>>42876396
ngl this is fucking fascinating especially the portrait detail. If that kid really knew that stuff before anyone could’ve told him, then yeah, that’s weird as hell.
I still need some kind of scientific proof tho. But I'm looking at this from a distance while the family actually experienced it. Personally, I’d call it genuinely unexplained if anything they say is true.

The skeptic take is that the kid was making it up and just got very lucky; ergo skeptics have no explanation for the uncanny nature of past life memories which are so specific and credible.

They can only call it randomness and nothing more, because admitting that a memory pattern has re-risen after the brain has died is like instant ontological death for the skeptic. They won't even attempt a scientific explanation for it because it would require a paradigm shift in the implicit axioms used to examine the world.

In short, skeptics will never be able to admit these cases represent evidence of life beyond death, because as soon as they do their skepticism dies.

>>42876396
I don't even know if any of the fantastical elements of this collection of anecdotes are true. Assuming the adults in this story aren't just straight up running a hoax, there are many possible mundane explanations that could all snowball into each other resulting in this polished gem of a story. It's designed to appeal to people who already believe and desperately need it to be true for whatever emotional reasons. "Uncanny"? "Shouldn't be expected to believe"? Loaded language. Now, I'm not actually a sleptic of the Shermer or Randi sort. I know ghosts exists because I've encountered them enough times and while in the company of other people who represent independent minds that aren't my own who also saw the same phenomenon. But I'm not in the business of selling books, magazines or blog posts about the paranormal, so I'm not gonna go out of my way to get in people's faces and go "Ghosts are REAL. You HAVE to believe this personal anecdote of mine."

>>42876849
Okay I’m actually curious now. what kind of ghosts have you encountered? Were the other people there seeing the exact same shit or was it more of a 'i saw something' situation?

>>42876849
>Assuming the adults in this story aren't just straight up running a hoax
And there’s your answer.

>>42876900
Nta but this was my experience as well. I was in a building I worked at with no prior knowledge or expectation and I saw them, it wasn't a physical apparition but it's like I knew they were there and their image was telepathically imprinted into my mind. I went to talk to some coworkers about it who all told me "yeah there's that one and the other one...." Explaining in detail exactly what I experienced and that they knew about them for awhile and several people confirmed this. Except I hadn't yet told them I saw them too yet.

Whatever the explanation we all experienced the same thing. I'm more of the belief it's some sort of dimensional crossover or time dipulation but spirits is a good neutral term for this phenomenon

>>42876966
Okay wait. What did you see/experience? Like what did the image in your head feel like when it happened? Was it just an instant knowing, or did you actually get a clear impression of what they looked like and who they were?

>>42876849
How do you explain the apparent authenticity of the child?
And if ghosts are real, the soul must be and if souls are real, reincarnation may very well be real.

>>42876900
Me and my friends in high school have always been into visiting supposedly haunted places just to see what we can see. A lot of us were skeptics so we made this rule: if you see something, don't vocalize it out loud like some Ghost Adventures fratboy. Make a note of it mentally and then write it down afterward, and then we reveal at the same time with as little chance as possible of people colluding to "get their stories straight" so to speak. It was a goofy rule but a few of us were really anal about not wanting to cross pollute and colorize each others' experiences. It's tough trying to not over react in real time as the haunting is clearly happening and we are all clearly reacting to it. The best/worst ones were apparitional appearances, and of course that shit doesn't show on any of our phone cameras. It's a really honest way for people who believe in a paranormal phenomena to treat it though. Like, an extreme empirical method.

>>42877143
How do I know that what is apparent (as you say) is the actual truth? I'm having to have faith in other people's reportage here.
>And if ghosts are real, the soul must be and if souls are real, reincarnation may very well be real
Kinda feels like a non sequitur. I can say for myself that ghosts are real because I've seen them, but I have no personal experience with reincarnation, so at best I can only suspend my judgment on it for now. Just because ghosts are real doesn't necessarily mean that reincarnation is real. That's a separate matter that would have to be verified by its own merits instead of tailgating on the back of the matter of ghosts.

>>42877188
>I'm having to have faith in other people's reportage here.
Well, I mean, there's video footage of the boy crying about saying goodbye to himself in the spot where he allegedly was shot down, footage of him at 6 saying all this stuff, and of course the sister of the original James Huston actually believed the story of a 6 year old. That'd be an odd thing to do if he was not plausible.
>Just because ghosts are real doesn't necessarily mean that reincarnation is real
Yeah but where else would souls go after they get tired of ghosting around?
Besides, if ghosts are real, reincarnation isn't much of a stretch.

>>42877320
people have a hard time believing in reincarnation because they don't want to believe in it. It's just our ego trying to cope with it all from our limitations of understanding.
Hell, even if reincarnation is real, the process is probably more complicated. Like being born in a past timeline

>>42877338
>being born in a past timeline
At risk of revealing my own biases, this is the thing I want more than anything else in the world.
Well, almost anything.

>>42877320
People have been made to believe in more ridiculous things before.
>Besides, if ghosts are real, reincarnation isn't much of a stretch.
Might not be for you, but it is for me. I would rather experience something to be true instead of making lazy if-so-then type of about it. I'm gonna say this to you and this guy >>42877338: If I haven't encountered it for myself, I'm not gonna think of it as real. To believe or not believe is a matter of faith, whereas I'm more touching on the vein of sense-making, empirical data and what someone can assert for themselves as true based on experiential knowledge. Where else would souls go other that reincarnation? I don't know, but I wouldn't say with certainty something is true if I haven't experienced it first hand. It's intellectually and metaphysically lazy and dishonest. If you want to believe that reincarnation is true, that's fine by me. But you're gonna have to be fine about me not believing anything about it.

>>42877338
Or we are one entity just living all lives across all time non-linearly. Concepts like karma make a lot more sense if punching someone is both inflicting harm and harming yourself simultaneously. Love you guys.

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looping > reincarnation

>>42876396
Toddlers don’t remember how to build ww2 jet engines unless it’s from a past life
I believe

>>42877388
You are truly humble and rational. Max respect.

>>42877033
Instant knowing and sense of someone being there and who they were. The first was a feeling of calmness, welcoming and kind. I said hello to it the moment I felt it there, right as I reached the top of the stairs and in front of their room. For me it's like tne moment I see a cat and I'm so happy and I meow at them. The image I had and that everyone confirmed was that it was a young boy, friendly amd caring and looking out for us.

Then I felt an overwhelming negative energy and something looking at me and turned left to look into another room, and the image of this one was an old person who was very unkind and unqelcoming. It felt horrible and I was confused and wanted to leave but stuck in a feeling of dread. I was afraid it would push me down the stairs. However I eventually was able to move and go where I was intending and on my way back down it wasn't staring at me from the doorway anymore. I never saw them again.

When I discussed it I was told tne same images were felt and seen, they called the old one a woman but at first I thought it was a man, I think I was too caught off guard. Some experiences they shared were seeing the shadow figure pass behind them in the mirror, or water turning on by itself. For me I just experienced the phone being static in the room next to the one that brings dread.

So to summarize the sense of them was automatic and the image of who or what they are was clear in my mind. I can't tell you what they were wearing or what time period they might be from.

I don't know the history of the place but it was in Prague which is considered very haunted. It could be this was their home and original rooms they slept in.

>>42876396
Oh shit, I forgot to even post the video in my OP

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6B27WRX0Auw

Actually I recall some called it a man and I think one person called it a woman. And they are confined to those rooms, they cannot go into the hallway or other rooms. They are aware of each other but cannot even be in the same room. And they didn't say anything, so no messages or words, just the actual energy of their intentions.

>>42876811
>scientific proof tho
Same until I had an NDE. We're all connected... or at least some of us. I do believe in humans sans soul

>>42876396
Sounds legit

>>42879269
Yeah, I’m not convinced. Sounds like you’re making shit up for attention. Neck yourself, bruh.

>>42881907
Bro, stop fucking pretending to be me just so you can shit on people for sharing their stories. If you wanna be an asshole, at least do it as anon or have the balls to do it under your own name. Thank you to everyone sharing your stories. I’m reading them all right now, and some of this shit is genuinely fascinating.

Even in the most atheistic ontology, reincarnation makes sense. The fact there is a self poses a problem for staunch materialism. Even if you grant that consciousness as a broad phenomena is an epephenomenon created by brains, the fact anyone holds unique consciousness with a self-hood that is unique to an individual, is a serious philosophical problem for any ontology, but especially one in which matter is primary. That said, anyone who is alive and self aware must concede they have a unique center of awareness, for whatever reason, and this unique selfhood is predicated on some set of preconditions that is not understood. Whatever the signature of self is, and whatever its prerequisites are, you know that it is totally possible, given that you exist now and know you exist. Given an eternity, whatever conditions made "you" possible now, whatever that is, can absolutely happen again if the conditions are exactly right.

>>42882222
Checked for deepness and also for repeating numbers.
This post deserves quads.

>>42877729
Whats that?

who the fuck cares about what le skeptics think? go tell this story on reddit and you'll have your answer

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>>42882222
>The fact there is a self

>>42881907
>>42881966
Can't I leave the thread for a moment without at least two anons pretending to be me? Or are you a samefag arguing with yourself?

>>42876396
I'll give y'all a small hint.
if you are about to die and you see your life flashing before your eyes, focus on your earliest memory so you can jump there and presto, you are back in time as good as new.
though mind you the whole travel will suck ass for you as you'll feel the phantom pain at first.

>>42882300
I like a happy medium not schizo level dedicated belief and not npc skepticism but someone willing to really analyze the phenomenon and find the best explanation

So many people never experience anything and deny it or explain it away as psychosis and others constantly lie, paranormal isn't something you can prove it's just unexplainable through human concepts and defies time and space as humans perceive it.

SW261 whichever you are I hope you got your answer. I can tell you exactly where this is and you could tey ro experience it or chat with someone but it's an adult entertainment place and you'll likely have to pay something to get in. However if you do and there is a girl named Alice ask for her she'll tell you. The managers won't talk about it. (In case I lose thread it's sweet paradise dolly in prague, I doubt they want me spreading this story around but it's too interesting lol)

>>42882724
Pff ha apparently not. I leave for five fucking minutes and two evil clone spawn and that's fine. Just don't shit on people sharing their stories( i know this is probably just gonna encourage you guys to do it even more)

>>42882222
>Given an eternity, whatever conditions made "you" possible now, whatever that is, can absolutely happen again
Not if time is a component of self.
"You" at t=1 will be different than "you" at t=100, even if all the conditions are exactly the same.

>>42882736
Is this what happened to you?

>>42876396
>His memories and the intensity of his connection to James Huston faded as he got older.
This is what always gets me. What's the point of it all if you're just to forget?

I read Life Before Life, A Scientific Investigation of Children’s Memories of Previous Lives
and in almost every case they eventually forgot. If anything the only reason they didn't forget is some other people they knew (usually family) would bring it up again to them. Its like most of the time the prior life's memories are usually just forgotten as though the new self overwrites it. Its like why even have this strong attachment to something that goes through lives if it's going to be forgotten anyway? Barely any of them retain the memories in such a way that have any real significance beyond a very few rare cases. At very base they're still a brand new persons that just has similar quirks to the past self.

>>42882222
See this to me doesn’t make sense. For what possible purpose does this greater me have for total forgetting? Don’t forget that like 99% of people don’t even have past live memories anyway. People say garbage like oh that’s just your ego being defensive but then why forget my ego is temporary in the first place? To me I think that reincarnation is something for stupid people, people that watch basic sitcom TV that want some generic “life show” so they forget the last series and do it again and again. By "forgetting" the past lives and thinking this new one is the only and all, you establish deeper connections with the current life. Its a cheap way of “chasing first times” and lazy ways of overcoming ego driven hurdles by just replacing it with a brand new one. When I die I will fight with every fiber of me being to reject such a thing, to forget is to commit suicide.

>>42883904
>What's the point of it all if you're just to forget?
Novelty.
>By "forgetting" the past lives and thinking this new one is the only and all, you establish deeper connections with the current life. Its a cheap way of “chasing first times”
Exactly.
You cant really live a life knowing nothing but poverty if you remember a life of great luxury.
People think there is some lesson, but that is wrong. there is no lesson here.
Or rather, the only lesson is "there's nothing here - get out."
This place is not a prison, it isnt a school, it's an indulgence.
A distraction. A waste of time, if time can be wasted.
> I will fight with every fiber of me being to reject such a thing, to forget is to commit suicide.
It's possible to remember, if rare, but also pointless.
Just another material distraction to chase.
Which is fine. You have endless lives to mess around.

>>42883904
>At very base they're still a brand new persons that just has similar quirks to the past self.
I disagree.
Your personality is largely set in place by age 8. If you can remember your previous life and assimilate the important lessons you've learned over an entire lifetime by 8, you can forget every detail yet still be a much better person in this life.
Furthermore, the human brain is probably not capable of remembering every detail of your current life, let alone multiple lives. Imagine how confusing it would get if you held crisp memories of this life, your previous life, and the one before that. You'd be juggling so much meaningless information.
I'll bet that you barely remember anything that happened to you before you were 10. The human brain simply cannot retain so much information.

>When I die I will fight with every fiber of me being to reject such a thing
If I am reborn, I will do the same.

>>42881966
Odds are people like that are either genuinely retarded or are on assignment.
They probably have a formula for how many turds they throw into each birthday cake.. a turd quota designed to damage every single thread as it develops.
..or they are genuinely retarded and have become frustrated with their own lack of experience and are here to attack anyone else that claims to have had some success in their pursuit of experience.

I have lots.

Enough that the content merits books not threads..

Several things are simultaneously true; you live your lives sequentially and they have all already happened.
The events of the multiple experiences are layered in together and various energetic forms are persistent through the development, larger than a single person who is repetitively appearing in your existence.. entire arrays of structure are persistent thorough this context of experience..

There really is a lot to learn. It starts with being fully conscious while out of body.. during sleep or otherwise. Evaluate your ability to perceive by tangible physical material observation that can be verified. Only once you have established a reasonable expectation of positive identification of a target can you begin to examine material that you have no access to physical material confirmation of accuracy.

It serves little purpose to attempt to offer the information to those who have no meaningful relationship to the functions of perception used to gather knowledge of these aspects of our existence. They are confused enough as it is. What possible reaction is available to them? Of course they reject the notion. Even if they conceptually support the information they have no basis in personal experience with observation of their own evidence.

>>42877338
Or a loosh farm

>>42877729
Red pill me on looping sempai

>>42884820
He just likes spamming that everywhere.
The core concept is that, at some point in the future, you will be given the chance to travel to any previous moment of your life, and keep living it from there.
And that when that happens, you get a deja vu because you already lived that, the deja vu causes your life to be different because you didn't have it originally.
But that anon hopes he'll get to keep his memories after looping.

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>>42876396
the skeptic take is that its a random little story niggas tell me. with little info to go off, i can only guess. maybe the story was completely made up. maybe the kid was told what to say for some press release if there ever was one (who knows since theres little to no info at all). maybe he said some stuff that was misinterpreted. maybe he got some details through luck. maybe a combination of all of the above. with no info to go off, i have to assume its some bs until proven otherwise (not through hearsay). pretty simple. dont believe every random thing u read on the internet btw

>>42877143
what "apparent authenticity of the child"? i dont know literally anything about the child except that he appears in this random made up hearsay story

>>42877320
wheres that video footage?

>>42879272
didnt see the "6 year old crying" footage in this video here

I asks an LLM about and it:
"H = The kid is the reincarnation of fighter pilot James Huston Jr.
¬H = The kid is not reincarnated (coincidence, fraud, cryptomnesia, or parental confirmation bias).
E = The kid knows specific, unprompted details about the pilot and the secret portraits.

Assigned Estimates (Based on scientific consensus):
P(H) (Prior Probability): 10^-9 (Extremely low, as reincarnation lacks a proven biological or physical mechanism).
(P(E|H)) (Likelihood): 0.80 (High probability the kid would know these details if he actually were the pilot).
(P(E |¬H)) (False Positive): 0.001 (1 in 1,000) (Low probability of knowing this via forgotten TV docs, internet research, or leading questions).

FORMULA.
(10^-9*0.8)/((0.8*10^-9) + (0.001*0.999999999)) ~ 0.00008%

~~~
Bayesian analysis weighs the strength of new evidence against the initial likelihood of a claim.The core issue here is the infinitesimally low prior probability (P(H)) of reincarnation. For the hypothesis to be highly probable, the evidence must be so bulletproof that it cannot be explained by any other means.While the kid's knowledge of the portraits is startling, the alternative explanation -- (P(E|¬H)) -- is much more grounded in reality. Even if we assume there is only a tiny 1-in-1,000 chance that the child overheard a conversation, saw a documentary, or was subtly guided by emotional parents, that mundane alternative is still one million times more likely than a violation of known laws of physics and biology.Conclusion: The testimony is compelling to the family, but mathematically, the evidence is not strong enough to overcome the initial improbability. Reincarnation remains highly unlikely."

So, the skeptic does with the apriori

>>42885170
Suppose I draw a card from a shuffled deck. I claim it's the Queen of Spades.
Bayesian analysis will claim the chances I'm being truthful is 1.92307692307692%
Now I draw another, I claim it's the Ace of Hearts.
Suddenly, the chances of being the truth fall down to 0.0377%.
I now draw another card and claim it's the 2 of Clubs, oh dear, now they have fallen to 0.00075%!
However, after turning them over, you see that they're the Queen of Spades, the Ace of Hearts, and the 2 of Clubs, and all I was doing was naming the cards I was drawing.
Now, grab to your seat!
This time, there's a third person in the room, it plays the character you played, with her Bayesian analysis, and you get to see the cards I draw, before I call them.
What you see me is calling one after another, I draw a card, see what it is, and say what it is, for the entire deck.
For you, I just did that, but for her with the Bayesian analysis, I just performed a miracle, the chances that I drew the cards in that order are staggering low! It's way more likely that I was lying! It's way more likely that if you tell her I just named the cards that appeared, that she doesn't believe you!
Heck, it's even more likely that I had a tricked deck that only had the 7 of Diamonds repeating and I lied about all the cards, unless when it appeared I named it!
But then I show her the deck and she is shocked to see that all cards matched with what I said! Wow!
Bayesian analysis just assumed I could be lying about any announced card, so being truthful about all of them was an almost impossible feat.
And that's why you can't use it to calculate that the chances I'm going to tell the truth about every single card is as impossible as shuffling a different deck and getting the same order, because I had already decided I was going to call them as I saw them.

>>42883881
>Not if time is a component of self.
>"You" at t=1 will be different than "you" at t=100, even if all the conditions are exactly the same.

You've been the same continuity of being your whole life, and for that time your awareness didn't shift into someone else. These arguments that you are a fundamentally different person from one moment to the next requires a lot of mental gymnastics. The experience of youneas or meness is fundamentally unchanged. You don't zip in and out of anyone else's experience and stay strangely anchored to your own center of awareness your whole life. I'm just as much fundamentally me as I was when I was 4. Perspective changes and experience and memmiry accumulates but the fundamental Iness (being a unique point of awareness) is still the same Iamnesa and fundamentally my own.

>>42876948
except he details his methodology for verifying that the parents' accounts were not fabricated.

>>42882616
>>The fact there is a self
Why do you scoff as if what I say is absurd? Do you not have a self? Are you a philosophical zombie or an NPC. If not, it should be the most plain fact of daily experience anyone should be able to attest to. Or have you bought into Buddhist faggotry about self being an illusion?

>>42876396
>His memories and the intensity of his connection to James Huston faded as he got older.
This is like something from a horror movie, where you just become slowly erased and wrote over with an alien persona because of invisible background processes, eating you out like a spirit cancer.

If that ever started happening to me I'd just shoot myself.

>>42885035
This is from a book thobeit

>>42885035
>>42885960
yeah ive read it in jim b tucker's book but theres plenty of source, it's not a 4chin larp

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/357905243_The_James_Leininger_Case_Re-Examined

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1550830716000331

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27079216/

Why can’t the incarnate spirit remember its past?

4. “As human beings you cannot, and may not, know everything. God, being wise, has determined so. Without the veil that hides certain things from you, you would be dazzled, as if you had suddenly passed from darkness to light.

Through the forgetfulness of the past, you are more fully your essential selves.”

How can we be held responsible for our deeds, and rid ourselves of our faults, if we do not remember them?
How can we gain by experiences acquired in lives we have forgotten? We might understand that the trials of life are a lesson to us if we could only recall the wrongs that have brought those trials about. But if we forget our former lives, each new life must be like the first one, so that all the work must begin again. How can we reconcile this with God’s justice?

4. “With each new life a spirit becomes more discerning and more capable of distinguishing between good and bad.

What would happen to free choice, however, if the spirit remembered all its past?

When a spirit re-enters its original life (that is, the spirit-life), its whole past unrolls before it, revealing the wrongs it committed, the causes of its sufferings, and what it could have done to prevent its faults.

It then understands the justice of the situation it is in and seeks out a new life that will help it repair the mistakes of the life it has just left. It asks for a new trial similar to the one in which it failed or which it considers likely to aid its progress. And it requests that its superiors in the spirit-world help it to succeed in the new trial.

It knows that the spirit who will guide it in the new life will give it an intuition of its past faults and so assist in curing them.

These intuitions come like a natural, deeply felt desire to resist certain impulses. You may attribute your resistance to the teaching you have received from your parents, but it is in reality the voice of your conscience. It is an echo of your past, warning you not to fall back into the faults of your previous lives.

The person who undergoes the trials of the incarnate life with fortitude and resists its temptations consequently rises in the hierarchy of spirits when he or she returns to the spirit-world.”

>>42886464
While we don’t have an exact memory of what we have been and done in the past, we do have, during our present incarnate life, an intuition of our previous lives.

This intuition takes the form both of instinctive tendencies and conscience.

In other words, the intuition of the past gives rise to an intent to avoid committing the same mistakes again.

Our forgetfulness of our past lives, especially the painful ones, offers a striking example of the wisdom and goodness of God. Only on the most advanced worlds, where the memory of painful lives will be no more than the shadowy memory of a bad dream, will we be able to recover the memory of our past in its entirety.

By contrast, in worlds such as ours, the memory of past miseries would only magnify our present hardships. Such considerations lead us to conclude that whatever has been created by God is for the best. It is not up to us to find fault with God’s works or decide the way the universe should be governed.

The memory of former personalities during our present lives would bring with it many serious disadvantages. In some cases, it would cause us to be cruelly humiliated. In others, it might inflate us with pride and vanity. In all cases, it would hinder the action of our free will.

God gives us just what is necessary and sufficient for our betterment—i.e., the voice of conscience and our instinctive tendencies—and keeps from us anything detrimental.

Moreover, if we could remember our own former personalities and actions, we would also remember those of other people, and that kind of knowledge could have a disastrous influence on our social relations.

Since we don’t always have reason to be proud of our past, it is obviously better that a veil has been thrown over it.

These facts are in perfect agreement with the statements of spirits concerning life on more advanced planets. On those planets, where virtue reigns, there is nothing painful in past memories, and so their inhabitants remember their preceding lives as we remember today what we did yesterday.

Their sojourns on less advanced planets are no more to them, as we have said, than the memory of an unpleasant dream.

When a spirit reaches the end of its term in the spirit-world, it chooses the trials that, in its next incarnation, will speed up its progress. In other words, it requests the kind of life that will help it advance.

The trials of the new life always correspond to the faults of which the spirit must cleanse itself. If it succeeds in this struggle, it rises in rank; if it fails, it will have to try again.

A spirit always possesses free will. While in the spirit-world, it uses its free will to plan the kind of life it wants to experience on Earth. Once here, it uses free will to decide what to do and to choose between right and wrong.

In the incarnate life, the spirit temporarily forgets its former lives, as if they were hidden from it by a veil. It retains its free will, however, since to deny humans that quality would be to reduce them to machines.

Still, some occasionally have a vague consciousness of their former lives which, under certain circumstances, may actually be revealed. But this occurs only as a result of a decision of higher spirits, who make the revelation spontaneously and always for some useful end—never to gratify idle curiosity.

Nor can a spirit’s future lives be revealed during its incarnate life, since the quality of these lives will depend on the manner in which it lives its present one and on its own personal choices.

The temporary forgetfulness of mistakes is no obstacle to a spirit’s improvement. The knowledge it had of them as a free spirit, and its own desire to overcome them, guide it intuitively, inspiring it to resist the tendency toward wrong-doing while incarnate.

This inspiration is the voice of conscience, which the good spirits reinforce if the person is only willing to listen to their advice

Although a person does not know exactly what acts he or she committed in a former life, a sense of previous faults and character is usually discernible. We need only study ourselves to know what the self has been—not by what it is at the moment, but by its tendencies.

The difficulties of the incarnate life act both to redeem us of past errors and to make us better in the future, provided that we bear them with fortitude and without complaint.

The nature of the difficulties and trials we must undergo may also enlighten us as to what we have been and done, just as we infer the crimes of which a convict has been guilty from the penalty the law inflicts on him.

Thus, the individual who has erred through pride may be humiliated and placed in an inferior position.

The self-indulgent and greedy person may find poverty.

The hard-hearted one may be treated severely.

The tyrant may know subordination.

The bad son may meet with the ingratitude of children.

The idle may be subjected to hard work.

Just so do our earthly trials unfold.

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>42886557
>>42886553
>42886480
>42886469
>>42886464
>42886454
sauce

and theres many more answers for you by channeled spirits

>>42885933
>methodology
Lol my sides!

>>42886581
>intuition
>intuitions
>intuitively
All the people that try to explain reincarnation hide behind this flimsy word. I can assure you most people don't have such "feelings". As in they are not consciously aware of the intuition, they don't act in a certain way and go "wow where did that come from it must have been my intuition". Sure some do and good for them but most people don't have clear ideas of it. The intuition for these people is so blended into their psyche and subconscious that it just comes out at all times in a way you are completely oblivious too. Which than means what's the point?

The idea of having lessons and challenges you desire to overcome, but also think they should be overcame in a new state in which you barely remember their point is contradictory. Like asking a student at school "Do you know what you did wrong here?" and the teacher refuses to answer until the kid guesses correctly. Its by far the most inefficient way of overcoming those trials. And even then what's the point? If its a new life why should the errors of the past even matter to the new one? Why not completely annihilate the memories entirely so that problem isn't there anymore? They'd say that doing that mean you didn't learn anything, but I didn't learn anything anyway because you made me forget the thing until it was just some subconscious thought that barely felt foreign to my own. They say that remembering might cause problems, so just go to a world where its not.

To me reincarnation, especially the idea of doing it tons and tons of times, is just some peer pressured tradition no one wants to question. I picture a bunch of old men in robes saying "um but that's how we've always done it its the best you just don't get it!" and then they ramble things like "God did it like that on purpose!" like it somehow justifies all the things they can't explain. Its like no one questions these things and lets any soul that appears smart impose whatever they want on them.

>>42882736
>my earliest memory is from when I Was 3 years old
not bad

>>42876396
Many Lives, Many Master. Read it if you are ready, no issue if you are not. Reincarnation has an endless stream of circumstantial evidence, will never pass modern scientific standards but take it as you will. Try to be better a learn in this life.

>>42885917
>You've been the same continuity of being your whole life
Arguable, but that doesnt refute what I said about time being a component of self.
>The experience of youneas or meness is fundamentally unchanged.
The experience ALSO has been unbroken temporally.
Break that temporal aspect and you break selfhood.

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>>42883910
Imagine retaining memory AND reincarnating in a past timeline. Is this how people get filthy rich? Is this "time-travel"?

>>42887608
no
nothing anyone ever got rich off of was advanced enough as a concept or an invention to have possibly been from the future

anyway, unless you count what tesla was dealing in... but he died in penury

>>42887639
fuck, I just noticed how illogical this post is
I wrote it while getting drunk

>>42876396
Sceptic originally meant suspending dogmatic beliefs, ie being open minded. If you try to explain away things with a fixed rigid framework such as materialism and everything must have a "science-y" explanation, and you aren't open to other possibilities, you're not really a sceptic.

>>42887832
>bro please believe my reincarnation dogma
>and no I won't show you hard evidence just be open minded bro
Ok

>>42887847
>A strawman argument is a logical fallacy where someone misrepresents or exaggerates an opponent's position to make it easier to attack
Go fuck yourself.

>>42888084
You're mad because I don't follow your dogmatic beliefs

>>42886958
not gonna read your sperging sorry

>>42885037
>>42885042
Sorry, I forgot to include the video in op
See >>42879272

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>>42886605
>Lol my sides!

>>42887350
Same

>>42886958
In the introduction tho, Kardec explains that you can tell spirits apart by their level of spiritual progress. Less advanced spirits are far more likely to play games, waste your time, or pretend to be famous people or family members. Plus, passing away doesn't automatically make anyone wise or knowledgeable, when you die, you only carry over what you learned and experienced during your lifetime.

>>42887608
Let's say that you died at 61 and reincarnated as yourself in 1967.
Firstly, how does memory work? If memory is physically stored in your brain, everything that makes you "you" is gone. Not even forgotten but never happened at all.
So we're going to assume that memories exist outside of the physical brain.

Say that you looped into your newly born self. In that horrific moment, you are as fully conscious as you are now with all your present memories. Yet the hippocampus your mind is working with is undeveloped. So you're not able to hold thoughts together. You cannot even access them. That IS a hard limitation since scientific studies of people with undeveloped or damaged hippocampus display poor or broken memory retention.
As you grow older, all your previous memories are distorted or erased by the time you are able to speak. By then, what is left to "game the system" and get rich?
If you returned to yourself in 1986, would you even remember Bitcoin by the time you were 18? I doubt it

>>42888096
What part is dogmatic?

>>42888096
>>42887847
people ignore even solid evidences just because it isn’t taught in school or pushed by the government. the mainstream system moves slowly, and most people assume that if something was important, they would’ve heard about it already.
digging into topics outside of the box takes actual effort. normies are busy they rely on standard sources, and assume "common knowledge" covers everything worth knowing, even though history shows official sources miss or ignore things all the time.

>>42888230
and on top of that education and spirituality has been highjacked by the Jesuit niggers and the frankist Jews

>>42885170
>pull assumed probabilities on something you have no fucking empirical evidence on whatsoever
>"""""calculate"""" """estimated""" probability
>i am so smart

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