Have you ever asked yourself why very old magical people never just revealed the truth? You may assume because it's like christmas or because they are oh so wise.But mischievous magical creatures and people exist.We can assume at least one would try to just reveal the truth to people near the end of their age.I assume it's because of blackmail. But what could blackmail someone near the end of their life? Well, maybe they saw what happened to the children of the last great grand wizard or witch or religious leader who tried.Maybe they saw what witches and satyrs did do their children.
>>42866933Probably because it's a bespoke experience that can't be adequately translated through words and only through dedicated practice. Also, people are generally retarded. I'd rather eat jalapenos with my asshole than see "Chuck McDipshit with the comically lifted truck that never goes offroading" get magical powers.
>>42866933You give a retard a chaingun and you put entire neighbourhoods at risk, but you cant just abandon him, so what do we do anon?
they are revealing itjust not to you
>>42866933This painting is allegedly about "father time" wanting to reveal what's behind the curtain. You can see a guy to the left who's in utter despair. Like: you will struggle to find a face with similar despair in art.I believe this painting is deeply magical. I mean you see the girl having snake like skin... it's deeply magical. And yes: there must be intense blackmail to prevent old people from just spilling the abhorrent truth. and it's not just because it'd be difficult to believe.
>>42866933I'm a wizard myself and I tell you what, people don't ever listen to us and if they do they just call us names like crazy or racist or whatever. Even if I manage to find a way to distill that knowledge into the most palatable terms in accordance to their reality they just forget about it a week later because they are so infused with self inflected trauma and have no respect for anything other then their own ego. Those with no memory or history are ruled by Satan. And in hades no knowledge can be obtained. >>42866987This. To truly understand you have to "feel" it as vague and stupid as it sounds. And to feel it you actually have to study this stuff. Translating it to normies is difficult. Hylics have a hard time understanding the cycle of samsara and repeating your mistakes over and over again like an actual robot.
>>42867049This and his pic is highly relevant. There is a real shortage in spiritual wisdom, it's a large broad mountain with a sharp cliff face. Wise men are not hard to find, there are hundreds in every generation and they largely receive dismissal or belligerence from the wide masses.Just look at the negativity in some of the replies in this thread and OP. "Is it blackmail? Horrors being comprehension?" No, wisdom is simple shit you'd figure out if you'd just think about it silently like in pic related, but if you try to explain it to a normgroid they scoff and tell you to get lost.
>>42867049Makes sense. Have you tried using historical evidence? Arthur Trebitsch and Otto Weiniger wrote about some stuff.
Truth can't be communicated in simple language, all you can do is lay out seeds for people to pick up and plant themselves. Its the same reason Gandalf didnt summon the eagles at the beginning of Frodo's journey. It wasn't about being at Mordor it was about the journey.
>>42867129Why wouldn't someone try just for fun?Yeah sure. They'd sound like a crazy person to others. But once others begin to see even the slightest bits of truth (enough to seek more knowledge or dig in their memories), they would connect all the dots at once.
People simply don't value the truth as a value in of itself. Most are occupied with thoughts of material acquisition or social power. The truth to them is simply a tool to be used for those aims. A greater truth is totally unimportant for them because it does not help them towards their focused materialistic values. You can sit them down and guide them towards a greater understanding of the universe and their first thoughts will be "Okay but how does this help me get money and a leg up in my career?. Since spiritual wisdom often has you going in the opposite direction they consider it a waste of time.
>>42866933The truth is being revealed constantly. Everywhere. All the time. People just can't understand.Partly because without direct experience, kbowledge is useless. Mostly because most people are filler.
>>42867202That isn't true.In India you can find someone who holds his arm up because the Goddess Shiva told him that this way he can prevent war from breaking out. - And he kept up for so long, it died off!!!People aren't shit. It's the people who prank them who are shit. I believe he was deceived by evil spirits. Who think they are eradicating someone from the gene pool who's gullible. The reason we have ever more materialistic people, is because mischievous magical people think they are improving humanity by getting rid of gullible people. And they take it way too far.
>>42867221>Partly because without direct experience, kbowledge is useless.True. That is very much true.You will simply refuse to believe ere you had some first hand experiences and didn't discount them.But if you are smart and can endure, you will dig up more and more truths - and this does not answer why there aren't old people just spilling out the truth (very little to lose at old age).Imagine old paintings were warnings to people about what may happen if they did.
>>42867129They reward men above a certain with sex and children. Or even letting them do depraved stuff.Actually it isn't a reward, it's what they wanted all along. Once the men give in the real horror begins. See: >>42867248The men just begin seeing things in art in-between lines. But it's not just that, it's real magic too.It's incredibly dumb.
The real magic is in discovering things yourself.If you are a faggot you would frame it as the difference between watching all the Harry Potter movies vs. reading a spoiler post that simply says "Snape kills Dumbledore" xD
>>42867423Ok. But people spoil books for fun. Like they post spoilers on Reddit.Why wouldn't someone do it?And: do you assume wizards and witches can't hold grudges? I mean we know witches aren't pleasant. Why wouldn't they spoil it to others out of spite? That's not the reason.
>>42867084History has many points of views and interpretations. A story I try to share will either be ignored because its not the "right" history or they will interpret it the wrong way. Fairy tales are unironically a better way to convince people of things.
>>42866933Imagine witches and wizards can just make your children sneeze via magic.And then if you misbehave a child of your just suddenly has an inexplicable allergy.Imagine it's something as mundane and petty as that.I mean: if you assume magic was involved when it comes to circumcision (it used to be an ancient ritual) - they now do that in well lit hospitals. Like: they ceased to pretend it's magical. In a time with smartphones they increasingly worry about being caught.
>>42867484>In a time with smartphones they increasingly worry about being caughtActually they want you to notice so you get used to not doing shit about it AND so they can shame you for noticing to begin with.
>>42867441I believe anyone with actual true occult knowledge doesn't spoil out of respect for fellow seekers. A real wizard, even if they are the ornery old man type has had to wade through so much symbolic bullshit, so many blind traps built into nearly every tome and grimoire that the trollish/spiteful position is letting you make your own mistakes. A charlatan (99% of all occultists) will tell you whatever you want to hear or what they think sounds good.
>>42867512>I believe anyone with actual true occult knowledge doesn't spoil out of respect for fellow seekersThat's a part of it. A large portion is the spiritual side of things. That which is taught is not truly learned. It is only repeated.
>>42867512If you read actual books from Occultists, say Heinrich Cornelius Agrippa's "Declamation on the Nobility and Preeminence of the Female Sex" - you kinda get the impression they were people who just saw too much stuff.But they just couldn't spell the truth out outright for whatever reason.I don't think the reasons they still kept secrets was due to respect for how much fun that journey was.
>>42867532So what, every time you are reborn you have to learn the same thing? Sounds pretty fuckin gay
>>42867557I got a theory. A lot of it is "dude trust me" but I think it makes sense.Buddhists have a way to tell who is who through reincarnation cycles. They have multiple objects and if the person picks up the object that is related to the persons previous life and shows a genuine curiosity and attachment to it then they found the reincarnated person. Now I also believe this extends to personality traits, personal tastes and so forth. So the things you do in this life can enhance or sully the next one, hence why doing sins will damn you. I believe this is also the case for certain knowledges and beliefs.This is your hidden deep true self. And as we go through our lives we quickly forget our true deep selves. The new role we are given masks and muffles our spirit. This new role often develops and shapes our true self over time, much like how sometimes actors get too deep into a certain role and sometimes forget themselves. It's also why actors are empty people, often chasing trends as they destroyed their soul by playing so many roles. It's a reason why the Greeks looked down upon actors.
>>42867590Being reborn is just having children.You kinda live on via having children.Very mischievous women deceived men by promising them rebirth or eternal life - and it was simply having children. To be fair: more children then they otherwise could have.... but those were the children of witches and people like Epstein. Or both.
>>42867619>muh epstaininto the trash it goes, bread and circus shit when that kind of shit happens all the time elsewhere but people ignore it because it would be racist to point it out.
>>42866933There is nothing more revolting to a woman than the truth, and to most men as well. As the redpill went mainstream the women withdrew their pussy, it's why you see "conservative" men being denied pussy and excluded everywhere. Women DO NOT want to hear the truth so when you chuds go around running your mouth about various redpills, not to mention blackpills, women will absolutely hate you with a passion if you spew blackpills in the real world. Even here on 4chan you can see the normies seethe tremendously when you drop blackpills, they will screech about demoralization like a banshee repeatedly.
>>42867632 Look at the size of that shoe.There's a reason the chinese men snapped.
>>42867619which doesn't mean magic isn't real. But people mostly use magic to play very cruel pranks.And promising people who went through a lot rebirth or eternal life... <- they use magic to make them think it must be true.But eternal life is actually against the rules of magic. It's just having children. And the women will get angry as fuck if you tell them they should stop playing dumb and it was what they wanted all along (that it wasn't a reward).
>>42866933They did, it's in the King James Bible. Also, reality is the truth.
>>42867658There is a lot of truths in there - but the truth is a puzzle and there's deceit in there too.You find more truth about how Christianity operates in paintings. Like - look at this painting of Ganymede. Rembrandt made it 100 years after a pope was accused of raping a boy others nicknamed ganymede."Magic" including religion keeps it's secret via blackmail. And one of the biggest secrets is that it's run by women. That's why there's so much male genital mutilation. It's a retarded war of the sexes.
>>42867651You're gay or attracted to children if the top size is your preference
>>42867714Or you thoroughly snapped.They acted as if these feet are more erotic than healthy feet.Just like women go on Twitter telling everyone they find mutilated penises more erotic.A lot of lies are told in spite and resent once people realize what is really going on. They copy their abusers.
>>42867685A lot of it is drenched in symbolism that only those "in the know" will understand. Plus if that information somehow gets leaked the symbolism is masked enough so people can just call you crazy for pointing it out, all while those who do know will proceed to mock you and agitate you hoping you will break in some way to really discredit you often though more symbolism or metaphoric word play. And the fact that actual schizophrenic's think like this also lends credit to how affective this strategy works.Instead of people wanting to understand why people think the way they do they just call you insane for threatening their ego and close themselves off.
>>42867724Oh I also forgot to mention. If you are "in the know" you can use your word games to get into said private groups. That's why I think a lot of those bullshit modern art slop pictures go for high prices. Part money laundering but also they are "tickets" to enter the game if you are willing to drop that much money on garbage art.
>>42867723"healthy">I'm the one who snappedlmao
>>42867724True.Though today people can easily research history thanks to Ai. Say: they can research that circumcision was the price of entry for fertility cults.Or - that in some (christian) cults women gave men eternal bliss in exchange for castrating themselves.Imagine that love potions are real. There's women who'd try to use a love potion after killing your dog - they'd consider that incredibly funny.And women who'd use that love potion to trick men into castrating themselves.>>42867743There's reasons a person can snap. If love potions or rather love spells are real (they are) and women used them after killing your house pets (like Ozzy Osbourne shooting 17 cats and some time after everyone pretendend that never happened?)... oh man. You'd be so fucking pissed at people using love magic this way, no?
>>42867731>And the fact that actual schizophrenic's think like this also lends credit to how affective this strategy works.Look into the influencing machine 1919.If magic is real, people would eventually begin to blame technology for it.What they described were succubi.
>>42867775dawg I'm not reading an entire thread for "muh context" when my point is the top are literally smaller than my child's feet and incapable of distributing the necessary weight to bring life into the worldI'm not a schizo antinatalist gnostic, hence I like women that are built like women, not children
>>42867815True. They couldn't even safely hold their own children afterwards.>hence I like women that are built like women, not childrenYeah, i can relate. Well, if you are a target they want to blackmail you. Then you may end up breeding women who prefer boys over men.And they will say: oh, isn't that great, because then these children will be more like you rather than those women?
>>42867423this is a criminally underrated comment. we need these big "wow" moments, to solidify something in our minds. to create those synaptic connections.a friend of mine, never bothered to look for himself and kept asking me to explain things for him. this resulted in him knowing the correct things to say, but had absolutely no idea of its true meaning. whenever he would talk to others, he could only spout out those buzzwords. when he was trying to learn things for himself, he couldnt make any headway, because he didnt understand the basics.its like cheating for every lesson and test in school. you never actually learn anything. and when it comes time to use what you have learned....well, what have you actually learned?i would talk about books with him. he would make me get to the end, or the plot twist in the story. but without going through the motions, and contemplating things, he was cheating himself out of some of the most significant experiences, and discoveries.unrelated example. he would be like, man theres no good sci fi to watch. so im like, have you heard of star wars? instead of watching the movies, in an order that makes sense, he just googles the plot. watches only the part where darth vader reveals hes lukes father, and is like, "uh so what, who cares?". without the story, theres no significance in the reveal. but anyone who has watched it, knows its a big fucking deal.by discovering things ourselves, we create the connections in our brains, and more importantly, we gain experience. you cannot gain this experience by watching some rando, summarize it on youtube. would you rather watch star wars for yourself, or have some edgelord on youtube "summarize" it in the way that he thinks, star wars should be?
>>42867828Wasn't expecting things to go this way but I'll bite.What could the significance of my being baited by these posts with a mistaken assumption of what you were saying considering I put together my son's mom is of the tribe after we already had him, she was very explicit in her desire to bring his life about, and shortly after his birth she transed out and abandoned him?Maybe it was for the better considering all the things she believed socially, politically and most crucially spiritually, cuz despite occasional loneliness and sorrow for my boy we're doin quite well just the two of us
>>42867512seconded. here, here!
>>42867844There's a fictional tribe in a popular video game which kills and shuns off all men, except for one winner. And they like to transition boys.
>>42867590seconded. know thyself.
>>42867851>>42867844And that is a little bit like islamic mega harems.There's women who like the thought of: sex is incredibly difficult to come by. Only one man breeds multiple women when he's age 40. If he refuses they will kill him and just breed the second man. (Means the men they will breed are kinda traitors to their sex. Kinda breeding traitors).And they will kill women or drive them mentally insane or shun and ostracize them if they'd just give a free blowjob ere age 40.
>>42867844It's a massive war of the sexes involving some magic.PS: Christianity too.Like: look up Saint Wilgefortis. This Sain who happens to look like a man in drag was as popular as virgin marry for a while.It's a really retarded war of the sexes.
>>42867724truesay
>>42867854And these women act as if these mega harems are abusive of women, because they love to play victim.But: It's women outnumbering a highly influential man 100 : 1 or something.Each individual woman will only have sex like once per year (it's mostly prude women who are scheming and sadistic). - only once per year, because the man will be busy going from woman to woman.And they vastly outnumber that guy, and it's likely a king or something.For certain women that's a perfect arrangement. And they will actively harm women who are kinky or cuddly.And yes... they like to transition boys. Because they think that's them winning the war of the sexes. But they also make gay sex illegal if they can. Because then they can use their boys to blackmail other men.
>>42867851That explains why they worship Lilith.>>42867854It's kind of wild just how empty and demonic women are.
>>42867909By the way: jewish folklore is adam and lilith fighting over who lies beneath the other like a woman. (yes, this means Lilith asked adam to take it up the ass, like pegging).And then they killed the infants of their neighbors, because Adam refused to take it up the ass.Eventually this turned into: we will not harm your infants, if your either circumcise them or buy very expensive jewelry.(ask an ai for confirmation: it's jewish folklore, not anti-semitic lore).
>>42867933Haven't chimed back in but surprisingly enough my boy's mom left his skin alone, maybe she was just being unwittingly used by certain forces hence why some things line up so well while others don't? Either way spooky to think that my pride and joy may have been ushered in by me being psyoped/magicked essentially or malevolent forces at play. Makes me wonder if it has anything to do with my parents using birth control when I was conceived aka I wasn't supposed to have made it through.
>>42868019>maybe she was just being unwittingly used by certain forcesVery possible. Unfortunately you can never know for certain. They use layers of obfuscation.But there appears to be free will (though they do toy with your mind, heavily)
>>42867394>Or even letting them do depraved stuff.NTA.It's all about balance, if you lack something in your life, you have to do it to attain balance (it's to prevent regret later on). If you didn't had sex in your life, Asmodeus will come to help you at the gate of the 7th Seal.
>>42866933Even if they told you would you understand?
>>42867441Try convincing a Christian, that Jesus never walked the Earth or the prophet for a Muslim or even Moses is a fictional character.
>>42868177Try convincing them that Pagans and Indian were less degenerate than Christians.India ere being invaded by Christians and ruled by muslims for 600 years was the first country in the world to have widespread flushing toilets and it had dentistry 1000 years ere denmark.India - these perverted heathens - had sex temples. And you can't spot any children on these sex temples. Only adults having sex, cuddling, looking as if they are in love with each other. And some elephants.... there's a reason these people play dumb. It's not because they cannot be convinced, they actively play dumb.
>>42868169Not ere having experienced magic myself. But if they had - in hindsight i would had connected all the dots at once.Some SORTA tried like Plato and Aristotles. But they still spoke in puzzles. Like you can tell they were entrapped when they wrote their stuff.With Arthur Trebitsch and Otto Weiniger you can tell they wrote stuff ere being trapped (and thus they spoke more plainly about it) - though they assumed it's technology.But: you don't find people who were already trapped and just spilled out the truth at the end of their life.
>>42868240>Try convincing them that Pagans and Indian were less degenerate than Christians.This isn't even being racist but you indians eat literaly cow shit thinking it cures cancer. Also the pictures you posted on the christian side proves you know jack shit about what you are talking about, one of those pictures isn't even of christian origin story wise.Pagan is a nebulas term because it referred to any other group like the norse or even egyptions. I am not even christian myself, you are just an idiot. This is why I don't respect your culture because you deliberately play stupid.
>>42868365And they still had widespread flushing toilets and dentistry ere denmark.And their sex temples didn't depict children, at least i couldn't find anything.With the christians... try finding paintings of Christians which depict literal whores more sensual than they depict children. It's a genuine challenge.I know... magical people think it's incredibly smart to play dumb. This will cease to be.
>>42868365Indias art including the sex temples becomes more amazing if you put in perspective to other art at that time. Say japan in 900.
>>42868443You can tell by the people on these sex temples being hyperflexible and openly sexual that they were fairly autistic.You can also tell by the incredible craftsmanship.There is one place where shooting the messenger is always the right choice: the whore house.Because in the whore house people cheat on their spouses - you don't want any messengers.Autistic people are transparent and upfront.This retarded war of the sexes (including Christianity) is mostly a war of whores against autism. And also a war of whores against humanity.Whores like to shame you for sex, because if your wife refuses to give you a blowjob or anal you are more likely to visit whores.They hate open sexuality. Bad for their business.And whores hate the truth. It has no place in a whore house, which is the place of roleplaying, lies, cheating. ... now assume: whores once told a king: we will all have children with you at the end of our life, if you grant us special privileges, magic, exemptions from law - well, who'd resist having like hundreds of additional children and the biggest genetic lineage in the world? Someone like this: >>42867234
>>42866933What are you going to do with this information? Cast faggot fireball or david star blast? You're going to hunt for unicorns in the fucking woods for 7 years just to find nothing? Are you going to make it snow once in a while? Cast a curse on some jackass who took your parking spot?Any wizard would feel like a douchebag for wasting their lives on magic.
>>42868480Make people see patterns.It all began in Mesopotamia.
>>42866933because go fuck yourself, why the fuck should I share what I know with a worthless ungrateful faggot like yousimple as
>>42868480>>42868499You notice the same pattern even inside Christianity itself.I know, it's slightly silly. But... you notice it even in some people preferring dynamic stuff which resembles Marvel movies - and other people preferring stuff which is lame and stiff.Some people would like to use "magic" for stuff which is cool and fun.And others enjoy using "magic" in the most resentful and petties ways you can imagine.Like using a love potion after killing someone's dog. <- you have to be really sick to use "love magic" this way.
>>42867049also thiswe're just sick and tired of you fucking niggers acting like niggers and not listening and just throwing stones when we try to fucking help you or give you any informationyou FUCKING stupid niggers just go back to your fucking socializing and video games and drugs and discord gossip and your fucking twitter gossip and your tik tok meme dance videos and every other form of FUCKING SLOP you FUCKING NIGGERS THRIVE ONFUCK YOU zoomers. FUCK ALL OF YOU.PERISH.
>>42868517They think people finding out about their "magic" is more fun if it's as lame as humanely possible. They enjoy being lame. They think it makes for the best disguise.And they love to play stupid.They take immense enjoyment out of playing stupid and lame.And they replace people who create and want to have fun.
Again. You notice this even inside Christianity. When it was fresh (still had a heavy pagan influence) they built Cathedrals and did lots of amazing art.And today they try to be lame. Like: Graffiti in churches, modern abstract buildings which are small... they want to be inoffensive, lame. It's their disguise. But it's also their personality.It's like they are flat out different people.
>>42868440>>42868443>literally can't stop talking and thinking about sexYou are never going to beat the stereotypes.
>>42868517Ok teach me a magic that I can use then.
>>42866933>doesn't read scrolls>doesn't study>doesn't meditate>doesn't practice>Expects me to tell him how to slam dunk realityIf it was easy everyone would do it.
>>42866933If they reveal all to you then the mysteries remain unknown to you. Most magic is the kind that you have to learn yourself or you'll never truly understand it. The older generations are supposed to function as guides not as absolutes because the only magic and symbols that stay standing are those that repeat.
>>42867049Old one, how do I get whatever foul creature stole my jeans and my folder to give me my shit back, or at least stop stealing from me.I am being unironic here. Something has bern stealing from me and I cannot find my items.I'd also accept other esoteric wisdom if you cannot help me with my issue.
I see so many people "revealing" things, but they are invisible for the ones that do not want to see, there's many such people throughout history, you just gotta attune yourself to the learning frequency, be ready
>>42866933>Whybecause of abuse. if everyone knew how to do what Qi Mater Chang can, there would be rampant abuse.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAAB0dbc3Eseven he admits that the Old Ones who watch him from the spirit realm were extremely angry with him when he performed his powers for entertainment, vanity, and hubris. in doing so, it made him break his oath of never using his powers for harm. the evidence of it was his pushing a chopstick through a table for all the wrong reasons, taking a prideful swipe at it to show off to the onlookers, only to stab someone in the third eye.he was absolutely clear about it- the stabbing of her third eye was his punishment for abusing what was trusted to him. imagine what would happen if every dimwit had the same knowledge.
>>42869334>Qi Mater ChangQi Master Chang. how embarassing. picrel.
>Why don’t grown ups give toddlers machine guns?
more like>why don't grown ups give toddlers their drugsbecause fuck you, I'll give you a taste when I feel generous, otherwise, get your own stash you worthless niggers
>>42867557that's the entire thing ya jabroni. You don't learn the same thing everytime you're reborn unless you waste every moment of every life. My teacher used to say "it's caught not taught"and because you have to learn directly, when and if you are lucky enough to actually learn, then you INTERNALIZE it and own it. then next time you're born it's like an instinct and automatic and you learn the next level... all while having to listen to the kindergardners complain about why they dont "get it". hahhah. You sound pretty fucking gay my guy.
>>42866933>Why aren't old magical people revealing the truth?hylics don't deserve the knowledge
>>42866933I learned from old, wise people. They don't tell people who they think won't believe them and/or aren't worth telling.
>>42866933The answer is simpler for those who don't obfuscate truth on purpose to claim more power. Imagine if to teach someone your full magic you would require the equivalent of a full college course series of lectures, and when you attempt to do so you see nearly everyone get stuck at or go off the rails or otherwise make an ass out of themselves before you even get to around the third lecture out of 20. At some point, they just adopt the "feel you out" game instead when talking to people. You shoot the shit and give a tit for tat one secret or speculation for another, like a competition until it becomes clear the level they are at. Then you give whatever step they are currently on some aid and leave it at that. It's far easier and keeps their sanity compared to trying to lay out everything to people, and also how even accomplished wizards end up getting lessons from even better wizards.Basically, wizard magic exchange is and forever will be a pp comparison where you compare magic pp's and whoever has the bigger one imparts a small lesson. This is the game and culture, you have to learn to play it. Not playing it just means your magical pp is too small to help.
They do, all the time. They either get ignored or institutionalised.
Last person who learnt magic who shouldnt is showering god with curses. Among other things you probably have or are developing diabetes. You're being assfucked by life in many ways and so on...
>>42870314>They do, all the time. They either get ignored or institutionalised.Sounds more like young people being initiated, not great wizards at the end of their life.
>>42867556>But they just couldn't spell the truth out outright for whatever reasonBack in the day they could be burned at the stake if they framed things in a way that didn't please the church.
>>42870526True - and Heinrich Cornelius Aggrippa told many truths while sorta pretending to say the opposite.Basically: he sarcastically praised these people (especially women).But i was thinking of someone deeply involved, at the end of their life. Someone behind the scenes (say, a pope even!!!) could had tried to tell people.Like: if a pope just blurted out in a public mass event that it's all a pedophilia rape cult with forced cuckolding run to a large extend by women... You wouldn't forget that. It'd make it into history books. it'd be on Wikipedia. Today, it'd be on newspapers. Live streamed perhaps even.And i assume they must've found ways to discourage that.
>>42869995You are a retarded faggot that thinks reincarnation means here on earth lmfaoTry not to suck any cocks on your way out of the thread (impossible)
>>42869995>My teacher used to say "it's caught not taught"Yes, kinda true. You need to experience as otherwise you will refuse to believe it. At best you'd entertain it as a funny idea.But: If someone spilled out the entire truth, once you experience it you'd connect all the dots at once.And the truth can be voiced in ways in which regular people would mostly agree.
>>42866933 It has always been about becoming the right vessel for knowledge. Ordinary people can do nothing with this kind of knowledge except corrupt it and reduce it to their own profane understanding of things. That is why such knowledge has always been carefully guarded, and why initiation is required. By the way, initiation can happen not only by joining different groups but also through supernatural means. You can be initiated by entities in a vision, in a dream, through spontaneous insight, and so on. All of these are legitimate forms of initiation, both historically and esoterically. Yet without discernment you will fall into delusion.
>>42870936If that were only true. That it was just a very thorough vetting. But it isn't.Otherwise the world wouldn't be in the state it is. They use magic to build hospitals were every second infant is mutilated.And they did this since ancient times. Only today do they pretend it is healthcare rather than a religious rite - because they worry the non-magical people will catch on.Magic is run by losers. There is no point in granting magic to winners. If an empire spans half the globe - it'd be unfair as fuck to give them magic on top of that. Thus wizards and witches kept giving magic to resentful losers. That sounds fair on the surface, right? But here's the issue:Petty resentful losers think it's fun to use magic to enforce widespread mutilation. Why would they do that if they themselves are mutilated? Because they think of the popular girl or popular boy in class, and the idea of them being mutilated fills them with joy. Footbinding in china (they crippled girls) and clitoris mutilation in Africa involved magic. Just as does circumcision. Recently we stopped mutilating girls and increasingly mutilate boys, because women are increasingly running magic.And: because magic is granted to losers, they are desperate to portray themselves as losers even as they dominate you.
>>42870574>Like: if a pope just blurted out in a public mass event that it's all a pedophilia rape cult with forced cuckolding run to a large extend by women... You wouldn't forget that.1) they don't want to bring shame to themselves and other involved if they suddenly have a change of heart2) these people are controlled and under surveillance, so if they'd try to something publicly it would be shut down before it happened or they scrub it off the internet3) they're blackmailed and it would put their loved ones at risk.
>>42866933Good wizards are involved in plots against bad ones, revealing too much is a liability
>>42868530But I want both esoteric innate wisdom formed in the germ of a profound gestalt, AND whimsical stupid shit that is so pointless it acts as an informational corrosive.
>>42870971>3) they're blackmailed and it would put their loved ones at risk.Yes - point 3 is exactly my point.Because all the other things - you have no reason to care about. If you are near the end of your life, you have very little left to lose. Why care about the reputation of people who hurt you and others?But if they have (illegitimate?) children and they saw what happens to children of people who speak out? Oh that would explain it.And that would explain why witches had a reputation for hurting children. But: child abuse is rampant in catholic schools too. imagine those were the children of truth tellers.It'd explain so very much.
>>42868535Eye of the beholder, Anon.
>>42870992Speaking of large eyes: these Mesopotamien sculptures have massive eyes.They look stiff and a bit lame or boring too, compared to other sculptures.But they sure have very large eyes.And their hands remind me of Mr Burns. If he had massive eyes.
>>42870942>worry the non-magical people will catch onIt is not about the profane catching on. There is rarely any real conflict between the profane and the magical. We inhabit different worlds that only occasionally intersect. What is actually protected is the proper order of things, the hierarchy of understanding itself.>it'd be unfairAs I said, initiation can also occur through supernatural means. If someone has the potential and is the right vessel, they will be initiated. In that sense it is entirely fair.
>>42871089Then there is no risk in the profane catching on and someone just revealing all secrets and acquiring the means to reach ever more people?Well, if there was these people would agree to that hypothetical persons demands: to make circumcision illegal ere that happens.
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>>42871102And one shouldn't be assumed it'd be limited to this board or 4chan.Imagine a guy is so pissed about some bitches refusing to write on social media that mutilation of infants should be made illegal, he will change 4000 year old rules.
>>42871278The bad grammar makes any threat sound less serious. Well, too bad. If you know how pissed these succubi get at that one demand: agree publicly that circumcision should be made illegal - and how much bullshit have to endure because they tempt me with EVERYTHING you could possibly imagine and just keep asking for that one thing again and again: just agree publicly that mutilation should be illegal...Oh my. That's the way it is.
>>42871102 There is a risk to the knowledge itself. If you openly reveal everything, it will be corrupted and reduced to something the general public can easily swallow while missing its true meaning. As a result, you will end up with something entirely different from what you intended. Not everyone has the potential for these things.
>>42871463I can see risks. I'm smart enough to stay in the in-between yet figure stuff out.But: they refuse to write that circumcision should be made illegal. I'd risk nuclear war if people refuse to say that circumcision should be made illegal.You can't live with people like that.
>>42871547And if they refuse to say this one simple thing: it's wrong to mutilate infants and children. Footbinding was wrong just as circumcision is wrongAs long as they refuse to say that, i will not take any risks serious. Not even the slightest bit.No: they are good at threatening you. But i refuse to believe people would take genuine risks to keep mutilate their own offspring.I bet there are some very strange and arbitrary rules in place, and the worst people on earth keep exploiting them toying with your natural human desires to prevent harm, do the lesser of two evils etc.
>>42870850I saw him sucking another one earlier you were right
>>42866933cause the truth is its not real :o
>>42866933Because the truth is boring.>death is fake>the difference between individuality and collectivity is superficial at best>egos are not souls and cease to exist on death, but since the world is ego-dominated, it wouldn't even mean anything to reveal this truth because too many NPCs that can't even be forced at gunpoint to shed their ego.So whats the point of revealing anything to the uninitiated again? Sounds like it just creates headaches and possibly ends your particular run of this game when they crucify you for telling too much confusing truth. Nah. Fuck em.
>>42872368If you are smart, you can make the most complicated and complex truths approachable.
>>42869380Most wars have been fought with child soldiers.
>>42867021I add +1 to the Foucault number and say that that the post-modern prediction he made in his vol 1 on sexone victorian man confessed all his sexual sins like the pervert he was in like as many volumes as there of are the golden bough.People no longer confess sins to a priest, they do on tiktok and society absolves them and rewards them with attention.Twitter whores do it too
>>42872813In other words, there is no shame anymoreSo who is gonna blackmail a generation with no shame?
>>42872855me because fuck you niggers you're fucking shit worthless pricks, all of you, every single one of you, FUCK youDIE you fucking child. All you children. DIE. You were a fucking MISTAKE.
>>42872865Im white and even posted my balls on this site minutes ago>>42872760
>>42867004survival of the fittest
>>42867084How can historical evidence help when someone just might dismiss you by saying your evidence is fake or misleading. I dont know who those two names are though but I imagine the principle I mentioned stays; victors write history.
>>42873566Then the evidence must be so obvious, it can't be dismissed. That's entirely possible.
>>42873566Take the Hexenhammer, written 1486. It talks about "Seminal ducts". That's due to translation - the original in latin talks about seminal ducts as well.And it correctly describes the functions of seminal ducts.Here's the thing: We didn't perform the first vasectomy on an animal (dogs) ere 1823. Humans came later even.The Hexenhammer - the book of the inquisition - has intricate anatomical knowledge.Mind you: fairly recently we performed lobotomies and pretended it was healthcare. We circumcise and pretend it's healthcare. We do gender affirming healthcare and pretend it's healthcare... meanwhile the Hexenhammer makes it obvious people had more anatomical knowledge than you think. <- Religion and Esotericism is weirdos who find excuses and play dumb to mutilate people.Some high IQ people ended up in monasteries, and we pretend they spend all day praying. In reality they researched science, medicine and other things. But: they then kept telling obvious lies to everyone else. It's like we are living in an amish village with ancient """magic""". <- and it's run by petty losers who blackmail.
>>42874714how can someone blackmail dolly or another celebrity on the deathbed? they give no fucks about reputation tarnishing unless you force feed drugs to them; look at Ye.
>>42867004>so what do we do anon?Imagine the guy with a chaingun has only one demand:Unpleasant Feminists must go online and write that circumcision must be made illegal, no religious exceptions. But it must be so many it will make a dent.And then he'd put down the chaingun.Imagine it could be this easy.
>>42874714here's the Hexenhammer talking about "magical charms" sewn in-between flesh and skin.We didn't have Anti-septics until 1860. Officially.What the Hexenhammer describes sounds like a surgery or something which even if it was just ritualistic could lead to a deadly infection.Old books are filled with a surprising amount of medical knowledge. You can just ask to confirm that the Hexenhammer mentions Seminal ducts, that it correctly describes it's function, that it asserts "witches" could manipulate seminal ducts to make your seed fruitlessly spilled....... for someone who just wanted to rile up some peasants without any medical knowledge and struggling with literacy, that is intricate knowledge.You are basically a slave in an amish village.
>>42873314>survival of the fittestThe entire point of magic is to prevent that. Assume that the most religious countries are the most "magical".India was the first country in the world to have widespread flushing toilets. After being ruled by prude muslims for 600 years, 600 million people shat in the street. They continued shitting in the street even after their government began to provide toilets.Magic is handed out to petty resentful losers. There is no point in handing out magic to winners. If say someone's empire spans the entire globe (rome) <- people will resent if someone gives them "magic". They will argue it's unfair.Imagine the reason we have people who keep arguing about who is the biggest victim and they build a victim hierarchy, is because we live in an amish village. And someone said it'd be unfair to give talented people magic. And they kept giving magic to petty resentful losers. And they used it for blackmail, enforcing systemic mutilation and ruining their own country.
>>42866933we tried, y'all never listen
>>42866933The truth can only be self discovered through introspective analysis of yourself against the universe. You could be told a million ways and never believe it because the ego defenses go up. This is why Jesus spoke in parable and riddles and about it. Some minds simply cannot comprehend and some would rather become stone.
>>42874896And it's far older than any book would ever tell you.
>>42872898Ok this is based
>>42874896The truth is difficult to discover because they rely on layers of obfuscation.See: imagine you have a magic remote control which can dial up a love potion.And then you give some guy a stick and tell him that stick is magic, when he points it at someone (including himself) he will feel the magic of the love potion. (maybe you tell him it only works 90% of the time for some reason).He does: and it works.He's thoroughly convinced his stick is magical. What you don't tell him: there's someone with a magical remote control who's hitting the love spell button each time he points the stick at a person. (sometimes that person is lazy, thus it only works 90% of the time).That person - if he begins revealing the truth - will tell everyone the stick is magical. But it's an ordinary stick. The real magic is the magical remote control.... and now imagine they did this throughout time. They gave people stones and sticks (wands) or tablets or books and told them it's magical. And really they had the true magical remote control and they used it to gaslight others to keep magic a secret.PS: you are a slave in an amish village.
>>42875009And now imagine that's why there's so many churches and monasteries filled with people who don't do real work.Imagine their job is hitting a magical remote control each time a guy points a wand at a person. And this way he's under the delusion his stick is the real magic.PS: they use this magical remote control to mutilate infants. They use it in combination with blackmail to coerce people into mutilating themselves and their offspring.
>>42870942This shit is done by normalfags for their usual narcissistic reasons, not by autists or incel types
>>42874714>Esotericism is weirdosNo, its normalfags using magic, demonology and shit to do normalfag goals
>>42875018True. Magic and autism are kinda opposed. Because autists prefer truth and transparency. And magic is all about deceit.PS: The whore house is the only place were shooting the messenger is always the right choice. Because it's a place were people cheat on their spouses. You don't want any truth tellers in the whore house.Neither do you want autistic efficiency. Like what will a prostitute use it for? Suck dick 20% faster?The whore house is a place of secrets and dreams. And if magic is real: it'd be place of secrets, deceit and dreams.They are sorta one and the same. Suprisingly.Oh - lots of blackmail in the whore house too.And if you wanted to reward Saints with having children, well you need to find women who'd have children in exchange for money or something else. Not women who dream of finding a loving husband who raises their children.Now imagine this over generations (...) and it explains the state of things.
>>42872414Again, there is no point though, because the truth is not exciting harry potter or DnD esque lazer and light show combat magic. People get angry at you for telling the boring mundanity and then kill you.
>>42875443Doesn't this depend on the truth itself?But also: we have fictional story after story were people suffer for killing the messenger. And it makes sense in real life too: say, a guy tells you that the tanks you own aren't properly maintained ere you invade another country? You would be better off listening to that guy.Most people are better off listening to intelligent people who have good intentions. There is only one place i can think of where this doesn't hold true: The whore house.Because in the whore house people actively talked out of cheating on their spouse daily. In the whore house people are encouraged to break social norms, taboos, cheat. Sometimes gamble, sometimes pedophilia (workers are underage or worse).It's the only place i can think of were shooting the messenger is the right choice 99% of the time.Otherwise you are almost always better off listening to people who point out problems. It very much feels as if we are run by the whore house.
