Just found out the Roman elites invented Christianity. Not sure what to believe now
>>42913232>Just found out the Roman elites invented Christianity
I hope everyone in the whole wide world will live in peace with each other and be kind to one another.Nobody really knows w any certainty what happened centuries ago. All the greatest teachers teach to love each other. That is all that matters. I dont think world be destroyed any time soon. Good things ahead.
>>42913232You thought that was bad it gets way way worse when you find out Jesus was a tranny and jehovah was a crossdressor who crossdresses into. Christianity is truly the most perverted and self destructive death cult out there.
>>42913232OH NO NO NO NO NO
>>42913303alexamenos eternally btfo
It's fucking dumb. It's not a Roman psyop. It's a Jewish psyop. I mean, why would Romans completely overhaul and abandon their own mythology in favor of a Jewish, Messianic cult. It goes halfway but not all the way. The author was just too much of a pussy to say the obvious, because he's afraid of being called anti semite. Christianity existed for three centuries before Romans adopted it, and rome actively persecuted Christians for the first hundred. What happened was it took over rome from the bottom up, not the top down.It completely transformed Romes value system from one of overt.aggression to one of meakness and obedience and worship of a Jew and God of the Jews. If Rome wanted to subdue the Jews, they would just destroy their temple and salt their fields with salt and drive them out, which is exactly what they did. Chtistianity was revenge against Rome from the Jews.
>>42913344>abandon their own mythology in favor of a Jewish, Messianic cult.the psyop went too far possibly. does it matter who started it? either way it points to touch the jew psyop and go insane.
>>42913376>the psyop went too far possibly. does it matter who started it? either way it points to touch the jew psyop and go insane.The psyop went as far as it was supposed to go. It's almost miraculous. The Romans destroyed all their idolatrous temples to the heroic gods of their forbarers and worshiped a tortured Jew. The psyop worked incredibly well, as it was designed. The goyim bowed to the God of Israel as foretold by Isaiah. And their empire collapsed.
Shalom
>>42913522>i will not prove jesus isn't a kike>here is a family tree of all kikes you can clearly see jesus is in itokay
>>42913232ha finally>roman jews kill christ>what do we do with his disciples and mary?>can't kill them because it would make them martyrs>decide to put them on a boat and break off any sails, udders, oars, etc and leave them in the middle of the sea>"if christ is real, then surely you'll get out of this pickle!">roman jews were retarded>boat drifts for few days and lands in france>the villagers help them repair their boat>still celebrate their arrival in saintes-maries-de-la-mer>don't know why they hyphenate it so much>sail back to mary's brother's tin mines in cornwall>in 36 AD, they build the first church in glastonbury>disciples decide to spread out into the worldupon hearing that the disciples survived, roma lead a massive invasion on the british isles. the dates line up in history. then around 300 AD, christianity was OK again after charlemagne formed and relased his own biblejesus' uncle, joseph of arimathea, isn't talked about enough. he's the one who first took him to the university of the magi where jesus quickly became a teacher as well as a learner. then he took jesus on a tour of the world visiting every major city. joseph of arimathea was able to do this because he was extremely wealthy with his tin mines in copper. her supplied like 15% of the world with it.he and mary (his sister) were red-haired arimatheans from the british isles. he also has a wiki page and is known in th bible for paying for jesus' funeral. mary was among other girls who had their star charts read and was getting ready to give birth to jesus
>>42913739Joseph buried Jesus and a day later the guards were like “oh shit maybe we should keep watch” and of course the tomb ended up being empty. The author is literally telling you that Joseph snatched the body but this flies over everyone’s heads. But anyway yeah you just made up a bunch of stuff with no sources
>>42913778You're a Roman Jew too who is recoiling over the truth.
>>42913232In Muhammad the glorious light of Islam ofc this is the natural progression, how can a trinity also be one thing and a human man be God cmon. The Quran also teaches you to fight Israel as a bonus.
>>42913778haha i ain't reading that soap opera shit in the OP, man
>>42913805im referencing the bible>As evening approached, there came a rich man from Arimathea, named Joseph, who had himself become a disciple of Jesus. 58 Going to Pilate, he asked for Jesus’ body, and Pilate ordered that it be given to him. 59 Joseph took the body, wrapped it in a clean linen cloth, 60 and placed it in his own new tomb that he had cut out of the rock. He rolled a big stone in front of the entrance to the tomb and went away. 61 Mary Magdalene and the other Mary were sitting there opposite the tomb.>62 The next day, the one after Preparation Day, the chief priests and the Pharisees went to Pilate. 63 “Sir,” they said, “we remember that while he was still alive that deceiver said, ‘After three days I will rise again.’ 64 So give the order for the tomb to be made secure until the third day. Otherwise, his disciples may come and steal the body and tell the people that he has been raised from the dead. This last deception will be worse than the first.”>65 “Take a guard,” Pilate answered. “Go, make the tomb as secure as you know how.” 66 So they went and made the tomb secure by putting a seal on the stone and posting the guard.
>>42913453>The psyop went as far as it was supposed to go.what if it didn't. it doesn't matter as I said, judaism is a black hole. look at germany and russia. germany threw jew agents at russia until the psyop worked too well it became a black hole that sucked the creators of it in.
>>42913344>why would Romans completely overhaul and abandon their own mythology in favor of a Jewish, Messianic cultSame reason why they did with Greek Gods, or Mitra an Iranian God. Its practical
>>42913843>look at germany and russia. germany threw jew agents at russia until the psyop worked too well it became a black hole that sucked the creators of it in.Im sure some Jew, like Josephus, sold Christianity (which means messianism), to some aristocrats as a power move. Wouldn't surprise me.
stop posting my face OP.
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>>42913232Hey guys just found out the gay Babylonians made up judaism. Just made up some gay bullshit called it Israel. Moses is a fairytale.
>>42913232They also killed Jesus. Crazy right?
Welcome to Satanism.
good.
>>42913232Here's the truth:The name Jesus is actually YHSVH. Its supposed to represent a man blessed by god. These stories get repurposed, but the "divinely inspired" part always remains. You're supposed to trave the archetype back to understand that role in their story.Heres a good example:Enoch is shown amazing things, converses with Nephilim etc. He is then taken up to meet god. God imbues him with immortality. God says Enoch is to rule as if he were YHWH. Enoch is then taken away to be with God. This is an archetype.Enoch mentions "the One who was hidden away". This is Ziusudra Utnapishtim Atra-Hasis Adapa. All these names did the same things. Literally. He is even saved like Noah. Christ means the annointed one who spoke with god. This is Adapas story. He is oiled as a cleansing to speak with Enlil, who is literally YHVH. This really isnt hard, you can actually spend a solid month and crack this whole code. Honestly, the best archetype is The Mother of Semi Divine Kings, the gnostics called her the goddess of 10k names. If you just trace her back through comparative names you realise that Inanna is Venus, and Venus is Sophia, and Venus is Isis, and quite literally they are thr same goddess. Both Aphrodite and her daughter Persephone. Persephone descends for Hades who is Osiris, Baachus, Dionysus, Tammuz etc. Hes Azazel to Lilith, who descends for her underworld prince, its an Inanna thing.You have to know the archetypes. Satan is Enki Ea Nudimud Okyanos Oceanus Poseidon Neptune Amirani Prometheus Matsya etc YAhweh El, he is the most high one who ordered the flood , Enlil Dagon, Set, you guys keep saying Moloch which just means angel/king but it refers to Baal, the son of Dagon, or the son of El. But theyre the same god. Its many names for one.Atrah-Hasis and his wife are Adam and Eve. After the agreement was struck and they were allowed immortality, they had to leave our world. Then mankind was blocked from the tree. Marduks agreement.
>>42913232You've always believed in Satan, and you'll go with him to the Lake of Fire.
>>42913344>What happened was it took over rome from the bottom up, not the top down.It was both, Jews were already infiltrating Roman politics. They were already acting as historians, philosophers and other influential people during the Hellenistic period and continued to do so with the Romans. Then you had other Jews like Paul who pretended to convert so they could steer Christianity in a way that would subvert the Romans.
>>42913232>Roman elites(((Roman El-ites)))
>>42914718>Then you had other Jews like Paul who pretended to convert so they could steer Christianity in a way that would subvert the Romans.The fucked up thing is I can read Pauls letters, and I agree with a lot of it on an ontological level (the glass darkly). I think ita repackaged neoplatonism. I think the NT has a lot of truth buried in it. I believe Plotinus figured reality out, and Christianity used it to give Jewish messianism credibility. It would t have gotten so far if it didn't have some deep truth plagiarized into it.
>>42913232this has been debunked by so many atheist scholars. Joseph Atwill is not to be taken serious lol
>>42915003>atheist scholars educated by jesuit/israeli textbooks debunked itOh noooo that sucks :(
I’m guessing Constantine. Sure.
>>42914976>I think ita repackaged neoplatonism.Well yeah, no duh. Philo was already trying to infuse Platonic philosophy and Pythagorean numerology into Judaism. Paul and other "Christian" theologians did the same thing and took most of their ideas from Greek philosophy.
>>42913232Would Judeo-Claudian Emperors really conspire to promote the worship of a JC?Sounds kinda far-fetched.
>>42915032Yah, Philo was the first to learn Neoplatonism.
>>42915032>Well yeah, no duh. Philo was already trying to infuse Platonic philosophy and Pythagorean numerology into Judaism. Paul and other "Christian" theologians did the same thing and took most of their ideas from Greek philosophy.Yah, the biggest tell was how Philo was the first to call the Hebrew God the Logos.I think neoplatonist metaphysics is the best explanation to ultimate truth, and Christianity has enough of it coded in its language to carry real power and truth to get people to buy in. I think the trinity is real on some level as well. The best deceptions are those that carry truth. I believe Origen was slandered because his theology uncovered too much truth.
>>42916364Origen is disparaged, actually the only reason he wasn't a saint, is because he castrated himself "to make himself a eunuch for the kingdom of heaven." The Church had a kind of Kantian view of this. Or did you mean Celsus?
>>42913344>It's fucking dumb. It's not a Roman psyop. It's a Jewish psyop. I mean, why would Romans completely overhaul and abandon their own mythology in favor of a Jewish, Messianic cult. It goes halfway but not all the way. The author was just too much of a pussy to say the obvious, because he's afraid of being called anti semite. Christianity existed for three centuries before Romans adopted it, and rome actively persecuted Christians for the first hundred. What happened was it took over rome from the bottom up, not the top down.It completely transformed Romes value system from one of overt.aggression to one of meakness and obedience and worship of a Jew and God of the Jews. If Rome wanted to subdue the Jews, they would just destroy their temple and salt their fields with salt and drive them out, which is exactly what they did. Chtistianity was revenge against Rome from the Jews.Almost certainly the case. Read David Skrbina's The Jesus Hoax.
>>42913232Wrong. It comes from Jason and the Argonauts.
>>42913232Based book
To try to be succinct, what really happened is the Romans co-opted the Mystery Cults (which exist today and existed prior to Jesus or "Jesus" was ever around) for the purpose of social control. They had noble and ignoble aims and today it's difficult for most people to separate their aims with what happened or understand enough about Mystery Cults, what "Jesus" was really up to or what Christianity was supposed to be to grasp what Christianity came from or what it began as.To be clear, I have not read OP's book.
>>42913344>The author was just too much of a pussy to say the obvious, because he's afraid of being called anti semite.This. Jews have been trying to subvert all non-jews for thousands of years. The Romans politicians wanted rich elites, why would they invent a religion that causes people to hate the rich?
>>42913344>why would Romans completely overhaul and abandon their own mythology in favor of a Jewish, Messianic cult.They didn't.You don't seem to know much about Catholicism or the Roman pantheon. Did you know the Celts and Germans had a very similar distillation occur?Odin and "Jesus" hang from the same tree, anon. Have you ever read about Horus or Attis? What about Jason?
>>42913641Jesus was a Saka just like Buddha and Genghis Khan.How are you people not realizing how obvious it is that the previous civilization (we're talking like before the "year 0" timeline) has been covered up? All the guys that were important in the ancient world had important genetics.Have none of you asked what's going on with the "gingers are going extinct" rhetoric or asked why South Park wouldn't let up?
>>42913868>Same reason why they did with Greek GodsThey didn't overhaul the religion whatsoever. They changed names and recognized the pagan gods were the same rome vs greek
>>42913778The guy did not die in Jerusalem, brainlet. He faked his death after taking political asylum in Phonecia and then fled West (or East to Persia depending on who you believe) because they kept sending assassins after him. Your "Jesus" was the last of a royal line and Rome saw him as a threat. They didn't want him to ascend to power because they knew what his family was capable of.He and his family came from Macedonia.
>>42914034Just like the Orphites had a specific code, so did the Pythagoreans.This is why Plato's "Socrates" was executed by the way. The same exact thing happened to Giordano Bruno and he had probably the single coolest one-liner in all of history when they condemned him to die.
>>42914481Enki is not your fucking enemy. He is your creator, you fucking rodent.
It's good. Think like an elite, not a peon.Do you trust the masses to create morality on their own?
>>42916873I literally didnt say a negative thing about any of these names
>>42914976Paul was a Celt and the Celts (Druids) were a clear and powerful influence upon the Pythagoreans and their cults.Lugh and Theseus have strong overlap. Did you know that?>Plotinus figured reality outNo, he translated it just like plenty of the people prior to him.>Christianity used it to give Jewish messianism credibilityJews were an underclass until a few centuries ago when the Vatican siphoned all of the banking sector to them to subvert (just like jews do today) God's will regarding usury and look where that got us.Christianity borrows intimately from the Mystery Cults and, extremely evidently, the Jews did it even more transparently. The issue is you morons have no idea anymore because you're too busy working overtime for Mr Shekelstein to read any books and realize that the jews just copied everything they had from the Greeks, Romans, Persians, Celts and Germans.It's repugnant you people have no idea that jews have no unique ideas and just how obvious it is that they copied everything and passed it off as their own and haven't even been pulling this shtick for very long.>>42915032>I think it's repackaged neoplatonism.This was the funniest part of that anon's post by the way.No fucking shit. Christianity is just Neoplatonism + Early "Gnostic" (decentralized Christ-focused Mystery) Cults.Guys, Judaism was either a result of your "Jesus" and his cult(s) or around a few hundred years prior. When Ptolemy commissioned the translations for the Library, they translated the prior books into a scribe language that resembled an early Phoenician or Egyptian script. Some even claim it was an early Celtic script - a precursor to Proto-Gaelic (which explains the Egyptian versus Celtic confusion... but only if you actually read books and know why - like who Goidel Glas is or why he's important).
>>42916891This is the problem with you normalfags. You don't even know what the incantations mean."Satan" means "Adversary". Conflating Enki, your fucking creator, with the quintessential "bad guy" is a fucking mistake. What the hell is wrong with you? Are you an asshole to your mom or kids too?
>>42916839>The Romans politicians wanted rich elites, why would they invent a religion that causes people to hate the rich?I assume you're talking about the camel parable in Matthew 19? The idea was that rich people are generally obsessed with material possessions and can't let go of them. Christianity wasn't just "rich people bad." Besides, Jesus literally said to pay your taxes. That's something the Romans would be completely in favor of.
>>42913232>Joseph Atwill>Born in Montecito, California, and educated at the Jesuit-run St. Mary's Military Academy in Japan>Jesuitalright shill, something else to add?
>>42916913It means opposer you fuck, and he opposed Enlil. Holy shit take your fuckin meds. Like i dont know wtf im talking about, did you not read what i wrote. Sperg harder.
>>42917589yhwhists are just stupid and think their obviously evil demon king is "le good" because muh goybull says it!
>>42914976That was by design, they co-opted hellenic ideas to parade around their mountain spirit as the source, kikes pulled that shit several times.
>>42913303they used to scrawl memes at the public potties in Rome
>>42917589It means adversary and it wasn't a name, it was literally a job description for certain angels. That's why you see "satan" just casually stroll into heaven and start talking about Job to Yahweh. Another "satan" showed up to stalk Balaam after Yahweh ordered him to talk to the Moabites, then changed his mind and got angry when Balaam did what he was told. Christians took the name Satan and turned him into this big bad villain who opposed god, likely because they were "inspired" by the struggle between Ahura Mazda and Ahriman. Apocalyptic literature was all the rage back then, that's why you had so many "prophets" ranting about the endtimes. And dualism fits perfectly into apocalypticism, makes it much more exciting when you have some ultimate bad guy to blame everything on.
>>42913232Were they the same Roman elites that were posing as Jewish religious leaders to make them look bad over the whole Jesus thing or is that something different?
>>42917976Thats a kabala thing, though. Youre talking about the point of view of the Jewish people, who made all of these names into egregores. That satan is some necessary opposing force or whatever. Thats ridiculous. There's no way to make people get this until they get there on their own, but this planet is literally ruled by a global shadow government who take orders from a more advanced separate civilization who live amongst us and in deep bases under the ocean and the earth. Thats why thats what all the stories say, and why the symbolism always goes back to the water. People think Atlantis was some fucking island Atlas chilled on with 10 kingdoms or whatever and it sunk. The kingdom went under the ocean, on purpose. If you read the old stories they blatantly tell you they saved their fabourites, wiped the tank, and descended down again. The sumerian kings list is literally our only remaining actual hostorical accounting, other than the myths.If Satan is some spirit, then none of this is real. So then why does every kingdom ever claim their lineage from advanced others from the ocean? Where did all this megalithic architecture, most of it purposefully buried, and all of it dating to before the ice age. Theyve been planning to dig up the labyrinths in egypt as a big reveal this whole fucking time. They left things as "mysteries" so when the time came we would believe them. I realize how schizo this sounds but its true, they're drip feeding a new paradigm as we speak
>>42918050Intelligently discussing christianity is an oxymoron, you're all animals according to your own story. Let me tell you somethingYou guys are told to watch for the trickster god, and the father of lies. In the story that you equate that to is Adam and Eve. In this story Yahew lies, he says if you eat this fruit you will surely die. The Serpent said thats not true, you will recieve true gnosis. And guess fucking what happened. Fact checked the shit out of that cunt.Humanity now knows good and evil. And youre taught the one who wiped the world is the good one. Youll watch the movie Noah with Russel Crowe and never even wonder why hes with Nephilim the whole fucking time. Or why he does a tefilin with a magical snake skin. Fuckin ziusudra christ almighty, you make us all look bad. Christians are permanently caught in the minotaurs labyrinth. What makes them animals is the appeal to authority. They perceive as they're told and they stay in their little literary pen. It doesn't matter that the lake of fire came from Egyptian ritual magick. Or Hel is a nordic word for Agartha, inner earth. You guys are like oh shit there were lots of Noahs whos this deucalion guy, i guess this just happens all the time and theres been like 400 fuckin floods, but my brand nee story full of retarded shit and puns you dont even GETLike holy shit Lucifer gets mentioned ONCE in Ishaih, who straight up only speaks in head nods to the oldest stories, and you guys think thats Satan. Guess what, if you see a star in the morning, guess wtf im going to tell you that is. It's Venus. Thats my rant, take it or leave it
>>42918159>this planet is literally ruled by a global shadow government who take orders from a more advanced separate civilization who live amongst us and in deep bases under the ocean So what, is Lotan/Leviathan supposed to represent this civilization and Hadad/Yahweh defeating it represents land-dwelling humans supposedly triumphing over this civilization?
>>42918206NoSatan, and who you think of as Lilith ultimately created the surface civilization. But they arent loyal to us.The oldest story is the epic of Gilgamesh, and its about a two parts god, one part human. He is a great king, and hes so powerful that Enki makes him a friend Enkidu, which means Enkis creation. This guy dies and Gilg goes on a quest for immortality. He actually finds the last immortal man, who was purposefully hidden away because the surface people are blocked from the tree of life. We are not allowed immortality. And even though Gilgamesh was mostly god, neither was he. He wasnt even allowed longevity from a plant that his immortal ancestor told him of. A serpent takes it away.Canada just released a new $20 bill and its got two pillars on it, which is common. Jachim and Boaz. What they represent is a path to immortality or godly things that only the other kingdom can provide. Its like a promise to the elites. The pillars of Hercules, is what most people call these, but its an occulted story about being in the club. But it comes with a secret.The ark of a the covenant, its not about an acacia wood box. Its saying that the box is figurative and its the secret protection offered by the others. A separation from the chaos of the goyim. But if they peak behind the curtain or tell anyone outside of the ckub, theyre gonna fuckin die. A covenant is a contract, and that contract was to keep the wizarding world from the muggles, so to speak. Theres not nearly the battle between Satan and God that people think.The Merovingians symbol proves a blending of their lineage this is why the templars follow Isis and Caspar Melchior and Balthazar followed a star, its Inanna.The Fleur de Lis, its a Trident. And the Baphomet are the combined symbols of Enki, the Ibex head, Ea the scales at the hips, the capriconus, the breats representing nursing mankind, and the sacred fire stolen from the gods
>>42918226Are you a boomer? Bots dont give a fuck what you think, you christian idiot
>>42918226Youre dumb the rape story was about being good to your neighbour, literally. This is your peoples problem. Wtf are we even talking about, your story is filled with occulted mesh weaving other stories in. You know it, i fucking know it. Youre going to fucking tell me what the bible says? Cant you tell ive read more than you about this?
>>42918305You're right im a bot now fuck on outta here youre shitting up a good thread
>>42915063intentional typo? (this theory seems to be popularly professed among we wuzzers)
>>42917030Sometimes you get trained by Jesuits and end up detesting them.>>42917589"Satan" is derived from the Hebrew שָׂטָן and it has several definitions, the most prominent being "Adversary". Yes, "Opposer" is a strong synonym.>he opposed EnlilYes, I agree.>You're sperging!No, you're conflating the ideas and don't seem to know why it's an issue. This rhetoric is repugnant and you should feel ashamed for suggesting Enki is the "Adversary". Your perspective is what I'm annoyed by, not you not knowing what words mean. If your perspective is aligned with Enlil and you call Enki an opposer or adversary, you're using Enlil's frame and this is retarded and you need to feel retarded for doing it.>>42917976>Satan is an ArchetypeExactly. But if we're conflating Satan and Lucifer, we're making a tremendous mistake and this is my whole entire issue here.Enki is a Lucifer. He's a Satan only if you care who Enlil's enemies are, but for normalfags, building a consensus around Enki = Satan totally spoils what Enki is responsible for and it builds the muh ebil Satan egregore harder while injecting Enki into the mix. We need to fix this and normalfags need to learn their fucking place.
>>42918159>That's a kabala thingWhat the fuck? What does this have to do with the Tree of Life or muh paths or Sefirot?What exactly do you think Kabbalah/Qabalah/Cabala is? >Jewish people, who made all of these names into egregoresThe jews are responsible for practically nothing.>That satan is some necessary opposing force or whatever. Thats ridiculous. There's no way to make people get this until they get there on their ownThis I like.>ruled by a global shadow government who take orders from a more advanced separate civilization who live amongst us and in deep bases under the ocean and the earthYou got this from a "insider leak" on /pol/ like a year or two ago now.Time is not linear and Atlantis is a liminal space like New Grange or Shamballa. These are not physical places, they're not "humans" (Humans are the bodies we wear, silly) and they aren't forward or backward in time because time doesn't go in straight lines, unfortunately.>SatanSatan is an Archetype of the mind. Satan is the egregore that embodies most comfortably the Seven Deadly Sins and normalfags use it to foist their misdeeds upon like jews with their precious chickens.>advanced others from the oceanThere was a series of global catastrophes, people with prominent nautical abilities aided the survivors and created colonies amongst them. The two flourished together, the latter eventually murdered all of them after exploiting them and then the former said fuck you lol we're leaving and now they help you from afar instead. Under oceans?... Not unless your entire worldview is based on stuff people shitpost about on /pol/.You're getting some things right though. Don't let my pedantry confuse you.
>>42918206>>42918262Can you guys please just read Julian Jaynes? Gilgamesh is about Consciousness and what it means to integrate Death into Life. Enki endowed all of us with Consciousness, you nerds, the progenitor of a Human Vessel imbued with Divine Will, (You).When we slay the Chaos-Serpent, we cleave Ego from the union of Flesh and Divinity and thus we have the Ubermensch or we achieve Apotheosis, the union with the Deity.>MerovingiansThey merged with the bloodline of the guy all of you keep calling "Jesus". He was the last of Ptolemy's progeny and was chased out of the Middle East and into Europe - his family was anyway.Mary, "The Tower", Magdalene, the Queen Bee, was a Phoenician Priestess of Astarte, anon. >>42918944Judaism got subsumed in the forward momentum of Mystery Religions emerging from the Piscean expanse over the last era. The new era is fixated on Aquarius and thus far less whimsical, wonderous and mesmerizing. Christianity was the vehicle. Since Judaism borrowed so intensely from exactly the same sources the Early Christians themselves even mentioned being inspired by and since Jews have largely conquered the West today via pointless wars, MindGeek, Epstein and Usury, they've injected the notion that Christianity was and is jewish, that jews are more influential upon History and that Christianity isn't what it always was. Sadly, none of you can object competently because you don't even bother to read any of the books, ask anyone knowledgeable about this or fit the puzzle back together yourselves.
>>42919165>they've injected the notion that Christianity was and is jewishliterally 2 lines after you wrote>Magdalene, the Queen Bee, was a Phoenician Priestess of AstarteSo which is it? You claim anons saying Enki = Satan is wrong but you fail to grasp the mutable warfare that is /x/'s dismantling of mystery. They learn that mysteries are hidden behind the Satan bogeyman and by tracing that bogeyman to its various neutral or beneficial sources anons learn to not fear the reaper regardless where it rears its head or what it chooses to appear as or what it's called.For example you're dishing out plenty of mystery knowledge, now, but you're not going all the way because you still want anons to flock to your posts. If Mary was a priestess of Astarte then let us talk about her ritual prostitution and the ways she enabled Jesus, as a priest of the mysteries, to prepare male youths for the mysteries. We could speak of the passage in Mark about his naked youth and why maybe the Merovingian-scaled legends about being an Ubermensch wasn't as innocent as scholars are able to publish about.Instead you're weaving half-truths while wearing the mask of a hierophant. Go big or go home faggot, anons won't be pushed around so easy.
>>42919191>So which is it?I'm sorry. You appear to be tremendously confused. Did someone tell you that "jews" and Phoenicians are equivalent? The people now currently, as a result of the Haavara Agreement and what's unfolded since, are Europeans - largely derived from an ancient slave class gathered up by the Hyksos or Edomites as they traversed the Levant and made their way to Anatolia. Nice try, big guy.>anons saying Enki = Satan is wrongThat's not what I'm saying. I'm saying using the Enlil is the main character frame of reference makes other normalfags think Enki is le bad guy because they have an ill-formed perspective on what Satan is, as you've seemingly complained about several times already in this thread, to which I agreed pretty transparently. >ritual prostitutionYou're confused. It meant "Virgin", not "prostitute". She was a Royal Virgin. Isn't it obvious? She "mastered Seven Spirits". They were pretty explicit about what she was doing. Read further and you'll see all the references to Bee symbolism and then you'll learn who the Milessae were and who Demter was and on and on. Go do that on your own though since I'm not here to hold your hand.>naked youthsPeople disagree vehemently with Hillman about the real definition. Besides, Jesus was conducting an Initiation, not diddling kids, retard.>you won't... push us around!Except you're a newfag and don't even know what's happening right now. Nice try though, sport.
>>42919209>>42919191>The people now currently, as a result of the Haavara Agreement and what's unfolded since, are EuropeansIn Israel. I made a mistake.
>>42919209Lol I'm not confused, you did exactly what I wanted.See anon much like Satan it doesn't matter what we call them, if the Phoenicians were Semites or Caucasians. Their mysteries involved initiating youths in sex and this is nothing new to 4chan especially /x/. Calling me a newfag for that won't get you points from the audience.I suspect the reason why someone so learned as yourself is tiptoeing the topic is because you know the real goal isn't keeping the mysteries from humanity it's carefully guiding humanity back to the mysteries it once turned from. We've had plenty of threads about the Bees and Scythians, you haven't typed a damn thing that's new information, but you are (again) peddling half-truths so you can insult anons while failing to mention the holy Phoenicians and their messiah (Jews or not) still practiced ritual cannibalism and pedophilia. Even now you do the "virgin period blood priestess" thing kek. I wish I was a newfag.
>>42919223Ah, the age-old "everyone's a cannibal pedophile!"Sadly, you're incorrect. Everyone hasn't always been a deranged, pedophilic cannibal despite you apparently wanting desperately for them to have been.I'm not tiptoeing. Hillman is nearly correct, but not fully. If you think diddling kids and initiating them are the same things, you're the one with the skewed perspective undermining the sanctity of the Mysteries.I'm glad you've been enjoying my posts. I'm glad I could elucidate for you a more refined view of history, Poetry, Mysticism, Philosophy, Spirituality and a great deal more. I'm flattered that you would refer to my trend, my rhetoric, my ideas and suggest that I haven't been the one routinely informing you for some time now.Do you know what isn't flattering? You still bucking me after all these years.You're welcome.
>>42919344>If you think diddling kids and initiating them are the same things, you're the one with the skewed perspective undermining the sanctity of the Mysteries.Perhaps you misunderstand. I'm engaging with you because I think you're trying to introduce rose-colored scholarly minutia to impede anons' catching onto the root of the matter. You make several good points but that's because you just speak truth, not because you're justified or correct in all of it. Otherwise you don't sound genuine because your rhetoric tries to box anons back into (((academic))) level understandings while still parading enough terms and jargon around to sound like you're uncovering the mysteries. Even that would be fine and dandy if you weren't acting like a dick towards those who are encountering these topics fresh and new. Also I don't know who you are lol.https://youtu.be/6jHTKVexrYE
>>42919165>they've injected the notion that Christianity was and is jewishoh, you're crazy and sperging in response to something that had nothing to do with my question. or maybe that was part of the original typo as well thus affirming the 'we wuzzing' point i was making in your backwards clown world reality. duly noted
>>42913232They invented catholicism, not christianity. The catholic church is basically a big corporation.
>>42919165>wall of text cope
>>42913232>>42913235Of course they did. It’s all solar worship at its core. The crown of thorns that Christ supposedly wore was known as the solar crown or radiate crown that Constantine wore when he converted the empire to Christianity. Christ is the sungod personified in order for people to relate better but also to obfuscate the source and centralize power in the intuition now known as the Vatican. It’s all about control. Welcome to the real world anon
>>42919609Yeshua is lunar cult worship and far more aligned with the mother cults endemic to the region, appropriating its spirituality, titulature, and prayers etc. The humanness is another lunar element. The imperial cult impressions failed to override the intrinsic nature and origins of this death cult. A subversively direct and perfect (((entryist))) capture of the transcendent and solar heart of Roman religio.
>>42919667Nope it is not. It’s solar worship. You see that disc behind Christ head? That’s the sun disk. Christ bday was Dec 25 same as sol invictus etc. you don’t know what your talking about
>>42919667Picrel. It’s solar worship I don’t wanna hear uneducated fags calling it lunar worship when it isn’t
>>42919709For all you Christ fags this also proves the holy nails weren’t real they were reinterpreted which proves Christ was always 100% myth and never existed bcuz it was all solar worship. Eat shit Christian’s
>>42913232>Jesus invented Christianity by being GodWe know
>>42913232No friend, that's the gay talking.The theory is pure cope. The romans never did anything like that in recorded history. If you want to make up fantasy romans you might as well make up something cooler, like they chose to reincarnate as the 20th century Germans to conquer Europe.
>>42913232Jews injected Christianity into the roman culture through their operative josefus and used it to destroy Rome.It is currently the year 5786 on the Hebrew calendar. On Sept 11 at sunset it will be 5787. They didn't invite you to celebrate because they don't consider you to be human. They think they are the only humans and everyone else is just animals gifted to them by their god.If they don't slaughter some of the animals in their ceremonies then they are not showing their gratitude to their god for the gift.They are the owners. You are the property. Everything that they have taught you through the media and education system they provided to their cattle has been lies designed to keep you from learning from your own direct personal observation. Learn from reality about what actually does exist. None of their lies are designed to help you.. but even they are also following lies.Develop the ability to perceive from outside your body. Begin with lucid dream and become fully conscious during the time you are sleeping.. then study what you are seeing in detail. Over time you can learn from reality through this method.
>>42913739this could explain how the germans of the north that invaded Rome at the end were already converted to Christianity. Also, Cicero etc discovered that Caesar and company were sending tons of gold from the Roman treasury to Phoenicia.
>>42913266>I hope everyone in the whole wide world will live in peace with each other and be kind to one another.Not possible. The world is ruled by psychopathic lizards.
>>42919453>you're trying to... to... toMaybe everyone doesn't have an agenda like you seem to. Why do you want me to have an agenda, be a fed or be really dumb so badly?Maybe you just don't know enough about this to try to insist I'm wrong and are retreating to this sad, tired routine of "you're trying to spoil something here but I don't know what it is!"What if instead you gave this shit up and quit acting like a child?>>42919552>everyone's a jewish cannibal pedophile!If only that were true. Sadly, you're wrong and also stupid.
>>42919571Yes, yes, surely my ability to say far more than you about this subject is me only engaging because it's a coping mechanism. Surely I'm being verbose and annoying and saying nothing of substance.It's funny how upset people like you get when you point out that everyone wasn't brown in the ancient world and that most of it was conquered by white people. Why does that make you so upset? Is it because you hate white people?>>42919609>>42919667>>42919709The cults in general were famously carrying the water of previous iterations of their culture. The Solar and Lunar themes go side by side on purpose and it's a core feature of their teachings: combining opposites to create an important synthesis. This synthesis comes through in a variety of forms and we've touched on them previously in the thread. The reason Jesus and his wife were so commonly compared to Apollo and Artemis, for a prominent example, was because they continued the myth through new and emerging figures. This type of cultural translation occured a plethora of times during the wide span of time we're loosely referring to here: it happened between the Greeks and Romans, Romans and Celts, even the Pre-Socratics and the Pythagoreans and their contemporaries.The two biggest bodies in the sky for the ancients were the Sun and the Moon. Their idea was a grand extrapolation of the watered-down myths we all speak of today and they were integral to their worldview.By all means, insist this is just tiptoeing like a normalfag, but to not know about this and the pervasive inspiration it offers essentially every spiritual system is just sophmoric and insulting.It's not one or the other, but both.
>>42919968It wasn't all a big accident and they weren't just hapless idiots casting their captors into the sea to die.They fled. "Jesus" and his family were being hunted down and multiple assassination attempts were had. His friends talked about this persistently in many Proto-Christian writings, commonly alluding to "the Bridegroom" and the "Queen Bee" and how they once again nearly escaped death.Instead of some fluid transmission, at some point it wanes into episodic myth-making used to send, in retrospect, coded messages back and forth between those being pursued and the Romans, who were hunting them down.If you'll all kindly turn to Mark's Chapter 4, you'll see "Jesus" make references to "musterion" (you know, "Mysteries") and speaking in code so the people trying to hunt them down have a tougher time finding and murdering themSadly, no priest will ever actually explain this to you because they're dullards who only pretend to read books.
>grug level of analysis that doesnt even bother to read the post mysteriously terminating in we wuzzing every single timeObsessed.
>>42916841>They didn't.>You don't seem to know much about Catholicism or the Roman pantheon. Did you know the Celts and Germans had a very similar distillation occur?>Odin and "Jesus" hang from the same tree, anon. Have you ever read about Horus or Attis? What about Jason?All I know is Catholics say Jupiter, Zeus, Hera Mercury, etc. is a demon and that Jesus is the Jewish Messiah foretold by the Jewish prophets. There's the whole protestant idea that saints were adapted from idol worship. However, I see that as a structural or social adaptation on a pagan society. That's just a subversion method. In truth, Catholics curse Zeus as a demon, just as Lutheran's curse Odin as a devil.
>>42913232basedhttps://youtu.be/wkx4KUKXosU>historical Abraham
>>42913344You and op and halfsies retarded. The Roman invented the psyop to fuck with the Jews, but then they saw how persistent the psyop had become and gradually saw how it could be a useful tool for political control. That's when they repurposed the psyop.
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>>42920446>All I know is Catholics say Jupiter, Zeus, Hera Mercury, etc. is a demonYeah and once you learn what "daemon" meant to the people described in the worldviews asserted by "Socrates", you understand how to read their codes. Then you get to ask why the Catholics seem to have carried the ideas into a modern era but somehow curiously have so much of it backwards.>Catholics say Jesus is a jewish messiahEvent he Catholics weren't fond of the jews earlier on. Again, you not knowing about that is insulting.>Protestant idea that saints were adapted from idol worshipRight, it's part of their whole shtick: they're super psyoped about "withchcraft". Why do you think that might be? Do you think it's perhaps because the same people who banned it in Greece multiple times (see Bacchanalia) maybe arrived to destroy it when they found themselves in the Colonies a few hundred years ago?>adaptation on a pagan societyIsn't it funny how now we're walking through all of the examples of the things I've described? It's almost like you're comically assuming my worldview and making us walk through it.>a subversion methodYou don't say - the exact thing I've been explaining this entire time.Rome is the prototypical Propaganda arm of those that control it. They've always been the best at Propaganda in our modern era. They appear to have invented it and if you go and read through the development of this process from a Historian's perspective, you'll see exactly what I mean: people like Caesar salted the earth during their escapades and instead of offering earnest depictions of what they saw, they called everyone schizophrenics, like in South America, savages, like the Northern tribes (what did you think that wall was for?) and plenty more. You know the Romans committed many genocides looking for the inheritors, correct? You do know they didn't exactly stop, right?>devilDo you know how many times the "bad guy" was won over and joined the "Good Guys" squad?
>>42919609>It’s all about controlRight. It's all about Roman control. Got it
