What is Satan/Lucifer exactly?
>>42916140This false physical world
>>42916140He's Prometheus your soulBut you can liberate him as Theseus with the Royal Art of the Sons of HermesAnd restore your Titanic self into the Olympian dignity of your birthrightAnd then you are GOD you are
>>42916140satan = saturnlucifer = venus
>>42916140gay
>>42916140The inevitable descent into reality post-loss of innocence.
>>42916194gay
Satan is basically like the opposite of jesus, like jesus has a human and godly form the antichrist's physical form is satan. Jesus commands the angels and satan commands the demons.
>>42916199jesus = sun
>>42916140>>42916194https://youtu.be/htixqnIHibQ The Anunnaki had been giving plagues to humanity, in an effort to lower their numbers.Enlil, in command of Earth, wielder of lightning bolts, was displeased with Humanity and wanted them gone.Enki, his brother, took pity on humans and secretly taught them to worship only 1 Anunnaki at a time, the one responsible for the current plague, to basically guilt trip them into stopping the plague. This works a few times before Enlil realises what Enki has done and punishes him by causing his power over the waters to flood the people. Enki teaches Ziusudra to build an ark. (This was turned into the Noah story, even down to releasing the birds from the ark and saving animals.)So, Enlil finally agreed to spare the rest of humanity afterwards, allowing disease, child deaths and religious celibacy to control their population numbers.However, Enlil had learned from his brother. He saw how easy the humans were to control when they all worshipped only 1 Anunnaki. He could punish Enki again for his betrayal, and take control of all the Earth, by doing the same.Enlil became Yahweh of Armies, a monotheistic storm-god ruler that declared himself above all other “gods”. Enki was turned into “satan” for giving humanity forbidden knowledge (forbidden fruit)Enlil and Enki.Zeus and Prometheus.Yahweh and Satan.Humans filled in the gaps but the theme remained. A storm-themed entity took over and punished another entity for helping us.
>>42916486I'm so sick of hearing about population control as a justification when there's nothing but "HAVE SEX REPRODUCE IMMEDIATELY" propaganda shoved down our throats everywhere, especially in the middle east where they're being aggressively multiplied without end and spilled everywhere else.
>>42916140The snake fighting its own tail instead of eating it.
>>42916730Birth rates are down in 1st world countries.
>>42916140Satan and Lucifer are not the same being.
>>42916804because breeding is ultimately useless at this point. the only people who do it are hobbyist and the poor
>>42916140Two different entities. Satan just means adversary. Lucifer is a specific fallen angel.
Accuser of God. God makes the case that it is all good, Satan makes the case that God is not all good.
Me
>>42916486Enlil-lord of the airEnki- lord of Earth Zeus-to shine Prometheus- forethoughtYahweh- to be, I amSatan- adversary, accuser So mind and body. Overcoming earthly/mortal/bodily trials and temptations leads to enlightenment.
A good king.
Satan is the highest ranking angel who sits right besides god and gets to shittalk him and human.Luciferis the uppity first son who is jealous of his sibling Jesus for getting all the praise while he does all the work.The Angelic family is very big and they are all in cohorts while acting out occasionaly.In the end they reconsile and get along , some things are best left unspoken.
To me, Satan is a representation of the forces of controlled chaos. Order that perpetuates cycles of suffering and stagnation by atomizing everyone into their own hedonistic bubbles and stoicist lethargy. Lucifer is or was, the promethean spirit. The hope for something greater beyond and to bring it within reach. A wishful desire to reject a flawed world and create a better one. However, the angel fell and abandoned his post and responsibility due to (insert justification). The point isn't whether or not Lucifer was good, but that there is a vacancy in the heavens and a lack of faustian drive in our modern zeitgeist.Fuck Satan, whether he is an angel or devil. We need a new morning star.
>>42918059Care to explain your refutation to>>42917949
>>42916140in the bible it says the Lord called all his sonsand he asked satan what he was doingand he said "walking to and fro the earth".however, and at any given point in time, the Lordcould stop the devil.he actually addresses this situation multiple times actuallyhe said if i were to put an end to somethingwhere would i stop?it isnt up for people to decide the world is setthe way it is.when the jews asked Jesus who sinned referringto the man born blind, and the Christ saidno one. the devil sinned. it is so that the son of man could be proven.Jesus taught his disciples to heal, even raise the dead.and there were cases of other resurrections far before Jesus the Christ's time.thats the hardest thing in the world to think about i think.innocent suffering. but we can help them.we have to.if there werent this pain how could we even live?there has to be a backdrop.and so God asked satan what he was doing.he didnt stop him.we can make their lives better.
>>42918249I think that is still in line with my perspective. Lucifer gave up the ideal that was God and abandoned said divinity due to some lesser gripe. He lost the moment he renounced the name given to him. Much like when Man chooses to renounce God and make themselves lesser beasts of chaos. It is a disease that keeps popping up.
>>42916860>Lucifer is a specific fallen angel.Source?
>>42918249>An Omnipotent God's perfect creation was somehow ruined by an Angel Right, more likely the world was always fucked and the Angel is a fall guy (lol get it). Don't feel bad for him though he is in on it.
>>42918339There isn't one because lucifer dose'nt exist in the primary source.
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>>42916199Why do you think satan is Saturn? Saturn would be yaweh in that pantheon
>>42918391>God let it happenThanks anon
>>42916860Lucifer, the morningstar is Venus, who is Inanna, Lilith, Aphrodite and Persephone and pretty much 90% of the goddesses you know. Female
>>42916140Satan is Enki Ea Nudimud Ninsiku Okyanks Oceanus Poseidon Neptune Amirani Prometheus Matsya, the serpent in the myth of Etana, and the serpent in genesis.Lucifer is Nammu, Ereshkigal, Inanna, Ninsumun, Nineveh, Ishtar, Ashera, Isis, Matar Kubeleya, Ninhursag, Hera, Aphrodite, Persephone, Venus, Eosphorus, Sophia, Lilith, and too many to listIf you went through the wikipedia of these names in this grouping you will answer your own question
>>42917486>"sibling" JesusIf only you knew how bad things really are.
>>42916140Satan is God or the Demiurge when he needs to be evil.
>>42918394>yaweh in that pantheonwhich it is. yahweh means earth and saturn becoming one.also sometimes occam's razor helps. never thought about that satan literally sounds like saturn?
>>42918444Well, no in the lineage Saturn eats his children. Heres a fun simile. Theres an old story called the Myth of Etana, and in it is a part about a Serpent a Tree and an Eagle. When the serpent goes away the Eagle eats his babies. You see, its Yahweh who flooded the world because he feared the new slaves would revolt. Yahweh is Enlil, El, Set, Zeus, Yahweh El is connected through all the myths, and you need to know all his names to udnerstand the whole story.
>>42918413>You think your argument is good but it's actually BADAmazing refutation anon
>>42918457>Saturn eats his childrenwhich secretly means saturn is swallowing up the earthnote that the final tarot card "the world" is both earth and saturn.
The truth about God's divine justiceThat people remained unwaveringly unchanging even in heaven. So he left.
>>42918486do not let them hear your voice
>>42916194By the way, this is the wholly accurate ethos of hermeticism
>>42918486>infinitely more impactful for Christ to die for a humanity that's utterly fallen and broken than to die for one that hasn't partaken of the knowledge of good and evil.Could God have made the second option as impactful as the first?
>>42918520Because he makes the rules and could have created a world that was deeply meaningful AND perfect
>>42916140Satan is an umbrella jewterm for anything they don’t like, like amalek, but don’t worship Satan cuz it’s booby trapped, amalek maybe, idk. Lucifer is like a mockery of Hermelios, yet quite a sympathetic character, tho I do wonder if he ever will rebel, and what that times new Roman is all about. Also Lucifer is like the cunt Karen version of Yogweh, who is mad that god will let normies make universes and like if a normie gets to heaven and wants to make an eternal suffering plane for a bunch of beings it created and put them in there forever simply because of their existence/ state of being.. I mean.. how the fuck big is this loop? That’s what god fucking did, and now allegedly some hick 85 iq prayerling can just do that but for any reason.. like it could be good people in hell, for no reason, some retard normie could come up with some fanfic about some Shinji ass “non-hero” who saved the world by doing nothing, plus ammons shit (time anomaly here also but I mean..) and if you don’t believe in him you go to eternal suffering palace, did this already happen, is this not base reality? Also a bleeding herring cuz he’s so cool, do no good (except in Haiti or Africa), permit all evils, pray blessings on the evil people.So Lucifer is essentially right, but why not let the people all make realities and then filter them post fact and have a billion deus (actually good one) ex machines to end all the shitty people’s universes, like instantly? We need this material translation of a gambit-test to see if you get god powers and make a reality where you probably fuck up same as the first dot who did it. And his plan to fuck it all up like a crybaby is respectable but also gay, yet the informational removal plan is straight perfect, without salvation there is no need for suffering or evil. So these 2 faggots who’ll do less than a poltergeist and get blamed and credit for it all, have the most crossed backwards plans and are likely in cahoots
>>42916140I am but no one believes me. I used to be amun ra ama
>>42916140Mythological creature from jewish myths.
Fallen angels, he brought about 200 fallen angels down to earth as shapeshifters. Some are different known celebrities in hollywood etc play different roles. They must also work with reptilians etc. So I dunno.
