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Anyone done the Gateway Tapes?

I started a couple of days ago, im on tape 4 right now. I have had some weirdly vivid dreams last night and during the tapes I feel strange and sometimes hear random noise. Its pretty weird. But I am spooked because some people are saying bad stuff about it, stuff like feeling hands on them or a presence in the room and that shit sounds demonic so I dont know if I wanna continue. But it really does help get to that state between sleep and dreams really fucking easy, I dont know if its more easy than normal binural beats so I might try those but it definitely works for that.
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>>42896597

Yep. If you're on day 4 after a couple days you're probably doing it wrong though. You need to do each tape until you're 100% proficient in it before moving on to the next for it to work properly. It does work but it takes time and consistency. That was my experience and also the CIA's conclusion in their declassified reports on it, it works but takes too much time and training to be useful on a large scale. Think of it like working out you have to start at small weights before getting to bigger ones, and you're working out a muscle you haven't used before
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I still don't really know what focus 10 is supposed to feel like, these tapes just don't work for me.
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>>42896682
*tape 4
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>>42896683

It's a physical sensation in your brain. Kind of a pleasant calm fuzzy feeling but actually feeling it physically
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>>42896692
I've felt it and I wouldn't call it pleasant at all, it's like when a "sleeping" limb is "waking up."
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>>42896597
This shit blasted me out of my body on the first tape and I was having pretty strong visuals. I've not done another tape because it was pretty trippy.
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Avoid at all costs. That ping of fear and expansion that includes feeling being watched... all warning signs.

These threads get posted regularly for a purpose. Trust me, you dont want their attachments.
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>>42896692
Is that really it? To me I always thought it was supposed to be this feeling that all you can feel is kind of your own thoughts and your body is supposed to feel disconnected/asleep.
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>>42896724
I can get to focus 10 very easily, but I still can't do out of body, what am I doing wrong? Any tips?
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>>42896970
Relax and let go.
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>>42896682
>CIA's conclusion in their declassified reports on it, it works
Flat out fiction. They never said it works.
You either can’t read or you are just full of shit.
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>>42897152
https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/cia-rdp96-00788r001700210016-5.pdf

I'll admit that "it works but takes too long to train" might be a little over-eager in my description but I think it's pretty close to their conclusion.
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>>42897152
>>42897242
Whoops wrong screenshot
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I've done it but after the first weeks it kinda looks like my brain got used to it and I dont feel that sensible to the sounds anymore plus I dont feel like getting out my body anymore.

But today I was dreaming and in the dream started to question about being a dream, never did that before, suddenly I realize it was dream instantly felt like an electrical vibration in my neck or head and woke up
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>>42897242
>>42897246
So that is not proof the CIA said the tapes work.
That is one guy from the army. Just the one guy from the army. Not the CIA and it is not an agreed conclusion from many people. Just this one guy’s opinion one time in 1983.
He also did the full course which is the isolation chamber. Quite a bit removed from just the tapes.
His conclusion is vague. Throughout the entire doc he is careful not to commit to anything.
This was never a good document, it’s mainly the advertising material from the monroe institute that he just types up.
You didn’t even try to read it.



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