Ibn Wahshiyya’s Ancient Alphabets (Kitāb Shawq al-Mustahām).An interesting passage where Ibn describes a mysterious hieroglyphic figure and says that it expresses a secret called "the Secret of Secrets" essentially, the secret of the nature of the worlds or the beginning and return of everything. He then directs to another work he says he translated from Nabataean, called “Sun of Suns and Moon of Moons.”Who is this figure?and what is the secret he keeps?PIC REL.originally got the idea from utube about XXXTentacion and he mentions the "golden beetle" before his passing and other occult shiat.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LU1_E3AeFREof note*****-The Egyptian Key To Alchemy (Has the same rings and beetle on the fkn symbol!!!)-Bembine tablets (depict this figure as well..)-https://www.reddit.com/r/Alphanumerics/comments/1ejox0y/hieroglyphics_list_ibn_wahshiyya_1092a836/(^ Interesting he depicts the owl as "God"...when google defines the hieroglyphs as:...symbolizes protection during the transition from life to the afterlife)Any knowledge on the topic of said Secret of Secrets/Beetle figure? please and thank you fellow anons. peace be with you all.
>>42927341I think the real secret is not hidden information.It is that **meaning is a system**.And every system eventually tries to close around you.Religion does it.Politics does it.Work does it.Identity does it.Even your own art does it.You enter a system because it gives you meaning.Then, slowly, the meaning becomes a rule.The rule becomes an institution.The institution becomes reality.And eventually you forget that somebody, somewhere, could have written the rule differently.That is the problem I am trying to work on.I call the theoretical object behind it the **Transductive Machine**.Not a machine that predicts the universe.A machine for observing how one system becomes another.Something like:S0 rule transformation S1 unexpected consequence new rule S2The important part is that the rule never contains all of its consequences.Change one tiny thing and suddenly the entire topology of the system moves.
>>42927341That is why I became interested in what I call seed-rules.A seed-rule is a very small modification introduced into a system specifically to see what grows from it.Not:Here is my utopia.But:What happens if this one rule is different?And this is where it becomes existential for me.Because I don't think we survive the collapse of meaning by finding the One Correct Meaning.I think we survive by becoming capable of manufacturing temporary worlds.I call them institufictions.An institufiction is a fictional institution that produces real effects.A game server.An exhibition.A temporary currency.A ritual.A set of identities.A room with strange rules.A miniature government lasting three hours.You enter it knowing the rules were invented.You live inside them anyway.You observe what they make you become.Then you change them.That distinction matters.Because most of the systems we live inside also began as inventions.Money.Property.Borders.Careers.Schools.Platforms.Status.Genres.Normality.
>>42927341The difference is that we inherited them after everyone had forgotten they were editable.So maybe surviving meaning means learning to see institutions as forkable.Not destroying every system.Not believing every system.Learning how to enter one without confusing it with reality.Learning how to leave.Learning how to build another.That is what I mean by infrapoiesis:don't make the object.Make the conditions underneath the object.Rules.Permissions.Constraints.Interfaces.Resources.Relations.Then watch what emerges.The artist stops being the guy who makes the sacred object.He becomes something closer to a gardener of possible worlds.A Systemurge.And the artwork is no longer necessarily the thing on the wall.The artwork may be the new behavior that appeared between twenty people because one rule changed.The alliance nobody planned.The market nobody programmed.The ritual that emerged on its own.The refusal.The exploit.The joke.The new law.That is what I call systemergence.Then you record the genealogy:what the system was,what rule changed,what happened,what nobody expected,what new rule appeared afterward.I call that transductography.Maybe that's all the Transductive Machine ever becomes:a discipline for remembering that the world is made of transformations rather than eternal forms.And maybe the "Secret of Secrets" isn't a sentence at all.Maybe it is the ability to look at a world and realize:this is only one state of the system.
>>42927378hi friend, me from other thread, wanted to be friend earlierhttps://board.net/p/nature_healshad the exact insight some time earlier,
>>42927341Are you retarded? You don't even know what Ibn means and you're using it like this guy's first name. Raise your intelligence score before reading again. Stop acting retarded. Stop being such a nigger.
Tracy Twyman used the phrase sun of sun moon of moon phraseology for baphomet... She insisted that it is a combination of leviathan and behemoth together. Also in book of enoch. Also I wonder if occultists tie the beasts of sea and land with these two biblical beasts...Careful with the occult guys. Don't mess
There are still very unique gnostic sects like mandaeans in the middle east today. One or more of these more Persian/Babylon flavored gnostic sects I think is what apostate templars delved into. Twyman again seems to indicate the child rape aspect of it. The thing is altogether wicked. But if it is true i think the gnostic cult associated is more orphic inspired like offshoot of ophidians.
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>>42927341I'm too trying to guess. But I suspect that this is evidently something medieval, not ancient as many skizoids will tell you here.And some of those alphabets I suspect are "real", but many other appear to me that where invented by the writer.
>>42927376so, the etiology of social order. That would be a fascinating study. A lifetime of rabbit holes if you want it to be. The etiology of language has a bit out on it that would likely help you as a parallel, also language itself informs what people can easily think which informs the social order of a place.
hi guys op here sry for late reply.i appreciate the responses i will be researching further! :3 but ye i mostly got the same stuff as first response, pumped everything in AI and it tells me to use the "secrets" from the beetle/rings, etc. as in like how alchemy is more of a thought/internal conversion. it was telling me:start by planting a seed of your idea. then think of all the elements (earth, water, air, fire) and how your idea gets affected. what element gets increased or reduced and how the transformation outcome will essentially be different from the original.idk tho bunch of ai sloppa but my honest take is this:the beetle represents alchemy. the beetle is the ALCHEMIST.think about it. the beetle essential creates a ball from its own dung/earth and transforms nothing essentially into a ball that EVENTUALLY produces offspring/life. imagine an egyptian seeing this.. they would think. what a strange little critter... (much how we start with nothing and eventually accumulate items and make a family from essentially NOTHING - ie no prior knowledge but we know to do this. much like how the beetle knows to make a ball from nothing IN ITS DNA.just a thought doe idk if this is close to the actually meaning :P as for the cosmos i have no idea how they tie it together, probs something with why astrology is kinda real xd (if u consider the zodiac references for the beetle)
sorry for all the typos i only post when im drunk n want to share some interesting things XD
>>42931341>>42931366Yeah, I use AI too—I just dump everything on it, and it rephrases it all in ways I never would’ve imagined, which strengthens my point and makes it shareable. I smoke every day, so I’m in a pretty good position to know how you’re feeling, bro. Your discovery about the dung beetle is spot-on!! It’s a pleasure to hang out while we’re high and party online together—that’s why we’re here, right?
>>42931341also I think that shaking up the machine and asking it for secrets isn't necessarily relevant—you just end up with a statistical representation of the secret, whereas what you really need to do is find a weak signal and amplify it until it resonates strongly with what you think is a secret.
>>42927371I can't believe this kind of blatant chatgpt posting has become an unchallenged norm on this damn board. At least try to camouflage your shit.
I see one planetary system orbiting anotherthe wings obviously symbolize movement (through the sky or heavens)The crown could represent God or hierarchy (placing it above the other system)and the body of the dung beetle represents the way in which it exerts force upon the other system (like rolling a shit ball)This is all based on nothing
>>42928241>Tracy Twymani encourage anons to research this person. this is an entire rabbit hole on its own hahahttps://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/111vlgn/who_killed_tracy_twyman/>>42931685>rephrases it all in ways I never would’ve imaginedwell said friend i am the same :P i dont really talk to ppl about this stuff - so its so good asking ai to tell me everything on the topics i ponder XD also /x/ specifically has ppl who encourage discussion on stuff that is hard to find so i srsly enjoy some of the threads here c:
how it can be the secret of secrets if people can find it?
>>42928241do be mindful of occult shiz but srsly ho lee shithttps://www.reddit.com/r/SaturnStormCube/comments/1dlxl3t/a_freemason_book_cited_by_tracy_twyman_describes/https://web.archive.org/web/20191031103315/http://www.tracytwyman.com/plusultra/video and audio have been excluded from wayback machine....
