My children are a blessing upon this realm, Anon.

Their lives are why I'm fighting so hard to bring abundance and human flourishing to this planet--the way it was meant to be.

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>>42874162
A lot of young and now middle aged men will or have already come to terms with exactly this. It’s not that we are the first individuals to have realized it, but the trend has noticeably accelerated in the last couple of decades. You aren’t alone in your choice and you are more likely to run into others who have made it than someone from decades ago might be. This is a species level instinct and humans are no different from other animals that refuse to breed during famines and droughts. It’s not a noble choice. It’s a choice that deprives the future of children from capable and thoughtful parents. But neither is it an ignoble choice for exactly the reasons you discuss. We are facing the selective pressures of our times and thoughtfulness about progeny’s plight is being selected against. I think it should be noted that that is also a trend; just look at the percentage of people who support late term abortions or the murdering of children during postpartum depressive episodes. This isn’t ascension, but a different aspect of biology.

>>42874162
nice demoralisation thread you faggot kike go get the tampon out your ass

>>42874162
Actually you have an obligation to breed so your empathic and intelligent kids can make the world better.

>>42874162
Isnt that what the buddha supposedly first saw after he became enlightened?

based and wokepilled

normies droids shitting out babies are going to hell and have excess negative karma for pulling a non-consenting soul from the aether to fuel their animal ego like neanderthals

>there is no argument against this
>watch as chuds defend their stance

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>>42874229
What is demoralizing about this? Even if you are a christian having children isn't something required. The only real way this could demoralize anyone is if they already have kids, and if you have kids and are wasting time on, not just 4chan, but /x/ (kek) you need to face the reality that you might just be a retard.

Thoughts like this are comforting for alot of people, me included, and knowing that others feel this way is nice.

>>42874236
>can make the world better
We are being put into a box and there is essentially nothing that is being done or even can be done about it. Im sure those kids would feel the same, but even more so. There is nothing wrong with not wanting to feed this machine anymore.

>>42874236
But they wont make the world better. They will end up being assimilated into the current apathetic melting pot that I see every day I go outside. And I will not stand to watch as kids that came from me, that I raised, fall victim to a dystopian nightmare and horrors beyond my comprehension.

>>42874229
>yes, yes, breed like rabbits or else it’s demoralization, white power and stuff
Not gonna engage a soulless husk hijacked by an archon.

>>42874273
are you me? or is it the other way around?

>>42874281
>3 second difference replying to the same two anons
Life’s strange like that

>>42874273
>They will end up being assimilated into the current apathetic melting pot that I see every day I go outside
Yet you somehow resisted assimilation. Curious.

>>42874254
Yes yes please follow your volunteerly extinction as we chuds and our decedents inherit the earth
Oh and your shit genes gout out with you so a plus for humanity too
>>42874272
>literally lives in one of the best ages in world, freaking clean water, toilet and pipes, air conditioning, worker rights, can have access to entertainments that 100 years ago people would have killed for them, access to medicine that keep him young and healthy (viagra as an example, limp dick was an end of a man 100 years and there was so many “magic” copes in Eastern Asia just for this), and literally anti cancer vaccine on its way, and two longevity/immortality medicine in fda production
An ai system that can and WILL do everything as time goes on
>man made horror beyond my comprehension because I saw a black man with a white woman and a chink woman with a white man
I fucking don’t understand you doomers
I literally don’t get you guys

>>42874309
>doesn't understand humans are not just one species
blacks have much more physiological differences than any other group of humans. we're ruled over by Jews and their corrupt golems and you say
>muh vidya
>muh capeshit
fuck you, fat retard

>>42874309
> I fucking don’t understand you doomers
> I literally don’t get you guys
That’s the beauty of it. You don’t have to get it or understand it. This thread was meant to thin out the herd looking for people capable of differentiating their impulsive desires from themselves and their intelligence. Im willing to bet you have a kid/kids, so you took this thread as a personal threat to your life and your children’s lives.
>lists a bunch of shit that exists in modern society that used to not exist
You understand that technology will never stop advancing right? AI will continue to get more and more advanced until it will be able to surveil everyone at once. Cybernetic implants that will seem “trendy” to the youth in 30 years will be able to alter your brain chemistry and hormone levels. These are just two of the endless horrors of technology many critical thinkers consider as a possibility before pulling the trigger on such a life changing decision as having a child in the 21st century.

>>4287430

“Inherit the earth”
You and your kin will ride pale horses into the night

>>42874307
It’s not about me. This thread isn’t about me. I am capable of observing the way our species is devolving into an abomination with behavior and thought patterns completely unrecognizable by anyone born before 1800. Nothing curious about that.

It’s pretty simple. I don’t like where our species is headed and I don’t want to create family that will suffer the same. Children that have my genetics, mental illness, my same anxiety for the future that will rub off on them. Also known as suffering.

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>>42874162
Perfectly fine to not have kids, but dont for a second think this affects anything in terms of samsara.
Souls arent created. Period.
CERTAINLY not by two bodies making another body.
There are infinite souls, and there is always a flow of souls entering samsara and souls leaving samsara.
If you dont have a body available for one, they will go to where there is a body available.

>>42874347
lol no I got no kids myself but I find your ideology absolutly repulsive and retarded
You said NOW is man made horror beyond comprehension and no it won’t be even in 100 years.
You doomers are absolutely hilarious
Literally in paradise and doom and gloom , looking for an exit, with so much free time on your hand, freed from issues that a normal man had to struggle with, so free that you actively looking for fault in such beauty and want to end your genes line
Lmao, please, do so. People who have kids, and their children children will own this earth and will live happily ever after
>the experts says that life gonna sucks so I listen to them
Shut the fuck up bitch
>>42874365
Then don’t. But stop painting it as some noble act of defiance against the world or whatever.
Please. You are not special in anyway
>>42874340
>literally no mention of video games or movies
>mentioned ACTUAL advancement that makes your life insanely MONUMENTALLY better than people living 100 years ago
(And yes, to both of you, it will IMPROVE and even get better)
Nigga I don’t even care for blacks
I just said it because he basically gave up even trying because he saw outside as “melting pot”
So what? Just rot and go extinct and let the melting pot goo inherit the earth? That’s the sick ideology that this guy is preaches

>>42874162
Also I have no issue if YOU don’t want to have kids or YOU wanna kill your self
Stop telling us that YOUR way is the best and we all are primitive and monke and you are so oh almighty enlightened for not wanting or wanting kids.
You ain’t special

>>42874365
lol that guy pretty much answered you and you have waived it with “but what about future”
Bitch the future would be just like today, you get npc wide eyed capeshiterry and basic degen stuff
And then you get some people who don’t
Just like many here didn’t
This idea of “shit gonna get so horrible” is nothing new, every gen thought of that before you, But somehow you think that DIS FUTURE is THE ONE straw that gonna break the camels back

>>42874641
>Stop telling us that YOUR way is the best
NTA, but some issues simply cant be dealt with in this way.
>YOU may not want to set fire to the house we both live in, but stop trying to control whether I do or not
Sometimes the only possible solution requires convincing others to do or not do certain things.

>>42874653
anon, op apprentely thinks world is going to shit regardless of he breeds or not, correct?
so the hours is on fire, and it gonna burn down. his solution is to just leave it , and be gone from that house.
what that SOLUTION has to do with convincing any other person to do same or not? at least make your examples less retarded next time please.
even VEGAN environmentalist idea is more compelling:
>earth is going to shit because of how much fuel we burn to keep meat industry going
>i dont want me or my kids kids kids live in a dogshit world
>so please, dont eat meat, and lets go vegan
his idea is
>world is going to shit
>i dont want me nor my kids to live in dogshist world
>i decide to not reporduce
>I AM SO SUPERIOR TO YOU, you should do like me or you are an inbred monke
see? there is no reasoning for him even TRYING to "recruit" same as all anti natalists. there is NO ONE that you responsible for is out there to suffer after you are gone, so why the fuck you care what other people go through??

>>42874633
God shut the fuck up. You’re embarrassing yourself.
>People who have kids, and their children children will own this earth and will live happily ever after
If you seriously believe that it will be “happily ever after,” that is a level of delusion that doesn’t deserve to be here. Go take your bait over to /pol/ and farm (You)‘s until your brain turns into fucking Swiss cheese.

You don’t give a shit about your offspring inheriting the earth. People like you (the majority of mankind) only care about having kids because it’s the only thing that can make your life feel fulfilled in this hollow world that is based fundamentally around sex and having kids. You’re a joke. You need to bring more people into this insanity because you’re a narcissist and you want to create people exactly like yourself. Somebody so desperate to not go “extinct.” Starved for attention. Starved for external approval.
>You are not special in anyway
>>42874641
>You ain’t special
Projecting much? The only person who wants to feel special is you desperately trying to incoherently blabber your way through an opinion and you sound ridiculous in doing so.

The absolute state of /x/. Makes me sick to my fucking stomach.

>>42874692
>op
Not talking about OP. Simply pointing out your libertarian notion simply fails.
Once you understand that, we can deal with OP.
Do YOU understand that the whole "you do you, and dont tell me what to do" is childish and fails on the most basic of issues?

>>42874633
>Just rot and go extinct and let the melting pot goo inherit the earth?
SAAAR I am not goo I am upper caste Brahmin you bloody bhenchod

>>42874692
>so why the fuck you care what other people go through??
Maybe because we have empathy for the people around us and want to prevent future suffering? The whole fucking reason I chose not to have kids in the first place?

If you really took a look at the world, how wouldn’t you be some form of a “doomer”? Is it because you’re fucking stupid?

>>42874730
Honestly. This guy talks like an Indian. There’s no other explanation. Don’t worry, you roaches aren’t going extinct anytime soon.

>>42874705
thats true and i agree that you do you, and dont tell me what to do is nor right, and its SPECIFICALLY why we are in this shithole situation to begin with. this hyper individualization thing, but in case of OP it very well fits.
>>42874694
>only care about having kids because it’s the only thing that can make your life feel fulfilled in this hollow world that is based fundamentally around sex and having kids. You’re a joke. You need to bring more people into this insanity because you’re a narcissist and you want to create people exactly like yourself. Somebody so desperate to not go “extinct.” Starved for attention. Starved for external approval.
nope. thats why i never EVER date a goblina. if i chose to have kids, it gonna be with one who don't have issues like obesity, is taller, smarter, and also have no hereditary mental issues in family.
i give you example of my family. my dad side, for some reason, are resistant to diabetes and cholesterol issues, even at old age, without doing ANYTHING different whatsoever.
then go look at hordes of Indians, and you will realize how genetically weak they are to diabetes.
i want to have kids that live better than me, and i know future WILL be better than what i have. all i need to do, is to give them the right MOM as genetic building block.
>>42874694
you actually think you are special. comparing us to monke and neaundertal, thinking you are superior for not busting a nut unprotected.
go fuck yourself and go extinct.
>>42874730
goo or poo, its runny and disgusting alright.

>>42874162
>>42874272
Very gay thread. Anyways no Christianity is not compatible with your post OP, some of it yes, but 99% of it borders on gnostic through its anti-materialism

>>42874744
>because we have empathy for the people around us and want to prevent future suffering? The whole fucking reason I chose not to have kids in the first place?
ooooo the emphatic guy think of the future of us lesser people. dont worry god-man-king, you go bye bye from human gene pool, let us losers "always happy" non doomers to control our destiny on this rock and beyond.
no seriously, you be dead. and you clearly didnt cause another soul to suffer due to your action of not having kids..there is no need for you to care about us and what we have to deal with here after you are gone, saint-kun.

>>42874759
>but in case of OP it very well fits.
How? OP's point is to stop the creation of bodies for souls. That very explicitly cant be an individual plan, but must be done by group action.
It's mystical slavery, and your response is "if you dont like it then dont own slaves"

>>42874770
no, his issue is with suffering, specifically HIS suffering and suffering of HIS KIDS in future. after he is gone, he has NO CONNECTION to this earth whatsoever. you do you FITS WELL, because its HIS IDEA. HE thinks that the world is bad and will be worse in future.
I dont. I think its great, and gonna get even better.

>>42874777
If you were able to see what’s wrong with this planet you wouldn’t be trying to defend it so badly. But you can’t see it, and that tells everyone here everything they need to know about you.

>>42874162
Satan is a liar

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>>42874254
"In reality very little was known about the proles. It was not necessary to know much. So long as they continued to work and breed, their other activities were without importance. [...], they had reverted to a style of life that appeared to be natural to them, a sort of ancestral pattern. They were born, they grew up in the gutters, they went to work at twelve, they passed through a brief blossoming- period of beauty and sexual desire, they married at twenty, they were middle-aged at thirty, they died, for the most part, at sixty. Heavy physical work, the care of home and children, petty quarrels with neighbours, films, football, beer, and above all, gambling, filled up the horizon of their minds. To keep them in control was not difficult."
-George Orwell, 1984

I used to think people made kids in a genuine way but it seem very scripted. Actually if you know what country a person is from you can tell how many kids they will have. It's all so predetermined.

>>42874777
>specifically HIS suffering
Very much wrong. OP's post isnt about their suffering, but other's suffering.
This sounds like projection and strawman.
>I dont. I think its great, and gonna get even better.
Cool. But OP's point is about other people, not you.
You can think its great and enjoy it just fine without having kids.
The very act of having kids violates "you do you" by forcing others to participate whether they want to or not.

>>42874777
I'm not gonna have KIDS so they don't have to READ your INSUFFERABLE BOOMER style of communicating in ALL CAPS like you're in some kind of DISTRESS. Calm DOWN.

>>42874162
I couldn't care less of society or the world. I refuse to have kids as I despise the premise that I am a product of ancestors. That I am just some link at the end of a chain and that as an individual I am meaningless without being part of it. I am self made and reject my family and ancestors. I am a product of my own thoughts and opinions, not just some spawn of a long line of horny insects desperate to be part of the hive. I have no right to bring anything into the world if it means burdening them with that chain. I am free.

>>42874777
>JEETSLOP!!!!

>>42874825
I know exactly what you mean. Nothing to add to what you said, just that I could very much have typed this out myself.

>>42874162
This sounds pretty retarded. You are not your entire bloodline anon, you have a bunch of people related to you.

>>42874162
maybe

i just don't want to, my genes are not that great.
like evolution or god. i'm not your pawn, thanks for the universe i'll have fun while i'm here

>>42874601
Why is a dualist talking about samsara? There are no souls

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>>42874905
Because they arent fooled by nonsense.
There are infinite souls.

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>>42874162
>Demoralization thread
Jewish hands typed this.

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>>42874162
>bust a fat nut in long haired human
Women are Satanic wyrms used by the matrix. Matrix means womb. We've gotta go Martian Meltdown and blow this motherfucking world up.

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>>42875096
Trust me.

>>42874633
>I find your ideology absolutly repulsive and retarded
Not that anon, and I don't really have any horse in the race as far as natalism vs antinatalism goes, but to say that we're living "literally in paradise" has to be one of the most disingenuous and retarded statements I've read on /x/. So because there is infinite entertainment and diversion, slop food and working toilets available we live in paradise? You don't see any problems with the trajectory of the world in the last 100 years? You see no change in the behavior of our rulers? The environment and ecosystems? No problem with infinite population growth? Or these are all problems that will be magically solved by "the AI system that can will do everything"?

>>42874808
>COOL
damn right its cool. that was my WHOLE POINT.
you and people like op go child free and "enjoy it" me and people and our kids will inherit the earth.
>act of having kids violates "you do you"
and op calling people who want kids primitive violates "you do you" too. also if we wanna go that way? not having kids cause mass migration which DIRECTLY fuck up my life when i have to wade through tons of jeets and god knows what kinda mystery meat at my old age, so then again, you are forcing me to participate in a jeetier, shitter world by not having kids... so...guess we are even? lol
>>42874822
good. go enjoy it.

The world has forsaken us, so we have forsaken it.
Our reward for their betrayal is freedom.
Strike my name from the Book of Life, and inscribe it onto the Book of Death.
Hail Kali Ma.
Hail Abbadon.

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>>42875144
Fly away with me?

>>42875135
it is A FUCKING PARADISE you dumbass, in comparison to what your ancestors had to go through. you think toilet is nothing? sanitation is nothing? entertainment is nothing? access to so much FUCKING KNOLWEDGE , in a click is nothing? not even ai, but SOOOO MUCH books are available FOR FUCKING FREE. you know how was knowledge gathering back then? you could spend centuries as a civilization to acquire books and knowledge and then one retarded steppe warrior could have BURNT all of your knowledge in a weekend just cuz he could. JOHN DEE would have sold his soul to live in this age and have access to so much information and knowledge.
medicine is nothing? we are curing shit that wouldn't even been possible to think of. hell the entire taoism immortality and youth shit was about keeping your dick hard at old age, and now you can pop a pill and be Dimond. an entire religion formed to make your dick hard, DO YOU UNDERSTAND?
even Crowley famously said that he is going to die soon and when asked why, he said i am unable to preform as a man. literally becoming limp was equal to incoming death!
i am not saying everything is great. no, its SHIT if you are in a shithole, or your soul is shithole. if you consume goyslop instead of knowledge, if you ignore the fountain youth that is medicine and skin products and chase retard mumbo-jumbo, if your entire life become consooooooom, then yes, you are shit, and you deserve to be ejected from this realm forever. but if you use it right, it is a paradise.
>muh elites, muh environment and ecoystem, muh ruler
these were always the case. your rulers were thugs who got tired of raid and rape, so they settled down.
environment is getting fucked, but its reversible, even the microplastics.

>>42875164
You listed a whole bunch of shit only a government indoctrinated brat cares about. At your final resting place, in some government run shithole, after 20 years of eating tapioca and apple sauce, you will be smothered to death by an immigrant holding a pillow. And it is there that you will realize the folly of the collection of things you wasted your life on.
Everything you listed is inconsequential to the human condition.
Its not your fault. They were permitted unfettered access to your mind for over a decade.

>>42875137
>you and people like op go child free and "enjoy it" me and people and our kids will inherit the earth.
This s the opposite.
YOU can go enjoy it because you think it's cool.
There is no reason or need to bring other people into the world for you to do this.
> op calling people who want kids primitive violates "you do you" too
OP isnt the one saying "you do you".
That was your principle, and you are the one violating it.
You cant have kids and say "you do you" because you are forcing the kids into it.

>>42875174
/thread

>>42875174
only smothered to death by an immigrant because people like YOU gave up and decided to leave this world forever. see? it takes two to tango. besides, by the time i am an old fuck, robotics would be advanced enough to dont need abdul and shanika to do shit for me.
>collection of things? such as? knowledge is a collection of things? i guess a library is a bad things now?
>you wasted life on...
as ooposte to? oh your way? die without anyone? no bro, at the very least, i died making a great offspring, not with some fat fuck goblina cause i was afraid of being lonely. but actively chasing a high quality one who can make my offspring life way easier. at least thats the goal.
one last thing, medicine, knowledge, entertainment, fucking sanitation are not government indoctrination, those are the things we wanted to and we achieved it in centuries. more to come in future too.

>>42875183
nope. my enjoyment is directly come from having an offspring that can enjoy it WAY better than me. if i think life only going to improve, then it will be cruel to not have an offspring to enjoy the world as it becoming better and better and better.
you and op and people like you think world going to shit and future offspring going to be subjected to it.
I think the world is gonna get better and i want my future offspring to experience that bless.
>you can enjoy it by yourself
op and you by not having kids violating my right to enjoy it, because less kids equal more migration which means i would see too many shitmeats. you taking my enjoyment away? see? i can play that shit game too.

>>42875197
>my enjoyment is directly come from having an offspring
If your enjoyment has to come from forcing others into a situation they may or may not want, why cant OP be in the same situation and force others into a certain situation?
>you and op and people like you think world going to shit and future offspring going to be subjected to it.
The chance for suffering is greater than the chance for enjoyment. Period.
People already alive may cope and find enjoyment - you do you - but forcing another person into it is ensuring needless suffering.
I dont even agree with OP, but the argument is sound and your counter is bad.
>op and you by not having kids violating my right to enjoy it
Oh - so now you have completely abandoned your "you do you" principle.

>>42875197
You do realize some of us are evil, right?

>>42875204
>abondoned it
hell yeah. as long as you keep pushing and shoving your deathiology on me, i will push it on you. stop violating my enjoyment.
>may cope and enjoy it.
>foricng
nah, my offspring gonna have a great time. maybe your offspring wont. but mine gonna.
chance of suffering might be great for your offspring but not mine.
>i don't even agree, but your counter is bad.
nah, my argument is perfectly straight and based. your literal argument is "What if world is shit, then i don't want kids" and i am saying nope, world gonna be great.
>>42875221
and?

>>42875274
>as long as you keep pushing and shoving your deathiology on me, i will push it on you.
Now that you have admitted your "you do you" idea is complete and total bullshit, we can determine what exactly is the proper course of action - whether OP is on the right track or not.
>my offspring gonna have a great time
Slave owners often delude themselves into thinking the ones they torture are better for it.
>What if
There is no what if.
The likelihood and amount of suffering is greater than enjoyment.
You can enjoy all you want, but forcing another sentient being to suffer - even with the slight ability to enjoy - is cruel and should not be condoned.
You had to make up bullshit that you have now completely abandoned.

>>42875274

You're an invalid genetic defect and your children will be shit eating serfs just like you.

By all means, live yours loser.

>>42874162
I agree. I wouldn't want to bring a human into this world. It's not a world I'm proud to live in.

>>42874211
This is a really good comment. I'm not OP, but I agree with you and you made your point very eloquently.

>>42875289
i still operate on the you do you though. op can die and have no kids. i don't really give a fuck, no matter how much nigerlicious society turnout to be. but if op want to portray his cucking way out as noble and my way as savage and unrefined, then i have no issue to abandon you do you temporarily to teach him a lesson
i dont get your slave owner example.
there is a what if, you ASSUME existent result in more suffering, and giving another person a CHANCE to experience this suffering (which to me is actually much chance in pleasure and joy)
if thats the case, you are consistently suffering, and op is suffering, are you not? then logically, since you like to use logic so much, then you and op killing yourself, is objectively the best way to cease suffering, is it not?
you cant tell me that bringing a new life is 100% suffering and not being alive is 0%, and still wanna live this life.
also speaking of causing suffering, you and op must be vegan then, or you are just a hypocrite.

>>42875306
speaking like a defective product.
end your line and leave the shelfs for the superior ones.

>>42874272
>We are being put into a box and there is essentially nothing that is being done or even can be done about it. Im sure those kids would feel the same, but even more so. There is nothing wrong with not wanting to feed this machine anymore.
This.

i dont care i dont care there are people getting pounded in the ass in underground bunkers. i wanna blow the world up.

>>42874273
>But they wont make the world better. They will end up being assimilated into the current apathetic melting pot that I see every day I go outside. And I will not stand to watch as kids that came from me, that I raised, fall victim to a dystopian nightmare and horrors beyond my comprehension.
This, too. I completely agree.

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>>42875187

"robotics would be advanced enough to dont need abdul and shanika to do shit for me."

That's cute, the MAGA serf thinks Artificial Intelligence is in his favor, please tell us more herald of the new dawn, go on we're listening.

>>42875347
if sanitation, medicine and nutrition technology, free knowledge, and tech was in my favor, then there is no reason to think advanced ai or robotics wont be in my favor either.

>>42874309
No previous genegeneration had access to this kind of technology and it's currently being used for mmass survelliance. People crossing state lines to go to a dispensary only to get arrested when they get home because of Flock, for example. Do you think that's normal?

Do you not understand that this will be used to surveil the minimum wage workers in the future who get shit for money, and just want to take a bathroom break? This will be used to surveil and arrest homeless people for loitering?

This will be used, not to save kids from being trafficked or to help people having medical crisis like heart attacks or strokes, but to police the previously unpoliceable "crimes" that regular people like you or I might commit?

This is not about helping anyone. This will be used to bomb people in foreign nations like Iran, for example, in the name of Israel. This will be used to ticket you for jaywalking across an empty street or accidentally bumping into a sign and knocking it over. Victimless crimes.

And you want to bring a kid into that? To raise them and say to them, "This is a world worth living in," Where rich pedophiles get away with it? Where people spend 20 years in prison over a few ounces of marijuana?

Where people have a data center right next to a elementary school so all the kids have to learn with that annoying noise right next to them, polluting their air and water? And no one can do or say anything to stop one from being built under the new laws that are going to be passed?

You think that's a world worth living in?

>>42874365
Yes, exactly.

>>42875325
>i still operate on the you do you though
You dont. You abandoned it to have any criticism of OP, and you originally dont follow it by forcing kids into existence.
>you ASSUME existent result in more suffering
No, this is fact, and you screaming assumption doesnt change it at all.
The chance and mount of suffering is greater than the chance and amount of enjoyment.
>consistently suffering
No, no one said consistently.
See how you have to run to a strawman to have any sort of argument?
>you and op must be vegan then
Once you are alive, one is morally allowed to try and keep existing.
But you bring up a good point in the amount of suffering required simply to exist.
Bringing a child into this world not only means they have a much greater chance of suffering, but they will cause much much more suffering simply to maintain life than if they never existed.

>>42874641
It's a paranormal imageboard. This is on topic. YOU clicked on this thread and opened it just to complain that OP is the one shoving it down YOUR throat. You're the one without any common sense. Just ignore threads you don't like.

>>42875367

End assessment.

>>42875306

>>42874766
>let us losers "always happy" non doomers to control our destiny on this rock and beyond.
That's your choice. And we are all allowed one.

>>42874793
This.

>>42875367
None of this is in your favor though
>sanitation
The water and air are purposely being poisoned
>medicine
The Healthcare system is more focused on extracting money from the people than helping them. Medicine is used to treat sickness rather than cure them to keep them sick and get the most value out of them
>nutrition
The nutrition guidelines are completely false and are designed to make the consumer weak and defection. Unless you honestly believe that onions, seed oils, micro plastics, declining nutrient density in crops, ultra-processed foods, and misleading nutritional labels are actually good things.

>>42875393
I love how you handwaived the hypocrisy
For you and op to be so much “anti suffering” then you can’t be anything but vegan or you gonna be a hypocrite
>this is a fact
Nah, it’s subjective
Joy trumps non existence in my books and so will be in my future kids
I still consistent in my principle as such I completely agree with >>42875399
>>42875394
>hurr durr you can’t be here
Sorry to rattle your echochamber sheepu-San
>>42875384
>this will be used for this and that
Nigga they be doing this in China for more than a decade now, yeah they will ticket you for jaywalking and know your every move
Notice how we didn’t copy their shit in USA or Europe? Why do you think NOW with new tech we gonna suddenly start becoming China?why didn’t we become China 10 years ago or so? Tech was already available.
That’s why I calling you doomers pathetic
You making a shithole scenario in your head, even though there is no indication of it , then, your solution is basically sterilizing yourself and end your genetic line. I agree this type of life you live, is not worth living and I agree that if this is the future you will see, you will install it I. Your kids too, and they too would not see any worth in it, so it’s better to never been born.

>>42874162
Its not 4 billion years.
150~

>>42875434
Nigga wtf are you on about? Sanitation is not in my favor? Clean water and waste removal don’t directly help me? Wtf. Have you ever taken a shit in a turd world shithole without a U pipe? No I know didn’t or you won’t call sanitation “bad”
>medicine keep people sick
Yeah sure, tell it to the people who used to die of diabetes or had to extract insulin out of dead people
Tell it it to the people who used to die of aids (not fags, babies who born of degenerate women or rape victims..an example of people who should go antinatalist anyway)
Tell it to the patients who saw skin cancer as literal death sentence up until new medicinal discovery in 2015
Oh and tell it to anyone who is prevented from getting skin cancer thanks to advancement in chemistry and improvement in sun screen technology
And don’t forget people in future who won’t get cancer thanks to several cancer vaccine in pipeline and live longer, healthier and better, thanks to several anti aging medicine in final trials.
>nutrition
Who GIVE A FUCK ABOUT GUIDELINES
We live in literal age of free knowledge
You can learn anything you want, hundreds of books on nutritions, hundreds of products that goes from goyslop to literal mana of gods, depends on your tax bracket
>declining nutrient density in crops
And yet we keep improving on our tech and keeps getting better and better
Only one I agree with is microplastics and also Mercury issues. But these two are no reason to say “whelp world is shit, I don’t want to subject my offspring to this horror”
Again, you can do what you want. Just don’t go all morally superior Rick and Morty scientific on me. It’s the same reason vegans and anti natalist on Reddit piss me the fuck off

>>42875479
You choosing to be ignorant of it doesn't change facts.
Google The NSA surveillance scandal and you will realize that the USA has being using the technology against its citizens since the moment they had it.

>>42875523
I don’t need to google , I am perfectly aware of that project and what kinds shit US govenrment did anyway. Hell we are on x and know of mkultra too. Again, these are not valid reasons to say “whelp, world not worth living for my offpsiring”

>>42875164
I'm not saying these things are "nothing". I'm saying they're not the only things what makes an actual paradise. You harp on and on about your dick being hard and quote fucking Crowley (a glorified trust fund baby and charlatan) though, so I understand why you think we're living in paradise.

>>42875517
Stop butchering the beautiful english dialect you babbling retard.

>>42875517
You are only proving my point. I didn't say sanitation itself was bad, I said it was being used against us because it is.
Diabetes is treated not cured. Cancer is treated not cured. Aids is treated not cured. People are helped in a way that keeps them profitable. Also that cancer cure you are talking a about, it was rejected.

The only knowledge we are allowed is the info that doesn't threaten the system. Which is very little good stuff and a whole lot of noise.
>dependent on your tax bracket
When the vast majority of people are on the bottom and forced to eat poison that means the world is being poison.

>>42874162
I love suffering. I want them all to suffer. Man should suffer the maximum amount possible, so as to achieve greatness in overcoming it.
My titan sons will totally dominate, whilst you wet blankets who think getting up for work in the morning is oppression will be forgotten to time.

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>>42874162
>>42874162
>>42874162


WORK ON DESTROYING
YOUR RECESSIVE SPIRITUAL
SUSEPTIBLE POSSESSION-TIER SNOWFLAKES BEFORE ANYTHING IS CONSIDERED NATURE WILL FIND AWAY WITHOUT YOUR DELUSION YOURE A SUNSESNITIVE MALE ATTEMPTING TO CONVINCE AN ANCIENT BEING THAT HAS STPOOD THE TEST OF YOUR TIME OF ANTAGONISTIC AND U JUSTIFIABLE PHYSICAL PRESENCE OF DESTRUCTION
GFYS

BLACK FEMALES WILL
ALWAYS HATE PEOPLE
LIKE YOU YOU DECEPTIVE
CATALYSTIC PARASITIC RAPIST

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>>42874162
>>42874162
>>42874162


AGAIN, TROGLO:

WORK ON DESTROYING
YOUR RECESSIVE SPIRITUAL
SUSCEPTIBLE TO POSSESSION-TIER SNOWFLAKE SPAWN BEFORE ANYTHING IS CONSIDERED NATURE WILL FIND AWAY WITHOUT YOUR DELUSION YOURE A SUNSESNITIVE MALE ATTEMPTING TO CONVINCE ANCIENT SOULS & BEINGS OF MULTIUNIVERSAL & MULTIDIMENSIONAL
AETHERIC AND SPIRITUAL NATURE THAT HAS STPOOD THE TEST OF YOUR TIME OF ANTAGONISTIC AND UNJUSTIFIABLE PHYSICAL PRESENCE OF DESTRUCTION
GFYS

BLACK FEMALES WILL
ALWAYS HATE PEOPLE
LIKE YOU YOU DECEPTIVE
CATALYSTIC PARASITIC RAPIST

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... not only for plants that grow in the earth, but for animals that live on it, there are seasons of fertility and infertility of both mind and body, seasons which come when their periodic motions reach full circle.

>14 I have not killed,
>15 I have not commanded to kill,
>16 I have not made suffering for anyone,
>17 I have not lessened the food offerings in the temples,
>18 I have not destroyed the loaves of the gods,
>19 I have not taken away the food of the spirits,
>20 I have not been perverse,
>21 I have not misbehaved,
>22 I have not caused infertility,
>23 I have not diminished the fields,
>24 I have not encroached upon fields,
>25 I have not laid anything upon the weights of the balance,
>26 I have not taken anything from the plummet of the standing scales,
>27 I have not taken milk from the mouths of children,
>28 I have not deprived the herds of their pastures,
>29 I have not trapped the birds from the preserves of the gods,
>30 I have not caught the fish of their marshlands,
>31 I have not diverted water at its season,
>32 I have not built a dam on flowing water,
>33 I have not quenched the fire when it is burning,
>34 I have not neglected performance of ritual,
>35 I have not withheld food from the god’s offerings,
>36 I have not opposed a god in his procession.

>>42875538
no i didn't quote Crowley to be edgy. we are in X, and i am quoting X related people, Crowley would have sold his soul to get his hand on Viagra, john dee would have sold his soul to get an entire occult library in palm of his hands, and accessible anywhere, and also i told you that a religion like Taoism is literally only there to make old men dick hard. it was just an example, to show that entire religions and belief system and cults were formed to solve something that is only a minor inconvenient to us. what i am trying to say, is that shit that was existentioal crisis a 100 years ago, are non issues today, and thats why i call it a paradise, an improving paradise, and it only continue to get better.
hell, in 20 years we look back at old movies and think "wow, why were they so afraid of cancer, that's nothing lol"
>>42875546
anon i am phone posting. i don't give a fuck. and yes English is a superior language.

>>42875659
Can you provide us with all your credentials - Mr. Main Character.

>>42875575
lol what do you mean it got rejected
>The Breakthrough Era (2011–2015)Before 2011: Advanced (Stage 4) melanoma had a 5-year survival rate of less than 5% to 10%, and median survival was only about 7 to 8 months. Chemotherapy failed to make a significant impact.The Immunotherapy Shift: Drugs called immune checkpoint inhibitors (such as anti-PD-1 antibodies like pembrolizumab/Keytruda, approved by the FDA in 2014, and nivolumab) unmasked cancer cells so the patient's own immune system could attack them.The Impact: For the first time, clinical data showed long-term, durable remissions. Instead of just buying a few extra weeks, these treatments allowed roughly 40% to 50% (or more, depending on combination therapy) of late-stage patients to achieve long-term survival past the 5-to-10-year mark.
and also there is a literal skin cancer vax that finished its fda check points
>hurrdurr mrna vax will kill you
no i dont believe that shit.
i didnt get covid vax out of moral principle because 1- you shouldnt force anything on people, they should be free to live and die as they pleased,
2- lots of manipulation and people losing their livelihood.
but i had no issue with it scientifically. it worked, and so will this new vax.
hiv used to be literal death, and now its not anymore.
>we allowed knowledge that doesnt threaten the system
ok i agree on that, partially. EASILY ACCESSIBLE knowledge (hint: magic woodoo remote viewing instructions declassified by cia) are bullshit. but lots and LOTS of info are out there that are real, and works, and still you can find them too.
>world is being posion cause shanika cant get healthy food.
ok fine that is true. but listen, its not like back was any better. hell, butter and cheese and meat were always expensive back then. look at ancient Egyptians peasants, drank wheat, and ate wheat and all had potbellies, while their inbred kings and queens were depicted with flat stomachs.
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>>42874162
Jew mind rot has had its way with you.
You are the fruition of their fantasies of causing the goyim to self inflict genocidal extermination.
A vast amount of work went into putting the ideas before you that you have ingested and made your own.

Study nature. Fix the error and the harm through knowledge of natural ways of life.

Accept no indoctrination. Use your own perception to engage with the universe.
Your enemies are planning to thrive in the space left to them by your failures and absence.

>>42875683
>>42875575
part 2: then a dude cameout and created cheap freaking butter for public (margarin) and now you call it goyslop.
they make factory farming happen to give cheap meat and milk and cheese, cheap fruit etc, and now you call them goyslop too. then the FUCK you want? you want expensive shit? go to farmer market, and its STILL a fraction of cost that was in old times, OR you can go to Walmart and buy them cheap. you have options, is anything gonna make you happy?
Oh and you talked about medicine being shit and all. you know how was medicine back then? any good "doctor" was reserved to the royalty. regular people "doctors" were butchers/barbers/bath attendants who pulled your teeth, did amputation surgery, and put your shoulder back in. if you had a regular disease, guess what, your local doc wouldn't even seen you, you would have pissed in a jar and they would have examined it.
if paracelsus was alive, and saw you talking shit about our miraculous medicine and ACTUAL caring doctors (in oppose to what was back then) he would have smacked you up and down for being so ungrateful.
>>42875672
you got an ai, and any books you wanna read for free in pdf format. but fine, you tell me what point that i made was wrong or doubtful and i clarify on them.

>>42875683
>>42875713
The entirety of your argument is "yes the world is shit but it used to be shittier". Well guess what? The world is still shit.
Yes, MRNA is poison.
Yes, margarine is slop.
The sheer fact that you acknowledge the dystopian tactics used against the people during the quarantine and the NSA spying on its own people while saying these systems are there to help us is insane.
You are either glowing or so indoctrinated you cant tell the difference between the taste of shit and actual real food.