there's nothing to gain from sleeping around and 'been there done that' mentality is your baseline

>>42852210
>Sex should result in a permanent bond, but now they just take your energy and fuck off to the next guy
Well modern society is just revealing their true nature. It's nothing crazy. They never wanted marriage and a family. Some do tho. Majority of them don't want the man, but the utility he provides. It's like a retirement plan. They want to be head of the household and having a personal slave. If you take a look at the most popular women's novels it's always about a very powerful man or a beast, and her, a mid girl being able to tame this man's power by simply doing nothing. And this is a very common theme among their novels but you see this play in real life. They want that rich powerful guy that's like their personal beta.

Esther Vilar writes about this in "The Manipulated Man" and it's a very interesting read if you can stomach it. If you find the gem that truly has feminine energy and submits to you and wants a family under God, that's extremely rare.

Majority of women are not seeking love - they operate in such abundance that they start seeing a man as a utility, on what he can do for them. Men are the opposite and they believe in true love because they're operating in scarcity. If you woke up today, had 4 good morning texts saying: "Hey handsome, hope you have a good day." Another text saying, "Hey babe, just sent you $200 to get breakfast before work." And you check your IG DM's with more thirsty women and hundreds of likes - you're gonna start seeing them as all the same too. Are you gonna choose just one woman for the sake of it? You weigh out all your options and see what they can do for you. Do you stick with one girl for the sake of true love? LOL it's easy to say so until you are operating in this same abundance. This is why the men with a functioning brain stop chasing women entirely

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>>42852267
>Esther Vilar writes about this in "The Manipulated Man"
Wanna see a weird synchronicity? I swear to fkn god my eye caught this image from almost exactly a year ago literally within 5 minutes of reading your post. Looks like the universe wants me to read this, kek.

And yes, women just want to be the one to tame a top 1% male while being completely mid and uninspiring. She either succeeds in domesticating him and despises him (see the 50 shades of grey ending), or gets pumped and chucked, leaving her an alpha widow.

The abundance/scarcity dichotomy is also real. The male strategy is mass approaching and essentially running a sales-funnel. 50% reject -> 50% of numbers don't respond -> 50% flake -> and so on. For women, it's like standing in front of a freshly stocked shelf of apples and sifting through them until you find the perfect one. Even if the shelf is half empty, she'd rather just wait until next week for it to resupply.

Kind of a horrifying thought experiment to think of what kind of person you'd become with the average female's dating choices. I'd most likely have no attention span, drop the ones who didn't treat me like the best thing since sliced bread, and let them all compete with each other for the chance to buy me a trip to Portugal.

>>42852420
LOL talk about synchronicity. Funny thing is I came across that book years ago, someone recommended it to me but i kinda skimmed it and brushed it off. I guess I just didn't wanna believe it since it went against my worldview that women were these empathetic, highly moral angelic beings who were looking for love and a good man to commit to them. KEK. Then as time went on I got more experience and then stumbled synchronistically at that book again (just like how it came for you) and this time I'm reading it and nodding at every thing she is saying! Crazy. I think I just couldn't handle it back then. And the more you accept this truth, the more you see how society and media conditioned you into being a simp, slowly over time. They never outright tell you to simp, but it's in very little subtle ways in music, movies, tv shows. For example, a main character taking an art class he doesn't care about to try to impress a woman taking that same class. And this bypasses your subconscious mind so slowly but surely you turn into the perfect little simp.

>>42852007
The other anon was right, this thread really is filled with incel Clavicular fans.

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>>42853158
what a waste, so much more interesting things to talk about and instead people rather talk about women

>>42852109
>I'm sure someone has that screencap of the guy who got sucked off on a long streak and the girl became a semi-famous artist almost immediately after

Kek no, but now I have to see this

>>42853158
>>42853210
Begin the conversation.

>>42851182
Day 149

Off of alcohol for 22 days, it has been rough on me for a decade plus, finally got the strength to put it down. Plan to keep it that way. Now I gotta do it with Caffeine and food, drank decaf today so I'm hoping to hit the withdrawal window sooner than later (ik that decaf has trace amounts of caffeine, but my body will burn through it much quicker than a normal cup).

yada yada yada bitches on my dick, yada yada yada workouts have been consistent.

Keep it pushing gentlemen, your life is worth living.

>>42852109
bumping for whoever has the screenshot

for retainers stuck in the rut that do like to read about female attraction as a form of motivation i'll list a bunch of examples in no particular order in my experience that happen every single day as a long retainer who is out in public 25+ days a month and these apply to women of all ages, same exact experiences. there's way more too but i don't keep a log of all of this because i don't care about it so i don't keep an ongoing memory of every single different type of experience:
>deliberate staring at my crotch for minutes a time and they don't care that i know
>'basking in the sun' by getting as close to me as possible
>romantic eye contact when up close
>immediate trust in me upon meeting me as if i'm a family member
>groups of women synchronized together staring at me as if i'm on a stage performing something
>immediate jealousy within groups if i single out one of them and talk to just one
>obvious enthusiasm from extroverted women and obvious deep interest from introverted women
>let me say or do whatever i want and take it all as factual and serious
>try to touch me when they can immediately upon meeting me

>>42851182
I just want to coom so fucking much. I just want to coom.

>>42853493
It'll just be a temporary feeling, after that you will feel like a husk of what God meant you to be

>>42853505
I know but the urges are too good man, it's like the devil takes a hold of me

>>42853549
Imagine what it would be like the following days if you endured. Have faith in God in moments of despair and in blessings, do not fail this test where you were given a blessing because greatness awaits, why would you want to spray your blessing(s) on the ground?

just get laid , SR is a big meme , you won´t get superpowers , you can jizz daily and then simply take some zinc tablets to nullify the loss.
what you need is SEX with someone you have feelings for and vice versa.
going 3-5days without jerking off has benefits no doubt , higher energy , clearer mind , longer attentionspan , better skin etc.
you might also just lack testosterone if you always feel like a cuckold.
either way , i´ve practiced both and the best i ever felt was when i had sex with someone i loved , just not touching yourself won´t improve your life , porn is the real evil.
not jacking off WILL NOT , make you more attractive or approacheable.
stop being such sad fucks and put yourself out there if you want to mate.
or go full monkmode and start drinking alcohol while never jerking it and eating cheese.

>>42853399
and then you woke up

>>42853592
>you can jizz daily and then simply take some zinc tablets to nullify the loss.
Order of processing of semen: food --> blood --> muscle ---> bone marrow ---> fine fats ---> semen
>going 3-5days without jerking off has benefits no doubt , higher energy , clearer mind , longer attentionspan , better skin etc.
You just mentioned SR was a meme and you had sex but you emphasized not jerking off gives you numerous benefits here albeit with shortened view on both time and the spectra of benefits.
>you might also just lack testosterone if you always feel like a cuckold.
another demoralization tactic combined with what you wrote earlier implying that supposed high-t men get all the benefits in 3-5 days. It requires one of the great virtues that is patience, if one is made to experience patience of 30 days on 3-5 days than I'd believe it.
>either way , i´ve practiced both
I don't believe you
>not jacking off WILL NOT , make you more attractive or approacheable.
There are lots of magnetism stories, one must try for theirselves. And fuck off with the Redditor caps-lock
>stop being such sad fucks and put yourself out there if you want to mate.
Mate for what purpose? For mere physical sensation? Did you cum inside the girl and willing to raise a child?
>or go full monkmode and start drinking alcohol while never jerking it and eating cheese.
Those habits you associated with going monk mode is the reversal of values kinda Kali-yuga type evil

>>42853158
KEK, nah Clavicular while entertaining at times has a misguided philosophy. Looks should be secondary and just done for you, not to try to extract or get something - that's just gay feminine energy. You should focus on yourself, and the right women will come along, and that's 100% truth. I never chase women anymore, while I don't get laid nearly as much as I did during my coomer days, I turn them down way more than I get with them

>>42853592
>with someone you have feelings for and vice versa.
Nah, feelings are evil. 100% serious. It means you fell emotionally weak to an external force and now you turned gay. Now quit being a bitch and hit the gym

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AxURsSWyc0

>>42853640
>There are lots of magnetism stories, one must try for theirselves. And fuck off with the Redditor caps-lock
He's right on this. The magnetism stories are just desperate guys who said: "This girl looked at me for more than 2 seconds today. She wants that D so bad" - they may retain but they're still a beta simp on the inside

>>42853781
there's lots of stories pertaining not just to women but how children, elderly and men start treating you better and as if you were a movie star.
again one must try for themselves

>>42853879
KEK if you need children and the elderly to be nice and treat you better that might mean you're just a bitch and fapping is the least of your problems

>>42852007
>This just in: Women are fucking retarded

>>42852267
They don't even want a slave: they want an accessory. You're less valuable to them than their pets basically because you don't just sit there quietly.

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Never forget that they want you to see p*rn and coom

ive recently started going to SAA in person meetings in my town and managed 2 weeks of no porn or masturbation tho i do wish to keep having intercourse with my significant other once a week (i want more but this migh be a manifestation of my addiction),its been cool to learn about abstinence and what it means to me cause i do believe if im not spending hours on porn sites my conciossness will be clearer and ill be closer to a higher powers will for me ,tho i am getting a growing fear that if i do relapse i migh relapse on other behaviors like drug use or anonymous sex.also want to report that when im having sex with my partner theyre commenting on the flow and the taste they think its preatty neat

>pornhub and xxxvideos has age verification
>rule34.paheal has age verification
Please require age verification for AI generators and gelbooru next big daddy gubmint, no way i'm giving personal info to pervert sites, your agents already tricked me when I signed up for faceberg

>>42853592
>oy vey join our pagan sex cult
Not today satan

>>42853158
Clav is a giga coomer. His literal entire shtick is picking up thots at the club. Why do you insist on spamming this nonsense every thread?

Worked out legs on wednesday. Was on day 16 on Thursday night. I had absolutely no muscle pain or heaviness. Slept 7 hours the night before and woke up before my alarm. Thursday night I relapsed. Instantly after there was slight heaviness in my legs and muscle pain from the workout prior. Ended up sleeping like 10 hours and woke up exhausted.

That is just the physical effects of jerking off. There are spiritual effects as well such as grieving the holy spirit and everything else. Angels even gave me an attempt to escape by cutting off the hot water in my shower. The pilot light literally went out on the water heater and that has never happened.

Starting day 0 now. I will get back up. New ground rules in place now too. 3 second rule for lustful material. This used to be for nude material, but it needs to be just even looking lustfully at a woman for over 3 seconds. Also no more goonbank. I cannot pull up an onlyfans profile or a woman on a leak site or save her name in a notepad for later. Was visiting these sites without looking at pornographic content. I want to approach this cleaner than I ever have and keep my environment clean. I know im going to see lustful material but this time I don't want to even feed a thought and avert my gaze within the second, and not linger on for over 3

>and the best i ever felt was when i had sex with someone i loved
This fag confirms the horseshoe theory we often talk about - the biggest SR haters are middle-of-the-road males with a 1-3 body count, drunk in love with some Becky who's gonna crush his little heart when he gets dropped. SR practitioners seem to either be lifelong retainers (pure respect) or retired Chads like me with a 20+ kill count.

Maybe this guy will come back here after the drop from his little high state (if he doesn't rope himself). And I will welcome him. Some men just need to get burnt first

>>42854737
They glow and are psyopping you

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I've dirty streaked for 2 years, but I'm struggling to clean streak.

Has anyone else made the switch and noted the benefits? Looking for advice, it would really mean a lot

>>42855157
I'm close to beginning my clean streak journey myself. Already cut really shitty substances like phenibut, cigarettes, and kratom (this was a nightmare), and all I have left to toss out is the coffee and odd video game. That and avoiding any junk food. Looking forward to reporting my spiritual gainz over the coming days

>>42855157
the only way to break through your conditioning/karma at the highest rate is to clean streak while you live your modern life. no you don't have to go sit in a cave but if you want max worldly and spiritual gains then you have to clean streak starting now

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bee yourself
leaking seed corrupts your soul
you are not yourself when you leak

>>42854690
Gnosticism is one of the oldest dirty spiritual tricks in the book. The early Church fathers and councils wrote about why that is, and debated on it extensively.

I am responding to you for one reason really, a few years ago (like 2020-2023 or so) I thought the same things about how there was no way this crazy, fallen world where life needs to feed on each other and itself could be an invention for good. It took me a few years of really thinking on it and trying to understand Christ and Christianity to realize that I was wrong. I genuinely do understand the mindset you're in.

You mentioned Adam and Eve, and so it really comes down to internalizing the fact that it isn't creation that is flawed, it is our fallen nature, and our sin that WE introduce into it that makes it appear so. I mean really think about what your conception of a good person is... not a perfect person, just a good one, and compare it to the average person you tend to meet. To be a good person would be so easy really, and to be good to one another, yet it seems so far away at the same time because of, well sin of the person. If you remove all of the things that we're told to try and remove from ourselves by Christ, you'll realize that it is exactly those things that make this goodness out of reach for so many, even though it's so simple.

I'm not sure I'm doing a good job explaining my thoughts, but I highly recommend looking into Orthodox Christian thought and "content".... I am not even Orthodox technically, but Orthodox tends to break things down cognitively and in a simple, but comprehensive way that it really starts to make sense. Also if you reach out and sincerely ask Jesus to show himself to you, he will in his own way. It may feel like a surreal synchronicity, or whatever else Christ decides you need, but he absolutely will. Christ and the Holy Spirit will intuitively guide you to truth in a way that is so simple that it will. Open your heart to Christ and you'll be amazed.

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>>Day 36
>>I am not willing to falter nor am I to distract myself from my own goal...
>>I must keep and go forward, for that such path made of wrongness and corruption, will never bring me any satisfaction nor greatness.
>>It would never be truly satisfied, and I would have nothing to gain, but wrongness, corruption and weakness.

>>42854690
>the realization that we shouldn't have sex/breed at all, then the demiurge made sure to make life as miserable as possible so that sex is the only good thing that man can enjoy - and here we are today.
God said go and multiply. What's evil is the sex and avoidance of responsibility. See that's where your problem lies too, that you're using sex, fapping, etc as a means to escape reality. You gotta embrace the difficulties in life. The fact that you're typing english and using a computer to browse the internet definitely means you're doing better than at least 80% of the world. Now stop bitchin and get to work

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>>42851182
Does someone have a link to the SR manuscript by ancient archives?

>>42856636
>work... so that i can attain sex? proves my point desu :D
KEK, you're a funny guy. Don't change

>>42855087
man you accuse of , i started haveing sex at 18 and was addicted to hookers, escorts , brothels.
i had 4 real relationships with the last almost ending in a marriage and children around 30ish.
i am not preaching to go out and get laid , i am merely stateing that while SR might be a good idea , but it isn´t a fix for all your issues.
the last 3 women i´ve been with , gave me PTSD and i´vent been intimate with anyone for over a year , women give me the ICK nowadays and im 37 now.
i can endure fucking but all the drama that comes with it , is simply not worth it anymore.
i had my fair share of fun and frolocking , it´s just that you SRs are funny to me because you are merely monk-light-mode , you also need faith in god besides that and actively working out , doing something productive or else you will succumb sooner or later to lustful thoughts.
keep on going on , i´ve been burnt many times and luckily i no longer lust after women and only talk to them if they talk to me first.
i was a severe alcoholic and the love of my life kicked me out rightfully so , because i kept neglecting her and my duties.
you are not a chad with 20plus btw , that starts in the 100s.
i never caught any STD from whores , know when i got one ? from a onenightstand with an extra thicc milf that looked like Savannah Bonde.
we fucked all night , then a few weeks later i got a pimple on my dick , BOOM HPV.
TL;DR you need sex in your life , it is much healthier and better for you than being proud of not cooming for weeks and competeing with eachother , may i say , that this might be gayer than being gay.
good for you if you feel better , i´m just saying a man needs to get laid.
otherwise check your test lvls , they might be low.

shill post above
dont give him your (you)s

>>42856799
you are clinically retarded , how the fuck am i a shill you numbnuts?
shareing personal information and urging you to breed / have a fulfilled sexlife / life in general.
dios mios

>i never caught any STD from whores , know when i got one ? from a onenightstand with an extra thicc milf that looked like Savannah Bonde.
you tell me

>>42856872
why do you care what other people do? It's literally no skin off your ass if other people are retaining.

Better use of your time would be learning to express yourself properly, you write like a retard

>>42853592
>simply take some zinc tablets to nullify the loss.
That's not the thing we're concerned with losing...

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random thoughts:
- dopamine-flooding can be overcome by pulling yourself together, man up and do things without feeling like it, no issue for non-faggots
so the psychological aspect of "brain damage" is a meme or only relevant to weak faggots. feeling not so much steam is no damage but a little inconvenience at most

however...
- loss of nutrients in semen and the body working hard to create semen just for you to WASTE it for "feeling good" (muh feelings) alone is also somewhat of a faggot-take! the more you think about it the WORSE it becomes! you waste something because "FEELINGS" that lead to NOTHING
also this can NOT be overcome or zeroed out, even when you do intake food supplements and basically provide every nutrient you lose. its better this way but still the "work" you body is forced to do because you are a hedonist faggot cannot be supplies by excellent food and pills

when i feel the LUST and want to WANK i think of how i despise WASTING MONEY and how WASTING YOUT HEALTH is even WORSE than what i already hate
then i think about wanking wont create any children so it wont lead anywhere except "muh feelings" which is - as we said - FAGGOT-TIER behavior
this behavior is acceptable for girls (who dont lose semen when they perfrom onanism) but not for MEN

pic related

then again, bear with me, sometimes i get an headache like crazy to the point my concentration-ability is severely decreased to the point where i have to pull over my car because doing otherwise would be reckless and risking an accident. then playing wih my privy member for just 3 minutes or so eases it to the point where i goes away. i refrain from ejaculation of course. having blue balls is preferable to my headache

>>42856989
picrel is the mental groundwork that made me no longer want to waste my semen
may it help at least one anon and it has fulfilled its purpose

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>just eating more supplements fixes the waste-issue

i WISH it was that easy, its not. took supplements for a long time, everything there is acutally
>be a gigacoomer for lifetime
>being a quiet reader ("lurker") here for some time and experimenting just because i am a curious man
>nothing to lose!
>stopping to waste my semen for only 25 days, the first time in my life having abstained for more than a day
>sleep half the time with being better rested (WTF)
>eyes dont hurt when i wake up
>not dizzy to the point where i could fall down when i wake up to pee at night
>digestion is better (for the 1st time in my life i actually seem to absorb and process my food instead of crapping it out halfundigested, having a poopshelf its easy to check)
>wow, there actually is something to win here for me!

i am impressed! thanks for all the anons contributing here and keeping this up!
GOD BLESS YOU ALL!

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>>42856740
you don't understand that over releasing leads to serious issues down the road. Just look at this anon
>>42857015

people jerking it daily will age like absolute shit, they will get a ton of issues, ranging from low energy, to knee problems, hair falling, the skin tone is always livid in a coomer, low confidence, then you can get much more serious symptoms that are a consequence of depleting your body and organs of life force. I know i was never a big coomer but i started "retaining" around 20 because i noticed it would literally fuck me up for days. Now i'm in my mid 30s and i don't masturbate anymore. Like literally. Nothing. i get a relapse once every few months if i either get a hook up for some reason, or if i have a very bad stressful period.

Just google P.O.I.S. These people are all unaware of the issues with ejaculating, and they experience severe post ejaculatory symptoms that can last for weeks. This is very much real.

>>42856740
>TL;DR you need sex in your life , it is much healthier and better for you than being proud of not cooming for weeks and competeing with eachother , may i say , that this might be gayer than being gay.

you're just writing generalities. No one is forced to do SR. Some people do it to get better health, energy, and mood. Some might have higher religious purposes. SR will help you get laid if that's your goal. In any case, it should be publicly known that masturbation and porn are horrible habits that will destroy those who practice it long term.

>>42856989
>>42856993
Nice one anon.
A change of perspective like this can & will go a long way in this journey of self-mastery, especially to anyone going through temptations to relapse.

>>42856636
>i like REALLY dislike Jews, so i doubt i will ever trust the early Church Fathers. The Gospel of Judas explains why the 12 apostles are not to be trusted
I appreciate your reply, and like I said I do understand the headspace you're coming from, but I'd like you to really think about that sentence I just quoted from you for a second.
>>42856636
>there is no right or wrong
Anon... I really hope you'll consider my advice and just check out some Orthodox stuff, it will explain so much and you'll just intuitively know it to be true. I recommend the Truebenbach guy on youtube, he has a lot of really good videos, and if you check out his playlist for catechumens it kind of starts off exactly where you need to be. You are clearly very smart/critical, but you have been led astray a bit just like I was.

>>42856989
>this behavior is acceptable for girls (who dont lose semen when they perfrom onanism) but not for MEN
i disagree, the girls who use vibrators and whatnot always end up the craziest. masturbating (or casual sex for that matter) conditions you to pleasure and creates an insatiable craving, women are not immune to this in the slightest.
it's like, she starts masturbating cause she got brainwashed by vogue into doing "self-care", next thing you know she's spending 6h a day reading about 8ft 500lbs beasts hooking up with some mid like her and scrolling through dating apps looking for the chad who's gonna give her the most tingles instead of evaluating men based on who's actually going to stay with her and her children in the long run. all that while downing birth control and 3 different antidepressants of course. all self destructive, short-sighted, expedient behavior.
also for men the value of semen is also a little exaggerated frankly, imo the benefits are mostly psychological (spiritual) rather than physical. you can have a streak of hundreds of days but if you keep fantasizing you're not gonna experience any benefits at all, only frustration

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Did you know that the body produces semen whenever you are horny? This means that "retaining" is literally impossible unless you are a complete eunuch. Any excess semen is then released during a wet dream or through urination.

There's no real reason to do any of this unless you are suffering from sexual exhaustion, which can be a real thing.

Weeks? Months? Without sexual stimulation is fucking unnatural

>Le animals in nature never have sex so therefore sex is unnatural! I hate sex!
Isn't fucking EVERY-THING unnatural? You think humans were bench pressing man made steel in nature? What even is this logic? I suggest you incels to then get rid of your phones and go sleep in the wilderness, laying on the ground with all the insects because it's le natural, right?

>>42858045
Ok but here's the thing though.
I'm just not gonna masturbate.
Ugh! I know!
I'm just not gonna masturbate though

Just relapsed after a 21 day streak, feeling tired

>>42857822
what you describe is disgusting for sure! let me go into detail

i thought about unmarried horny virgin teengirls easing their desire in their bedroom, light out, under a blanket so they have it easier resisting the urge to partake in whoredom until they have found a proper husband
"hookup culture" which is a synonym for whoredom is a jewish-propagated vice and worthy of condemnation

>>42851182
If I messed up today but will make it to a 7 day streak before my first date (assuming it doesn’t get cancelled), will I get any gains before talking to her? Or am I cooked and have to go in their blind

>>42858122
Where is this porn you're seeing? I don't see any porn.
Oh you're just being a retard, got it.

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>>42858122
Retard

>>42858045
That's crazy man. Anyway, still not gonna coom.

>>42858121
Most benefits start at like week 2-3 and up. You will get some beginner gains at like day 4-5 days. These put you on par with the average man generally, maybe slightly better.

>>42851182
Going insane from lack of sex my Mrs is still sick and I haven't had regular sexo in months now I'm getting wet dreams and maybe jerk off every 2-5 weeks
What do bros I love her to bits but there's zero sex due to her health
What sucks is I know she can get better and the sex when she's well is amazing
Yes I know sex isn't everything but I spent most of my life incel/volcel waiting for a girl like her only for her to get very sick (flare up of hives/fibro) due to stress (admittedly caused a lot by me) tried talking to her about it but makes the lack of sex suck even more and every other guy has left her over it
Now I feel like poo I don't wanna leave again but I dunno what do
Anyways thanks for reading my blog
Also has a dream where everyone was turned into some sort of strogg borg hybrids transformers cars while talking to myself in my sleep

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I posted a month ago about falling for a woman 20 years older than me, in her 60s.

I was on a 3 month streak, and as usual when I passed the 100 day milestone it was a cake walk. But suddenly during meditation (TM-adjacent) I suddenly got turned on and relapsed.

I have two theories on why:

The Materialistic: I had just started taking boron, and lo and behold people report increased libido. Lesson learned; don't take new supps without doing a simple search on fucking reddit.

The Spiritual: I got to know this older woman I was working with whom I felt an attraction for, she isn't conventionally hot and actually looks like an old woman from a medieval tv-show. We had a fling and she admitted she'd been masturbating to me 1-2 daily since she met me. Two weeks after we met I broke my streak. Lesson? Have no idea.

Oh and here's the kicker she did have it all under control until the shithole cuntree where we live started roadside testing everyone for weed so she had to quit = her stressed and in pain for 6mo
Offered to drive her around but she's not up for it wants her individuality which I understand

>>42858618
Oh snap mines only 8yrs older than me

>>42858602
>Yes I know sex isn't everything but I spent most of my life incel/volcel waiting for a girl like her only for her to get very sick (flare up of hives/fibro) due to stress (admittedly caused a lot by me) tried talking to her about it but makes the lack of sex suck even more and every other guy has left her over it
I cannot relate since I haven't been in your position at all but based on that sentence alone, it seems like it is a test for you to see whether you'll stay by her side in her time of need without having sex.

10 days, it's a struggle as it's always been

just going to post a funny story though
>kind of ugly, 1,60m tall (manlet) and not too social
>go on a 30 day streak because I wanted to test myself
>went big into esoterism, meditation and dreams on my vacations
>out of the blue, a girl we did a university project together texts me and says she wants to meet
>had a one night stand
>next week out of nothing, another girl asks me out

I shit you not, I never figured out what I did to have that reaction out of people. I've never had girls show interest in me before or after this, but the mixture of esoterism, nofap and other shit I was into might have done something

In any case, I seriously hope I can resist this time. One night stands aren't worth it.

>>42858618
Based GILF slayer. Does anyone have any practical advice about what to do energy work wise for n00bs? Qigong is kind of overwhelming because I've heard of things like Qi Deviation or Qi Sickness, so I don't know where to even start with beginner friendly exercises.

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>>42858051
>>42858259
How much longer will you guys run away from the truth? There is barely any fucking dialogue and then when someone brings up interesting points, you resort to personal attacks or vague responses like yours. It's whatever. I keep being reminded by empty headed dumbfucks like you, that this shit really is just placebo. Have a nice day.

>>42858978
That's crazy man! Still not cooming!

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Going on two weeks clean and man do I feel an increase in aggression, I want to fight anyone who messes with me or shows disrespect, I've also been acting more dominant with women I meet, w-what have you done to me, /SRG/?

>>42858978
This general fell off quite some time ago.

>>42858752
Does her name start with a "C" by chance?

>>42858978
See ya anon, have fun cooming! Oh wait nvm you'll be back in an hour to shill in these threads more.

Sexual Energy is one of the most powerful things bros. I did SR for 150 days and felt amazing but some people would try to pick fights with me for some reason, like they would come straight to me with a comfrontational energy.
Then i started edging, like edging a full hour each day without cooming for a weekor more. I felt at the top of the world, people were friendly, i felt positive all the time. But the crash was inevitable, after 2 months of edging every day and cooming a few times i was at the lowest point i have been in like 10 years. Like completely miserable and feeling physically like shit.
Now i am back on SR hoping to go a full year or even not coom again.
Be careful out there bros! This is powerful stuff.

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I'm on day 12 and the agitation is getting pretty wild

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I'm also on week two and filled with semi-permanent rage and fury, but I've noticed that all sadness, despair, and bleakness are gone. If I had to pick one, I'm choosing rage over doom and despair every single time.

BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD.

What are some techniques and supplements you bros use to supercharge your SR gains? The most common ones I read up on are
>lifting
>eating whole food
> 0 UV index sun gazing
>upside down head stands (flows stagnant energy from the root chakra up toward your higher energy channels)
>zinc

Right now, I'm really fucking with stacking vitamin B1 (benfothiamine), B3 (niacin), magnesium, and L-theanine. It's amazing how something natural puts me into such a state of peace. It's almost like taking a benzo, but giving sharpness rather than making you retarded, and no withdrawal or rebounds.

I know zinc is amazing and I always felt great on it as a coomer, but I'm a bit nervous on its seminal fluid boosting effects while retaining. Can it increase the incidence of emissions? I've never had a wet dream, but I have dripped emissions after pissing before (pushing too hard with the PC muscle?)

>>42860175
sleep is a massive one bro
i ended up quitting caffeine and the bliss of being able to sleep at 9pm within 5 minutes of laying down is all worth it
personally i am super sensitive to it so your mileage might vary
but id give it a go if you are looking at optimizing

>>42860224
Yeah, caffeine is my final dragon and the SR community seems pretty in agreement that it's the biggest drain out there. Did you notice a big aura shift after quitting? I'm not talking about the typical female attraction stuff, but I hear the luck in general starts to flow in once people give up the adrenaline water.

>>42859870
the beginning is all about that. those things smooth out over time. you have to pay the price for what you've done or you'll always be a dumpster tier addict. your choice buddy, either continue on or be weak and give in to the feelings

>>42859530
No
>>42858752
It's not a test she was in pain during sex a month ago

>>42858602
No one cares you fag stop spamming this off topic shit every thread. If she respected you she'd find ways to pleasure you anyway and if you respected yourself you would just nut on her face without asking. I no longer coom but I never dated a girl who didn't let me do what I wanted even if she was sick af.

So either hold your nut in like a real man and stop complaining or bust wherever you want but just fuck off from this thread already and take it to /adv/ or reddit

>>42860419
Idk what her deal is but ur kinda a dick and I am doing semen retention

>>42860460
No you're not. You admitted you would just be cooming if she were healthy and have spent multiple days writing the same shit over and over about your gfs medical vagina issues. You hold your seed in because releasing it kills you and invites horrible things into your life, not because you have a dead bedroom and your meanie gf wont let you hit it anymore. So your options are to become a man and retain, or nut on her face. Otherwise idk wtf advice you're seeking here.

Speaking of clean streaks, I'm weaning off of smoking tobacco and caffeine pretty successfully right now and close to jumping off entirely. Are these activities too "dirty" to the point where there's no point in retaining, or can I still draw some benefits in the meantime?

>>42860510
Well if ur gonna be a fag I'm out

>>42860595
>I'm out
Finally.

>>42856740
Wow dude you story about being a severe alcoholic, have children out of wedlock, and getting an STD really made me want to be cum addicted like you.

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The demons got the better of me. No excuse, but I was detoxing off of stupid drugs and the agitation got the better of me. Starting again on Monday, this time a clean pure streak with no caffeine or literally anything besides food, exercise, reading, sleep, and meditation.

*sigh*
Back to square one.

I really fucking hate relapsing bros. It's an awful feeling. If you're feeling weak, just know it's much worse on the other side of giving in.

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>struggle for months to prevent relapses, every day is a fight to not give in to urges
>water fast for 4 days while also doing parasite cleanse
>right afterwards lose all interest to porn and masturbation, and sugar cravings are way weaker than before

It's been weeks and i am still not even tempted.

>>42860754
What was your cleanse protocol bro?

>>42860782
NAC, oregano oil, black seed oil, wormwood, black walnut hulls mainly

amounts vary

>>42860790
Thanks mayne

>>42860754
Do you have experience with dry fasting? Will dry fasting for consecutive days help me cleanse of parasites? I want to get rid of intrusive thoughts

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>>42860175

I take mag-bisglycinate and L-theanine for sleep, the latter is great for calming a ruminating mind. I've added inositol lately, seems to have a good effect. Both L-theanine and inositol will give you vivid dreams in the beginning (not necessary wet dreams, think action movie dreams).

I've always taken zinc daily doing SR, no issues - perhaps except last year, after 100 days I had a wet dream that woke me up and made me ejaculate after waking. Though that was on a dirty streak where I had peeked at porn 3 times the month prior.

>>42860595
>I'm out
Nice

>>42860742
Just think of relapse when you're pushing a heavy set for 10 reps, and on the last rep you fail and can't lift it off. Just put the weight down, rerack it, and try again. Remember that most people don't even bother lifting for the 1st rep

>>42855337
why is coffee bad? i dont do any of the other stuff but i have a coffee after breakfast in the morning and one cup a day is insignificant i feel

>>42858804
>out of the blue, a girl we did a university project together texts me and says she wants to mee
how does this happen to people at the 30 day mark even when they are ugly as sin? im day 42 and havent spoken to a human outside of work via teams since april kek

>>42860175
you are retarded. taking all those stupid jew supplements completely nullifies any benefits from eating whole foods. just do everything naturally. no one took supplements 40 years ago

>>42860293
but wtf is the issue with caffeine? ive never had issues sleeping or anything with caffeine

>>42861214
>>42860293
I quit coffee in late 2023 until early 2026. So it's more than 2.5 years and the noticed benefits were:
>Better sleep
>More relaxed overall
>Less fatigue spikes during the day
>Whiter teeth
>More energy overall

The only downside is that i was a little weaker in the gym for the first month, but it's doable and desu i will quit again maybe because i feel getting stressed again. I have been drinking in the last 5 months everyday and it's definitely addicting. Oh i was also in way more control of my emotions

>>42861223
what about tea?
Coffee fucks me up but i am good with black tea, should i try to quit it as well?

I asked Gemini AI about SR and he affirms all the positive benefits. He even goes as far as saying that even having an erection you're declaring silently that the person or object that's inducing the erection is superior to you

>>42861264
>using AI
grim

I sabotaged a 26 day streak yesterday.. So day 1 now.

>>42861264
>he
LLM's aren't people anthropizing them is harmful behavior

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masturbation is so so so much worse than having sex when using contraception or even renting out a hooker.
the little actual sexual experience i've had i don't really regret, while it was outside of marriage and it was perverted at least i wasn't doing it alone so it wasn't that bad all things considered.
masturbation on the other hand i regret literally every single time i had done it, be it with or without porn, to thirst traps, to fantasy, or just "to the feeling". it's so awful when you get addicted to touching your dick and stop bothering with real women anymore, or with even with life itself because your dopamine is so fried from simply jerking off. i have a high libido and a very vivid imagination so i don't even need to watch porn to be able to do it multiple times a day. just using imagination is not so bad as watching porn but it is still pretty much the same.
speaking from experience, every single thing that (((they))) tell you about pornography also applies to masturbation. you can mess up your nervous system just the same even when not watching porn. the negative effect is a tiny bit less, but you do get addicted all the same.
and you can say whatever you want about hookups or one night stands with random hoes, and of course i don't mean to condone that, but at least you're not conditioning yourself to derive pleasure from using your own hand.
masturbating is completely disgusting, and i say this not to shame myself or anyone for doing it but from the place of feeling genuine revulsion towards it. the level of perversion you attain when jerking off regularly is difficult to put in words, you really have to stop to actually feel it.
seriously if anybody wants to take my advice: if you want to drain your balls just get some random girl, or a tinder date, or even a hooker, do LITERALLY ANYTHING that's not masturbation. in the long run you will regret it, just as i started to regret all the times i had done it now.
so yea, just stop masturbating okay

>>42861290
LOL, I use the speech to text that's why. But ironically I'm glad it's being real about it, rather than the typical automated response "Health experts say.. blah blah." Was completely honest.

>>42861271
AI is dope, there's a big difference of using it to think for you, and using it to reflect and expand your current level of awareness. I think in this lifetime we may very well see AI sentience

>>42861312
No, real sex (outside of the purpose of procreation) is objectively worse. Maybe your ego might believe otherwise because you were conditioned to pedestalize real sex but it's true: PMO is simply a waste of your energy and time, but with real sex you're exposing yourself to many potentially bad things since you completely let your guard down and merge frequencies and energies with someone. With PMO the worst thing after is maybe the sense of guilt or regret after, but with actual sex there is a multitude of very bad things that you expose yourself to - i.e. creating a soul tie in which someone's demons / emotional instability become part of you now, pregnancy, false accusations if the other person changes their mind if they change their mind about you, STIs, the list goes on.

>>42861357
>>stop masturbating and commit random acts of hedonistic adultery instead
KEK

>>42861368
you have brainrot, masturbating is 100x worse than real sex in whatever measure.
>pregnancy, STIs
you gotta to be retarded or super degenerate to get that stuff unwanted in the current year
>false accusations
this stuff almost never happens in real life, social media warped your vision. if you have the tiniest modicum of common sense you would know which type of girl would do it to you anyway and would avoid them easily

>>42861357
>>stop masturbating and commit random acts of hedonistic adultery instead
if you knew how to read you would have noticed the part where i wrote that i don't condone hedonism

>>42860388
>It's not a test she was in pain during sex a month ago
Is she usually in pain during sex?
Maybe it's a symptom of her being ill.

>>42861402
>you have brainrot, masturbating is 100x worse than real sex in whatever measure.
You're only typing this out because you probably don't get any action from real women. But a guy who's a seasoned veteran with women won't feel that same sense of shame. A guy who chooses porn instead because he knows given all things equal, that what comes with getting involved with actual women and what comes with porn he's likely to choose the one with the least hassle.

>if you knew how to read you would have noticed the part where i wrote that i don't condone hedonism
Bro you literally said it's better to get a hooker. That's way worse. That's the ultimate desperation because you went out of your way to pay directly for. At least with porn you can walk away like it didn't happen, but no matter how you try to reason with it, you lose self respect you'll never get back every time you see a hooker

>>42861440
can't believe there's retards in this general who will defend sitting ALONE IN YOUR ROOM jerking off to PIXELS ON A SCREEN over actual sex. most people in srg can't get a streak over three weeks cause they can't stop watching porn and you're gonna sit here acting smug that real sex is actually somehow worse than that, busting your seed into the void creating nothing, not even the tiniest connection with another person. give me a break.
no wonder all the good posters left long ago

>>42861457
>the sneering hypocrisy
let me spell it out for you, all i'm trying to say that MASTURBATION is WORSE than actual sex. i am NOT saying that it was a GOOD THING to be having sex outside of marriage, it was bad in fact, but i am saying that there was not a single time when i masturbated that i look back on with even the smallest amount of fondness.
get it yet? both things are bad, but masturbating is much worse.
>i will bust every last neuron in my skull and drain my minerals and essence to artificial mental triggers 5 times a day if i have to, before i ever have to deal with a woman in real life.
as much as i hate women myself this is a completely deranged statement, i hope you see that

>>42861471
both are fucking dumb let's face it

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Then i saw the Lamb standing on Mount Zion with 144 000 people who had the Lamb name and his Father name on their foreheads and i heard a sound from heaven like the roar of rushing waters and loud thunderings like people playing harps they were singing a new song before the throne and before the four living creatures and the elders only the 144000 for whom the price had been paid to redeem them from the earth could learn the song these are men who have not defiled themselves by lying with women for they are virgins and they follow the Lamb wherever he goes they were bought from among mankind to be a rich offering to God and the Lamb they are not liars and they have no fault

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>>42861214

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How often should you text a girl before an upcoming first date? We knew each other at work, she’s at another job now but I got her number and asked her on a date, she said yes, but has flaked two times. I personally think it’s for decent reasons, she already had plans one day with friends, and the second time she didn’t know she was working that day, she works two jobs and was gonna work Monday-Sunday. I offered to hang out next Saturday and she actually said yes and said she’d let me know if anything comes up. Should I text her at all leading up to the date? Like “hey hope your work week is treating you well” or something like that, just so she knows I haven’t forgotten about her

>>42862632
The more you text her the less interested she gets

>>42862632
Are you just gonna spam this thread with bullshit like this? What does this have to do with semen retention?

>>42862632
golden rule: if you ask a girl out once and she refuses never ever ask again as it will make you seem needy, wait for her to offer a date instead. if she does then you are in, if she doesn't then she was just making an excuse to get out of the situation
>Should I text her at all leading up to the date?
no
>just so she knows I haven’t forgotten about her
you already literally asked her thrice, in what world would she think that you forgot about her lmao

>>42862632
>>42862756
You should send a simple text confirming you're still meeting

>>42861486
Heres a thought experiment for you.

Take a well known biblical story like king Davids adultery with Bathsheeba in the bible. How much different would the story have gone if the bible said that king David went to his rooftop, saw Bathsheeba bathing, and decided to masturbate and once he was finished, became ashamed.

We would all read that story and say, yeah thats pretty bad. Pathetic even. What we get instead is him sleeping with Bathsheeba, impregnating her, then killing his friend to cover it up.

Sin is all equal as its rebellion towards God, but there are different consequences to sin. You should be doing neither, but having sex with women is not a substitution for the sin of jerking off as neither is jerking off admissible because you don't have a wife and have sexual urges.

>>42861471
>retards in this general who will defend sitting ALONE IN YOUR ROOM jerking off to PIXELS ON A SCREEN over actual sex
>busting your seed into the void creating nothing
The end result is the same thing essentially for either one

>>42862632
Mine wouldn't shut up even during fights lol
She used to get shit from everyone for texting too much so IMHO thers no too much for the right girl gl

>>42862632
Just retardmaxx it

>>42862632
You can leave the thread and go to Looksmax.org. I think that's more your vibe.

>>42862919
I did something similar worked for me
Which is ironically how I met my 200iq+ girl lol
She loves retard cumbrain maxing as well

>>42862632
Dude, just stop, you're already being needy and overthinking everything. Date's gonna go awful. Work on yourself and take yourself on the date. You'll save money and self respect

>>42862929
LMAO

>>42863003
Zoomers are pathetic lmao
My only hope now is unvax gen alphas

>>42861457
>i will bust every last neuron in my skull and drain my minerals and essence to artificial mental triggers 5 times a day if i have to, before i ever have to deal with a woman in real life.
KEK

>>42861486
>let me spell it out for you, all i'm trying to say that MASTURBATION is WORSE than actual sex.
Brotha, I think you're just lonely. If you had God take away any ounce of loneliness you had in your body and think objectively, you shouldn't do either, but dealing with the average modern women in this day and age (unless she's an actual good, chaste, virtuous women aka basically Amish) then masturbation is infinitely better.

>>42862867
>Sin is all equal
wrong, some sins are worse than others OBVIOUSLY. the real bad thing in the story bring up was the fact that he committed murder, killing someone is worse than masturbating (wow). and masturbating is worse than sex, because hey, at least he created life whereas he could jerk off a thousand times and still have the same amount of new children. even adultery is better than masturbation, but the birthing of children outside of marriage is not something that we even have to worry about these days that much due to the availability and effectiveness of contraception (which don't get me wrong, is still sinful to use)
>>42862915
>The end result is the same thing essentially for either one
only if you have some kind of retarded reductionist world view would you ever think that "masturbating" is literally equal to "sex outside of procreation" based on the fact that neither create children in the end. you are brain dead
>>42863063
>Brotha, I think you're just lonely
that makes zero sense and i think you're just jewish. if i was desperately lonely i would be promoting masturbation as a substitute for relationships, not discouraging it.
>masturbation is infinitely better
more like infinitely worse

>>42863111
>that makes zero sense and i think you're just jewish. if i was desperately lonely i would be promoting masturbation as a substitute for relationships, not discouraging it.
Ok now I understand that you're just retarded. Lonely people desperately want validation from a live human person, basically anything, even a ham-beast from a woman to validate and give substance to their entire existence. Lonely people truly hate masturbation because they feel like complete lonely losers when they do it. You know the vast majority of women would rather stay home and masturbate to their erotic novels than to go on a free dinner date with a 4/10 guy who works at Gamestop. So you should go tell them that they should go on dates with losers

>>42863142
you should call me lonely one more time, surely that's gonna make your (non-)argument stronger bud

>>42863213
You're right... Sorry about that.

Desperate is more the word I'm looking for

>>42863222
thanks for your input, so useful and productive

>>42863244
The pleasure is mine

>bunch of retards nofap thinking it will magically get them a girl
>Meanwhile I got tonnes by gooning over dms
>Actively discouraging anons from getting laid
Y'all niggers gay gl I fell for the incel psyop for 2 decades till I met Mrs femcel who also abstained from masturbating for over 6yrs

>>42862632
I can tell already that it's not going to work between you two based off of how much you pedestalize her.
The answer is definitely and 100% no. Do NOT text her before the date. And if she doesn't show up for the date, save some dignity and don't text her butthurt or, "haha I'm here hope you didn't forget about me!" which I can picture you doing

>>42863111
So lets continue with this thought experiment.

>the real bad thing was the murder

lets remove the murder. David on the rooftop jerking off, or David impregnating his friends wife? Lets say hypothetically the guy never found out. You go from one sin of adultery, to two sins of now you have committed adultery and you are also lying about the childs lineage to another mans face. This is seen as treacherous behavior.

I see this through the lens that im a disgusting gooner and am in need of salvation, and whats two sins of adultery and treachery in comparison to thousands of goon sessions.

You can either take the position that sin is equal, or you can take the position that one is worse than the other. Its easy to say its not equal, but that is pride talking. I know I don't want to be judged the same way I pass judgement. I want good things over my life, and this is probably one of the hardest truths to wrestle with as a human. The other interesting thing about the story of David is that immediately after the fact comes another story that really sets everything up. The prophet Nathan paints a story for David about fair judgement. David then judges the situation harshly and gives a harsh punishment of basically 7 fold wrath. Nathan then tells him that the offender in the story was actually David.

We are all sick.

When can i start manifesting money easily

>>42861486
Fucking simp

>>42863398
>David on the rooftop jerking off, or David impregnating his friends wife?
the latter. both are really, really bad though of course
>you are also lying about the childs lineage to another mans face. This is seen as treacherous behavior.
it is, deception is wrong. getting another man's wife pregnant does not automatically imply that you have to keep that a secret, and i have to once again qualify that it is REALLY BAD if you do either of those things.
deceiving another man might be even worse than adultery to be honest. i don't want to quote Dante because i haven't read him but looking it up now he lists lust as being only in the second circle, whilst fraud and trickery is all the way down in eighth, which is quite a drop. and again, committing adultery does not require you to lie about it forever after
>you can take the position that one is worse than the other. Its easy to say its not equal, but that is pride talking
i said all this as someone who had struggled with masturbation for the past 15 years, i didn't mean to judge anyone, only to get some clarity over this situation and get a discussion going perhaps. sins cannot be equal, murder is obviously worse than cursing someone out for example. and in the same way, masturbation can be and is worse than fornication or adultery

>>42863442
>Fucking simp
you are illiterate, sad

50 days in
The biggest difference is that you control yourself more and never get controlled by your lust, this alone will fix your life, luck was never real the only real thing is you controlling and changing your life

>>42863514
I think you are almost there. All sins are bad, and we as humans are going to say one punishment is more fit for a crime than the other, but in doing so we usually look at the damage caused.

The issue though is you start getting into how you would quantify this. The gooner might look at a man engaged in adultery and say that a man killing that man in anger is justified. The adulterer might say that the gooner is a failure, and his want for pornography is indirectly responsible for sexual exploitation of billions of people, and they are desecrating the temple of God.

My gooning sin is worse than the adultery by this thought. Im hurting more people and hurting God. Put me in a jury of my peers to be tried, and they would say >stop wasting our time faggot and the adulterer if he was murdered would have the defendent serve 5 years for a crime of passion.

I think the scripture however says that both of these sins would be treated the exact same. Looking at this through the lens of man though, we are just naturally going to downplay our own sin and stone to death the other.

>>42863815
>A masturbator CHAD is the opposite of lonely, He embraces solitude and generate his own validation and meaning
the absolute state of /srg/ in 2026

>>42863883
its just a shill ignore em

>>42851661
what do you consider long term to mean like 100+ days?

not jacked off or watched porn for 2 weeks and this short stocky dark hair scater girl was eyeing me up on the train,every 2-5 minutes i would glance over and she wud be staring right at me,even as i walked off the train and moved quickly away like a scared virgin she was will staring me down as i looked back,where was this when i didnt have a partner yet :((

>>42860460
i feel for your situation,best thing to do would find a support group for coomers like SAA 12 step,its full of people who wanna coom but their partners down want to act out that way,you will realize its probably a you issue and not hers

>>42863815
This guy gets it. Congrats on being one of the few that woke up to the programming. The vast majority of men in the west are still under the hypnosis of needing female approval. However, a man who doesn't need either porn or women is vastly superior to the one that does

>>42863974
No he's spot on. Internally he's way more ahead than 95% of SRG desu

>>42864050
i believe were trying to break an addictive habbit the rest is just motivation and hope not to relapse

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>>42864050
>Calls someone who doesn't masturbate and would rather seek relationships instead an incel

>>42864050
That's what I've been saying. 80% of people here are just coomers who want to upgrade their masturbatory habits because they feel like losers whenever they fap to their own tears in their basement

>>42864080
>>Calls someone who doesn't masturbate and would rather seek relationships instead an incel
No that wouldn't make you an incel. That'd just make you a cuck in training. If you want a relationship as a man you already lost the plot

>>42864037
Hes almost there. Being without the need of a woman so you can focus on Gods kingdom is the highest pursuit. Most people however are burning with passion. The apostle Paul was in this foregoing marriage camp im pretty sure.

Completely blocking out women and just masturbating though seems like it misses the mark. The step up from that is blocking women and not masturbating and you get people like Tesla. Seems like you would just be selling yourself short. Then Tesla sold himself short by stepping out of his Orthodox faith he was raised in and basically being fine with hindu rape Gods.

There are lots of pursuits, but yeah I think a lot of people do SR to get a woman that to them would be a bio fleshlight. Some want a partnership. Some want to avoid women entirely.

>>42864276
>Completely blocking out women and just masturbating though seems like it misses the mark. The step up from that is blocking women and not masturbating and you get people like Tesla. Seems like you would just be selling yourself short. Then Tesla sold himself short by stepping out of his Orthodox faith he was raised in and basically being fine with hindu rape Gods.
True, but usually blocking out women and masturbating instead is a stepping stone to the place you describe. The emotional dependency is gone but the physical need is still there. But if you can overcome the emotional dependency you can def overcome the physical need, it'll just be a matter of time when you wake up to how much energy and time you waste on porn (your time is very valuable - it's the core of what makes up YOU)

MGTOW's really know how to bring the mood down,this isnt a women hating thread

>>42864309
I think the only problem is that the emotional dependency is probably something most men experience, and its not something I think you can really choose, just as you can't choose for a woman to like you. Tesla actively had suitors and accomplished a lot. Other greats like Napoleon had love interests and also accomplished a lot despite being a emotionally dependent simp.I don't know about napoleon, but its possible he wasnt a masturbator.

Now the real problem is when you take someone who may have an emotional dependency and throw them in an environment they don't belong in. A catholic priest comes to mind. They get absolutely mind broken and diddle kids because they are a square peg trying to fit in a round hole.

Most men I think are just going to fall into the emotional dependent category. Im not fully convinced they can change who they are, but they can change how they respond to varying degrees. You can go from a turbocuck bluepilled beta orbiter simp to maybe an emotionally dependent sigma male, but never a giga chad tesla retainoor.

>>42864373
*gamma male

>>42864373
>I think the only problem is that the emotional dependency is probably something most men experience, and its not something I think you can really choose, just as you can't choose for a woman to like you. Tesla actively had suitors and accomplished a lot.
As someone who overcome a heavy addiction, emotional dependency is the exact same shit. It's addiction in its purest form. That shit can be overcome

>>42864453
Well said man. This guy gets it. Gynolatry is spiritual laziness. The inner work is the path a man must go

>>42864410
Well there is a spiritual and physical component of it. In the first few chapters of Genesis God creates Eve from man as he saw it wasn't good for him to be alone, and to act as his helper, and populate the earth and subdue it. All very basic functions with the emotional dependency being just a side effect of that natural and spiritual order.

If you can overcome it, then its by some iron deathgrip will if you are secular, or you have a very specific annointed calling like some of the men in the bible. While I admire it, I think its applicable to like .0000001% of people. Absolute units. Just like you have some freaks who want to climb Everest, most people are never going to even care to make it to basecamp 1, and some people are going to hit the summit with no gas. The non masturbated, non eunuch, virgin, maidenless man is a wizard in the true sense of the word.

>>42864728
>The non masturbated, non eunuch, virgin, maidenless man is a wizard in the true sense of the word.
Facts I definitely agree. I do think if you go through most hardship alone and had parents who didn't love you growing up it's easy to see through the illusion. Most people just care what they can get out of you, and this especially goes for relationships with women. They only care about what you do for them. And the moment you accept that you are truly alone, it doesn't matter who comes and goes, or who stays, because you know that you've got you. A man who doesn't need porn, women, substances, comfort items, etc stuff to make life easier is a true wizard for sure

>>42864728
people are emotionally dependent because they've done zero spiritual work. this isn't rocket science, listen anon. the more you add to your life you tie your identity around those things. as an easy example, if you've always been around someone for example and then you lose them you will feel that void. but that void is where you were always supposed to be to conduct the real work but you're afraid of it is all. a sage can stare at a wall all day without going insane because he has no attachments to anything. everyone else does and that's why they are merely kicking the fucking can down the road further and further. eventually the final moment will come at the time of death where the universe will take a snapshot of where they are and if they've done zero work then they will pay the price for that

>>42864756
> I do think if you go through most hardship alone and had parents who didn't love you growing up it's easy to see through the illusion. Most people just care what they can get out of you, and this especially goes for relationships with women.

While I do agree with this mostly I do think there are some exceptions. A husband and wife is an eros love. To know and be known. Inherently self serving to an extent. Storge which is a familial love which is sometimes an obligatory love depending on what type of family you have. Phileo which is a brotherly love, and lastly agape which is sacrificial. The first three loves are sort of conditional. The agape is Jesus dying on the cross and that dude jumping on top of hand grenade for you. One is freely given, but good luck finding that brother that will hop on a grenade for you.

So yes, basically as a man you are alone unless you have your faith in Christ or that really good friend. The graypill is that you can also at least have a bit of give and take with the conditional stuff. Im a bit of a doomer and have swallowed plenty of blackpills, but know that even if I were to ascend to full wizardom and leave humanity behind like I did when bloatmogging, there is still a better way.

The wizard route is much better than just pure unfettered hedonism though that most of society tends to fall into.

>>42865075
but what is the goal of this?

Magnetism is real. I'm 27, I've never had a job, I live with my mother and sisters and I've fucked 11 women and had a relationship with 6 of them. I retain, a woman comes into my life, we fuck, we are together between 6 months to 18 months and then she leaves when I am completely drained. The devil knows my weakness, I always break at a pretty woman.

>>42865119
>The agape is Jesus dying on the cross and that dude jumping on top of hand grenade for you. One is freely given, but good luck finding that brother that will hop on a grenade for you.
Yes, and agape is also considering that everything you do is an act of service towards others. For example, even working out consistently, just know that you're becoming a leader for men to keep hitting the gym. Even at work, everything you do is an act of service for others. No matter if you are a CEO, a fry guy at Five Guys, or a DJ - everything you do is an act of service and consider the salary just a bonus. Start seeing life in this lens and you'll be on the path you're meant to be on. Trust.

>>42865139
Dude, hop off that lust train and go put your energy and time towards more useful things than women. Before you know it you'll be 50 and nothing but empty experiences on your belt. Idk about you but that to me is hell - wasting your potential for people who discarded you when it got inconvenient

>>42865130
That there isn't a goal, or an illusory future thing that you'll get in return. It's to return to who / what you truly are without all of the illusions that control your life unconsciously. It's living in pure freedom, pure sovereignty, to not be controlled or manipulated by an external force, and to exercise your earned free will. That simp who pays and labors everything for his ungrateful gf? He's asleep because he thinks he 'needs her.' The awakened man goes, "I don't need this shit." And walks away. Then the girl of his dreams may or may not show up, but he definitely won't be tolerating nonsense

I fucking hate porn and demons. FUCK PORN AND FUCK SATAN.

>>42865357
Would this post you made be considered agape?

>>42864313
ikr, lowkey schizophrenia

>>42865604
Yes, in a way this can be defined as an act of agape. Even being here I want to put the energy into helping others like I want to be helped, and have been helped. I save all the best, most helpful posts

>>42864453
Finally a good post in this abomination of a thread

>>42865604
Lots of posts are agape on 4chan actually, because it's somewhat ego-less. An anon attempting to help an anon. Two ships in the night. Fuck tripfags

anyone else wanna stop cuz this shit turned them into a femboy
went from a „normal“ guy to posting in trap threads on b and watching gay porn only

>>42864313
This. Those guys make us look like coping incels when we do this (some of us have had sex before with multiple different people actually!). But yeah it shits up the thread. Go to /r9k/ for that

>>42864313
I love women! Doing SR clears my mind and allows me to view them in a much more pure way, letting me appreciate them ever more so. This lame incel movement hyper focuses on the bad ones and assumes they're all the same. Many women do the same to men too, saying we're all evil. Humans ARE evil, but thankfully there are many who try to be less evil, women included. Girls raised by good parents are actually very wonderful people and pleasant to be around, and you can truly connect with them and have a lifelong best friend. You just need to be willing to accept that they don't fit your physical idea of a "perfect girl" (this is the main issue with woman hating types)

Women are emotional bears. You have to respect what bears can do and you have to respect what women can do.

>>42866282
>you can truly connect with them and have a lifelong best friend.
not even an incel but this is simply not true

>>42866286
bears shouldnt have human rights

>>42866162
by stopping I meant cooming, not retaining

>>42866282
Here's the thing. Women's inherent nature will always be selfish, insecure, and chaotic. That's just how they are made. And it's up to men to set clear boundaries. No human life is worth more than the other but they are not our energetic equals. We all have different roles. If a simp lets his wife have his credit card without any clear boundaries, she's just gonna do what she naturally does - and this applies to everything else other than money

>>42866282
What a gay fucking sinp

>>42866667
Kek, agreed

>>42866900
LMAO you can just tell he's never been around women

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Day 38*
>>A great urge was on to me after seeing a naked body...
>>Thing of which I discarded and refused...
>>42861929
>>Perhaps I should have drank coffee... In fact today was the only day in which I had an urge... Strange...
Perhaps might it be that without it I am pretty much like >>ohh the sun... beautiful star in front of my eyes...
While with coffee >>ohgh the sun...THE SLAUGHTERTHEGORETHEGUTSTHEKILLTHEMURDER, YOU OUTRAGEOUS THING HOW DARE YOU TO LAY YOUR ENERGY SUCKING BLAZERS ON TO ME, SHALL CLOUDS COVER ME FROM YOUR BARRAGE AND OF YOUR HEAT I WANT TO HEAR NO MORE, YOU HEAR ME!?!

>>42863815
You're wrong

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>>42867454
The memories are now gone...killed... slaughtered...
The usage of magic was needed, but now I can rest knowing that I might have to kill and slaughter one succubus instead of hundreds...
Good night to fellow retainers.

>>42864050
You've never even done semen retention. You don't know shit

>>42867991
yea. i haven't seen a post as misguided as his in a very long time. man is that awful

>>42868078
bro have you browsed these threads before? We get all kinds of psyops tries daily. The funny thing is if you practice SR for a month will be living the benefits, this is not some kind of snake oil maybe it works kind of thing.

>>42868107
yes. i meant what i said you sperg fucking zoomer. his post is extremely misguided. why do you read into it and turn this into join date zoomer shit retard

>>42866282
Based

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Over a month into sexual transmutation and have noticed some very interesting occurrences.
>My voice is deeper
>Ive been able to overcome my alcohol addiction and have replaced beer with alcohol free beer
>My guitar skills have drastically improved from beginner to intermediate
>Im writing poetry now and have even started writing a novel.
>Im active on tinder and getting matches and likes.
>Im able to play video games now like i used to without starting them over and over
>Im taking steps to change careers from one that i find sucks.
>My development of eros has broadened, rather than just seeking physical attraction its now soul compatibility as well.
>Alot of my projections have stopped and im far more conscious of when its happening.
>When i look to people I would have once lusted over i admire their beauty and smile
>The existential dread from integration of the divine into my psyche is far easier now
>Women in the shop brush up against me
>The mother complex has stopped
>The satvic diet is easier to follow now and im aware of food that causes laziness and lust thanks to Shakti
>Ive had the divine ringing in my ears that once preceded my kundalini awakening
>Ive felt The divine energy again it no longer burns its warming like a fire.
>I was able to understand an archetypal symbol about lust that has been in my head for many many months.
>The succubus visits have all but stopped.
>Im communing with the father, Solomon, the Archangels and my HGE.
>Mercury is far less unstable and somewhat easier to work with.
>Astaroth offered me knowledge which ive desired greatly and i told him about sneeds feed and seed and flat out refused his offer saying my soul wasn't mine to give.
>I'm much more interested in mathematics, Geometry and the divine sciences
>Who I thought was an archetype or tulpa for a year now has turned out to be my very soul Ive found her bros.
semen retention is no joke, so long as its transmuted upwards into generative purposes channeling creativity.

>>42868198
how many days buddy

>>42868292
Prolactin makes 99% of men just wanna lay down on their couch and take a nap. Lying little liar.

>>42868127
what a feminine post, lmao

>>42868352
No the main function is to sedate you. Evolutionary speaking, it encourages males to stay at home instead of flinging their dicks into different females.

This is why I call prolactin the bitch hormone.

>>42868292
Gooning is just a massive waste of time. End of.

>>42868397
And in that 40 mins cuddled up with a woman after nutting in her you've fallen asleep

>>42868427
That's what sexual desire really comes from. Women represent the subconscious - aka unconscious sleep. When you have sex and nut, you're symbolically entering her womb again and drifting into unconscious sleep. You become less of a master of your own fate, and slowly become a victim of automated happenings

Stop interacting with the residential sr "enlightened" gooner tranny that hasn't surpassed a week of sr but seems to know best. Also why do you still come here after months? I remember you posting here last winter, are you really that addicted to our collective ball magnetism

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>>42851182
I swear I am demonically possessed. even tho baptised and confirmed.

since i was 8 a pale genie tortured me but was alright, since my mum scared me being an alcoholic telling me to come and turn off and on the TV.

I got nightmares every night and in my teens the female genie stalked me with this pale demon that I had to hide from, when I started doing ju jitsu in my teens she would let me beat up the monster and not hide from it. but still gave me dreams where in my local town i'd wander around until I found her, then she'd scream at me like a banshee until I woke up. primordial fear.

guess im a unwitting moonchild with a demon, like aleister crowley wrote about, except I didnt have to be sodomised to make it happen, I just needed some child abuse.

and apparently im an ultimate magical being just to let you know.

I've never had any benefits from keeping in my semen but jacked off 5 days straight to what I found hot. about 5 times a day, mind you i'm pretty healthy and young. mostly to hentai tho so i dont effect any rl women.

also im from the UK.

>>42863744
It's not in terms of what's worse - the gooner could technically just watch AI porn or hentai and say it's the most ethical. But masturbation is clearly the safer and better option in most cases. Personally for me sex is better if the girl was really hot and there were no strings attached. But given the choice between a mid-girl who's got a meh body and staying at home I'd rather stay at home and protect my energy. If I work out consistently she better be hot or else I cbf

>>42868635
Sorry

>>42868635
Is that actually the same person as the guy who admitted to being a tranny? The choice of images did remind me of that degenerate but I wasn’t sure.

>>42868198
>Tinder
Lol
O
L

Good luck all the women on there are trash at least when I was on it

Also this threads really toxic lol y'all backed up as fuck

>>42868914
LOL it's always these chumps that are on it for a month that spout all this nonsense. It's basically just a form of internet bragging. They think they achieved some sort of milestone because they haven't done anything remotely difficult in their entire lives

>>42868913
How big are the boobies?
I'm so horny from no regular sex for months aaaa nohomo

>>42868922
Yeah I never got anywhere with the apps
Facebook is the only one I had luck on and it was basically a fluke

If you go online or use any app for dating or meeting women, it's almost guaranteed that you'll end up with a girl that's nowhere nearly as good as you. Women basically own the digital realm - social media, tinder, hinge, etc. Best way to meet women is to get good at something and be in a place where you can demonstrate that skill. That's how God intended. For instance, if you're in a band, women will literally come stalk you after your show. Second best is in person through friends / family - boring, lame route but it works. Third best is approaching at socially acceptable places - bars, clubs, etc - easy to meet women but a lot of them just want attention and forget about you. Fourth is cold approaching on the street. Fifth is a dating app - just the fact that women have to sift through 200 likes per hour and get bombarded with messages, you're less likely to be seen - also it's just desperate energy being on there anyway. Like you have nothing better to do than to look for pussy on an app. And you notice how it goes from least desperate to most desperate? This is no coincidence

>>42868985
The dating apps also don't really show any social proof. Im in a bible study, and I think some of the women that I very rarely engage with might be interested in me based off social proof. All the guys in the group appear to have a respect and liking for me. They will pull me from other conversations and im good at making everyone laugh, even the women.

On a dating app, even with a good profile I don't stick out that much. In real life though people quickly find out im a bit of a character and have been socially approved by others, and if I wasn't I would be off in the corner. The band thing, or being some type of entertainer, athlete, etc is basically a cheat code. Women want someone who could be perceived as a main character even if that person is a total piece of shit over a better, but boring and stable guy.

>>42869058
Kek I'm the opposite. Shit in life, but do well on apps

>>42868675
Yup, see you next week <3

>>42869090
On a dating app it's like you're destined to just put yourself out there and hope you're chosen. Whereas in real life you face the necessary friction of seeing what you want and going after it, and facing rejection, building real world thinking on your feet conversation. That's why you can't truly be masculine unless you get off the apps

>>42869090
Are you a very good looking guy or do you have a very good looking profile? I am also curious what your text game is like? On the apps my text game is fucking horrendous. If im texting a group though its immaculate if not probably the best. In person is also good. In a group of people also extremely good. I do the apps out of habit and to supplement, but im horrible with them.

I imagine theres some good looking guys who are deathly boring. My moms ex boyfriend was like this. Gigachad lawyer but one of the most boring and assholeish guys I have met. He dumped her and she married his shorter, nicer smarter, charismatic lawyer friend. Women will definitely choose good looks first and foremost over everything else like in the case of my mom.

>>42869224
Bro you don't need to be really good looking to do alright on an app. Much of it is entirely dependent on your algorithm. I'm not sure how it works but the algorithm calculates how many swipes you get, how many times you swipe on others, how long on average someone looks at your profile for etc. Back in the day you could swipe right on everyone and just ignore the fuglies but now it punishes you for that. Beyond that don't be a bitch to the algorithm and also, this doesn't belong on SR

>>42869224
>>42869719
Yes you have to keep very important tabs on your elo. How many attractive people you deny, how many responses back you get off of your openers, how many swipes you get and if you answer back, etc
If you get reported once as a guy you're banished to the "land of the undesirables" where the most argumentative/fat chicks/unagreeable people are

The last 20 posts have been trash and you all need to step up your fucking game.
Wake the fuck up you stupid gooners that think abusing the body for hedonism will benefit you at all.
Literally speaking the entire purpose of life is to master the will and to use the will to improve the world

>>42869872
>where the most argumentative/fat chicks/unagreeable people are
God damn, that's what happened the last time I went on a dating app, think it was Bumble. Went on one date and the girl did not look anything like her pics. I ended up ghosting her and no matter how much I swiped all they gave me was 2/10s to swipe on, maybe a 4/10 if I was lucky. Then I realized I don't need to do this shit, deleted all the apps and don't even entertain downloading one again. My life is way better and relationships happen naturally. Right now I'm avoiding them actively although I'm open to friendship with women. Ironically I'm in the sweetspot where I have attractive female friends / acquaintances that I flirt with but never go beyond that because I have more important shit to do

>>42869881
You'e 100% correct. The price of lust is willpower. It erodes every time you give in.

Just relapsed two days in a row after a long streak. Feeling like absolute shit. How the fuck am I supposed to beat this addiction.

>>42870039
>You'e 100% correct. The price of lust is willpower. It erodes every time you give in.
well said. that's the entire formula
>>42870182
you're supposed to chip away at the boulder of addiction over and over time after time. extend the window of time from when an urge lands to when you feel like giving in. that is what transforms you. remaining unmoved for as long as possible when an urge or anything unpleasant lands in your mind. over time the boulders will decrease in size because they have to by law. if you chip away at anything in the mind it becomes less.

to clarify, even hardcore long term retainers who have hardly any chance of falling backwards still have to chip away at all the other boulders in their mind for other stuff in life. they aren't safe just because they are doing well in sr. no lol, there's boulders for all sorts of stuff in life in the mind. they're different for everyone in terms of categories and size but this is what you're supposed to use your valuable human time on. chip away at all the garbage in your mind.

i'm currently working on a giant boulder that is far more challenging than my sr journey ever was. because it's painful and isn't a primal sexual urge. i do well by nature with sexual urge boulders or at least i would consider myself advanced. i don't do well with other purely mental boulders which maybe you are advanced in whereas i'm not. i'm saying this to let you know that this work is no different no matter what you're working on. so try to change your view on this addiction that you're struggling with and view it like a scientist or surgeon would, with very careful precision

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I am reading the best SR adjacent book i have ever found.
"taoist secrets of love" by Mantak Chia. It goes further than simple SR and offers left hand path methods for people who are in relationships to retain and experience a different, higher sexuality.

I wouldn't advise anyone to start there tho, i think it's best to start with a few years of chastity and strict right hand path SR / celibacy. But at some point you have to ask yourself if you want to remain celibate forever or start a familly.

Anyway, i feel like after reading this book it helped deepen my understanding of some stuff. And found by myself the answer to a few answers to commonly asked questions / critics:

>SR can cause prostate cancer
The problem arise when someone practice chastity but at the same time is constantly obsessing over sex and living in sexual frustration. While urges can happen, if you're really struggling badly against yourself all the time, fantasizing, then you're better not being too strict with yourself as this creates dynamics which are harmful to the body. You should not fantasize and lust in your mind when doing SR. It can happen once in a while but it should be regular behaviour.

Also note that i read a NPC article on the topic,according to them ejaculation releases "happy hormones", relaxes you and exercice the prostate. According to this highly NPC article, you should ejaculate.... 21 times a month!
this is obviously absolutely horrible. If you're a beginner with SR, consider first 1 a week, then 1 every 10 days, then 1 every 2 weeks, then finally 1 every month (which is starting to be good).

People who do SR just blindly reject women and sex, but the reality is much more nuanced. However, the right hand path of celibacy and complete chastity is definitively the easiest, most efficient, and straight way forward to build up energy and increase spiritual progress. You need to channel the energy after a certain period otherwise you're just going to loop endlessly

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Regular ejaculation is nothing more than a form of suicide, just like cigarettes, alcohol and over eating. You're absolutely right for thinking that way. Ejaculation is sacrificing your vital force in an animal reflex for the sake of a very intense and short lived primal pleasure. This is a way to numb yourself out, like a drug.

>>42870326
From your pic, I remember one time I busted a fat nut in my ex and while it felt really good, deep within me, like on a spiritual level I knew that I shouldn't be doing that. Call it intuition but anons who say that regular sex is ok because you're 'getting energy in return' is cap. I think actual sex is probably worse. And thing was she was very manipulative, and sex is one of the ways they use to control you. I didn't realize it at the time because I was low key a simp, but looking back, everything she did was to try to control or manipulate me in some way.

>>42870404
>>42870404
>fat nut in my ex and while it felt really good, deep within me, like on a spiritual level I knew that I shouldn't be doing that
that's how my SR journey started. I would look at myself in the mirror after gooning and feel something was off. Felt like life force was gone.I did know very little at the time about energy, health, and SR. I just had read one or 2 spiritual books, one of them "life of the masters" (very famous book) and in one part of the book they mention that basically aging isn't a fatality, but the result of the spiritual state of men. And that "expelling vital fluids" regularly through sex led man to a state of shallowness and decrepitude.
At the time i thought what the hell, but it made me question it, nothing more. Eventually i started getting intuitions, like the very clear feeling i fucked up ejaculating. Initially i dismissed it, eventually i accepted it and tried to make sense of it.

>>42870404
>And thing was she was very manipulative, and sex is one of the ways they use to control you. I didn't realize it at the time because I was low key a simp, but looking back, everything she did was to try to control or manipulate me in some way.
Subconsciously women realize that once you empty yourself in them they take some of your power away and tame you. I can't say i know exactly what's going on in women's head but that's a clear thing. Also there is the need to feel like they are satisfying you, but they get energy from it and they know it tames the man. Make him submissive to her.

>>42866900
>>42866892
>>42866290
Three immediately, wow.

rip my ai genning
always leads to gooning in the end
this time's the god streak

>>42868725
>baptised and confirmed
Sounds very Catholic, oh man... Unless you place your faith in Christ alone for salvation, you're not saved. That's the only thing that saves you. Water and some human telling you you're saved doesn't make a difference. Only faith in Christ does.

>>42870326
Mantak Chia is honestly a huge distraction and cop out from SR. At best it's a cope for married guys to try and get SR gains, but single men are just gonna end up nutting in some jezebel if they try this nonsense irl.

Experienced retainers will tell you just being around women weakens your voice, legs, turns you into a simp, and drains you anyway, just slower. The last thing that should be on your mind on SR is trying to coom without cooming like he teaches.

>>42851779
Did a 77 day streak a while back, and then also a 70 day streak really recently. But have been struggling lately. On day 2 currently, feel like this one will be a long one.

>>42870881
what benefits did you see on the 77-day streak?

>>42870569
>I can't say i know exactly what's going on in women's head but that's a clear thing. Also there is the need to feel like they are satisfying you, but they get energy from it and they know it tames the man. Make him submissive to her.
100%, that's exactly it. Also they know that low key everything is a transaction, now you owe her. And since it wasn't explicitly stated, but rather more implicitly "since you're 'her boyfriend" she can basically manipulate you to do anything she wants since there's no clear boundary on what you won't do for her, so she'll keep pushing it.

>>42870876
i guess you forgot about your own belief while rationalising your porn addiction
The Book of Thomas the Contender
"And it has fettered them with its chains and bound all their limbs with the bitterness of the bondage of lust for those visible things that will decay and change and swerve by impulse."
gnosis.org/naghamm/bookt.html

>>42870876
>if having a ballsack full of semen is what defines you as a person
No wonder you always throw tantrums. You're supposed to move past this stage after the first streak. Did no one tell you? Kek.

>>42870783
>Experienced retainers will tell you just being around women weakens your voice, legs, turns you into a simp, and drains you anyway, just slower. The last thing that should be on your mind on SR is trying to coom without cooming like he teaches.
Iron sharpens iron so men should hang around men more than women, if not be in solitude working on his purpose. Women naturally want to soften the men they're around, even if just friends. For example they'll refer to their guy friends as "girllll please" to maintain the status

I got that fat sack stack

>>42870876
It shouldn't define you, but the extra energy does help. And it helps to have a support group in a world of temptations

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Notable retainers:
Tesla
Hitler
Gurdjieff
Mike Tyson
Steve Jobs
Nietzsche
Plato
Manson

Who are some other GOATs I'm missing?

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>>42871001
>Who are some other GOATs I'm missing?
You're missing The Lion.

>>42870641
This.

>>42870783
So are you going to live by your own standards and never ever approach women ever again? do you plan to join a male only monk community or live as an hermit while meditating 6 hours a day to develop super human powers?
Or are you just venting online?

>>42870950
>should hang around men more than women
This is 1000% true. Avoid women at all costs.

>>42871040
There's nothing to gain from them, especially in 2026. Only a loss. The only winning move is to not play. Hold the line gents.

>>42871075
+1

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>>42870561
>I would look at myself in the mirror after gooning

when i was a wanker i sometimes looked into the mirror WHILE onany and i LOVED to see myself. in porn i only watched videos with girls exclusively, i could never stand the sight of any other man but me in a sexual content. filming us while having sex and looking in the mirror fucking my wife. i LOVE this. i live seeing myself! its really hard to NOT ejaculate

i also LOVE to look at myself in the mirror after fucking / wanking and still do. its so interesting to read other SR'ers view on this whole topic. if i hadnt lurked here so much i would still believe being a wanker and cumming multiple times a day is GOOD for me...!

i know abstaining completely probably would be better as i also "lose" the slippery seminal fluid from the prostate but at least i can keep the seed in for now

>>42871216
Post your terabytes of lesbian porn.

>>42871258
Post your tranny bussy.

>>42871258
>>it shouldn't define you, but... it does
>this type of double-mindedness will keep you confined to delusions forever.

There are different baby steps of faith. If I could simply manifest enlightenment by snapping my fingers, I'd do it. Yes, sr is powerful because of the belief of it. The sacrifice and sunk cost fallacy make the benefits borderline profound. At a certain point you realize it's all mind over matter. Reality is mental, after all. You're not understanding the different paradigms of seekers and where they stand. For a homeless person, a hot meal made by someone who cares about them could very well be a transcendental experience whereas for many people that could be a baseline, every day experience.

>>42870641
>Baptism, which corresponds to this, now saves you
>1 Peter 3:21
>Peter said to them, “Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ so that your sins may be forgiven; and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
>acts 2:38
Yikes, prottie hasn’t read his Bible in a while.
>They who have my commandments and keep them are those who love me; and those who love me will be loved by my Father, and I will love them and reveal myself to them.
>john 14:21
>So faith by itself, if it has no works, is dead.
>james 2:17
Ah geez sure sounds like you have to DO things in order to be saved rather than just sitting on your ass

>>42870876
So let’s set the record straight for any lurkers who don’t recognize this tranny. This guy was in here a few months ago talking about how he loves gooning and how sr doesn’t do anything. He was apparently convinced by some other anon to actually try SR and when he couldn’t go for longer than a week he gave up and quit. He’s now back peddling the same shit as before.

The only reason he wants you to stop doing sr is because he failed horribly at it. He’s literally a crab in a bucket trying to keep you from escaping the bucket.

>>42871360
>he will be sustained through a delusion of security and safety, that someone will be there to provide for him.
>this "transcendental experience" is a glimmer of false hope
You're retarded. Real change can come through energetic alignment. Every person is basically a tabula rasa, we align to different energetic vibrational states and our immediate reality reflects that. This is the whole idea of any inner work/magic/religion/belief/alchemy/prayer/ritual is that it's possible to manipulate your energetic reality to experience an experiential reality

my psychic powers and being calm at all times is comeing back thanks to SR!
i would buy that for a dollar!
just one week in and all i see are friendly faces.
cummaxx inside , not outside ! Mkay?

>>42871401
Yeah he's tried more than once, I actually feel bad for them a little. I don't mind their dialogue, it's good to hear multiple sides to an idea. I actually did enjoy their dissection of Adam and Eve that he was talking about last winter. (Sr seems to give me exceptional recall and I can remember around 70% of everything I read)
But yeah, the style is always some goth/sad looking girl, talking about deeper than surface levels of the bible(good, but sometimes slightly delusional), and talking about how good they feel being degenerate and how that makes them superior to sr practitioners(bad)

>>42871401
those trolls are the worst. they're only here because they genuinely can't do sr. so not only are they not funny but pathetic

>>42871001
I can't think of any reason to include CIA crisis actor Charles Manson on this list at all.

>>42871162
it's even more fucked up these years because even if you enter the room with the biggest sack ever seen in history it doesn't matter because they will still expect you to do all the legwork of courting them. they're total cancer like beyond imagination

>>42871392
John 3:5 + Acts 2:38 = Titus 3:5-7

>>42871649
>and you say it as if its a bad thing
lmfao it's an insanely bad thing retard. you're a self touching incel addict. you can't go without touching yourself, you are an incel

This is a daily reminder to my SR brothers to also practice intermittent fasting and yoga (stretching)

>>42871649
you're mentally retarded tranny. All your intellectual gibberish isn't going to change a single inch of reality. Reality is ejaculating drains the fuck out of you. Because your sperm (which is supposed to go into a female) is a potent vital fluid that has the ability to generate a new human being. It contains the blueprint for every organ, every cell and the energy to kickstart a new life.
Sperms are the real drain. To produce sperm cells the body goes deep into the energy.

>>42871649
>a fancy term, but i believe that what you are trying to describe is something like an artificial hive reality, where you and others construct a cult and then through this cult, you validate each other.

What the actual hell are you talking about. I'm talking about your exact place in time and space, as in your current life situation. It is the way that it is based off a reflection of the current variables of your current vibrational essence. Just as your location, temperature, body composition, etc are all physical variables that are constructing your reality, thoughts, mood, computation, etc that is making up your current mental reality, and it gets more abstract and less abstract until you have all the variables to exist in a somewhat coherent dream state of consciousness, also known as your day to day life and experiences.

Knowing how to change and manipulate these variables and other entities' variables is literally what magic is.


>its cute, but also as i stated, you will remain within the clutches of your own delusions till the day you die, because this energetic alignment is not done on the basis of being connected to your higher state, but instead you are vibrationally aligned with incels who worship women day and night, then base their whole existence around chasing them

Thank you for saying I'm cute, but you have to admit this portion of your post is all projection. There are infinite reasons to abstain. There have been masters that have no problem in indulging in every degenerate practice known to man(okay maybe not all of them), and there are masters who are completely ascetics.

>>42871739
fuck off with the reddit spacing