Interesting. Seems like God and the angels play favorites, because a lot of people who go through with suicide or attempt never have any help or protection happen at all.
>>42885063Yep.
>>42885063If you help somebody who's low to escape the doldrums of depression and suicide then God plays favorites through you. What's left behind after he moves on is yours to keep.
>>42885084There's children who commit suicide and God is literally doing nothing at all, just lets it happen. I remember seeing a young girl who was upset hang herself and he streamed it. Gross video but I saw it. People reported it but it was too late.God didn't intervene. Her guardian angels if she had any didn't life a finger. The poor girl died in pain and humiliation and darkness. I'm sure she was well as soon as she left her body, but if God was kind he would have spared her to die like this and traumatize many watchers.
>>42885101Remember that next time somebody close to you is going through something and you wonder if your efforts will seem like too much or be awkward.
>>42885063That's how religious people are esp Abrahamics, they think they're special, they're chosen or divinely ordained. You see it all the time with the schizos even on this board, it's why they always act self-righteous and passive-aggressive
>>42885101But God isn't kind, he just is, being kind is YOUR duty, not Gods.
>>42885149God set the table but he won't prevent you from spilling wine on your shirt.
>>42885159Everyone who complains about evil in the world, has never done any extra little thing to prevent it, because if they did there would be far less evil in this world.Blaming God is just an excuse for not being a good human being.
>>42885165Nigga what gives you the arrogance and confidence to make deranged claims like this? I have spent a lot of my money on animal rescues, who try to help some of the weakest and most vulnerable in our world to get basic health care and one meal a day. >>42885149Again, some people do get saved by God and protected by him. What is that if not kindness from God towards that specific chosen person?
>>42885173Treasures in heaven anon. What good is an earthly treasure in heaven? So what did He mean?
>>42885173helping animals does not make you a good human being, it just makes you a farmer....Being a good human being requires that you spend every day giving a kind word, helping people, being kind and not judging.You will not do this.Also, of course Gods gifts are random, it's not like anyone really deserves it, he gives just enough to show you he is real, nothing more, you have to choose to belief, that is your duty.
>>42885165>Blaming God is just an excuse for not being a good human being.Christians literally cannot have a conversation without making insane assumptions about the other person. That's how you know it is a cult; because they view everyone who isn't apart of their religion as 'lost' or 'evil'.
>>42885188>of course Gods gifts are randomweird flex but ok
>>42885189Man has spend most of his infancy killing, raping and stealing, therefor assuming he is evil is not insane, it is completely sane.
>>42885192Do you get the logic, we do not deserve his gifts so there is no real measurement to decide.
I asked Ai why some pacts the payment is collected in afterlife. The answer was rather stupid.
>>42885188You said people who complain about God never did any "extra little thing" to prevent is. How is the suffering of the innocent and helpless not EVIL? Cats and dogs starved, filled with parasites, sick and abandoned. Giving them respect, a meal and care is reducing evil in this world.
>>42885063aah yes, the good old God came into my dreams, told me his will, and said he will never appear again in anybody else's dream and that's how Quran was born.And people fucking believe this shit.
>>42885063The Third Angel Phenomenon (most commonly known as the Third Foot Effect or Third Man Syndrome), though scientists officially call it a psychological presence or sensing a presence.It occurs when individuals find themselves under extreme physical stress, life-threatening danger, or intense isolation—such as mountaineers, polar explorers, shipwreck survivors, and astronauts. They suddenly experience a vivid, distinct feeling that an unseen person or entity is right beside them, often offering calm advice, encouragement, or specific instructions that help them survive
>>42885212Good is taking care of people, taking care of animals if just being a farmer and being good is not a job, it's a social relationship with other people. The difference is that taking care of animals does not cause embarrassment or anguish, taking care of people does.
>>42885218Moron, it's clearly god playing favorites. Are you jealous?
>>42885198>Man has spend most of his infancy killing, raping and stealing, therefor assuming he is evil is not insane, it is completely sane.Why are you comparing the most heinous of crimes to the average person?
>>42885221>The difference is that taking care of animals does not cause embarrassment or anguish, taking care of people does.Ok, so you're either autistic or a sociopath. Which one is it? Because you talk like an empty robot and have zero empathy.Animal rescue is one of the hardest, most soul-crushing things to do. Many people in rescues get attacked by other people (who call them scammers, liars, go out and poison or shoot at the animals and threaten the rescuers) all the time, work themselves to the bone, get into debt, have to witness so much suffering and pointless death. It's hard as fuck and most other humans either ignore your existence or get aggressive and attack you over it.
>>42885233>Why are you comparing the most heinous of crimes to the average person?You are not different from your ancestors, you just life in insane luxury.
>some rando raped my, God allowed him to continue>I tried to kill myself, God stopped meOMG God is so great, I kneel.
>>42885240That's a lot of assumptions about me as an individual..>live life in insane luxury;-; I'm homeless
>>42885235>Ok, so you're either autistic or a sociopathThat's your average religious guy, but you forget to mention a heightened sense of self righteousness.
>>42885240the amount of cope you guys have to come up with to excuse your god is insane. People are bad but God is good but if God is bad its because people deserve it but God also SAVES but doesn't want to help.
>>42885218>>42885225Nah. My father got saved by a supernatural incident and it couldn't have been "third angel phenomenon" because the brain doesn't know the future. A loud voice called his name which made him stop in his track and turn around, just in that moment a massive car was speeding around the corner and would have hit him.There's also documented cases of voices or things intervening by doctors which really happened that way and there is 0% explanation as to how this could have happened just from the brain:https://web.archive.org/web/20200617032530/https://www.researchgate.net/publication/232271307_A_difficult_case_Diagnosis_made_by_hallucinatory_voicesThe voice was also there when she took meds and AFTER the tumor was removed. The voice knew where the tumor was and also told her about the future and lead her through the city to the right doctor.
>>42885235Right, taking care of animals is like a job, like being a farmer, or miner, or fireman, it's a taxing job, you think you are good for doing a job and I am saying your not, Goodness is simply doing little acts of kindness every day to people, it is not being a farmer or a police officer.
>>42885255>the amount of cope you guys have to come up with to excuse your god is insane.Kek. We are also now entering the age of "religious scholars" btw, these people spend their entire lives reading scriptures, figuring out coping mechanism to excuse themselves and their cute little god.
>>42885252Yeah, you're right.>>42885259Taking care of animals in the ways of a rescue involves huge sacrifice and mental fortitude. Other humans will mistreat you, ignore you or attack you. You will go into debt and beg for money constantly to make enough to help the animals. It is WAY easier to listen and comfort some people with depression or occasionally feed homeless people than leading a full time animal rescue. Now obviously, you can argue that leading a full time rescue or charity for humans is even harder, I don't debate that, but it is so soulless and cold to pretend that animals are just "farm objects" and helping them isn't reducing evil in the world.
>>42885259>Goodness is simply doing little acts of kindness every day to people,Ah, so you are lazy and want the easy way. Because that is so easy - just a few tiny little acts of kindness here or here. Anon now feels accomplished and like he is a good person. Actually devoting your life and money to rescue (human or animal) is soul crushing and you could never do it with a mindset like this.
>>42885258>Nah. My father got saved by a supernatural incident and it couldn't have been "third angel phenomenonAYO? I have a similar story. My father was saved by aliens. He flew around the galaxy, then assassinated JFK and left.
>>42885273>Taking care of animals in the ways of a rescue involves huge sacrifice and mental fortitude. Other humans will mistreat you, ignore you or attack you. You will go into debt and beg for money constantly to make enough to help the animals. It is WAY easier to listen and comfort some people with depression or occasionally feed homeless people than leading a full time animal rescue.>Now obviously, you can argue that leading a full time rescue or charity for humans is even harder, I don't debate that, but it is so soulless and cold to pretend that animals are just "farm objects" and helping them isn't reducing evil in the world.Right a job, like what all our ancestors did for thousands of years, suffering, taking care of animals, scrounging pennies, that doesn't make you good, being kind and helpful to people every day does.You can't do this, do you work really hard at helping animals, like every farmer does.
>>42885281>go to the paranormal board>have a meltdown and mock people discussing the topicabsolute state of some people
>>42885278If that where easy, everyone would do it, but they do not. Almost everyone works, working is easy, you can continue claiming that working is good, but it is not, work is just work, we all do it.
If kindness is the religion than charity is the church.
>>42885283No, 99,9% of our ancestors took care of their farm animals that benefitted them. They did not go around in nature or the streets to help and rescue random animals that didn't benefit them at all.>>42885290Of course they do. Random acts of kindness happen every day, everywhere, non-stop. Someone offers an old lady a seat or carries her groceries, someone smiles at another person, someone checks in on a friend how they are doing, someone puts in some extra food into an order.
>>42885287What the fuck is your problem? The creator of the universe can intervene and save your father, but aliens saving my father is too far fetched?
>>42885297You know damn well... just leave people alone if you are that cynical that you just want to make fun of them.
>>42885258>My father got saved by a supernatural incident and it couldn't have been "third angel phenomenon" because the brain doesn't know the future.I agree, that's just what they call it. Sciences have a lot of convenient explanations, but they fall short when there are stories like yours and many others.
>>42885295>No, 99,9% of our ancestors took care of their farm animals that benefitted them. They did not go around in nature or the streets to help and rescue random animals that didn't benefit them at all.Do you? Do you save the bugs in the grass, the little amphibians? etc.. most animals that die aren't cute, big or notable, they are small, invisible, millions die every day and you make a choice to help a small selection of animals, because you want that to be your job, but work is not good.>Random acts of kindness happen every dayGood, continue doing random acts of kindness every day, several times a day, show genuine interest in other people and treat them like a human being and then you are good.
>>42885317>Do you? Do you save the bugs in the grass, the little amphibians? etc.. most animals that die aren't cute, big or notable, they are small, invisible, millions die every day and you make a choice to help a small selection of animals, because you want that to be your job, but work is not good.proof a malevolent or indifferent being made this shit
>>42885317I don't lead a rescue myself, I just support rescues and even with being only involved from the outside I know how hard it is and how it crushes you. Your "little acts of kindness" is the EASIEST thing ever and happens 24/7 everywhere. You could NEVER work in rescue or a real charity, because you are selfish and lazy. So it is ridiculous to hear you talk about how others don't do anything to reduce evil, when you don't put your sweat and heart into anything, you just pick the laziest and easiest way possible while judging others. Shame on you.
>>42885320>proof a malevolent or indifferent being made this shitGod is not good, he just is. Being good is your duty.
>>42885329God saves and blesses people all the time, so he is definitely capable to be good when he feels like it.
>>42885323>Your "little acts of kindness" is the EASIEST thing ever and happens 24/7 everywhere.Yet, you are literally unable to do so in this very conversation, insulting me several times.Again, your animal rescue is just a job, we al do jobs, working in a hospital is a job, and you safe people, jobs do not make you good, being good makes you good.
>>42885333Ok, and neither are you kind, reducing animals to "farm objects" and brushing off the real sweat and sacrifice of rescuers to work that isn't reducing evil. Now what? Are you the authority of kindness? >your animal rescue is just a jobHow is it a JOB if it doesn't benefit the person and they pay with their real jobs to finance the rescue so they don't "earn" any plus money and just lose money? Holy fucking shit lmao.
>>42885084Kingly.
>>42885101>pain and humiliation and darknessThe crucible of kings
>>42885336Animals do not concern themselves with what we think of them, animals do not lie awake at night because someone called them a farm animal, but human beings do and if you are unable to police yourself and talk to people in a humane and polite fashion then you can not call yourself good.Again, doing a job is easy, being kind is not.A job usually does not pay, the job of raising a child does not pay, yet parents do it, because it is their nature to do so.
>>42885346>Animals do not concern themselves with what we think of them, animals do not lie awake at night because someone called them a farm animal,This matters how? Animals feel pain and fear. Animals want to be safe and not die in a ditch with worms in their eyes and a starving belly. Your argument that animal doesn't lie awake at night because someone called them stupid somehow makes caring for them easier than smiling at a stranger? Logic not found.>doing a job is easy, being kind is notOkay, explain to me how spending 10 hours to care for animals on little sleep and no payment being stressed out and feeling hopeless is easier than buying a stranger a croissant and then moving on with your day.
>>42885346lmao this guy is insane
>>42885273You are a king.
>>42885300You're the jaded one. They are not making fun of you. Nta.
>>42885358He is mocking people ITT about how their supernatural experiences are just brain hallucinations basically.
>>42885351You pretend not to understand, I am not asking you to give a bum change, I am asking you to be a human being 24/7, that's it.What you choose to spend as your job is your choice, but being good does does not end after 10 hours.
>>42885359I don't think that's his position, assuming it is a man.
>>42885360Nah, you said "little acts of kindness" and that those are harder than leading an animal rescue full time.Now riddle me this, if you took 100000 random people and you gave them the option to:1) Do little acts of kindness every day. Offer an old lady your seat, listen to a friends woes for 20 minutes and give him heartfelt advice, buy a homeless person a $4 sandwich.2) Spend 3000$ on vet bills and food bills every month, spend every day and night being on call if you get a call for an animal, house 40 animals in your garden, clean their poop, care for all of them +6 hours a day while also working full time.Do you want to pretend 99% of people wouldn't pick option 1 because it is SOOOO much easier? What the fuck are you even talking about at this point. Just lying.
>>42885369They would choose option 1, because there are not consequences to lying, it's just an empty choice with no meaning.On the other hand if you gave them the choice, to do either one of these or the consequences would be death, they would choose 2. because we all work, but none of us want to be nice all the time, because all humans being are offended by other human beings.
>>42885380>They would choose option 1, because there are not consequences to lying, it's just an empty choice with no meaning.Wrong. They would choose option 1, because it is far easier and takes way less time and way less suffering to pull off.>On the other hand if you gave them the choice, to do either one of these or the consequences would be death, they would choose 2.Also wrong. With death as a punishment, even more people would pick option 1) because it is so much easier to pull off than sticking with 2) for the rest of your life and fighting an up hill battle.
>>42885396You do not seem to understand that option 1 is only option 1 if it has genuine consequences, it does not count if does not. Someone picking option one can not choose to be nice one day and not the other day, they would have to do so for the rest of their lives and that is impossible, while working a job is not, plenty of people do so, most notably parents with young children.
>>42885416That's now what you said. Small acts of kindness doesn't mean "I have to be nice to every single person all my life without fail" just like taking care of animals doesn't mean you have to be able to save every animal out there and always be able to pay every vet bill.
>>42885421>Small acts of kindness doesn't mean "I have to be nice to every single person all my life without fail"Right, but being good does.
>>42885426Don't backpaddle now. You said sacrificing your money, time and heart to care for animals in need is easy and doesn't reduce evil in the world unlike "small acts of kindness" towards people - even though it is objectively false, because most people if given the choice would rather do a few little acts of kindness daily than lead an animal rescue, because the former is way easier and takes much less of your time, money and suffering.
>>42885433>time, money, sufferingRight, that is incredible easy to spend, everyone does it constantly, being nice all the time is basically impossible.
>>42885438>that is incredible easy to spendNot easy to spend at all, hence why it is so rare.I mean if it's so easy are you willing are you willing to donate to a few rescues and volunteer? Let's see. I mean it is VEEERY easy, right? You shouldn't have an issue.
>>42885063How do you know she is not lying, dude? I advise anyone here to try an experiment. Just start lying to people. Lie about something big. Like God saved you from X situation. People will believe you. People are sheep. People will believe you if you appeal to what they believe. I'm serious. Serious, how do we know she is not lying? We should just trust her? But the bible says cursed is the man who puts his trust into another man, etc. Their own book states that no human being can be trusted, but here we are having to take the word of a WOMAN as truth? Give me a break. You guys are nuts. This is why our world sucks. Because some people realized how to manipulate other human beings using abstract ideas like God, religion, spirituality, and the dumb people just follow along. The rational people gets stuck in the middle. They either corrupt themselves and join the deception or they try to isolate themselves from all this madness. The liers and the sheep coexist happily. *Verification not required.
>>42885450Alright:>TimeWe waste most of it sleeping, working, on our children, going online.Almost nobody spends the day literally doing nothing.>MoneySame, we spend most of it on all kinds of luxuries we do not need.Almost nobody just saves their money on a bank.>SufferingWe all suffer from stress, a bad mood, some ailment all the time.Almost nobody experiences a state of bliss>Being niceWell, most people are completely focused on their own needs, ignore other people most of the time and are all round distant.So clearly being nice is the more difficult thing to do.
>>42885472Nah. You're confusing having time, money or experiencing suffering with choosing to sacrifice those things for others. People sleep, work and spend money because they need to or benefit from it. That does not mean volunteering hours, donating money, fostering animals and dealing with the emotional and physical demands of rescue work are easy.I mean by that logic, running a marathon is easy because people use their legs every day.Anyway, I'm gonna post some rescues or charities and you donate money to them now. Alright? You said it's very easy to give away resources so it shouldn't bother you in the slightest.
>>42885512Right, but clearly taking care of animals gives you a sense of purpose and a feeling of superiority, so you benefit from it, making it no different then someone spending money on an expensive car.
>>42885512>You said it's very easy to give away resources so it shouldn't bother you in the slightest.I won't spend any money on charity, neither will I act in a nice fashion with most people, because I am literally not good, but evil.
>>42885529>because I am literally not good, but evil.That explains why you lie about what being good is.>>42885521Same can be said about acts of kindness, giving the person a feeling of superiority and purpose as they brand themselves as "good" in their mind and better than others, who don't.
>>42885535I never lied, I am just being objective, you think that goodness is basically living the rat-race with animals, while I am saying that it is being a good person in a purely objective fashion, free of work.
>>42885542Evil deceives and lies. You admitted you are evil, case closed.
>>42885545Yes, that is true, I guess I must have been lying all this time.
>>42885551And by the way, I didn't say helping animals makes someone a good person. I said it reduces evil in the world if you help innocent, helpless beings and ease their pain. You said that it's not true.
>>42885555Wait, I am evil, so everything I said is a lie, therefor you can ignore everything I said and destroy your life giving your money, time and health to a stray dog.
>>42885560Oh wow, sarcasm and hyperbole instead of actually addressing the argument! Very cool, anon. Nobody said "destroy your life for a stray dog" in this whole thread. The point was simply that helping vulnerable beings and reducing their suffering is objectively a reduction of evil in the world, even if it's a tiny one.
>>42885566I am bored, have a nice evening.
>>42885063>Seems like God and the angels play favoritesThey absolutely do. 1000%. Some people have "it" some people don't. Woe to those who the spirits do not favor.
>>42885560you're pathetic
>>42885101Why is it difficult for people to understand that God is much more distant than zealots advertise
>>42885618Because he does help some people... ? So he can be very much be there if he wants to.
>>42885063>a hand pulled me backed, I was saved>only to die later anywayNah, god pulled you back because he wasn’t done torturing you yet lolYou don’t get an easy way out haha
>>42885101this reminds me of my mother, her case was tragic as she had a harsh childhood.yet when she was 10 or so, she died due to bad design in the bathroom by having the damn water heater inside the fucking bathroom...she choked on gas and was dead for 20 minutes or perhaps more since the cops arrived by then.she remembers begging to not be send back to earth after death, she was glad that the pain was over yet 2 strange motherfuckers stopped her despite her being dead already and told her she had to go back, she told no and stood her ground as a soul and was resolute...and thats when it happened, she was FORCED to return back to life despite being dead and I mean straight up brain dead too, hit her head and everything.whoever those 2 motherfuckers were they are dead since they forced a innocent girl to suffer a life of strife and pain, she developed issues from it and led a life of constant struggle even now.how curious she still has faith in god despite him and his angels breaking the rules to ensure she would return to a life of pain and misery, no childhood at all and working since little.many bad things in my life trace back to those motherfuckers, I will find them and annihilate their very existance across dimensions and timelines when I die since I know for a fact they were deliberate in their evil deed and breaking the rules.if god interferes then I will ensure that will act as proof that he will defend evil if it benefit him since everyone by then will know why I am coming after those 2.when we all die, I hope you witness me and even use the chance to break the rules yourselves so that for once in your existence you get something out of this world.
>>42885126Everything is divinely ordained.That's why I reject this reality and its pathetic cocksucking creator.
>>42885618I know God exists but I'm not going to be so confident as to test him with everything when it comes to my own personal safety
>>42886510>cries about me cryingTake your own advice
>>42885063What is God's intention for making me live miserable, but not developing suicide ideation?
>>42886257>and thats when it happened, she was FORCED to return back to lifeThis is so creepy... ugh. Really makes you wonder what the hell happens when you die.
https://libraryofrickandria.com/divine-intervention/
>>42887709Endure? Finally be not miserable?
>>42885063Why does god apparently help some random people, but watches doing nothing when toddlers get raped by pedos?
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