I challenge anyone to post undeniable and compelling evidence of any paranormal activity that is currently on the internet. You would think with the advent of cameras that there would be insurmountable evidence towards a paranormal event at this point. Anything I ever thought was paranormal event usually ended up having a rational explanation behind it. Usually doors slamming due to vacuums in houses with windows open, etc. Plz don't post top15s.
Let's look at the definition of the word "paranormal".The word paranormal describes experiences, events, or entities that cannot be explained by current scientific laws or conventional natural forces.So, because science is constantly evolving and not all natural forces are understood fully, it's actually certain that the paranormal exists.Unless you think 2026 is it and we can all stop doing science now because it's finished and we have 100% understand of the natural world. Very short sighted, but it is your brain, you can do whatever you want with it.
>>42902375Anything that was once paranormal gets understood and compiled into scientific knowledge.Consider electromagnetism, which in all but the most recent era was considered some mystical property. The Aurora Borealis is a great example of this. Ostensibly it’s the spirits of the earth and the sun interacting with each other to product this effect, but we call it “electromagnetic fields” around the planets rather than souls.Same for Chemistry which used to be known as Alchemy. Through nuclear processes we could transform iron into gold today. But now it’s scientific and considered normal instead of humanity accepting that we now hold the philosophers stone.Medical science can now revive people from recent deaths and many people have reported spiritual near death experiences afterward. These people are literal spiritual explorers, visiting the afterlife state and returning, but we choose not to believe what they tell us.
I could probably get a dashcam to record when the poltergeist in my house locks the front door on me when I step out. It happens every goddamn time. You would literally see the deadbolt handle turn without a hand on it, but I just don't care about proving it to anyone really. What would that accomplish.
>>42902410>>42902425NDE's definitely seem like a good evidence for afterlife existence, especially since most people tend to report similar experiences. But I'm more curious about irrefutably documented/captured paranormal experiences that exist within our consciously observable physical world that without a doubt are accepted to have really happened. We're talking about observed evidence that points towards non-physical entities or parallel universes interacting with our reality in such a way that people have observed or interacted with. Well thought out replies though, appreciate it.>>42902481I'd be more interested in further details. Like I mentioned, my only remotely possible paranormal experience was a bedroom door that would just absolutely go from being still to slamming extremely hard randomly at night when I'd be in bed with my gf at the time. The house was part of a series of old condos from the 40's that had a history that would lean towards being haunted since it likely housed wounded soldiers before being repurposed. Still, there was plausible deniability to that because the entire house had windows that weren't sealed, that you could open like blinds, meaning the wind outside could created drafts/vacuums that would cause the door to slam. Still though.. it always happened when there wasn't really any huge gusts of wind outside.
>>42902410You're being intellectually dishonest because words change meaning depending upon context, and OP is clearly talking about things like ghosts, demons, spirits, cryptids, magic, occult phenomena, supernatural entities, alien abductions, poltergeists, etc., all of which certain people claim to exist, yet have no actual evidence to support those claims. Your reply shows the exact problem and why people foolishly fall for these delusions, because certain people lack the ability to use critical thought.
>>42902375https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7AcKgxauMI
>>42902637Anon, no offense, but this video just oozes of fake. This is a studio production video that was made for entertainment purposes. Thanks for posting though.
>>42902694Its not fake, look up Scole experiments
>>42902696It's definitely interesting. Has anyone tried to replicate this with success? I'm not sold that it's factual after reading up on it. But you never know.
>>42902375What are acceptable evidence?They don't appear to have figured out how and what electromagnetic waves or forces to test or have the equipment. You're going to explain away, assume it's fake or don't believe witness testimony any so what's the point? You're not going to believe it until you experience something and you'll probably try to rationalize it anyway like most people do.
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>>42902782My point is, that these kinds of things(reported paranormal activity) always turn out to be fake. Usually discovered by the witness admitting what they presented was fake. It's hard to believe that with the level of audio and video coverage we have that there isn't an overwhelming amount of irrefutable evidence to support the overwhelming number of claims (that have not presented any irrefutable evidence that I'm aware of).Acceptable evidence in this case would be something that all of us here could come to a consensus that what is presented is likely the real deal. Maybe it's something that one of us could replicate and verify.
>>42902546>I'd be more interested in further details.I've told my story a few times. Search the archive for 'poltergeist', 'troll doll' and 'tv'.Why I probably won't bother trying to record the door locking? It's just like...whatever. I'm at the age where proving myself to people doesn't interest me and I probably couldn't trick our poltergeist anyway. It's always watching/listening to me, understands fucking english and probably just read this post and would break the dashcam. *shrug*I really do need to cleanse and ward this house but my skills aren't that good yet. So far my threats of calling a goetia demon have been enough to discourage any serious trouble.
>>42902375What kind of ass cancer do you suffer that you cannot invest 20 of your neetbux in a book of sorcery to follow carefully a training regime and then follow the Instruction manual on how to dew it? I know it's very tempting to think "people are retarded, I'll sway them any direction I see fit with the power of my trained lips" the problem is, listening to retards is, by definition, retarded, and only retards will, the rest of us will point out how ez it isvto see if this shit is real. >No butBefore you proceed any futher thinking yourself smart and wise. I'm measured 147IQ@15 years old, I'm 45 today, those digits got better. This gigabrain will promotly instruct me to ignore your pesky trolling attempts, and probably season it with filthy comments of venereonecrosexual persuasion.
>>42902820I'll check those out. You don't have to prove yourself to us, but many here would 100% be interested in at least an effort to capture it or something happening and post a webm.
>>42902816What footage, do you have any idea how paranormal research and detection is done? Because you can go cheapass with a free app and get an educated idea.
>>42902851Here, I'll show you how it is advertised and why it is a half scam. (Pic) This is the usual suspect, efm gadget that WOULD detect Spirits. They're advertised as such in many cases. The problem is, they CAN see spirits, provided the spirits for some reason are generating an electromagnetic field. But spirits CAN hide the signature, so ss a result, it's not a realizable tool. This is also the n°1 advertised tool
>>42902870Forgot my pic. 2nd, the field recorder/mobile wav recorder app. It doesnt work if they don't talk, end.
>>42902871Apps like Ghosttube. This is hilarious. You can get all sorts of trolling (on the receiving end) from these apps, since spirits can either show you onscreen shit that isn't fucking real™ or hide whats real. And it goes on with all of the paranormal research arsenal. So your call.
>>42902375elsagate is very unnerving because its difficult for me to imagine that humans are responsible for that content, especially considering how many different iterations there are of it and how popular it is. it just doesnt feel human whatsoever. i understand its probably some kind of scheme by corporations and/or third worlders but that doesnt necessarily make it less paranormal to me. in a similar vein, people seem generally oblivious to just how bad goyslop is. again it makes perfect sense because everyone is born and raised in slavery, but at least an acknowledgement would be expected. instead people actively endorse things that are bad for them. its very peculiar in a paranormal sense, almost like youre surrounded by hordes of black orcs who wallow in their own wretchedness. when talking to a lot of people online, it barely feels like they are even sentient. again none of this is necessarily paranormal but it just seems somewhat spooky. i think the internet is becoming more and more of a heaping ground for lesser souls or damned beings. in real life its less dehumanizing so it still feels normal even if someone is excessively different, like a funny dressed arab for example. they still seem human at least. but on the internet its more paranormal i'd say.
>>42902375Somebody's got a bad case of the Monday's!
>>42902851I've seen videos of spirit box usage and done research on what people use (really anything that can record, even your phone). I honestly believe a lot of things people think are paranormal experiences are their minds grasping at straws to try and rationalize chaotic stimulus (either visual or audio).I'll give another example of something that I've experienced that could've been a paranormal experience but probably wasn't. I was helping clean out a house on a property that had been abandoned for a while that a friend had gotten through a county auction. I never really asked what happened there, was just helping clean it out. The entire place had been overgrown with vegetation on the outside and had been abandoned for who knows how long, but still had all the stuff in it. It was the typical kind of creepy you'd expect, but we found an old photo album in it that was absolutely insane. Pictures of parties setup and what looked like huge get-togethers, but there was only ever like 1 or 2 people in what seemed like it should've been pictures of groups of people. Some of the faces in pictures looked like there were artifacts or mold growing, blocking out faces in several of the pictures. There were pictures of empty picnics, and all kinds of weird settings that looked like there should've been a crowd, but there was no one, or one or two people, always adults. We always joked about how it seemed like maybe the people had disappeared from the photos.Still, as strange as the photos were, I think they were just old and deteriorating and the people that took them were just weird. My bud ended up renovating and fixing up the property to resell.
>>42902886Do, follow my advice if you're srs: >>42902837Buy a sorcery book. Follow a training regime. Do the magick. Call the spirits. (Like with the incarnate people, some are memorable personas, others, total cunts).
>>42902888I lol'd but don't let that go to your tripcode ego
>>42902792This seems to be hotly debated footage. As far as I can tell, it was only one person who saw and recorded this.
>>42902375Okay, first of all i dont owe you shit at all>Anything I ever thought was paranormal event usually ended up having a rational explanationSee? Here's the core of the issue, youre not looking for proof, at least that would not be a sincere statement coming from you, you are looking to debunk something, you are looking for something to disproveAny sort of evidence will be treated as fake or staged or manipulated, atheists seem too low IQ to realize that they already made a decision about this and that decision is simply not believing and that includes treating actual evidence as fake no matter whatThats your belief, its literally a belief and you will make an endless list of excuses for anything that defies your belief, How is anyone posting here anything going to change your mindset at allEven if someone posted something extraordinary you will say something like>I dont believe that shit until it happens to me in real lifeThats all, now, heres something for you to considerHaving actual proof of the paranormal would leave your life in the same exact point or at least the change is overestimated, why is that? You are a mere human, the amount of questions that will arise are endless and you wont have the ability to answer that, lets put an exampleIf you see an object moving out of nowhere you will now began to question what moved it, eventually you will start thinking that all of those questions will only be answered when you die
>>42902892>Promoting his own amazon books with no reviewskeked and based
>>42902918I don't oeddle goods, if I recc a book, I've liked the author for a reason, and it's generally that it's not a milquetoast 4chan family fun recc
>>42902901You couldn't be more wrong. But are you saying you don't have any evidence? I'm looking for strong evidence.
>>42902375if paranormal was real they wouldnt be able to hide it for so long
>>42902939Yeah, I unfortunately agree. That we are here, experiencing any of this, interacting with one another in a reality that is absolutely absurd if you stop to think about it is already completely insane in and of itself. Paranormal shit doesn't seem so crazy, all things considered. I just think our reality has extremely rigid laws and physics, like an extremely thoroughly designed experience, that maybe paranormal events are so rare (like extremely rare bugs in code) that when one comes along, it's indistinguishable from all the noise of schizos and con artists.Yet, maybe there's something out there compelling enough to be able to investigate and get positive results.
>>42902375Arent you that guy who parks in this hellholes park, to come watch me? You're a very little pesky man, why, I member you trying to approach me, are you aware you almost got multiple knife wounds that night? We need to have this talk you wanna talk, you, me, my knife and whatever gun you use, Glock if I spied right...
>>42902952Schizo babble, fren. Feel free to post some paranormal evidence though. Hope you find a warm meal and a safe bed tonight as well.
>>42902958You think yourself safe, I wager.
>>42902968Sir, this is a paranormal evidence thread on a mongolian fly fishing forum. Please stay on topic.
>>42902936I'm saying that it doesnt matter how strong the evidence is, you will use your materialistic understanding to explain it>someone post a video of an object moving out of nowhereYour reaction>It was the air>it was a sudden burst of electricity>it was anything but paranormalYour problem is not the evidence, your problem is not realizing that no evidence will ever be strong enough for you or the rest of atheistsTheres a bunch of mysteries around the planet that have no rational explanation to this day, such as miracle cures, take that for example, atheists simply sort it out as placebo effectI dont feel like spoon feeding someone like you, you can use Google to look out for specific cases or just have the slightest common sense to question if all the religions in the world truly were based on non-sense and hallucinations
>>42902939Youre not considering that an all powerful being is hiding all of that because is testing you
>>42902978Wouldnt my true worth be seen when i interact with all possibilities? Sounds like a flawed being is in control.
>>42902976I'm not an atheist by any means. I've witnessed compelling evidence myself IRL, but it always felt like there was a rational explanation even if I didn't want there to be. Between there being more humans than ever and more recording devices running 24/7, surely there is some kind of common phenomena or something extremely unique with multiple unrelated witnesses.
>>42902375I used to have a cat once that communicated with me metaphysically to open a door or window for him to come through and sleep in his designated spot. Those feelings were very strong and he only gave me those feelings when he was near and wanted inside. No other cat that I owned/lived with has given me as powerful feelings that were accurate and specific like his, if at all.No, it wasn't my consciousness reminding me to let my cat inside at a specific hour, the time on the clock was always significantly different and rarely it was at the exact same time. I'd get this feeling out of nowhere while either being on my computer, eating, shitting/pissing, laying in my bed or doing whatever other activity and my cat was always there when I'd get these feelings, so I really doubt that it was something else beyond him telling me to let him inside.When he felt sick I'd also have a strong feeling from him, at which point I'd check him out and see what I could do.I miss him, he was my fluffy boy, too bad some fox killed him; it was 4:50-5:10AM with the sky being slightly lit up and I barely had 3hrs of sleep when I let him outside and gave him food, when I had a feeling that a fox might kill him, but I brushed it off since he has killed several rodents, birds and fended off on his own against dogs before, though he was pretty hurt from past fights so that might've been bad for him. After 3 days or so I found a decapitate black chicken/cock in the middle of my yard, near a path he'd usually take. I should've listened and leave the door open for him to sneak inside after he ate his food, but I really didn't expect that he'd just die. He's MIA for over 1 year and I really think he's dead.When I am about to do stupid shit I get a similar feeling that foreshadows what is about to come and I tend to not listen and "take control", resulting in a fiery mess that harms me, especially financially.
>>42902375Either paranormal is real and they currently rule the world or the concept of paranormal is allowed to exist still because it legitimizes the bible or some other future agenda
>>42902998I hope he comes back bro. Maybe he just met a nice female cat and ran off to have a cat family.
>>42903047Have you ever witnessed something inexplainable? You're here posting, so I have to assume you either have or are interested in the subject.
>>42903059No i havent seen anything inexplainable and any so called proof of paranormal is just trust me bro without any way to reproduce the phenomena or one time encounters
>>42902560Ball lightning was thought to be paranormal bullshit until recently
>>42902375>undeniable and compelling evidenceImpossible.I could show you a 4k video of a ghost, witnessed by 100 people, and you wouldn't believe it unless you saw it with your own eyes. That's smart. Keep doing that. Remain skeptical. Believe NOTHING. That's what religious nuts do.
>>42903055Severely doubt that. There are dogs and foxes all around and he might've had a really bad encounter. He had very many close calls before, almost getting ripped apart by neighbor's dogs when he was younger or when a random patrol of strays almost got him right in front of my eyes. He was pretty hurt too and I was planning on getting him to the vet since my treatment didn't seem to work that well (a lot of puss, very tender and pretty out of it, though I tried to clean and tend to his wounds as good as I could, but I wasn't good enough, nor did I have anything to alleviate his pain as he was wailing when I was trying to put dressing on his wounds that got mostly fixed up to the date he died).I have a similar looking cat to him that is slightly different (less fluff and the brown parts cover more of his body rather than the original's fur coloring scheme) and rather meek, but still retains some strong similarities. This cat remind me of him a lot, but I cannot really feel any signals from him, so I mostly have to go by myself to search and rescue him whenever I get reminded that it's late and that he's still outside, or just wait for him to eventually climb through an open window I leave in a less populated part of the house for him. He is also way less adventurous and much slower, but he's still a good boy, like the previous good boys I had.I blame it all on this system that forces everyone to wake up at 7am to go to work at 8am and until 6pm. They don't give us night owls any breaks.
>>42903112show the class what you personally believe to be paranormal
>>42903109Or they used science to trivialize the paranormal. Like we can do things considered magic even 100 years ago now but people now have a different image of magic from media exposure.
>>42903132F for ESP Cat. Sounds like he had an exciting life that indoor cats can only dream of.
>>42903112OP here, I would like you to post the video for us to discuss and make our own judgements. I'm afraid you are talking in a hypothetical though.
>>42903169i have no video. nor would i be convinced by one. i only have personal experiences, which are completely subjective obviously.
>>42903207>I cannot reproduce or show you anything just trust me and buy my book bro
>>42903207There's gotta be something out there. That's why I started this thread.
>>42902560You mentioned cryptids so don't change or try to backtrack when I hit you with the fact giant squids were a classical cryptic for centuries and now are accepted reality and science just pretends they never outright denied even.
>>42903160Yes, indeed he had. He had so much pussy he contracted an STI as well lol. I don't think I'll ever have a cat like him, we was out of the norm in a lot of aspects. He was born fluffy to parents that weren't even close to that level of fur lenght, he hunted rats, mice, birds and other pests every day, frequently catching two or more in an 8hr window, he was very nice to me too.Thinking about it, every cat I owned represented a part of my life, although asynchronously to the current etape I was in. This fluffer represented that specific part in my childhood that was fully of joy and energy, even though it was only for a short while, but it will never be forgotten for being the massive local peak of my life, or even the global peak if something might happen to me, God forbid.
>>42902560>>42903238Don't want you guys to fight, I agree there is probably a valid explanation to any paranormal activities if they are real. Gotta remember the majority of people believe in religion which is inherently paranormal.Let's try to find some evidence together bros. Skeptics and believers are both welcome here in this thread so we can try and present what we've found and discuss it.
>>42903220no, dont trust me. trust no one. >>42903112>>42903229ive seen half a dozen ghosts and a ufo. the ufo could have been a chinese lantern. the ghosts could have been hallucinations. i cannot prove to you that which i cannot prove to myself. i can only tell you about the experience and let you decide what happened. you'll experience something yourself one day. i think most people do. at which point you'll have to decide whether it was real or not.
>>42903254I showed you evidence and the second poster explained why its futile unless you admit and understand the context you are working underThere are things that were paranormal yesterday and and today are not and the mechanism for this is the same institutional foundation for how you are defining proof or evidence with a scientific method.It's a trick question what your asking even if you arent doing it on purpose. The failure of our understanding of the concept itself is if you can proov anything it becomes not paranormal and you accept it as never having been as evidence with cryptids like the giant squid I asserted.
>>42903266Prove*
>>42903256I've experienced seeing an object straight up disappear, with one other witness. We both looked at each other when it happened like "uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh????!!??!11?" and then spent at least 20 minutes looking for it So I'm not discounting anything you guys say, just taking it with a grain of salt. I'm not convinced there isn't video evidence of some straight up weird shit.
To prove it, you would need to livestream 24/7 with a Google Streetview-Backpack on.Why are debunkers so cringe?>there's cameras nowYet you could not even catch most thieves, but somehow you wanna catch the yeti on 4k
>>42903278This thread is specifically about posting compelling or irrefutable evidence. Don't tell me you believe that paranormal shit is possible, but also believe that it's not possible to record it.
>>42903093You wouldn't really want to see it.You'd just lose your mind, call it Special Effects or AI.The people in the know, know that most people are not lying.Strange stuff happens all the time.There isn't much besides trust me bro, but maybe one day you'll see some crazy shit and remember my post.
>>42903276>just taking it with a grain of saltplease keep doing that. i see so many fucking flat-earthers and mandela-effecters that i started to think rational thinking was a thing of the past. /x/ is 99% bullshit and people that think they're actually jesus. never go full conspiritard
>>42903290I'm not saying it's impossible.We have stories, that's a form of recording what happened.People talk openly about doing magic. A statement is a form of proof in court, why isn't it to you?I'm just saying, most people just flee when they see something scary, they won't get their phone to record it to go viral.
>>42903293>call it Special Effects or AIPost a video or image you believe is paranormal
>>42903290>but also believe that it's not possible to record itMaybe they are only visible when they want to interact with you and devices being inanimate cant pick up on the intent
for me, the best ufo evidence is thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVK71MxESSQbut, it could be fucking ANYTHING
>>42903311Do your own research. Or keep asking for the ayy picture.
>>42903341You talk as though you have seen convincing stuff but when asked to share become defensive instead of sharing...hmm
>>42903341>Or keep asking for the ayy picture.it was debunked the day after it was posted, newfag
Its over paranormal bros...
>>42902993Thats like saying, hey give me all the correct answers of the test so I can approve it and act like If we dont let you cheat it we are sabotaging your chances
>>42903295I'm a gate kid, critical thinking is one of the main things they taught in those classes. Just trying to entertain the possibility that someone is sitting on some grade a compelling evidence. This would be an interesting problem to solve. I really want people to post sincere evidence
>>42903427if someone could prove the paranormal they'd be the most famous person in the world. that's what makes me laugh about those "spirit boxes" you can buy. if those things worked the makers would be the richest people on the planet.
>>42902996You are being quite dense, you just have to look for the endless amount of places in the Internet where paranormal activity is reported, even if 99% of said content is fake 1% makes it worthy
>>42903451So you know nothing but believe still
>>42903436Yeah, I mentioned earlier in the thread that it seems like people really stretch their imagination to try and make sense of chaotic information. I was specifically thinking about the videos of people using spirit boxes and overlaying text on the video when something just happens to sound like a couple of words that relate to what they are asking to alleged spirits. I think there is a lot of senseless noise that drowns out any real possible evidence. There are likely vids on YT right now that have have legit evidence on them. I'm sure someone here knows something, they just haven't seen the thread yet or are intentionally remaining quiet.
>>42903276I don't usually post on /x/ anymore and only like reading, but this is what happened to me ages ago.I've experienced "paranormal" events in the middle of nowhere (grew up in rural areas, moved from place to place, mostly middle of nowhere) and most of those can be easily explained away by the mind imagining stuff where there isn't any, sick dreams/hallucinations, weird sounds in woods, or simply believing stuff family members told me. So they're spooky but I would never use those as evidence for anything.However, when visiting a cousin in the city which I always visited, back when I was 13 or so, I watched something fall out of my hand, into a cardboard box directly in front of me, heard it hit the bottom of the cardboard, my cousin saw and heard it, and so did his mom. We looked in the box and it was completely empty. We lifted the box and it was not under it, or around it. His mom got a broom and swept the entire room and it never appeared. Weird, but neither of us thought about it past that other than a "meh it'll show up eventually" comment, which it never did.Regarding things not being caught on tape, the moon you see with your eyes is not the moon a phone camera captures, and there are plenty of things that you can't transmit through footage with the technology that we have now. So maybe that's it. A lot of the old SCARY VIDEOS are just normal things in bad resolution, where the mind automatically fills in the blanks. Now with everything in 4KHD it's clear that it's not paranormal, but a 4KHD video won't let you feel temperature, smell, or taste. If we are to assume paranormal sightings/feelings are another sense, then it would make sense (pun not intended) it wouldn't show up on the highest resolution camera we have currently.
>>42902375The bible the most widely accepted paranormal thing can be edited by unimporant people like you are me. Paranormal is not real.
Anything a single person puts forward can be taken as fake by others (Even if there might be truth to it), especially now when digital modification of imagery is really easy to doI've had experiences seeing apparitions and sometimes spirit boxes actually have delivered uncanny messagesTo give an idea of what those experiences may be like I'll put forth some videos:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28csqKihaPohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qldYR3z_htsBut such stories can be dismissed by non believers and skepticsHowever, there are UFO cases where lots of people saw something out of the ordinaryhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westall_UFOhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varginha_UFO_incidenthttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voronezh_UFO_incidentIn India, some supposed gurus can apparently make many people in the same area see hallucinations, but even then that trick has to be considered paranormal in itself, when a group sees something like a rope floating in the air and the camera captures something different, its pretty odd isn't it?
>>42903238That isn't the same. The myth of giant squids were myths about monsters like Kraken that supposedly grabbed sailors or sunk ships. The ones found in reality are not monstrous, and they're large in terms of length, but not in terms of overall size, mass or apparent strength.
>>42902560Can you even wrap your mind around the idea that every single "lack of evidence" claim is just a byproduct of a world governed by a shadow cabal of 13 families and secret societies. A literal control matrix built to keep human knowledge tightly capped? Seriously OP must be a newfag here (if not a glownigger straight up)
>>42903647The same secret societies that somehow can't stop you from posting on an online image board? Or do they have your family hostage, is that why you can't post the evidence?
>>42903364I think it's the veil.If it was on YouTube then everyone would believe But since there is no evidence it's only for certain peopleAnd you're not one of them sorry bud
>>42902936Okay posts like these def glow
>>42903674You’re clearly new around here, so let me drop some actual knowledge on you. To get what’s really going on, you need a basic foundation in the esoteric, otherwise, you won't get why that question sounds so childish. Once you look into it, you'll see how these families and cabals (who are heavily heavily heavily invested in the occult) maintain their grip on this matrix, why their secrets are sitting right there in a Google search without them bothering to hide themBut first I want you to talk about all your paranormal experiences, with great details please. I am interested
>>42903726>>42903678Why dont you just admit you dont know anything lmao. I didnt ask you to say you have not and never will never see anything lmao.
>>42903684Nah, I'm unaffiliated. Just curious.
>>42903726Gonna be honest, if you aren't here to post or discuss evidence, then stop muddying the waters. I don't care about orgs hiding shit, I care about hard irrefutable evidence. Nothing more, nothing less.I agree with >>42903792
>>42903500It's an uncommon phenomena called "Disappearing Object Phenomena". There are enough people that have experienced it that it's probably a real thing. I've seen it though, so I believe you.What was the material that you lost in the box? For me, it was a cellophane covered package in a trash can that had a hole cut in the lid. The object never made it into the trash can, it hit the inside of the hole cut, and it just blinked out of existence. The only thing I can think of, is that something happened at an atomic level that either yeeted that shit instantaneously off into some other realm, or that the trash can absorbed the object at an atomic level like water beads into a larger body of water at a micro scale. We couldn't find what I threw in at all. Not even anything that looked like it.
>>42903792>>42903822So why don't you reveal your cards and talk about your own paranormal experiences? I'm genuinely interested, but look at you...you suddenly got super defensive and smug. Why is that?Like, right now, in green text format or whatever, just write down all the paranormal experiences you were talking about earlier in the thread. What actually happened here >>42902996
>>42903871I'm not 42903792, I'm 42903822 and 42902996 (spam filter fucking me)I'm also OP, and I did:>>42902546>>42902891>>42903276I urge you to either share something you actually witnessed or share some other compelling evidence. Currently reviewing >>42903612
>>42903822>I don't care about orgs hiding shitSee that's the thing, controlling what people know and how they think allows them to control how society shapes its reality. They steer people away from exploring deeper knowledge by distracting them or keeping them unaware of important truths. You're being disingenuous. Extremely so, especially when you claim that these reported paranormal activities always turn out to be fake. How do you know that? Well, of course you don't. That would require you to have thoroughly examined hundreds, if not thousands, of these well documented cases which you obviously havent done.You just pulled a belief out of your ass and presented it as a fact. That's intellectually lazy and arrogant.The proof, the proof, the proof, youre asking? It's everywhere. It's overflowing into what's going on in the world. But you don't really utilize it to the extent that you'd be able to pick all of this out and put the pieces together. You're an NPC. I'm sorry to say that.UGH, BUT LE HOLY SCIENCERINO SAYS THERE'S NOOOO PROOOOFWell, we all know soience is about producing a document that makes a predetermined conclusion look like science. Then the media covers it as fact and the public accepts it bc it came from "experts" with funding and credentials, with years of experience and research behind it. So I would say the real reason youre saying you dont care about how (((they))) are keeping us from the truth is because youre AFRAID. Afraid that I will shake your fundamental belief systems. And fear is the force which influences us to become closed to truth and the force which ultimately shuts down our awareness
>>42903987Soooo.. you don't have any compelling evidence? Others have posted videos that could be possible evidence, but you're just talking about anything other than evidence. There are over 8 billion people in the world. There's no way paranormal evidence could be hidden if there was anything compelling.
>>42903929I have personally experienced what we would call a haunting. Me and my family members have seen objects moving on their own, as well as shadow people out of the corners of our eyes.My older sister, who used to be a skeptic up until a certain point, once saw a crystal vase seemingly catapult itself into the wall and shatter into pieces.Years later, I'm an adult with kids of my own. One night I woke up to take a leak, and the door to our bedroom is made of glass on the upper half. You can see through it, but the glass distorts your vision even if you put your face directly against it.And as I'm walking towards the door, I saw a short girl with shoulder length hair, with her hands pressed against the glass part of the door. My immediate thought was that it was either my kid or one of her friends "spying" on us (sleepover) in the middle of the night.I opened the door, and I clearly saw this a little bit of a transparent, misty looking figure of a woman with shoulder length hair. Not even two seconds later, it just "evaporated" into the wall as if it were made out of some kind of fog.And the funny thing is, ever since then I've seen at least a dozen videos online that were captured on camera showing something very similar. Like this: https://youtu.be/56y7RMNOHbg?t=768 Exactly like that. The texture of the woman. And I have a dozen videos I love and I'm 99.9% sure they captured a paranormal phenomenon. But that's the thing, the paranormalis not wowoo. Not magic. U can perfectly explain these things away. Like usually these aren't spirits but more of a pattern of consciousness that has become associated with a particular location, event or object or emotional state bc of an extremely intense event like fear, grief, violence, trauma, or just emotional attachment.Of course there are spirits, like spoiler YOU YOURSELF ARE A SPIRIT BEING. Just like me and everybody else. Or as for example Tom Campbell refers to it, an individuated piece of consciousness.
>>42904012>There's no way paranormal evidence could be hidden if there was anything compelling.If paranormal events are conscious or have agency, they can decide to only occur when it's guaranteed that nobody will record evidence of it.
>>42903987>>42904012Some scientists have studied phenomena which be considered as paranormalDean Radin is one of them:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7jsJrvleaoThere's a huge bunch of videos on youtube of paranormal things, but most paranormal things are difficult to prove, even if you see a video it might be fake, so in today's world you have to just be open to the unusual and perhaps you'll have your own experience in real lifeHere's a lemon anomaly: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzpOrLgmSt8
>>42904111chekt, but you're also assuming that if there was agency, that that agency is infallible. Surely if there is some level of intelligence behind it, then there is a possibility of mistakes being made, and thus something happening that could be observed and recorded serving as strong evidence. Based on my experiences, I lean more towards the possiblity that there are things that are unexplainable beyond our understanding and that is an objective fact based on what I've seen in the presence of others.
>>42903612Interesting content. I do think that spiritboxes have a synchronicity component that probably create some extraordinary coincidences that seem too coincidental to be fake. They are definitely an interesting piece of tech.
>>42904111>If paranormal events are conscious or have agency, they can decide to only occur when it's guaranteed that nobody will record evidence of it.Exactly so. Cryptids, aliens, poltergeists, ghosts, apparitions are fundamentally individual creations of ALL THAT IS/SOURCE, just like you and I. And as I have told you above, you ARE A "SOUL BEING" YOURSELF TOO. Consciousness is fundamental. And of course they are recorded. Of bloody course they are: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7vCBxOziTQThere's just soo sooo sooo many "evidence" but youre SO SO SO consciously UNaware you keep moving your definition what you consider a proof.Of course you grew up within this system and you know, the ultimate sin within western intellectual culture is to say anything extraphysical or spiritual or religious has any empirical concrete impact on our normal tactile world.You can talk about religion in terms of myth and meaning or theology, but the minute you cross the bridge and start suggesting that anything extra physical, lets say precognition has some actual impact on our world, regardless of how stringently the evidence is gathered, vetted and analyzed and replicated, you are CAST OUT.Now that is the one unforgivable sinhttps://studylib.net/doc/15480721/meta-analysis.sbb-dir.rdn.doc?utm_sourceHeres pyschokinesis from Dean Radin, the chief scientist at the Institute of Noetic Sciences. And his evidence is so strong. In fact its proven beyond doubt that these findings are not chance hits or accidents. These are hardcore numbers. Metaanalysis that seeks to mitigate against accident or happenstance. Will you actually bother doing your homework and digging into these? For some reason I doubt it.
>>42904141We have much much much much to learn. But it's okay, that's why we keep incarnating here
>>42903647>There’s no evidence because the cabal hides everything.>>42903726>The cabal doesn’t hide anything, their secrets are on Google.oh okay, so the ultra-powerful shadow cabal that controls all of human knowledge, that run the entire planet, manipulate reality and suppress any shed of evidence, also just casually leaves their deepest secrets lying around on Google like a boomer that doesn't know how to delete their browser history, meanwhile they're omnipotent enough to casually hide all paranormal evidence from humanity 24/7, but somehow not competent enough to stop you from posting about them on an online image board. Incredible, you've clearly cracked the worlds deepest secrets, all thanks to your self‑sealing conspiracy logic. I mean it's flawless. Lack of evidence = proof, any evidence against = fake.
>>42902375Posting a video was never enough 20 years ago, imagine now with AI. Do you really want proof of the paranormal or are you just curious and bored? Because if you really want it and you’re open to do something for it beyond sitting in front of a screen, i can tell you how to produce paranormal effects.And no it isn’t a larp, you can easily produce paranormal effects if you’re familiar with the fundamentals of syncretic metaphysics, the ones that form patterned trends and parallels in traditions around the world. I personally use daoism as a linchpin for it. Control is a completely different story, but if all you want is observation and experience, it can be easily arranged.
the best evidence are deathbed stories. tons of people if not everyone, on the brink of death sees demons, flames, have burning sensation of feet. Nurses say they often smell sulfur when the (non-christian) patient died. When Christian dies there is smell of perfumes, flowers.
>>42902375The Women in White, a faction of NHI that have influenced human belief systems across the world for thousands of years. They appear as women in white clothing, transform into or associate with bovine animals, give religious prophecy and control UFOs. They have a four-coloured flag that has appeared in almost every belief system.https://youtu.be/JkUrVh8knj8 https://youtu.be/LMv1k49sAM0 https://youtu.be/VlRqTgobV3o https://youtu.be/1Jvr4O7pG9I
>>42903619No faggot the myths are exaggerations that came later you are doing the thing where someone probably told stories of ball electricity and it was depicted as some intelligently controlled ethereal mass and yet it turns out to be a fleeting perfectly natural phenomenon but still the same concept o how gorrillaz where described and exaggerated by natives to be humongous teriffying demons with glowing eyes. If they discovered ghosts were actually not the souls of the dead but higher dimensional phenomena you would be sitting here saying that's not actually the same so its not paranormal.The op and science fucked up by linking cryptids to the paranormal and now you have to sit and eat it faggot your bluff got calledA giant squid is so much longer than any other known squid it is and was a unbelievable cryptid there is no scientist in pre discovery history tha would or did suggest a squid the size of the giant squids was feasible you are doing the exact thing I fucking explained where once something is known you back track and try to play fucking stupid as if it was not considered at the cutting known size to be an impossible retarded concept and a cryptid.Lmfao you are all duplicitous faggots
>>42905174Thanks for defending the thread, bro. People like >>42903647 have a 85% chance of being some homeless bum with a phone that is actually mentally insane, but since we are all anonymous to each other, there's a tendency to forget about insane bums.
>>42905189Just by nature of being in this thread, I can guarantee that all of us are overwhelmingly aware at all the fake proof out there. We're not here to discuss whether people will believe the proof or not. We are here to post proof and discuss the actual proof itself. We (as in us anon's in this thread) are looking for compelling evidence that could be posited as irrefutable evidence upon review.
>>42905302Can you post any videos/documentaries/articles relating to this that you find compelling?
>>42902546Lived in a house for a few years that was a small 2 bedroom with a mate. Even in summer 100f in the rooms the bathroom would sometimes be freezing cold. (Misty breath kind of cold)The old bathroom door wouldnt close as the house had shifted and it would grind on the floor. You'd have to pull the handle extremely hard to get it almost closed.This door randomly from 1am to 3am would slam shut and open like crazy.Me and room mate would both wake up and see each other at opposite ends of hallway and see this fucking door juet going bananas.Another thing that happened a couple of times was weird. We went out for smokes and beer (30 second walk) and come back smoking, finish smokes. Head inside and every single cupboard and draw in the house would be open to perfectly 90 degrees (including the fridge and freezer) with the gas taps on the stove all going full blast with no flame just spreading gas through the house.Fuck that fucking house. We ended up both using piss bottles or just pissing out the window as the bathroom was a no go zone late at night.Never reported it but multiple people including girlfriends that came and went all had the same experience when in the house in regards to the freezing bathroom and door slamming.
>>42905641This isn’t the medium for that, you’re looking for experiential proof because anything else can be disproven in a board. And no one’s gonna give you experiential proof here, at best you’ll get indications to produce the experiential proof yourself, which is what i was offering.Anything else you’re wasting your time here.
>>42905673Was the house sealed from the outside? In my case, the house wasn't sealed due to the window design, which is what I think was causing the door to slam. I was a soldier at the time, so I figured it was either some soldier bro ghost giving me a hard time for smashing in his haunt, or that it was really just the wind. Wind can do really funny things in a house when you have doors/windows open, especially on opposite sides of the house. Some houses also have an air circulator in the attic that is supposed to work with open/unsealed windows on the ground floor by drawing cooler air into the house from the ground windows using a massive fan in the attic on a vent.Doesn't really explain any of the other stuff (maybe a crazy ex gf trying to fuck with you or your mate?)
>>42905697Well, I choose to believe that we can find something compelling.
>>42905397This reminds me of a college course I took on world religions. One of the over-arching concepts in that class was detailing the similar mythologies across multiple different religions and how most religions seem like they stem from the same source events/stories, speculating that some common event must have happened in the past for so many different religions to have such similarities.
>>42902900>This seems to be hotly debated footage.It's not. Either you're disingenuous or stupid. Official film authorities confirmed the film to be 100% authentic.
>>42905955Please keep the discussion civil.Getting defensive and name calling doesn't help you with claiming authenticity. Being skeptical of something that is supposed to be evidence of an inexplicable occurrence is neither disingenuous or stupid. Understand, that there are two possibilities here. Either proof exists because paranormal activities are occurring and would have to have been filmed at this point and the shear number of people with cameras would make suppressing it impossible, or they simply don't occur, and events that do occur are likely figments of imagination, fictional fabrications, or are completely explainable with all the details. You and I know what is the more reasonable reality.I'm looking for footage that has no explanation.The turkey ufo video is tell-tale UFO slop: unfocused shaky camera, at night unable to make out anything for the first portion, and during the morning portion, showing what is obviously distant (sea)ship lights on the horizon flickering. At 3:41 in the video, you can clearly see they are using some kind of telescopic device. If you've ever used one, you know that if you don't have a correct sight picture on the eye piece, you get weird distorted shit. I don't buy it.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BX3VTg1uQrwIf you have counterpoints, please post them for consideration
