If the Abrahamic God/Demiurge is Saturn then who created Saturn?>Inb4 aliensAren't aliens a blue beam psyop?>inb4 ein sofSome magic ineffable soul slop orb?
the spirit created the material. not other excuse required.without spirit we are all dead.
>>42917460>If Saturn Is "God"He's not>Then Who Created Saturn?Caelus and Terra
>>42917845>He's notHe's the Abrahamic "God".>Shabbat is Saturday/Saturn's Day>Bible speaks of Reaping and Sowing (Reaper)>Black Robes>Abrahamic Cube Symbolism>Caelus and TerraSo are you saying that Time began when Caelus (The Sky Father/infinite space) met Terra (The Earth Mother/primordial substance and the physical potential of matter).So "time" was born/began when matter began?
>>42917994>He's the Abrahamic "God".Nope. Saturn is not a creation deity.>>Shabbat is Saturday/Saturn's DayWhich means what? Roman's in Italy naming their days after planets has nothing to do with the Jews in the Middle East.>Bible speaks of Reaping and Sowing (Reaper)Yahweh is a creation deity not a cyclical agricultural god>>Black Robes>Abrahamic Cube Symbolismnot even related to the Roman god Saturnus
If you are looking for a 'who' then maybe Abrasax
>>42918051>Nope, Saturn is not a creation deity.Both the Ophite and Sethian Gnostics associated the Demiurge with Saturn.>Which means what?Out of all days of worship they picked Saturn's day, the Biblical "God" is also depicted as a bearded old man (Saturnian). And even without the Roman day association the word Shabbat is tied to the Hebrew word for Saturn (Shabbetai).https://katz.sas.upenn.edu/resources/blog/saturn-and-jews>Yahweh is a creation deity not a cyclical agricultural god.Carl Jung writes that Yahweh is Saturn in his book (Aion: Researches into the Phenomenology of the Self) from 1951.Quote:>"According to Irenaeus, the Gnostics held that Sophia represents the world of the Ogdoad, 33 which is a double quaternity, In the form of a dove, she descended into the water and begot Saturn, who is identical with Yahweh".>Cube Symbolism.>not even related to the Roman god Saturnus.Saturnus is a god of time and limitations, he was syncretized with the Greek Chronos, the Greeks associated the Cube with our 3d world (a limitation), in his dialogue Timaeus, Plato associated the cube with the classical element of earth as part of his three-dimensional geometrical model of the physical world.A god of limitations who presides over this realm of limiation.>Black RobesSaturn has been associated with the color black since ancient times, originating in Babylonian cuneiform texts well over 2,500 years ago.https://www.giss.nasa.gov/pubs/abs/st08120k.html>>42918301>If you are looking for a 'who' then maybe Abrasax.That's Another name for Sirius.>Siriusאברק>Abraxאברקס>Abraxasאברקסס
>>42918334>Both the Ophite and Sethian Gnostics associated the Demiurge with Saturn.Who cares what they think. Yahweh and Saturnus worship existed for a thousand years before they made up their lore.>Out of all days of worship they picked Saturn's daySaturn's day was made up by the Italians nearly a thousand years after Yahweh worship was invented by Middle Easterners. I don't think Moses time traveled because he cared about 3rd century Roman naming conventions. >Carl Jung writes that Yahweh is Saturn in his bookwho gives a shit about his irrelevant opinion, the Romans who raided the Second Temple called Yahweh Caelus>Cube Symbolism.never associated with Saturn or Cronus or Chronos
>>42918431>Who cares what they think?They originated from the Greco-Roman period you're mentioning so i thought valid to mention them.>Yahweh and Saturnus worship existed for a thousand years before they made up their lore.It also existed for a thousand years before the Romans made up their lore, so why focus solely on the Roman paradigm? Follow the synchronicities and syncretisms between them.>I don't think Moses time traveled because he cared about 3rd century Roman naming conventions.The hebrew etymological connection is still there independently from Roman naming conventions.>the Romans who raided the Second Temple called Yahweh Caelus.They called Yahweh Caelus because they were idol worshippers who struggled to understand the concept of a single, formless God, so they reasoned that the Jews must be worshipping the ultimate physical canopy above them a.k.a the sky itself. That doesn't mean they were correct, they also didn't notice Yahweh's Cube (Heavenly Jerusalem) and the cubic tefillin.>Cube Symbolism was never associated with Saturn or Cronus or Chronos.The cubic tesserae became synonymous with Saturnalia.
>>42918641Pull out yer' black cubes for Saturnalia and have a gamble!
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>>42917460Eris of course.
>>42918641Not him but if Saturn is evil why would Jesus keep the Sabbath?
Saturn is time. People used to track their lifetime by watching Saturn move through the Zodiac
>>42920576Are you saying divine Chaos?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_(cosmogony)How do you like them apples?>Not him but if Saturn is evil why would Jesus keep the Sabbath?Because like Father like Son.>>42920604>People used to track their lifetime by watching Saturn move through the Zodiac.Not exactly, people did not literally track their individual lifespans day-to-day by watching Saturn move through the Zodiac, but they did speak of the Saturn Return as a season or cycle in one's lifetime, they also tracked Saturn for agricultural reasons.The Zodiac was made by farmers for farmers.
>>42920837Can you give me more info about the connection between Saturn and the Sabbath comes from? I have looked it up and it seems to be an attribution from the romans Also, what are your beliefs? Are you a gnostic?
>>42920856The Babylonian Talmud (Post Roman) refers to Saturn as Shabbetai, i.e., the star of Shabbat (Saturday), however the text was compiled by Rabbis in Mesopotamia (Babylonia) far outside of direct Roman rule, the text had Babylonian Astral Science and Astrology influences which long predated Roman expansion.The practice of assigning each day of the week to a specific planet (including Saturn for Saturday) was developed later by the Hellenistic Greeks and adopted by the Roman Empire during the 1st and 2nd centuries CE.So i'd say the connection is fundamentally more Hellenistic rather than uniquely Babylonian or Roman.You also have Satanists today doing their Witches' Sabbaths and worshipping the Saturn as the Goat (Pan or Satan).The book (The Astronomico-Theological Lectures), written by Reverend Robert Taylor also says Israel means Saturn.Quote:>"And then you will understand that the Benu Yesreile, or Children of Israel, literally, really, and from the first use of that term in the ancient Phoenician language meant the Stars of Heaven Yesreile being the Phoenician name of the planet Saturn, of whom all the celestial bodies within the range of his immense orbit are the children.">Also, what are your beliefs, Are you a gnostic?Not exactly, Gnosticism is a religion of escapism like most others and i don't believe their promises of the other side, if this world was as bad as they say then we wouldn't see it be so contested among the EL-ites.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_(deity)
Trying to figure it all out, you gotta throw away or explain away some stuff. So what all are we including and why, well let's ignore the future even though in 2012 someone posted the 2006 4chan future prophecy in a I am from the future thread after someone else said OP is gay but I'm from 2040 and mentioned Russia invading Crimea, Trump winning, starting trade war with China, them supposedly releasing Covid-19 that's not too bad but hurts our economy, and war with Russia in late '20s. We go over there, also China will invade Taiwan next year which is what sets it off, and Israel is gonna get wiped and then there will be a new world order.Anyway, what are we including, how about, annunaki, abrahamic religions, hermetic/gnostic, aliens, reptilians, few more things. Okay so, uh. where to start. Well my book says Saturn has been around a long time. And let's say bible Jesus is a burying of gnostic Jesus. There is an imaginationland and you can use it, chill in it, or get past it to the monad/nirvana/nothing. So, first demiurge made everything including reptilians, there's uhh nephilim/annunaki/igigi... they made us, controlled us, mated with us, stories all seem similar but it's hard to find one way to put it all.... there was a flood, some of them survived. As of rn, we are being controlled by masons/kabalists/reptilians who are worshipping saturn still. So how do we really put it? Idk. It is what it is? I'll share a few links that have gone into this maybe more
The glowing one has arrived to derail.
>>42917583What Spirit? The Christian Holy Spirit?The Holy Spirit is usually represented by a Dove, the Dove was known by the Greeks as Peristera or the Bird of Ishtar, in other words Venus.
okay here is a list of links, really only a few but they are like a year's worth of stuff for someone who hasn't read this stuffI'm currently looking for the link to all the CIA guy threads where he talks about Zeus and Chronusalso looking for the Operation Minerva thread, I'll make the note editable if you guys feel like adding to it
>>42921431https://hypernotepad.com/n/c59389b2ff6baa2f#40ff85420fbbf2cd i forgot the link lol
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>>42921449ite. https://rumble.com/v6y3bwy-jesus-never-called-god-yhvh-the-hebrew-kabbalah-name-game.html?e9s=src_v1_upp_vthis one covers a whole lot. but basipally the bible has been tampered with and we're all run by sneaky saturnists
>>42921449google project gatewayhttps://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/cia-rdp96-00788r001700210016-5.pdfbasipally this means that whatever shit the hermits/gnostics/alawis/masons/kabaalists do well the CIA seems to agree that there is an imaginationland
>>42917460Supergod
>>42921449if you just youtube search nephilim and gnostics you'll find plenty of videos that describe those things. The nephilim match the annunaki stories in a lot of ways, I suppose you could say there are plenty of things sleeping with humans, but I'm trying to reduce everything so if anyone wants to contribute that's cool but so as of rn you know yhwh=saturn and the nephilim are the igigi so these stories all line up
>>42921449facebook surge.jah3511 send a message to Anu that there are speaking Adamites who have just been born on Earth.facebook Taylordurden609/reels/first guy has one good post recently but lots morethe second guy has lots of reels covering lots of things including the tower of babel, humans really started in america and were black, just a whole lot of shit, mountains are really just buildings and we keep having these meltdowns that fry fucking everything. there are in fact lots of melty places. also, what does anyone think about supposedly old fireplaces actually being used for some other shit
>>42917460The Monad it isn't that complicated.
>>42921449I'm currently looking for the CIA guy threads where he is talking about Zeus and ChronusAlso looking for the thread about Operation Minerva where he says Hillary is burned, she'll never be president
>>42921449this is the alawi guy, he's got some other things like a discord, if I'm reducing it, it's just another hermit/gnostic/whatever. But, let's say you're just trying to get past the archons and stuff like gnostic jesus says. Well, this guy says a little more about this in between place. First, there was a first demiurge, who made reptiliians and djinn, but he got ate. Also, Sophia is just another dangerous cloud, and there are places on earth where it's idk easier to astral project idk. Some of the gnostics like Sophia but really, Barbelo, that and the monad are like the real supreme anythings
>>42921536https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/37333243/#37333243
>>42921449this is a recent thread on pol where some guy seems to really know what he's talking abouthttps://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/494576507
>>42921467>>42921474>>42921504>>42921541>>42921550
>>42921449https://ia600404.us.archive.org/2/items/TheLanguageCrystal/The_Language_Crystal_text.pdfThis book is called the language crystal, I haven't read it.I am looking for a link to a website that had a bunch of decoded comms on it. This guy figured out, there's code in the newspapers for elites to communicate with each other out in the open
>>42921536also according to him, the reason this all exists is because Sophia, wisdom, wanted to understand another Aeon, Chaos, and you can't fuckin understand chaos, if u do u shit out a demiurge aka saturn, but he's actually the second demiurge. I forget how that happened, but he showed up and ate the first one who kinda looked like a serpant, that's why he's a serpant with a lion head
>>42921629and since I can't find it, the CIA guy said that basipally there is a war between Chronus and Zeus, but we can't find Zeus or Jesus so fuck. Chronus turned Hercules so Zeus turned Jesus lol. But this brings up a lot of questions. Zeus is eating people so that's not good. Also, the uhh snakes will bite u but you won't die and then the I am not a pirate... this one guy Ammon Hillman, as I'm trying to make all these things fit together. Well, he agrees with the first video Jesus never called god YHYH by ben born again. He has studied greek and he thinks the septuagint is the oldest surviving copy so that means the dead sea scrolls are indeed only 1,000 years old. The first video I linked is really good, it shows how modern hebrew is not original hebrew. And to tie it into gnostics and stuff... well... it kinda corroborates it that he thinks Jesus was idk gathering body fluids from people who are younger. There were all these mystery schools n shit like the eleusinian mysteries, idk what Jesus was doing, maybe like the alawis he was showing people, while they are still here, by them getting bit by snakes and the fluid was an antidote, how to begin to navigate imaginationland. Also, if CIA guy is right, that kinda explains how there is normal Jesus and Gnostic Jesus, but idk. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dY-roDpHWI&t=2986s&pp=ygUNYW1tb24gaGlsbG1hbg%3D%3D
>>42921684But also by including Zeus we would need to square that with the Anunakis and aliens and stuff. If we wanted to have a single understanding of things so idk that's actually the part of all this that I'm kinda lost on. Aliens are lots of things including there is a place called Agartha, the Nazis knew about it, and um there's people down there n shit. Idk. Also there is underwater bases. I think they are reptilians but idk. One is in the mariana trench.
>glowie shitting up the thread and spamming derail slop.It was fun while it lasted.
>>42921449also here is the epstein driver thread, and the next day maxwell gets arrested.this obviously ties in a lot. so it seems, they don't just worship saturn, but also moloch. Idk.https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/25409798/
>>42921449okay I found the CIA guy threads who is talking about Chronos and Zeushttps://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/27045730/#q27049152
>>42921907btw it's like 16 threads so here's a screenshot
>>42921914fuck
also here is the 2006 prophecy, it's a shame bc it might be the biggest proof that this world is fucked but people just dismissed it, but it's real, I saw it in 2012 like I said and it doesn't go against what the other guy in the thread said at all, and both say war is coming so it sucks that i knew about bitcoin but got tricked out of my apartment by that evil bitch 12 years ago holy fuck
>glowie still flooding the thread with disinfo and misdirection graphomania to confuse the schizoaffectives instead of using pure literary facts.Funny how the shitting up of the thread started when the Talmud was brought up.
>>42921508Elaborate on le ineffable magic soul slop ball.
If Saturn is the chief Demiurge (Yaldabaoth), and Sophia created him, then in Astrotheology, Saturn was created by the condensation or down-pouring of cosmic light passing through the Eighth Sphere (the Stars) into the lower material void (Kenoma).The Ophites taught that a "drop of light" or excess spiritual energy slipped from the higher spiritual realm down through Sophia’s realm (the stars) into the chaotic, unformed elements below.As this raw divine energy condensed into the physical universe, the very first and highest planetary boundary it formed was Saturn. Because Saturn takes the longest to orbit the sun among the visible planets (nearly 30 years), ancient astronomers viewed it as the outermost ring, the gatekeeper of the physical world, and the master of Time (Chronos/Saturn).Therefore, Sophia (the star-realm) is the "mother" because the planets are physically and energetically contained inside her sphere. Saturn is her first-born child because it occupies the highest, outermost planetary orbit directly adjacent to her starry realm.Now if we step back one layer further we ask, if Sophia (the stars) birthed Saturn (the outer planet), what birthed Sophia?In astrotheology, Sophia was emanated by the Monad (the ultimate, unmanifested source of all existence) through pairs of cosmic principles called Aeons. Her direct "parents" are typically described as Depth (Bythos) and Silence (Sige) which astrotheologically represent the infinite, dark, unmanifested void that existed before light, stars, and physical matter were brought into being.
>>42922000how exactly do you think I'm a glowie, the very first post I posted was about how masons are really saturnists/kabaalists. you think I'm some sort of saturnist bc I think ur acting retarded
>>42922273This painting illustrates perfectly the down-pouring of cosmic light passing through the Eighth Sphere (the Stars) into the lower material void (Kenoma).The bright, pastel-pink circle at the very top represents the Pleroma, the realm of pure spirit. It contains the Greek letters A (Alpha) and Ω (Omega), symbolizing the infinite source, the Monad, from which all things emanated.Notice how a sharp, white triangle of light penetrates downward out of that divine circle. In Gnosticism, this is Sophia's drop of light casting itself down into the dark universe. The Latin phrase written inside the beam, FIAT LUX ("Let there be light"), can be viewed in the Gnostic sense as the exact moment spiritual energy is forced down into physical limitation.Everything below the pink circle is pitch-black darkness, surrounded by churning water and chaotic, burning flames. This dark space is the Kenoma, the cold, unformed, material void.At the center of the Kenoma sits a dark, heavy, multi-layered cone or sphere. Look at how the funnel of light pierces directly into the mouth of this dark shape.Astrotheologically, this central cone is the flawed material universe being built. The distinct, dark concentric rings winding around it perfectly match the ancient view of the seven planetary spheres (the Hebdomad), with the top ring being the outer boundary, Saturn.
>>42922456In the beginning, the absolute divine source (the Monad) exists as an infinite, unmanifested point of conscious light. To experience itself, it projects its awareness outward in all directions. (kinda like the snowflake in picrel)This equal outward projection creates a perfect sphere, the original boundary of the Pleroma.The light reflects off this boundary, creating a series of overlapping spheres. In sacred geometry, this progressive splitting and overlapping of light spheres forms the Vesica Piscis, then the Seed of Life, and finally the Flower of Life.As the cosmic light continues to pour outward and cool, it travels through the Ogdoad (Sophia’s realm of the fixed stars). Here, the fluid, organic curves of the Flower of Life begin to structure themselves.At the center of this pattern emerges a specific arrangement of 13 overlapping spheres known as the Fruit of Life. These 13 circles represent the holographic map of the cosmos: one central sun/source surrounded by the 12 zodiacal forces.When you take the 13 spheres of the Fruit of Life and draw straight lines connecting the exact center of every single circle to every other circle, the fluid circles vanish, and a sharp, hyper-complex geometric matrix appears. This is Metatron’s Cube.By introducing straight lines, the universe shifts from spirit (curved lines) to intellect and structure (straight lines). Metatron’s Cube acts as a cosmic lattice or grid. It is the skeletal system of the Kenoma.Our universe is essentially a three-dimensional holographic shadow cast by higher-dimensional geometry. Pure light from the Pleroma streams through the lens of Sophia (the stars), passes through the geometric filter of Metatron's Cube, and splits into the five elemental shapes/platonic solids. The Demiurge/Saturn uses this rigid geometric grid to lock those frozen light particles into place, forming the physical matrix we live in today.
>>42922574In Gnostic astrotheology, the Demiurge (Saturn/Yaldabaoth) does not create true life; he is an architect who mimics divine structures using cold mathematics. He uses the rigid grid of Metatron’s Cube as a literal cosmic particle accelerator and containment matrix to trap the fluid light particles of the Pleroma.Pure divine light is fluid, continuous, and formless. To trap it, Saturn must force it to stop moving.By projecting the straight lines of Metatron's Cube across the void, he creates vectors (directional tracks).When the fluid light hits these intersections, it bounces back and forth, interfering with itself. This creates standing waves, light that vibrates intensely in one fixed spot rather than flowing freely.The Demiurge assigns his seven planetary Archons to guard the tracks of Metatron's Cube. Together, they use the five Platonic Solids hidden inside the cube as geometric molds or filters. As the standing waves of light pass through these planetary spheres, they are compressed into the five distinct elements.The light is squeezed until it snaps into the sharp angles of the Tetrahedron (Fire), Octahedron (Air), Icosahedron (Water), and Dodecahedron (Aether).Finally, Saturn applies the ultimate pressure, locking the particles into the Hexahedron (the Cube). The Cube represents the Earth elements absolute density, gravity, and immobility.At this subatomic level, what we call a "solid particle" (like an atom or a molecule) is actually just a photon of divine light trapped in a perpetual, high-speed geometric loop inside a tiny cubic grid.Matter alone is not enough to keep the soul trapped; the Demiurge (Saturn) needs a mechanism to prevent the light from escaping back to the Pleroma. He achieves this through Linear Time (Chronos).
>>42922606Saturn sits at the outermost heavenly sphere, turning the entire cosmic machine. Because the planetary spheres are nested inside the Platonic solids (as Kepler later noted), Saturn's rotation turns the entire geometric grid like a massive set of gears.This grinding of the geometric matrix creates the illusion of past, present, and future.By forcing the trapped light particles to constantly decay and renew within this clockwork loop, Saturn creates a closed loop of cause and effect (Karma/Fate).We do not live in a world of solid matter. We live in a three-dimensional holographic matrix where pure spirit has been slowed down, frozen into geometric shapes by Metatron's Cube, and locked into place by the gravitational, time-binding laws of Saturn. The physical walls around you, and even the chemical molecules making up your physical body, are the literal bars of this geometric prison.The Ophite Gnostics believed that because our human bodies are made of this frozen Saturnian geometry, we can use vibrational sounds, vowels, and secret seals to shatter the geometric lock.Escaping the planetary spheres and breaking the loop of cause and effect required acquiring Gnosis and reciting specific passwords to the ruling Archons of the seven spheres, Adonaios (Moon), Eloaios (Mercury), Oraiog (Venus), Astaphaio (Sun), Sabaoth (Mars), Thauthabaoth (Jupiter), and Yaldabaoth (Saturn). While ascending after death, the soul used these secret formulas and divine declarations to unlock each gate. In life, practitioners worked to break free by engaging in spiritual de-conditioning to detach from worldly desires, and by using vocal intonation of the seven Greek vowels to disrupt the geometric grid of the material matrix and return to the Pleroma.If i remember correctly the explicit formulas used by the ascending soul were preserved by a 3rd-century book (Contra Celsum, Book VI) of Church Father Origen.
>>42922668When the soul ascended after death, it encountered each planetary gatekeeper (Archon). To pass, the soul had to produce a specific vocal declaration that stripped the Archon of its authority by proving the soul possessed Gnosis, the realization that it came from the higher light and was superior to the material rulers.The ascending soul recited the formulas in reverse order, starting from the lowest planetary sphere up to the outer gate of Saturn:To the Gate of the Moon (Adonaios/Iao, Often envisioned as a ram or brilliant lord) was said: "O first and seventh, born to rule with power, Adonaios.. I am a vessel pure, a drop of light from the Mother [Sophia]. Acknowledge your origin and let me pass."To the Gate of Mercury (Eloaios, Associated with a bull or an amphibious creature) was said: "Eloaios, ruler of the second gate, I am a spirit awakened. I bear no allegiance to your cosmic laws, for my spark belongs to the Primeval Father. Stand aside."To the Gate of Venus (Oraiog, A dragon or a spirit governing desire and illusion) was said: "Oraiog, master of the web of desire, your illusions hold no power over me. I have seen through the veil of your beauty. I pass through you untouched."To the Gate of the Sun (Astaphaio, An eagle or a blinding lord of arrogance) was said: "Astaphaio, lord of the third gate, sender of blazing fire! I am a son of the Light, greater than your sun. Your heat cannot burn the eternal spark. Open the path."To the Gate of Mars (Sabaoth, A bear-faced or warrior entity representing wrath and conflict.) was said: "Sabaoth, ruler of the fifth zone, master of wars and law! I call upon your supreme name, but I do not bow to your command. I am a citizen of the Pleroma, returning home."cont.
>>42922749To the Gate of Jupiter (Thauthabaoth, A dog-headed or bear-faced ruler representing earthly wealth and tyranny) was said: "Thauthabaoth, warden of the sixth ring, I pass by you. My soul is untied from the greed and constraints of your domain. I am free from your judgments."And finally, to the Gate of Saturn (Yaldabaoth / the Demiurge, The lion-faced serpent, the chief architect of the rigid matrix) was said: "O Yaldabaoth, first and highest ruler of the physical cosmos! I am a perfect work of the True Light, an offspring of the Mother Sophia. You are an ignorant god, blind to the worlds above you. I have no debt to pay to your matrix. My destiny lies in the Pleroma. By the white chrism of the Tree of Life, open the final gate!"
>>42922755According to Ophite and Sethian teachings, breaking the clockwork cycle of reincarnation (Heimarmene, or cosmic fate) was not just about memorizing these phrases. The formulas were symbols of an internal transformation. To truly escape the matrix, a Gnostic had to achieve three things during earthly life: 1. Deprive the Archons of Food: The Archons fuel the matrix using human emotional reactivity fear, guilt, lust, and wrath. By practicing extreme detachment and mastering their emotions, Gnostics "de-energized" the planetary vices within themselves. If a soul had no anger, Mars had no hold over it; if it had no material greed, Jupiter had no leverage.2. The Ritual Seal (The White Chrism): Initiates underwent a ritual anointing symbolizing spiritual rebirth. This chrism acted as a "spiritual passport," a vibrational shield marking the soul as property of the divine Pleroma, making it invisible to the lower traps of the Demiurge.3. The Seven Vowels: Gnostics believed the matrix was held together by a geometric, harmonic frequency (the music of the spheres). Practitioners would systematically intone the seven Greek vowels (Α, Ε, Η, Ι, Ο, Υ, Ω), matching each vowel to one of the seven planetary spheres. Resonating these sounds in a specific sequence was believed to create a dissonant frequency that temporarily shattered the geometric grid of Saturn around their consciousness, allowing their spirit to slip through the cracks of time and space.
>>42921283That's pretty interesting thank you for the information, I will look it up further. Btw if you are not a gnostic could you please tell me about your beliefs? What's your perspective?
>>42922861>Btw if you are not a gnostic could you please tell me about your beliefs?I have no fixed be-LIE-fs, belief is the death of intelligence, limiting yourself to one point of view in the era of information is quite ignorant IMO.>What's your perspective?Astrotheology and Science.
>>42917460I always wonder why the Galactic Federation choose Saturn as their HQ
>>42923184Do you believe there are benevolent forces out there? Or just pure indiference?
I think "God" should be synonymous with "Creator" regardless of how you paint the picture.>SaturnIf you're a materialist, I guess maybe you think Earth is the only plane of existence that you have available or can achieve or will ever sustain and that's okay, but for those of us who aren't, not meaning to speak for them of course, it seems there's something after whatever Death is. Well, anon, Saturn governs Death, Decay and Time. Traditionally, Saturn is the reason for the physical realm, Malkuth, the cycle of Samsara and our collective habitation of the human vessels.If you think Saturn created the material world and all you are is a material being, I suppose for you Saturn should be the same as "God", but personally, I'm just counting Saturn as the referee of how I handle the body I currently inhabit.
>>42917460Honestly it is kind of tragic that gnostics are still taken seriously because their approach based on the assumption that matter is evil is hostile to understanding the Universe. Like, we have black holes, neutron stars, quasars and niggas still obsess over a gas giant though there many more planets worth of attention. The gnostic demiurge is an adulterated version of the one in platonic philosophy, the one which mediated the translation of ideals into forms. Y'know, even the structure of the solar system is a consequence of its formation under the laws of physics, gas giants being farther from the Sun, telluric planets being closer and all.
>>42922456Okay so according to this variant of gnostic cosmogony, Stars are divine, but the Sun is attributed to an archon called Astaphaios... They could do better than this for fuck's sake, by that time Aristarchus or Hipparchus came up with the idea that stars could be other distant suns, and our sun is, indeed, a star, but it seems that gnosticism comes in a package with geocentrism
