i dont believe in aliens/UFOs anymorewhat makes you a believer still
They're real but the truth is lame probsNot aliens, just drone technology before we really knew about it.
>>42862808what makes you a believer?
>>42862810Because there's evidence but no one cares since it's probably something every country is experimenting with, and if it wasn't a thing before, it is now because we seen these dorks also like making the fucking eye of Sauron real lol
>>42862801>believer I literally saw UFOs on several occasions, so I'm not a "believer". I saw it, it's real, I know it. Simple as.
>>42862842you saw things on the sky on this century?WOW
I believe in Intelligence! Intelligence, information and interaction aka communication! That is all.
>>42862801What makes you think that they're not real?
>>42862801reptilians are realhttps://bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/historia_humanidad83.htm
>>42862808yep,is all big dronesto believe aliens would fly like assholes on our skies is so whimsical is not even funny
>>42862801UFOs are DMT entitieshttps://youtube.com/watch?v=e2RQsVuWRaw
>>42862801Politicians told me that the biggest drop ever is coming in 2 more weeks, and I believe them.
>>42862801If there are no aliens, then there would have to be a breakaway civilization. People have seen crazy shit decades ago that mainstream science still can’t explain and we seemingly can’t produce. So science would have to be far advanced long ago and kept from the mainstream. Could be(?)
>>42862801Well my wife and I saw one before like 5 years ago. One night we were driving northwest on state route 8 in Tennessee coming from Chattanooga to McMinnville. It was very bright, massive and couldn't have been explained by human tech. It looked like a giant flying lamp or flashlight. I went into a huge UFO research binge after and found some cool stuff. Here is my favorite video of all time:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6s5RwqnnLMI think that you need arguments that it was not drones that people have been seeing. If you want that, why not look into the recent past?1948 US military pilot falls out of the sky after chasing UFO:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNMe2Gfniqg1953 complete dissapearence of 2 US military jet pilots and their aircraft:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZTYhwwq4tcWhy not look into cases for when before conventional flight was even invented?1897 Aurora, Texas UFO crash: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nt8IqgICtls1561 Nuremburg UFO battle (pic related): Here is the wiki article and the translation:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1561_celestial_phenomenon_over_Nuremberg1639 Massachussets Bay Colony UFO abduction:https://www.history.com/articles/americas-first-ufo-sighting1522 and 1609 Korean UFOs:https://laseoulite.substack.com/p/ufo-sightings-in-old-joseon
>>42862801i had a close encounter as a child so i know its real and i want to know more about it
>"look all the videos the goverment released!">is all fucked up drones in the middle east of all places kek
>>42862801Pascal's wager, basically>I believe + They existmy paradigm of reality is not completely shook from the news, and my knowledge from studying helps me to understand and cope.>I believe + They don't existI'm the weirdo who gets a bit TOO into aliens. potential loss of social standing>I don't believe + They existparadigm of reality is completely shattered, creating panic and distress during the uncertain times.>I don't believe + They don't existlife goes on. nothing gained or lost
>>42862801bump
Durrrrrrr
>>42862801an old friend of mines father owned a piece of technology that is far more advanced than anything ive seen in the public domain 30 years later. it was essentially a drone craft in the shape of a trashcan. cylindrical, silver. it moved and flew like a modern drone, with him inside of it.this tech today would be industry-changing at every level and would probably sink the oil market within a year, which is why i think it is being hidden from the public. it would also make borders impossible to police. if everyone is flying around how do you stop immigrants with flying trashcans?whatever it was, wherever he got it from, i don't think it was alien. but it was definitely 30 years ahead of its time in the 1990's.
>>42863335 Breakaway civ is pure cope. Just look at all the different types of aliens and their crazy ships or whatever these objects are. You've got everything from classic saucers to organic crap to balls of light to immaterial structures, etc. They're most likely from a different dimension or something.
>>42863206this is a Grok AI iceberg btw
>>42862801It's easy to believe when I've seen 2 of them. I can't say if they was aliens or not but the was 100% not shaped like any existing technology nor did they move like anything existing.
>>42862801They're not aliens (extra terrestrials), they're future humans time travelling to the past. That's why they're interested in us, that's why they're adapted to our atmosphere/gravity, and that's why they can breed with us.
>>42862801aliens are real, there are unlimited civilizations out there from other dimensions
>>42865860>i saw flying things in the current centuryWOW!
It's just swamp gas brah - US Army 1950- 1970.Pic related is swamp gas.
>>42865961>they're future humans time travelling to the pastYeah I'm not buying it
>>42866134this is what all is all about,huh?look at that shit
saw one with entire family and friends of family at night, watched it for a good ten minutes behaving like no known man-made aircraft. idk if aliens but UFOs yeah. never thought they were real until i saw it. never thought Christ was real either, until.
>>42862801I've seen one up close with my own eyes
>>42864581Any pics?
>>42866647Excuse me, are you responsible for this image? There's been a grave error that can't be overlooked. I don't see my Chud Bluski homies anywhere on this fucking timeline. Where. Are. They. This must be corrected at once.
It's mathematically impossible for us to be alone in the Universe.
>>42862801We don't care what you think Dave
>>42868410It's mathematically impossible to be able to cruise the kuiper belt but crash in Milagritos,New mexico
>>42868472I never said they're here, i said they exist. If they're here or not is another question
>>42862801Last night I dreamt I was in an Atlantean city, which was about to flood. The Atlanteans were sitting around saying we are doomed, whereas I was just grabbing a floatation device and getting the fuck out of of the valley. So they flooded and I escaped. I wandered around a bit, and found a farm. The people there invited me to stay with them. A father and his daughters and all their animals. The animals were very cute and intelligent. Then I started talking about time travel, I told them I was time traveling and experiencing my own past and future simultaneously. At that point, I brought up the idea of retrocausality, and wondered if I could change my future by doing things in the past, since I was clearly changing my past by visiting it with my knowledge from the future.When I started talking about that, literally an angel of death appeared (who looked like Azreal), pointed her sword at me, and told me not another word. I could see her, but they couldn't, and time seemed to cease. I acquiesced to her demand. Then time started shifting. I asked the reality where the city of Atlantis was, and in the dream we were in the Italian peninsula, but it showed me a map of the world and I saw settlement in the American west in the Utah area, I saw settlement in Spain, and the settlement in Italy, which is the one that had flooded in my dream. I asked who had built that city, and it told me Adam had done it. The city had massive skyscrapers, the whole thing was in stilts over the valley, very technological compared to the landscape.
>>42868582Then I was leaving the Atlantean dream, and no joke I was on the inside of a tesseract, in dreamland hyperspace. Then I was skipping through startgates and jumping between platforms which were stargates in hyperspace, and after maybe a dozen stargates I was in a reality that I thought I recognized as Sirius. I saw someone I knew from highschool there, and other people who seemed to know me. They said from their vantage point they could see all the events in my life. When they said that, I saw a tree, but instead of leaves all the branches were covered with small golden orbs. I was still coming down from the hyperspatial tesseract, seeing multiple dimensions of space and time overlapping. I asked one of the entities if they were good at math, and they said yes. I described an invention I have been working on, utilizing sets of counter directional double helix antenna to control a magnetic field inside a tube. They understood what I was describing and sketched it out, and showed me the relation between the phases in the coils and the resulting magnetic fields within the tube, which was amazingly cool.Then I started jumping through hyperspace again, I could go practically everywhere. I said I wanted to go visit the lifetime of someone I know, and I crashed into her apartment and encountered scenes of her life with her boyfriend. He came into the dream and said he saw me as a shadow entity, I looked at my arm and it seemed like this gossamer energy body, humanoid in shape but somewhat grey/white. I started telling him about my wants to find a girl, and he said they would come to me when I started creating stuff. Then I tried to manifest my coil design out of the rocks on the ground, attempting to pull them out into wires wrapped in a tube, but the form I manifested seemed more like a macroscopic molecular form that the machine I was trying to build. As I woke up from the dream, I said I don't just want girls, I want the girl who loves me.
>>42868625So before I had these dreams, last night I was trying to think of the coil geometry and field geometry I was trying to build, and my telepathic ethereal body was manifesting itself as the device, but I also started having thoughts that my energy body could withstand this type of thing, but my human body needed me to use my telepathy to think thoughts that were harmonious with the life force and molecular geometry of my life, rather than a machine. I started contemplating how my triple counter directional double helix design was similar to the DNA molecule, if it were to have 6 strands, but since they were counter rotational they weren't totally harmonious with the genetic structure, so I made a point to think of the geometry that would be a harmonious genetic structure of 3 double helices wrapped on the same point. I could conceive of the 6 stranded dna concept, but wondered what the 12 stranded concept people talk about would be, and thought maybe it was some type of hyperspatial fractal pair to the 6 strand helix. Then I wondered, isn't 7 Gods number, not 6? is 6 and 12 stranded DNA really the goal? But I didn't know of a 7 stranded geometry that I could make work. When I was having these thougths, I saw the ethereal thought from merge with the dna helix in my body and pack the 6 stranded version together as a combination of the physical and etheric/telepathic body.I think the pleiadians tried to help me with a 7 pointed star energy formation at one point, but I had rejected their healing attempt, which is regrettable.So previously in the day, I was perceiving actual elecromagnetic spectral information of the space I was occupying. I had gotten a channel about the introduction of graphene nanotechnology through the vaccine, and was getting paranoid about 5g wifi and how the internet information grid would be antithetical to life supporting energy structures due the sensitivity of the telepathic body when opened to perceiving more of the spectrum.
>>42868666So when I was perceiving this energy within the area I was able to stretch my awareness a bit to encompass the entire house I was in, seeing it from the energy flowing through the walls. Then my left hand side of the energy body made a form with its finger and its like my etheric body moved and started vibrating the shit out of the space around me manifesting its hand gesture in front of me, basically pointing some fingers around, and no joke I felt like I was on the verge of a telekinetic breakthrough into real space.All this from thought experiments about the maxwell force tensor and how to achieve telekinetic near field force momentum transfers to metals and dielectrics through a combination of magnetic and electric fields.Thanks for reading my blog.The meme I was thinking of, is "imagine how bad things really are", except I was thinking the opposite version. "Imagine how amazing things really are". I've discovered so much, its all so amazing, I wish I had centuries to explore, human potential is unlimited. I fear I won't have as much of a normal life span as most people though. While I found amazing truths, I took great risks to my health and body in the process, using drugs, smoking, disregarding my own life and future due to being suicidal at the time. But now I see so much, so many amazing possibilities, and I know that all my painful and reckless experiments were unnecessary to reach it. If I could go back I would take the slow and steady path of hard work, meditation, studying, and I would still have arrived at the same place, but in a much more fulfilled way.Imagine how amazing everything really is.
>>42868472Shut the fuck up about the kuiper belt, you're such a retard it's unreal
>>42862801UFO activity has always been a distraction to keep attention away from US weapons development. >Roswell was a downed Army balloon designed to detect Soviet nuclear tests.>Project Blue Book coincides with several spy/stealth aircraft programs. >Modern government 'sightings' are covering for advanced drone testsAy lmaos are probably real, the universe is too vast for us to be alone, but I doubt they're regularly visiting Earth.
>>42868323 These kinds of images never pretend to have all the answers.
>>42868794they are retards who still bring up roswell in UFO discussions
>>42862801I was driving down a highway and saw a 100 ft cylinder UFO. It was right over the highway about 300 ft away. Morning traffic. I reported it to a couple of UFO reporting orgs and it was submitted to the FBI. It looked like a 737 with no wings or tail, even had the portholes. But there was a lot of high strangeness aswell, like when we were driving towards it, I could not see it, it wasn't until my son said there is an airplane that's hovering over there, that I could see it, sort of. At first it looked like something that was trying to look like an airplane. Then I looked again and I saw the cylinder. There was like a mirage around the bottom and "back end of it." Never thought of stopping. Taking out my phone and taking a video picture. My son and I were sort of just laughing and saying Whoa! That's cool! Very outside the norm for me. Thinking now I would have stopped, taken the best UFO video ever, made a lot of money. But non of that entered my mind. It also had a sense of immense power to it, sort of like if you stand next to an electrical transformer on the ground and it's just humming with electricity. The UFO was just sort of shaking, with an electric feel and crackling with red and blue lighting streaks with all that mirage around the bottom. I was never really into UFOs but that thing, how it could change shape and all that power. I have no idea what they are, but if the FBI or Gov is trying to figure this stuff out, God help them. This picture was made by the Air Force during Blue Book, but it looks like the UFO I saw. Had the windows looking panels in the front, the color was dull iron on the bottom, shiny silver on top, more windows on the side.
>>42862801You don't get to choose reality by what you choose to believe in. Belief is a stupid concept. It's a decision to quit investigating and just guess instead. Dumb.It doesn't matter whether you believe or not, the beings are attending to the human populations here on earth. It is well within the ability of their technology to interfere with the ability of the average human to remember the events during the routine visits. If you see their vehicles in the sky do you get to choose to not believe just because you have no physical evidence after the fact?Belief is a sign that you don't have significant ability to manage and organize your own thoughts, perceptions. and dreams.. and it is within this last category that you have been burying your own memories of your own interactions with the beings from the stars. Try to remember. Examine the memories.
>>42865961>they're future humans time travelling to the past. That's why they're interested in us, that's why they're adapted to our atmosphere/gravity, and that's why they can breed with us.so SEXPATS from the future?
>>42865961Self-cest just became possible
>>42862801Aliens are demons and are locked in tartarus, ufos are demonic technology used by the masonic government
>>42864023That's why the trick is to neither believe nor don't believe so it wouldn't matter whether it exists or doesn't exist
>>42869538childhood end book plotshut up
>>42862801it got pretty gay that's for sure.How Infeel about it now, I wonder if that's how normies always saw UFO people in the first place.Can't explain those cattle or human mutilation though. That's real and it doesn't seem like anything good is the cause.
>>42870630watch the movie endanraged species
>>42862801 UFOs actually exist, but that does not mean they come from outer space. The more you look into the subject, the less viable the extraterrestrial hypothesis appears. Intelligence agencies seem to view this phenomenon through the lens of ultraterrestrials and Vallee's control system. Check the AAWSAP findings for a relevant reference. There is also a significant occult connection.
>>42864581no, but this is similar, although very primitive to what i saw in the 90's. what i saw was 10-20 years ahead of this, and much fasterhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJARrc40imk
>>42868301sorry, this was for you >>42870944
>>42862801I know, it's not -that- convincing and I will not blame anyone believing otherwise, it's fair enough, but the combined pile of evidence staring at us is good enough for me. That, and a close family member is an experiencer.
>>42869538Anyone using terminology referencing demons is simply retarded.There's no work around. If your world view was packaged up in indoctrination narrative that you were inundated with in your early life, to such extent that you never learned how to engage in critical thinking, then you fit the literal definition of the word retarded. This is not simply a matter of you not being able to participate in a conversation among grown ups, this is a matter of you being unable to participate in conversation among the sane.
>>42868693Awesome, bro! Thanks for the effort posts, it's truly fascinating reading.
https://libraryofrickandria.com/unidentified/
>>42862801The fact that I can hear bits of their idle chatter.>>42870855They are agents of the matrix. Demons, angels, whatever. They are not fucking good. Not at all.
>>42862842>literally saw UFOs on several occasions, so I'm not a "believer". I saw it, it's real, I know it. Simple as.You don't know what you've seenYou are a fool
>>42862801because this planet is the only one with lifeif you can call it lifehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yaEwcmrR4Q&list=RD9yaEwcmrR4Q&start_radio=1&pp=ygUPbGFkeXRyb24gZ2hvc3RzoAcB
>>42870855>occult connectionlol
>>42866647Notice that they're almost all humanoid. Life on Earth is more creative than that. The fact they're humanoid points to them being related to us - perhaps gene splicing/augmentation (e.g. reptilians, insectoids, etc.) No way genuine life from another planet is so similar in form to ourselves, the odds are beyond measure.Then there's existing in our atmosphere - why are they adapted to it? Why is it not at least a little toxic to them? Again pointing to a terrestrial origin.
>>42862801I've seen one.I've also seen ghosts and experience a gambit of paranormal.But I've seen a UFO, under interesting circumstances too. I was compelled to walk outside and look in a certain direction at the sky - South.There was the UFO doing it's thing, crazy vector, completely square pixel or pale-yellow light, and in a blink - gone.It was one thing to see it, it was a other to both have this feeling "go outside right now." and then to also do it, and of course see something anomalous.And then a family friend has a story of then they were in the NAVY and in the pitch black night just bs-ing on the engineer phone, a and orange glowing craft rises out of the water. Pitch black night. The only pitch black you get from the ocean at night or caves.It silently rises out of the water, hovers for some moments and instantly is at/in the horizon/outer space.The captain saw it. Everyone on deck saw it including my family friend.The captain said he'll no we're not reporting it. They'll put us in straight jackets.So my UFO was way different than any I've ever read or seen, and the story from my friend is unique as well.And our stories are different.Not the cookie cutter you read about.Bottom line is I've witnessed one myself.
>>42862808> Biological aliens (did) exist.> Biology suffers in traveling space. Cryogenics, seeding, warp/wormhole drives are nonsense scifi, like getting to the Moon via steam locomotive or asbestos-powered jetpacks.> As technology develops, it shrinks and enters new "dimensions." Like how planes and spacecraft where able to lift humans to a "higher dimension" of faster travel.> Alien tech is essentially quantum travel, or every "Dark" dimension we are too stone age to know about, and it's unrecognizable to lower-intellectual creatures with no context, like airplane contrails being mistaken for clouds; buildings are just weird-shaped mountains with no interesting features."Aliens" could be solar flares, or just straight up the Earth and/or other planets and stars, but in a way we have no information or ability to perceive. Everything is deconstructed into chemistry and physics, and we are blind to how those structures are actually used (stars/neutron stars could just be industry, "built" as a physics structure to produce heavier elements used in species creation). Any attempt is akin to a chimp finding a smartphone, and thinking scrolling through Fortnite YouTube Shorts is gifting it deep knowledge and health.Alternatively, we are "alone," because it takes a coarse universe to produce an Earth, and once it's built, you just focus on it to refine neural processing power for aliens to travel around with. But I'm decaying even more now into wild speculation and pseudoscience.
>>42878270 When actual alien contact finally happens, you can wave goodbye to that materialist science worldview of yours. Plenty of experiencers say the aliens are spiritual as hell. And half the stuff you call "tech" is literally just magic, kek.
>>42878328Born too late to be an astrologistBorn too early to be an ultrasecundaliorBorn just in time to be a chemical engineer
In my life i only saw an UFO one time. I have seen ghosts more for some reason. I saw the white translucent ones that look like they are lost and they usually aren't paying attention to you when you see them and the shadow faggots that don't have a face and literally watch you. These ones might be demons though, i kinda hate their presence.
>i saw a flying thing in the current century!you people are like broken records with your"i saw one"storiesyou saw a nazi ship,get over it
>>42862801>i dont believe in aliens/UFOs>i dont believe inIt doesn't depend on your belief, it's a statistical certainty that there is extraterrestrial life. Also, stop using consensus reality as the measuring stick of what is real. The old "everybody knows X". The common consensus has gone full retard. You have prostitutes on a pedestal making bank while literal bioweapons are being tested on the population.
>>42879691what whores showing their asses has to do with aliens not being able to cruise the kuiper belt?kek
>>42879711>aliens not being able to cruise the kuiper belt?kekVoyager 1 and Voyager 2 have already crossed the Kuiper Belt. Why can't aliens cruise the Kuiper Belt?
>>42864581Please anon, more details. Was it powered by a jet engine like vidrel? Loud? Quiet? Did he live out in the country or something? Was this in the United States? Did you see it fly? How many times? What was his explanation of its origin if any? Father work for military? Please every possible detail you can remember. Fascinating if true.
>>42866647I have humanoid looking alien fatigue.
The Antichrist will probably use Aliens to create his Satanic religion God has shown more signs of his existence than Aliens
>>42881657Indoctrination narrative becomes the pillars of reality itself in the minds of the most afflicted.They will never simply perceive reality as it actually is because someone managed to put conceptual poison in between their mind and eyes.They have no concept of how it got there and no concept of how to remove it.
>>42881657>>42882169Ever think that maybe you're the one who's wrong? Dismissing all those UFO sightings and close encounters as fake takes some Olympic level mental gymnastics. After all, thousands of people have reported similar experiences.
>>42874981Greys are genetically engineered chinks from the future desolate earth, UFOs are their time machines. Thisnis why we dont see them flying in from the edges of the solar system, they just appear. They can appear in your bedroom if they want to. The probing, cattle mutilation etc is for genetic material, cows hold great value as providers of meat and dairy and are extinct in their time. Sadly this is also why only white people are ever abducted.If you're ever abducted, stay calm and try throwing out some Mandarin. See if they react. Maybe ask them to bring back a virus that targets only indians and africans so we can sort out global pollution and avoid their future hell.
>>42882315I have extensive direct personal experience. Far more than any other person who has gone into the public with their account. I'm not wrong. I don't have the luxury of uncertainty. I spent years with nearly full conscious awareness during a majority of the interactions with the beings from the stars. Some of the interactions were physical. Some were not. Seeing the vehicles during these years was so common that I didn't think I could ever get back to living unaware like everyone else does. They stumble along while onboard as if they are sleepwalking.. daydreaming in a trance.I am pretty nearly back to being just as unaware during the visits now.. and I don't see the vehicles like during that time. I worked with the beings for years doing anything they would let me involve myself in. The dreamlike nightly interactions were often followed by daytime deliberate displays of vehicles and other equipment I'm not too extremely exceptional.. Just somewhat so.. and very very very lucky. Perfect storm of Perfect storms brought me into conscious awareness of my own previous experiences with the beings.. and then from that point I was able to develop conscious awareness during the ongoing visits. The technology is the issue. They are doing things that you would not imagine. Like I said, Perfect storm of Perfect storms brought me the good luck of getting my memories into my full conscious awareness. I'm not wrong. Unlike most humans I am absolutely not guessing. Belief is an elective choice. Direct observation is not.
>>42882400There are many origins of different species of being with variations in technology and interests. They are coordinated together by those who have the most advanced technology. Everything that is out there, that considers us relevant enough to be involved in our existence here, is also present here reflected in some aspect of this complicated world. Chinese literature contains many stories about the flying ships and their occupants flying over the Yangtze river. The forbidden city has been collecting alien technology and remains from wreckage and other events for many centuries.. and others have done so for far longer
>>42878328https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWUbjI2aocs
