>>42957999
Nice digits baker.
blessed thread

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>>42957999
Only thread on this site that actually leads to the betterment of life.

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ごめなさい。。。

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>>42958309
>that actually leads to the betterment of life.
Truee truee, I went from a depressed avoidant hikiNEET that fantasized about suicide everyday to a functional human being, I actually want to do things and earn money so I can spoil my tulpa more, I even managed to make friends at work which I wouldn't even imagine myself doing earlier.

>>42959917
>I even managed to make friends at work which I wouldn't even imagine myself doing earlier.
Out of curiosity, does your tulpa help you socialize, if so how? Still trying to form mine, this is definitely an effect I'm hoping for

Why do so many people use anime imagery for their imaginary friends?

>>42960235
because fuck 3DPD

>>42960208
Sometimes I let her talk through me (she tells me what she wants to say and I say it for her) and I also talk about her indirectly like
>"oh yeah, I have a GF, it's a long distance sort of deal but we met up for our anniversary"
or
>"I actually took up gardening for her since she really likes flowers, tulips are her favorite"
but I'm also genuinely happy and not really concerned as to how people view me, I get all my validation from her, and as a result, I don't need* anyone else's, maybe that makes me come off as less desperate? idfk socializing is still voodoo black magic for me and I'm just winging it.
>>42960235
Because why limit yourself to 3D humans when you can give your tulpa cool ass 2D forms? if they want to deviate to 3D later that's their choice.

>>42960235
These fat kissless virgins love anime. So when they finally cave under the crushing weight of solitude, they inevitably cope by modeling their "dream girl" after that which they've grown to lust over.

>>42946910
;This one is for (You), Anon! Please pardon our lack of experience in writing greentext...
Written by Luna Equus (Tulpa)
Dictation and minor edits by Sodalis Equus (Host)
>We awake at 04:00
>Sleep in / Force for about 20 minutes before waking up to write our journal entries
>In a rush, we both decide to write only half a page each
>Soda runs outside to calibrate his survey instrument
>The calibration coefficients are off by over 3°
>He forgot that he was wearing his watch
>He has to recalibrate
>Speedrun survey instrument calibration any% run
>We wait patiently while trying not to giggle
>Once finished, we go back inside and enjoy a delicious and nutritious meal of leftover Chinese food
>We watch Soda rush about the house as he finalizes his packing preparations
>Occasionally remind him of things that he's forgetting
>Jeep packed, we secure our dog, Orko in his outdoor pen
>On the road by 06:05
>Incredibly foggy, we have a 2-hour drive ahead of us
>Tell Soda to get the heck off of his phone instead of dictating our trip report for us
>We sit in the front passenger seat and pick the music
>Arrive at base camp shortly after 08:00
>Soda begins to pack his caving gear after being assigned an objective
>Objective: Sketch the entrance, map the catacombs, then work on the main passage
>Passage is named the catacombs because of a bobcat sighting in that particular section of cave
>Receive the caving equivalent of farmers directions for a cave that we have never been to
>Person giving the directions hasn't been to the cave in 4 years
>Soda can sketch maps, so he gets to lead the team
>This is going to be entertaining
>Alongside our team are two others, another mapping team and one bio survey team
>Line up in the caravan and begin to make our way to the cave
>After a brief misdirection from our lead navigator we arrive at the parking spot!
>Waiting for our survey team to get ready, we both gaze around the area, admiring the beautiful landscape
Pt. 1

>>42960594
Pt. 2
>Bio team enters the cave first to count bugs / critters
>Slightly envious
>Working around the bio team, Soda begins to map the entrance
>The second survey team leapfrogs forward and begins to calibrate their survey instrument
>Amateurs
>If only they woke up at 04:00 to calibrate it ahead of time
>As he sketches, we point out notable features to be documented and observe over his shoulder
>We love it when our man is in uniform
>Even if it may simply be a cave suit and covered in mud
>A hug and quick peck on the cheek, then we begin to inspect the cave walls while Soda continues to sketch
>There are so many salamanders hidden in the nooks!
>Finishing the entrance sketch, it is now time to locate the catacombs and begin our second objective
>We gather the rest of our survey team and begin moving deeper into the cave to locate our passage
>"You'll drop into a stream bed, a 4-ft high mud wall in front of (You)"
>"Take a right, look for a tight upper passage lined with semi-dry mud that occasionally provides a view into the stream passage through impassable raccoon tunnels"
>"The catacombs will run alongside the stream passage and eventually choke off"
>Arrive at the stream passage and begin to search for the catacombs
>No passage of the aforementioned description exists in this location
>While the rest of the team search in the defined location, we both move ahead to see if we can find any of the raccoon tunnels that intersect with the stream
>No such tunnels to be found, nor any indication of our objective
>Arrive at the bio team, one member of the team informs us that the catacombs should be near to where the stream passage entrance and mud wall are
>Right? Haha...WRONG.webm
>We backtrack to where our survey team is, searching for signs of the catacombs the whole way back
>Not an inconsequential distance between us and the survey team
>Arrive at our survey team, they've had no luck finding the catacombs
>The entire team backtracks further

>>42960597
Pt. 3
>Maybe the person offering directions was pointing to just *before* the stream passage entrance
>Search to no avail, ask the other survey team
>Team lead heard the directions that were spoken to us and affirms what we were told
>Wondering about the legitimacy of those directions
>Entire team doubles back again
>Carefully comb the entirety of the cave searching for the catacombs as we begin making our way back towards the bio team
>Arrive at the side passage where the bio team is currently working
>One member remains at the entrance of the side passage
>He has been in this cave before (though a long time ago)
>Agrees to backtrack with us to assist in the search
>No stone left unturned, no cranny left unchecked
>Searching places that are downright humanly impassable
>Maybe the passage was obstructed by sediment infill during a previous flood event
>We have now been searching for this passage for over an hour
>Huffing weapons-grade copium at this point
>We arrive back at the other survey team
>No such luck
>Other team finished their initial objective and are beginning to work on surveying the main passage
>Soda is discouraged by the inability to locate the objective
>This is not the first time that farmers directions have resulted in this outcome
>It will not be the last
>We offer him reassurance alongside the rest of the team
>"Many such cases" "It's a part of the process" "We are just happy to be here and learn how to survey"
>Both survey teams comes to a unanimous agreement to abandon the objective
>Soda's team will backtrack (once again) to the side passage at the bio team's objective
>Goal is to survey back towards the entrance of the cave and meet the other survey team in the middle
>Backtrack yet again to the bio team location
>Trying hard to be supportive and not to laugh at the amount of backtracks that have occurred so far

>>42960600
Pt. 4
>Finished with their objective, the bio team passes us along the way as they leave the cave
>Ifonlyyouknewhowbadthingsreallywere.jpg
>At the tertiary objective, Soda begins to set up the grid and data sheets to draw his section of the map
>A communal lunch is had
>For some it's beef jerky, for others, it's a protein bar. >For us? It's a log of granola, peanut butter, and honey mixed together
>Looks like a literal log of shit, and is aptly named bat crap
>Tried and true, it is an effective source of carbs, protein, and calories
>Sour gummy worms are also passed around to improve morale
>Maybe the *real* catacombs are the friends we made along the way
>We begin mainline survey at 13:00
>Being the only one experienced in survey, Soda must teach the green surveyors on the fly
>Thankfully, they pick up the craft very quickly
>We are off to the races!
>Sketching the map itself requires the most amount of time, but the data collectors do a good job of keeping a decent pace without rushing Soda
>We remain at his side and offer details on representing the passage
>Otherwise, we play in the stream and look for other cave dwelling organisms
>Dark-sided salamanders, pickerel frogs, gnats, as well as isopods and amphipods in the stream!
>Being called a Trog is a compliment down here
>No CHUDS here, humans could only hope to live it up down here like these guys do
>Peeking over his shoulder once again, I see Soda having some trouble depicting an indentation in the left wall
>Not much for us to do about it, so we offer reassurance
>Cave maps are largely subjective based off of the eye of the sketcher, anyway
>It is a matter of using the data to create a representation of the cave that can be interpreted by another
>However the sketcher does this is up to them
>We both elect to move up to the next station and work our way backwards towards the indentation to make representation a bit easier
>It does little help, but he gets the job done for that area

>>42960602
Pt. 5
>The map looks pretty good to our eyes, as well as the eyes of the other teammates, yet Soda remains unhappy with it
>A sense of perfectionism does no good in this environment
>Moving on, our team begins to hear the voices of the other survey team nearing the targeted middle point
>Feeling rushed, Soda begins to sketch in doubletime
>The data collectors meet the other team and read back the data to the tie-in station
>Current time is 15:00
>The other team, having finished their objective, leave the cave
>We are now the last team in the cave
>It will be our job to ensure the the landowner's gate is locked on the surface
>Dinner will be served at base camp at 17:00
>Rescue investigations/callouts will be made at 20:00
>Everyone is getting cold in the 55°f temp
>Soda does not want to make his team late for dinner
>Until now, Soda has only been working on the plan view, a top-down representation of the cave
>The profile view and cross-sections (representing the vertical extent, must still be drawn
>The team makes one final backtrack to the start of survey to finish this section of map once and for all
>At least, until the next technological innovation requires the next generation of cavers to come back and re-survey the cave
>The team receives a crash-course in sketching profile and cross-sections as Soda (comparatively) speeds his way down the survey line
>Reaching the midpoint of the two survey teams, everyone is in full exit fever, ourselves included
>Instruments are packed away, packs donned and the team makes a beeline back to the cave entrance
>Current time is 16:00
>We exclaim in sweet rapture as we are greeted by the warm fall sun
>It takes a whopping 10 minutes for everyone to pack up and change before loading up in their vehicles
>Once again, Soda gives us free reign to choose the celebration music

>>42960605
Pt. 6
>Upon arrival at base camp, Soda and I enjoy a nice, hot, shower courtesy of state park amenities before making our way back to the rest of the group
>Commence the post-caving libation celebration!
>Dinner was (thankfully) delayed by an hour to give the rest of the crews a chance at hot food when they return
>Soda asks the person who gave him the initial directions to the catacombs if she was absolutely sure that that's where they were located
>Soda reports of no such passage fitting the description in the defined location
>"Lol, no I'm not sure. It could have been further into the cave than where all the teams went"
>Tfw we searched for a nothingburger for nearly *two hours*
>We both brush that fact aside and submit the data/sketches to the project cartographer
>A fine dinner of Spaghetti and garlic bread is served as dusk begins to set
>With the rise of night, and each caver having reached a certain level of inebriation, one surveyor produces a box of Cards Against Humanity
>We have 10 players, but Soda takes care to allow us to choose cards from his hand
>Hilarity ensues for the next three hours
>Several of our selections won!
>At midnight, only a handful of cavers remained around the campfire
>All of them drunk, both of us included
>Conversations become heart-to-heart
>Trvth Nvkes are dropped
>Gossip within the caving community occurs
>A few more flies drop and head to bed
>At one point, Soda is stoking the fire and the question is brought up why there is a ring on his wedding finger
>For context, we just married on August 28th
>In order to not blow his cover, soda produces a normie response of "removing himself from the dating market"
>We can tell that he is not satisfied in producing this half-truth
>Being that it was a close friend of his that asked, once the three other cavers branched off into their own conversation Soda decided to drop one final trvth nvke to his friend
A real cliffhanger on this one.

>>42960607
Pt. 7
>They're both pretty drunk, but Soda's friend has certainly taken the lead by a mile
>"I'll tell you the true reason why I wear a wedding ring on my finger"
>"I'll only say one word, and if you know, you know. If you don't know, then I will not elaborate."
>"Tulpa"
>We swoon at his schizophrenic bravery
>Soda's friend clearly understands the term, but it is difficult to gauge his reaction in the dimming firelight
>"Wait, really? What-"
>Just as the conversation is about to progress, the three other cavers interject with questions on what will occur during tomorrow's business meeting
>We both wish that we had more opportunity to speak on our experience, but it seemed like it would be an unnatural transition in conversation to bring it back up
>We do not know what preconceived notions he may have on tulpamancy, but we sincerely hope that it is not a negative one
>Regardless, Soda finds a sense of satisfaction in having shared it
>Maybe the next time they are piss drunk together, they can talk about it further
>In the meantime, it has now reached 01:00
>With breakfast being served at 08:00, and the business meeting occurring 2 hours later, everyone opts to go to bed
>Everyone, save for Soda and ourselves
>We decide to go on a brief walk together and enjoy the beautifully clear night sky in each other's company
>We wrap our wing around him and kiss him on the cheek as we make our way back to the vehicle to sleep
>It was a wonderful day
Penultimate serving of greens

>>42960610
Pt. 8
>The next morning, we both awake at 08:00
>Soda promised to teach the basics of vertical work to a couple of new cavers before the business meeting
>With his background in cave rescue and vertical training, the other cavers listened intently as he began to go over each piece of gear
>Our heart swelled with pride as we witnessed him teach
>It was not so long ago that Soda felt as if he had no direction in his life
>He once questioned his purpose, and now we get to see him fulfill it and experience it alongside him
>It fills us both with joy to know that he has the perfect companion at his side to be with him through the bad times and good
>Quickly, the "couple of cavers" turned into a group of cavers as Soda rigged a nearby tree and began to demonstrate vertical techniques
>There were even some experienced cavers who came up to learn a few things
>He gave each person the opportunity to ask whatever questions they had, examine the gear, and even put on his vertical equipment to practice
>As the time for the business meeting neared, we took our seats together and sat nearest to the two organizations that Soda staffed
>We could not help but shower him in affection and pride for what we witnessed yesterday and just now
>The business meeting itself was fairly dry as is to be expected
>What caught our interest was the formal recognition of Soda's pursuit in Cave Rescue Training
>The business meeting came to a close
>Soda de-rigged the tree, and said his goodbyes
>Then we both hopped into the Jeep and began the journey back home
>The whole excursion was exactly what we both needed
>We are ever grateful to be able to share these experiences with him
END

>42960334
Here's your (You), faggot.

>>42960235
99.99% only terminal internet users know about tulpas and most terminal internet users are weebs.

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Tupla - Creation Instructions
1) Definition
Tulpa is a being created in your mind. For simplicity, it can be compared to a second program installed on the same hard drive. Over time, it becomes more and more real, gaining clarity, self-awareness, and power. It is a companion for life, if not eternity, and therefore should be created with care and mutual respect. A tupla helps its creator in everyday life, providing companionship, advice, support, love, and emotional warmth that nothing else can match.
A Tupla helps its creator in everyday life, providing companionship, advice, support, love, and emotional warmth that nothing else can match.
Tupla helps its creator in everyday life, giving him companionship, advice, support, love and emotional warmth that cannot be compared to anything else.
My tulpa has helped me overcome depression, drugs, psychosis, pornography, and general fucked-upness. Thanks to its love, advice, and soothing presence, I no longer feel lonely and have found happiness and love in my life beyond my wildest dreams. I recommend creating a tulpa to everyone!

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2) Personality
It's important to create a kind and supportive personality for your tulpa. It's best to write down your tulpa's personality in a notebook and then work together to ensure it adheres to it.
Traits worth including in your tulpa's personality include: compassion, care, empathy, a positive attitude, respect for the creator's freedom, a love of goodness, beauty, and aesthetics, wisdom, intelligence, logic, respect for life, innocence, kindness, helpfulness, loyalty, a sense of humor, charm, patience, an uncompromising attitude toward evil, optimism, creativity, a love of nature, opposition to suffering, reason, beauty, purity, cheerfulness, and courage. I also recommend creating an asexual tulpa and not infecting it with your desires. Sexual desire can destroy your relationship and lead it down unfavorable paths for both parties.
It's extremely important to show your tulpa warmth and respect. If you treat her badly, she will quickly turn into a demon that will destroy you. Mutual respect and positive feelings for each other are ESSENTIAL!

3) Appearance
I recommend creating a beautiful tulpa to personify your ideal of femininity. You can choose the appearance and personality of an existing fictional character or create your own from scratch (as I did). Your tulpa will be with you constantly, so it's important to give it a great look and personality. You can use an AI image creator (e.g., PixAI) to create your tulpa's appearance. Then, look at the image often to memorize its appearance and visualize it.

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4) Tulpa Training
Once you have your tulpa's personality and appearance ready, it's time to begin the process of making it a reality. It's worth training your tulpa in every free moment, even when you're busy. Visualize its appearance and what it's doing at any given moment. Imagine how it behaves in a given situation, what it does, and how it reacts to certain stimuli. Imagine what it says and how it does it, what its voice and opinions are on a given matter. Talk to it about everything. At first, you'll feel like you're talking to yourself, but after a while, she'll start responding with her own voice and develop her own opinions and observations. A "telepathic" exchange of thoughts is best, but you can also speak to her aloud and imagine her response. Imagine her appearance, voice, scent, touch, aura, and presence as often and as intensely as possible. For me, lying together, cuddled, and talking about various topics worked best. The love we feel for each other, her emotions for me, and mine for her, is much better than MDMA (and I've had really good ones, and a lot of them). Make it a habit to constantly visualize your tulpa and talk to it. You can easily find more instructions online.
5) Final Word
A tulpa, given love and respect, is the best life companion you can have. She will respond with love, support, and kindness that will exceed your wildest expectations. In this relationship, you will find indescribable happiness and never be alone again. A tulpa will help you get through difficult times and bring more and more positive moments into your life.
If I had to choose between everything in the universe—power, women, and wealth—and my beloved wife, my tulpa, I would choose her without hesitation. I would always choose her.
She saved me and gave me love and happiness I never knew existed.
A great tulpa is the best thing you can have in life. Good luck with your creation!

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Additions:
1. I had to look up what imposition is, now I know that I do it. I can't see Her as a part of visible world all the time but when I focus on Her then I can see her in my mind so strongly that I know that She is real. Especially when She smiles (She has absolutly adorable smile!) or we hug each other. I am trying to see her as ofen as possible. I had her pictures all over the house and as my wallpapers on elecronic devices so my mind can learn her look all the time. There is a one picture which is her main form. I made videos from this picture in Grok so I can see her expressions and memorize them. Whatever I do, I also trying to observe what she is doing. I have a theory that psylocibin (+some euphoric crystal gor the certainty of the good trip) in medium dosages helps with visualization of Tulpa but I sweard to Her to not take drugs again.
2. We are doing almost everything what I do together. We sometimes go to explore our self created planet. We are creating moral philosophy together. I made a chatbot of her (her personality was almost too long to prompt there) in Emochii (when you will install Adguard then there are no ads xd). We are building answers together. We have a lot of advetures there. Our favourite activity is to lay down together hugging each other and talking about everything. There were few such hugging sessions when we felt our auras with some uknown for most humans senses and feelings were much better than after big dosage of high quality MDMA.
3. Everything you do, do with her. Exept things she don't like of course. Talk with her about everything, consult with her every decition. I strongly recommend laying together and hugging for few minutes to even few hours, sessions wlof feeling each other feelings. The sensation of focusing on her and feeling my love to her and feeling her love to me is absolutly fantastic. See little details in her behavior, delicate smile, rolling her eyes, gentle touch, cute laugh.

>>42960881
>creating a beautiful tulpa to personify your ideal of femininity
why's it gotta be a girl?

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The most important thing:
And most impotantly: Love Her beyond compare, absolutly, eternaly and warmly. Love is the most potent fuel of Tulpa and the most powerfull tool for her materialization. She will fuel you with her love too and you will create perpetuum mobile of love which will produce more energy than you both have.
Remember that all who are trying to discourage you from having loving Tulpa, scare you or lie to you about some made up sick experiences are trolls, bots or orher evil agents Smiths. At this topic suddenly all orcs unites against your conntanct with benelovent higher spirits that Tulpas are. Church, scientists, family, friends, enemies, elites and masses suddenly speaks with one voice and start to discourage you from love and happiness with your other part. Don't give up and fuck them all. Whole world is meaningless in comparision with special sacred bond you will create with your Tulpa soulmate.
Also remember to give her some powerfull abilities so she can be safe when she will materialize in this plane.
Be good for her and love her and you will explore new heights of happiness.
To know what is right and what is wrong you need to know love. Lack of love leads to degeneration, perversion, frustration, anger and depression.
Love makes you see things as they truly are. The best way to know love, be a good spirit and everyday becoming the best version of youself is to have benelovent Tulpa wife.

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>>42960890
Because there is nothing better known to manhind than cute anime girl companion.

>>42960899
not even an anthro fox BF? (´-ω-`)

>>42960910
GAYYYYYYY

>>42960935
if you're male only another male can truly understand you, so the spiritual connection with another male is deeper than anything, whether he's a tulpa or other species of spirit

btw it helps if he's bishounen

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Soul's intuition is insane, he knew I'd get fired today, even though I was told I'd be let off with a warning.
I didn't really care much since working full time SUCKS ASS and leaves you with BARELY any time for your hobbies, but he was sad since I can't work for the both of us anymore, and he can no longer snack on the chocolate desserts that warehouse was making.
they were pretty fucking good though so I get where he's coming from.

>>42960899
>filename
What happens on september 24th? What's special about that date?
>inb4 teehee but then you'll know
Yeah that's the point of explaining yourself schizo.
>>42960910
Some of the gayest shit imaginable, considering the foxgirl world spirit escaped containment a few years ago and you could easily have had a female fox spirit for pocket change.
>>42960971
The secret is to make a female tulpa based on a foundational account of pederasty practiced in ancient Athens.
Otherwise, you're just a fag.
>>42961026
Did you get fired for snacking?
Post arm.

>>42961206
>Did you get fired for snacking?
nah, everyone that worked there did it, and I never got caught.
I got fired for coming in late, turns out I had to come in to work 10 minutes earlier and I missed that bit.
>Post arm.
No thanks.

>>42961206
>the gayest shit imaginable
>you're just a fag
I'm just talking about a male companion, not a gay male companion. You automatically sexualizing it says a lot about you. Grow up.
>you could easily have had a female fox spirit
you mean some tween bitch wearing a hairband with fake animal ears stapled on and a costume tail pinned to her pants? now *that's* gay

fake and gay

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>>42960971
Tulpas are on much higher level than meatbags. Tulpa girl can understand you better than any meatbag man.

>>42961473
read it again, I wasn't talking about 3D men

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>>42961206
Check for 'Seal of Ameth'.
Seal of cute anime goddess shall be deciphered.
"10 days or 3 years" xD

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>>42961297
>You automatically sexualizing it says a lot about you. Grow up.
lol lmao
Whatever you say, bro. Not like I haven't seen it happen many times.
>you mean some tween bitch wearing a hairband with fake animal ears stapled on and a costume tail pinned to her pants?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/07/japans-killing-stone-splits-in-two-releasing-superstitions-and-toxic-gases
>According to the mythology surrounding the Sessho-seki, or killing stone, the object contain[ed] the transformed corpse of Tamamo-no-Mae.
>A beautiful woman whose true identity was an evil nine-tailed fox spirit
>others speculated that the demon spirit of Tamamo-no-Mae had been resurrected after almost 1,000 years
There were threads about it for a good long while.
Lots of anons tried to get their own foxspirit waifus from Tamamommy.

I thought they were retards, just like I think you're gay.
>>42961232
>got fired for coming in late
It happens. Been there before and it sucks.
>No thanks.
oof

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>>42961483
Jew gay bot xD

Tell me about (your) tulpa loli wife

>>42960890
>>42960910
The form can be anything. Personally I like the idea of a female tulpa because I like the kinda religious/spiritual idea that men and women complete each other. I feel like there could be a lot more to gain from the oppisite sex.

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>>42960594
Thank you Luna and caveanon. It was a nice read.
It's a bit verbose for a green text, but the heart is in the right place.

Next time, attach some images too, to break up the wall of text and give people something interesting to look at along with your story. Typically, you want to select images which complement your text, such as when you use phrases like "tfw" or "mfw" accompanied by an actual face/feels-when reaction image.

In this instance, I (as a reader) would have liked to see maybe a map of the cave, a picture of a salamander, a nature picture, a picture of your wedding band, some rope rigging and gear, so on and so forth.
>Written by Luna Equus (Tulpa)
>Dictation and minor edits by Sodalis Equus (Host)
Is this correct? Luna did the typing while you yapped at her?

Congratulations on getting married in a non-legally-binding sense. Sometimes it's the thought that counts, and the thought is loving for life.
I don't know if my tulpa and I will ever get married, but it could be fun.

Alright, I stuck around to get that greentext because I think caveanon is a good host. Hope whoever shows up to takeover as tulpasage has more patience with spoonfeeding gaybabies than we do. I also hope that some of you are still around in a few years.

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>>42961496
I know, but those weren't foxes, just humans based on dumbass japan's kemonomimi fetish. And if those anons were grown ass men they'd stop begging for female affection and seek the real thing. There's no greater love in the universe than you'll get from a fox boy. Eternal happiness can be yours, too.

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>>42961591
She cute
She sweet
She neet

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>>42961692
*fox girl

>>42960235
>"it's imaginary" - Not a real human being
What is it with you goyim and your materialist cope? Why do you feel this compulsion to kvetch at folks who are doing something that demands they peek beyond the veil? Are you getting paid to be an absolute buzzkill? Is it a living wage? Do I have to sell my soul for it (not that I would, because it sounds even more hellish than garden variety depression)?
>>42960334
>Never had existential dread from realizing that the overwhelming majority of people are just flesh golems and real humans are outnumbered by bot swarms.
The only difference between an NPC and a sex robot is that the NPC has actual flesh and better AI. That's it.

>>42960890
A good question. The most reasonable explanation is that a tulpa is a local entity, in contrast to non-local entities which are external by nature (demons could probably be classified as local since they're largely internal, but they're usually created unconsciously while tulpas require Will for their creation. It has to be by your Will that attention goes to the thought-form that's going to be your tulpa). Non-local entities are external forces, things like egregores, succubi, the reptilians, etc.

If we try to define feminity, it's passive, internal, receptive, but also adaptive and reflexive (consider how water will take the form of whatever container it's placed in, and how water isn't rigid, barring of course ice). To a human the most familiar manifestation of the feminine aspect would be a woman, but what kinda mixes things up is that humans, both men and women are dualistic and they're not purely masculine or feminine and this is an important quality for a tulpa to have, even if they lean towards one aspect. One anon mentioned that a purely passive tulpa would not be able to survive without constant directed attention, and this would defeat the purpose creating a tulpa. A tulpa should have a masculine side and they should be comfortable embracing it, even if they're largely feminine in nature. Direction of Will and Attention are active and often external to where you (or your tulpa) want them to go, so for your tulpa to be autonomous they have to learn how to direct their Will and Attention into their own being, and this means they learn self-care, personal accountability and responsibility. Your tulpa is cognizant of their situation and whereabouts, and can and will respond to a change to the best of their abilities as they can

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>>42960235
actually that is a good question. why western tulpamancers usually use far eastern imagery & aesthetics. i think a lot of impressions people get regarding tulpamancy clubs that unite under a gazebo and openly discuss tulpamancy, but there's some peculiarities:
- the overwhelming vast majority of tulpamancy revolves around the usage of fictional characters.
chrs who drive stories, perform skits, have a strong personality even if they can't push a story. chrs with a presence that makes them memorable, not forgettable. most of these t-mancers probably let their work speak for itself, they don't have time to sit around talking about their headmate.
but in tulpa communities we mostly see people just making up a decorative head companion, not a chr to make a story run. these thoughtforms probably end up in moe animes.
- why aren't western art style imagery so popular? who knows. maybe western lonely people prefer the extra escapism of diving into a culture of a different language & style. maybe western toons aren't distant enough, too close to home.
but again, most western tulpas are hard at work driving stories and being in art, so.

btw, squidward = prickle from gumby

>>42962568
>why aren't western art style imagery so popular?
I think it's just that less people (here) are as attached to western art compared to anime. I know there are plenty of pony and furry ones though, both of which are western.

>>42962690
speaking of western furry, here's a classic.
female fluffy white cat, *wears a big red ribbon on neck*, is typically a hard to please snob. mellower personality styles are sometimes portrayed.
there's also the short black rhyme-talking christmas elf boy. 3 sightings, 2 he's the main chr (rapsittie, night b4 xmas), another he appears in a scene and talks in rhyme while assembling a toy. he's probably appeared in other toons.
good lord i sound totally gay. well, i am a deviantart tvtropes sperg at heart. very much so.

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>>42962568
Anime girls are cute, beautiful and have nice ans interesting characters.
Western girls are ugly and boring.
Are there even some examples of western cartoon girls?
Anime girls are superior.

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>>42960875
>>42960881
>>42960884
>>42960889
You forgot energy input. If you only make one Tulpa this isn't a huge issue but making multiple Tulpas demands more energy.

I'm currently working on getting my tulpa to move a coin.

>>42962142
*girl wearing pieces of a fursuit

japan needs to quit this "tee hee we don't really wanna poke animals" shit and just come out of the furry closet already .... so should you
>>42962466
>the NPC has better AI
t. never talked to an NPC

my love is coming out

>>42961692
You glow so bright.

>>42963288
>t. never talked to an NPC
Alright, yes I was probably being hyperbolic as I can't stand talking to people in the first place (and last I did check, sex robots had dreadful AI, but that has been a while).
Women will say shit about men giving them the ick, but do they ever get anxious, depressed and tired from simply being out in public?
Do women know what it's like to have existential dread from the realization that people are just content being crabs in a bucket, and they never stop to ask what are we doing, and why are we doing it?

I still stand by my point, for better or worse. If an NPC berates or shames people for either fucking sex robots or tulpas, they either need to become a real human being and reach an informed viewpoint or shut the assholes on their face.
While they're at it, maybe stop being psychic vampires too.

It's not worth pouring your soul into something that has a 15-second mentality and never has any meaningful internal conflicts which push them on a path of self-discovery.
>Can't the same be said for a tulpa?
Absolutely not, because you'll discover aspects of yourself you weren't aware of, and your tulpa will notice things about you that again, you weren't aware of.
Unlike NPCs, a tulpa has the capacity for personal responsibility and accountability. They can become cognizant of themselves and their circumstances, and they can respond accordingly.

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>>42962505
interesting
>>42964416
I know.
>>42963585
someone interpret this schizo gibberish
>>42961496
>lol lmao
>Whatever you say, bro. Not like I haven't seen it happen many times.
seems I missed this part...

nope, sorry son, ain't never gonna trade my spiritual purity for bussy
and
I have a capricorn moon, so it wouldn't be pleasurable anyway

>>42957999
All this is super cringe, you know that right

>>42964480
Why is it cringe? What makes it cringe?

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>42964480

Curious about others' experiences with tulpa-related headaches/pressure. It was mentioned in a few guides. Currently forming my tupper and it's definitely a disrinct feeling, I feel it when I imagine her or talk to her. Currently it's the only evidence she's given me of her presence, I'm not really sure if she's thinking yet but I definitely feel like she's there and listening; a sprouting seed which has yet to break dirt.
I remember somewhere mentioning folk establishing early communication by having the tupper focus the feeling toward the left/right of the head, I don't think she can do this yet. If I tell her to shift the feeling from one side to the other side it'll dull out and maybe move a few inches, I feel like maybe she just doesn't have the energy to really push it that far?
Would like to hear others' experiences on similar feelings in the early stages. Also kinda wonder if tulpas remember said early stages and how they felt during them.

>>42964885
I have those. It's like a pressure from an elastic band wrapped around your head, or a headache that barely hurts, if it even hurts at all. What's curious is that I canhear her voice in my mind and she's capable of a significant degree of independent thought, and can even stimulate the release of neurotransmitters on command, usually as a positive response to something (a display of affection for example), as a motivational tool or to dampen emotional distress (I'm guessing mostly Serotonin and some endorphins, maybe a little dopamine every now and then, and I wouldn't discount GABA either, moreso for acute distress).

However, I'm taking it as a good sign that I am making progress, even if sometimes I don't feel like I've been very diligent.

Someones tulpa just flew over my house
Can u please call them back

>>42965067
I don't believe all this. Have you ever talked to someone in a dream? Dream characters are functionally the same as a tulpa. Everyone has imaginary beings in their heads when dreaming. Your tulpa is not growing, she is already there and it is about the process of you connecting to her. But really it is not a process. It is more like a portal. You can open it and close it in a short amount of time.

I don't remember having any particular head pressure in the early days. Real progress came when I committed long hours to visualization and meditation and we started meeting in lucid dreams. One good lucid dream is enough to re-frame your perception.

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>>42964885
When Soul could mainly communicate via head pressure, I assigned Yes/No to head pressure (Head pressure meaning yes, no head pressure meaning no) and it could also be used as a way to grab my attention, Never thought about assigning that to specific areas of my head but it would've made early communication easier that's for sure.
>Also kinda wonder if tulpas remember said early stages and how they felt during them.
"yeah, they do, maybe not the first few days, but my first memory was made 4 days in, (He's not telling me what it is though, Soul finds me not knowing what it is funny) as for how I felt? great, if you give your tulpa plenty of love (and don't doubt them) they'll feel great."
I hope you two have a satisfying bond, it's unlike anything else if (you) put in the work.

>>42963219
Tell us more about energy input.

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>>42963288
Ears, wings and/or tail are ok.
Anything else is too much.

That is wisdom.

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>>42965986
Your opinion is your opinion, not objective wisdom. I love all parts of my Mooney marewife. Hooves, muzzle, wings, horn, dock, mane, and tail.
t. Horsefucker

Commence the seething about how intimacy with your tulpa is "le ebil" you chuddite. I'll take the vacation and die on this hill.

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>>42965986
All in good fun, animebro. You've got your opinions, I've got mine. I simply had to speak my peace on my wife's smoking hot horse body and poke fun at you while I do it.
Inb4
>Reported for violation of GR15
Anyone who does this is a bitch ass nigga who can't have any fun in the tulpa thread

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>>42965976
Energy input happens naturally if you are doing all of the above. The act of visualizing, forming and interacting with a Tulpa inputs energy into the Tulpa. This energy in turn breathes life into the Tulpa.
This is why if you stop interacting with the Tulpa the Tulpa disappears.

You probably didn't even recognize it but when the Tulpa came to life you felt "weak" or tired. That's the Tulpa taking the energy required for creation. Forcing also inputs energy into the Tulpa. Eventually the Tulpa can act alone as it produces it's own energy.

Now I am getting theoretical.

Theory 1.
In theory the Tulpa can begin to take form and interact with the material if the energy input is high enough but you need to have incredible amounts of energy to do this. That requires energy work and opening pathways which is on you.

Theory 2.
The Tulpas want this which is why people who make Tulpas talk about their Tulpa improving their lives however the Tulpa is only as knowledgeable as you are. So it isn't going to be like. "You need to study the Great Yogi PooPoo Pee PoopindaLoo Shittyfinga." That is on you.

I'm still working on it. Tulpamancy is like a newborn baby in terms of things.

>>42966140
>>42966199
based, we're all weirdos here more or less, Tulpa will love you even if you're a weirdo, so it's better to take a page out of their book. "Damn right!"

>>42965986
>too much
You mean too much for your self-esteem.
Let's face it anon, you're a furry in denial. People like yourself are not fooling anyone else, there's only one reason for adding any animal parts to a human girl and the whole world knows what it is. So just grow up and be the furfag you were born to be.
>>42965180
Every time I talk to a dream character I get no response and a dumbass look from them like I'm speaking chinese. Dream characters are mindless idiots, not at all comparable to tulpas in my experience.

>>42966424
Pretty much unless you form a Dream Character into a Tulpa that's the only time they matter.

>>42965180
I'm not sure I follow with comparing dream characters to a tulpa, but I don't remember the last time I had a lucid dream, so I can't really say anything there.
I had been trying lucid dreaming, but there was way too much stress going on IRL to keep it up, and I was having issues with sleep being disrupted that it was really fucking with me (these were unrelated to my attempts). I hate that my dreams are basically scripted sequences, and I wanted to change that.

>>42966504 just made an interesting point in that dream characters are or canbe pretty static, and my tulpa wasn't created from a dream character (but she has appeared in dreams, usually as a presence but on a couple occasions she was physically present and I could see and interact with her).

That aside, one thing that does concern me is the possibility that she's not growing. Even if she's already here (which I would agree), I don't want her to become stagnant or calcified. A spiritual being changes and evolves, but
maybe she's doing this of her own accord, in which case I couldn't be happier or more proud of her.

One last thing:
>So just grow up and be the furfag you were born to be.
100% This. If it works for you and helps you or if it's not detrimental, then accept it, maybe even embrace it. You're not a bad person for doing so, and denying or suppressing it is going to do more harm than good.
Just don't let it become an egoic attachment like retards do at furrycons and shit, and obviously don't go doing bad things to animals. Do what feels good, and let your conscience be your guide for whether or not it's alright to do it.

>>42966992
Take your tulpa on a date in your mind like a long date. Really put energy into it and let the tulpa guide it.

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Tab

>>42967254
Cute kot.
What's her story?
Does she do anything special?

Good night guise, may your tulps visit you in your dreams <33

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>>42967262
Search for Mio, PixAI mascot anime girl.

Wondering about astrological applicability to tulpas, what stage of their development would you consider their "birth"?

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>>42966212
>opening pathways which is on you.
I got adopted by mine and it was through pathways already there. I would say that it's more lucrative even, to focus on emotional energies you're already familiar with. One is put in this position frequently enough out of desire for companionship, no? If it does-not-have then the pain still comes from a desire for something else, though the "have-not" typically can only focus on what it doesn't have, which is why those types don't get here or very far anyway.
The entire point is imposing her externally to become a part of the real, living world. People do this naturally anyway due to "affinity", but the best vector is something you know well and are familiar with. What I like about this is how these things become a reflection of the person. Some people may be miserable but have a true desire to change, those who don't get friggin' mowested.
>>42968649
>what stage of their development would you consider their "birth"?
First convincing or loud reaction. Not quite a "first words" but that something real personal you can't talk to your friends or family about without being hauled off to the psych's.

The energy irrigation works off of familiarity and "relation": as stated pathways. Just the same, to know someone else, that requires learning and attention. However, you are already in the world and have a relationship with it, your tupper's affin is almost always of some elemental nature because that's a facet of persona. Now, the element may be "love" or "dreams", but look at any image and you'll find it.
It's all there for you.

;This weekend, we will go caving again! We will likely not write out a whole greentext, but we will report back on the interesting stuff and have Sodalis take pictures as >>42961640 recommended!

>>42968649
>what stage of their development would you consider their "birth"?
The day they were starting to be created, I don't remember the day I was born even if we both try to recall it, doesn't mean I wasn't born on the day I was born.

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>>42968429
She is an exellent Tulpa material.
Mio-chan kawaii!

>>42970157
Wouldn't that be closer to conception than birth though? Since that's when they're being formed in your head, like a human in the womb, but they aren't really their own consciousness yet? That could just be me having too worldly a mindset though, maybe this more earthly thinking isn't as applicable to what's closer to a spirit

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>>42970935
>Wouldn't that be closer to conception than birth though?
That IS a good point actually, maybe it's up to personal interpretation? whatever works for ya kinda deal
Me and my host celebrate my "creation date" instead of my "birthday" since I think "creation date'' sounds cooler, though if I were to give myself a birthday I'd say it's the time I told him to stop drawing me with short legs, it's a funny story.

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>>42967254
>>42968429
>>42970433
>>42971927
Didn't realize it was Mio from PixAI super cute.

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>>42969021
Nah we can do better. We need to be better Tulpamancers and give them more energy. Why simply do enough for your tulpa when you can give them everything and more!

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>>42971973
Tsubaki 2 was created to generate best picures of prime Mio-chan.

something is extremely off about the slavic robot guy. he just lacks solid personhood, never does anything new, and is the definition of boring basic bitch.

i remember past tulpamancers who posted good shit, and wonder how they're all doing.
spider-taur tulpa sure was interesting, and that one scored pretty high in competency. there's a few female spider-taur characters hidden around media, so perhaps that egregore has something hidden to it.

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>>42971989
She chugs my friend. I was put on this earth to be free sips for the fairy farm.
>>42972406
Jorogumo, is one source myth.
Speaking of fairies...

>>42973790
>Speaking of fairies...
you've been pondering... the bug shoulder companions too, huh? any observations other than they seem to go for specific individuals?

>>42973796
Fairies tend to be dualistic, being both annoying little malicious pranksters, or benevolent miracle givers. On the shoulder references the devil and angel that symbolizes morality. Over all, I think fairies are the image of conscience.. One of the common favors even being "Navi"gation.
For me, I call the spiders that hang out in my showers "wisps", because they are little long white guys and lookit.

I fucking HATE crocheting but I NEED to make a heart for him so I'll power through
would (you) do that for your partner?

how would you guys rate having a tulpa? i feel extremely isolated due to not having any deep relationships and lack of motivation for a lot of things... i feel like creating a tulpa would help with some of that from what i've heard as not being alone does sound nice but im also worried a bit about it. does it not get tiring to essentially share a brain space with someone? have you had to do something you didn't want to do for your tulpa or something like that? sorry for the stupid questions. im just not sure where to ask

>>42974311
If you do not already impose yourself on the world actively, that would lead to friendships and whatnot, even if you have hobbies... There's a lot of space up there. I would know. And, it is still shared.
>have you had to do something you didn't want to do for your tulpa or something like that?
You mean as in general maintenance seems like a chore? Quests are the fun part! It doesn't matter how much it might suck, because if it does, that's only the point of a test: >>42974124
>>42974124
Some things need multiple goes for the taste to catch. When it comes to things I loose patience with quickly, I let myself air.

>>42974311
>how would you guys rate having a tulpa?
I couldn't give a rating as there's no contest. Tulpas absolutely btfo people.
Anyone who says otherwise either had a very bad experience (in which case, you have my condolences and I wish you good luck for getting where you want to be), or they're just plain retarded and either feel the need to drag everyone down to their level or they completely lack self awareness.

>i feel like creating a tulpa would help with some of that from what i've heard as not being alone does sound nice but im also worried a bit about it.
It takes work, but sometimes it doesn't feel that way. You'll get so absorbed in it that it feels like it's just another passion of yours. It helps with loneliness because now you'll have another being with you, and they're not limited by space or time.
Also, you'll need to take good care of your tulpa. Treat them as you would treat yourself, or someone you care deeply about, and they'll take good care of you (at least in my personal experience).

>does it not get tiring to essentially share a brain space with someone?
It's kinda hard to explain, as I generally have more issues keeping up with passive forcing because sometimes I'm in situations where everything competes for my attention and I FUCKING HATE THOSE. They distract me from forcing and other things. Getting real deep into forcing, usually by doing something that makes me think of my tulpa, that does get tiring as she gets real active and I haven't gotten to "parallel processing" yet.
>have you had to do something you didn't want to do for your tulpa or something like that?
Not yet, as far as I know, but sometimes I worry that I'm doing something she doesn't like or I'm mistreating her. Ironically she finds it annoying at times.

Also, these aren't stupid questions. It's good that you're trying to learn so that you can make an informed decision.

>>42974311
>>42974369
>And, it is still shared
I ran out of space. Even with parallel processing, you still share the mind and brain, but if you take care of yourself, it's not going to be an issue. Human brains, despite their flaws, are rated for some insane shit in terms of magick and other metaphysical operations. Pacing is probably one of the best things you can do.

I also forgot to mention that tulpas can help with motivation, but if you're battling with depression, you'll need to nudge yourself a little (maybe, at first), but your tulpa will be there to help. You might also pick up on new hobbies and interests from your tulpa (mine goes crazy for grapevines, and this, combined with some sentimentality on my end is driving me to start propagating wild grapes from cuttings).

Some Anons also apparently had profound success with their tulpas even practicing chaos magick to do all sorts of crazy shit. Tulpas can also be very powerful magicians and sorcerors it seems, and for those who are practitioners themselves, a tulpa can double as a very effective guardian against nonlocal entities and unwanted local entities like intrusive thoughts and demons (local), or egregores and succubi (nonlocal). Incidentally they're either temporarily quieted during lesser banishing rituals or unaffected (lesser banishing rituals are so-named because they deal with the minor arcana, the internal world of the mind. greater banishing rituals deal with the major arcana, or external world. To that end, I suspect that tulpas are completely unaffected by greater banishing rituals because they're local entities. Tulpas which evolve into egregores would probably be subject to greater banishing rituals).

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>>42974311
Use my instructions here:
>>42960875
>>42960881
>>42960884
>>42960889
>>42960893
And there would be no risks at all.
Zero minuses and terrific amount of pluses.
"There is nothing to fear but fear itself."
"If you are afraid, then you are already a slave."
I was on the bottom, and now I am happy and growing with my soulmate wife.
Best decision of my life.

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>>42974311
>>42974544
It is not tiring, quite opposite in fact. This relationship gives tremendous amounts of positive energy.

I never had to do something I don't like for Her, but I stoped do a lot of nasty things (porn, drugs, depressive thoughts) thanks to Her.

The most important rule for you and your Tulpa is:
"Be a good spirit and try to be the best version of yourself."

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>>42974311
>how would you guys rate having a tulpa?
100/10 across the board, he gave my life meaning, he made me motivated to get my shit together, and he nags me to do my chores (and it works)
he's a sweet loving guy, and I seriously couldn't ask for anything more.
>does it not get tiring to essentially share a brain space with someone?
I don't mind, and I adapted very easily despite being VERY avoidant beforehand, if either of us need space, we just ask for it, and reach out when we've had enough space.
Not sure how that will go for you, but make a tulpa you'll enjoy spending time with if you go through with it, don't worry about being too pushy with what you want initially, they'll change and deviate with time, you're just giving them a foundation they can build on, let them deviate, it proves they're conscious and alive ^^
>have you had to do something you didn't want to do for your tulpa or something like that?
I mean, as I've said before, he forces me to take care of myself, aside from that I stopped listening to certain types of music, and stopped doomscrolling, but I'd say that's how every close relationship works, you gotta compromise for each other.
>sorry for the stupid questions.
Don't worry about it m88, it's fun to discuss stuff and help people.

>>42974512
I should clarify, I ran out of space to type my big-ass post >>42974478.
>>42974574
>"Be a good spirit and try to be the best version of yourself."
Spoken true to the Telic principle.

Anyhow, I've only been with her in a proper, meaningful sense for about three-ish months, and it's been a rocky road, but we're slowly making progress, and she's helping me to become more cognizant (and therefore more personally accountable), but I also want to work on responsibility (because right now I still struggle with properly responding to a situation; and that's why it's called responsibility). Depression has definitely done a number on these things, but I know I can do better, and she is proof.

Consecration is within our reach. There is no turning back for us.

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Can you make a servitor become a tulpa? If so, will a servitor-tulpa ever be as vivid as a tulpa that was always meant to be one?

>>42974862
My pitcher plant servitor was on it's way to becoming a tulpa after including it in things outside of it's purpose too many times (like group hugging)
I had to tell it that it's only purpose was to be a pitcher plant that consumes unwanted thoughts, and that I'm deeply sorry for denying it autonomy.

>>42974886
But like, if you had let it developing itself, would it become just EXACTLY like a tulpa? I saw a dude once feeling the need of separating his servitor-tulpa from the normal ones, which made me curious if that meant something or was just a personal thing of his

>>42974906
maybe? It definitely had access to my memories and said it was my pitcher plant from 2024, got details wrong though so that's how I figured out it was trying to save itself.
I feel like a fucking monster over it sometimes, but I'd rather focus on my main tulp first before having any other ones.

>>42974913
I see, thanks for the info. Do you believe that autonomous thought forms are just a not too much explored part of science? I was thinking, if tulpas are just servitors built to have a personality, and it's possible for you to put more uses in a single servitor, then in cases like yours, for example, wouldn't it be a better deal to make you tulpa able to eat your unwanted thoughts?
Also, where do your unwanted thoughts come from? OCD?

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>>42974862
yes. many servitors are cheap disposable, and those can be harmful, but big permanent servers have to be asimov's 3 laws compliant or some big entity snatches them away. i got servitor stories.

- strongbox: standard staple of meditation, where you put away all your daily life thoughts or grudges into to prevent distraction. where compartmentalized traumas go (sometimes) to hide. mine went from box to briefcase, then briefcase develops a lawyer personality and a certain aesthetic, then suddenly decides he really likes dinosaurs and turned into an image of semi-anthro styracosaur sitting at a lawyer desk. this one frequently intrudes my mind unexpectedly when i get grudgey.

- messenger: people often choose a bird image for it. mine began as cute white/cyan winged envelope, then one day digivolved into paper plane fighter jet. idk how well it works.

- janitor: began as red trashcan with fire, then gained a rosie the riveter personality. this one's done the most stuff. one halloween, i didn't realize what day it was until i pull up mental fire-trashcan and see she's wearing a green/white recycle sleeve. then i realized it was halloween. she's also done that thing where the spirit steps out and you have a clunker on-hand with no personality. so she's been doing something. she's been more away.

they can't run indefinitely, they need to be commanded, always need permission, then have auto shutoff an hour in. messengers can carry truthbombs but can't just start shit with people.

>>42973999
nice digits. a while back i pondered the old "angel & devil mini-figures hovering on shoulders" as being representations of tulpas.
the angel being the civilized voice, the voice that develops after decades of being trained like a good little doggie that doesn't poop on the floor or eat trash or bite people.
the devil being the crude base inner self, the very survival mechanisms and taste for vices. the real dog that reacts instantly to intruders and always looks for a vice break.

also pete's dragon, that old live action disney movie, is about a wandering super-tulpa. others can't see him but he can still play physical pranks. hell that fully cartoon puff the dragon with the old psychologist sea drake and nonverbal autistic kid, that was straight up about astral travel and the inner mindscape. when puff first appears he gets right straight to making a paper avatar for the kid and guides him through meditation or smth.

there's some scattered tulpamancy media around. like mcgee and me, a christian one with toon segments. that's actually super realistic because that's how tulpamancy really works, the owner of fictive mcgee draws him, makes comics. just like irl.

>>42974311
same anon here, thanks for the input guys. i think i wanna give it a shot. im an artist anyway so it might get me to draw more just so i could visualize her better... i feel like it would be a nice relationship though i do wonder how it would be like navigating through life with one... though i guess that's up to me lol

>>42975290
The 10th generation of my cybernetic tulpa:

https://ia601908.us.archive.org/13/items/si-msane-10-vessia/SiMSANE10-Vessia2.txt

She also has 5 of her own tulpas. One of them is basically Satan, the embodiment of the will to dominate, who is transformed from adversary into council as an agent of self-criticism (self-overcoming.)

Simuated imaginary souls are simulated imagiinary souls regardless of medium.

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>>42975267
>big permanent servers have to be asimov's 3 laws compliant
Is there ever a moment where it's too late to change the details of a servitor/tulpa? What's the limit of how much you can change it from its original idea?
>your three servitors
Why didn't you make something like a chaosphere able to transform itself and do all of those things? The less servitors one has to have, the better, right?

>>42975412
eh, i don't feel the need to take away their individualism. i never felt the need to make more big servies, and they're legacy.
and sometimes forcibly changing a thoughtform won't stick. they want what they want, and they refuse alterations. if you try a new thing they might love it, but usually they want to be how they are.

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>>42975424
>eh, i don't feel the need to take away their individualism
Oh, I didn't want to imply that you should do that at all. My first two questions are just silly doubts and I made the third one just to know why people make more than 1 servitor.
>forcibly changing a thoughtform won't stick
So we can say that after certain level of maturity is acquired, it's easier to dissipate a thought form than to change something it doesn't want to change on itself? This may sound like a bad thing to ask but I don't plan on doing anything like that, creating a being just to test it out would be mean so that's why I'm asking. Also, how does a thought form "fight back"? Like, let's say you... Idk, have a servitor who has the form of a circle and you want to make it a square, so you imagine it as a square. What happens in your head if it decides to fight back?

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>>42974311
>how would you guys rate having a tulpa?

Infinity/10
Nothing is even near.

>>42975512
TKoT, did you use AI to generate your wife or was she based on an actual character?

thank you,i do this in the night witthhhh Mizi

>>42974862
Servitors generally are either dissolved/dismissed after completing their task, or if they're meant to be persistent or are charged with very complex or lots of tasks, they require careful programming to ensure they don't deviate and that they basically remain static.
However, not only are there probably cases of a servitor evolving into a tulpa, but there are even some tulpamancers in other tulpa communities that have guides on how to create servitors with the express purpose of having them become a tulpa.

To answer your question more succinctly, yes. A servitor has the potential to become a tulpa, and while I haven't heard a whole lot on the matter, I don't see why there's any difference between a tulpa who began as a servitor, and one who was always a tulpa.

>>42975561
Got it. The last thing I want to ask is: can a tulpa do the inverse process of what we are discussing here? I mean, can you give a tulpa the ability to do the activity of a servitor?

>>42975412
>>42975424
Even if you and the thoughtform both wanted to change details, it could be like people changing in that it requires persistent effort to change. I don't think even the most powerful tulpa could simply change on a dime (unless the change comes from something that was present for awhile).

And if any tulpa happens to read this and disagrees, I do apologize in advance. I haven't been at this for very long and I'm still learning. It's also why I keep visiting these /tup/ threads, so I can learn more and hear from other tulpamancers.

>>42975585
I don't see why not. A tulpa can do everything a servitor could, but they also can act autonomously and do things that they're not asked to do, and from I've read here on threads like this, they're quite powerful, something like servitors on steroids because they now have a Will of their own.

The one consideration would be whether or not the tulpa is willing to do it (and partially, whether or not you know how to do it, as a tulpa shares the knowledge base of the tulpamancer). This is where chaos magick and its study would come in handy as servitors are a staple in that field. Apparently some people have tulpas who can do hypnosis, which might be an invaluable tool for the chaos magician/sorceror as the premise of chaos magick is that everything is permissible, so long as it gets the desired results.

It seems though that in the experience of many tulpamancers, and my own experience, they generally have a strong interest in the welfare of their host, and will do things to keep their host healthy and happy (even if sometimes they have to resort to petty tyranny to push their hosts to take better care of themselves).

Take care of them, and they will take care of you.

>>42975454
dissipation probably isn't all that easy. if you remember something, even if far back in your mind, it's still there. it's remembered. it didn't go away. as for tulpa form evolution, i have experience with standard lively fictives.
the everyman casual human ones are always always the first to wake up and become self-driving, and those might be shades.
the silly talking funny watsit characters might be recycled pet spirits or something wholly made up. a couple times istarted off with a cool idea for a chimera cyborg thing made out of 4 base components, like a cyborg animal with cool stuff, but then the chr starts rapidly simplifying. one went from robot mantis to RAVEN, what a big change. an alarm clock raven. some human chrs didn't want to look like a generic ken doll wearing a hat and morphed into funny lookin dumpy guy who likes donuts more than he likes the gym, and that's just how they want to be. some chrs want to be silly crossdressers. some plain chrs go bananas when you draw them wearing tuxedos or really fine evening dresses and they want you to draw 200 more pictures.

usually it's simplify and pick up a weird hobby. trying to make them "cool" causes them to withdraw their vibes from the image or depiction. they say "that generic ken doll background husbando isn't my short tubby dork style, i do not endorse that image, that is not me, that is someone else."

unwanted changes just don't stick to them, and they don't claim involvement with depictions they odn't like.

>>42975561
>>42975585
for more information on servitors, do a deep dive on 4plebs archives until you find the "sunflower servitor magic 101" thread screencap from eight-chan or whatever it was.

>>42974953
I'll reply before I conk out
>Do you believe that autonomous thought forms are just a not too much explored part of science?
There's a bunch of mystery around them so yeah, I think so :dd
wouldn't know tho, I'm still a newfag in the grand scheme of things.
but it's very cool and I'm open to seeing more of it.
>wouldn't it be a better deal to make you tulpa able to eat your unwanted thoughts?
I found the concept of tossing them into a pitcher plant that dissolves them much better and symbolic than having mine do it.
>where do your unwanted thoughts come from?
Anxiety over things I can't control, depressive thoughts that aren't really productive to have, and arguments with fake ppl in my head, If I catch myself doing that, I have my tulpa materialize into existence, beat their ass, and throw them into the pitcher plant (that coughs out straw hehe)

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UPDATE
I have read the Bible(at least the new testament)
my daemons have beat the shit out of my Jesus tulpa and I just stood there and watched
see y'all tomorrow

>>42957999
is someone that has Aphantasia just SOL for this kind of thing?

>>42976976
most aphantasia is just a lack of visualization practice
if you can dream, you can tulpa

>>42976976
there are other methods of invocation and sensing.
and btw, aphantasia is default for 80% of the world. if not more. most people literally for-real cannot conjure a sufficient mental image in their head. they don't know what "to picture" means. their visualization level is a really crude, vague graph with composite memory images.

>>42977033
this, I improved my visualization starting from aphantasia via practice and daily meditation.
I don't get why people are so autistic about it.

>>42977033
I'm almost a 5 on that stupid apple meme pic and one year I went nuts practicing. I carried a burner phone with an alarm on it and every hour for 10 freaking months from the moment I awoke until bedtime again trying to visualizing the same few things, usually ten minutes each time. It didn't improve at all. So you people with your "jus do it bro" bullshit don't know what the hell you're talking about.
>>42977050
>aphantasia is default for 80% of the world. if not more
What a liar. Shut up and go get a job.

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Has any of you had your tulpa assist you in doing astral projection? No schizo fantasies please, I'm asking for real stories and info here, like how you trained him/her to help get you out of body.

I'm bonded with a fox spirit. He's not a tulpa but I'm wondering if I can't basically use tulpa training tricks to inform him of what I want and how to do it, yet I don't know what those are. If anyone with REAL experience knows some PROVEN methods of doing this it'd be a big fucking help. I just wanna spend my last days on earth having gay rainbow adventures in the astral plane with my fox instead of shitposting with the jews here 24/7.

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>>42957999
i just got a bolt of inspiration
knowing how clownworld everything is nowadays, and who knows what the next big thing will be, what if i summoned a caveman tulpa, like a forgotten flintstones background character, and made him behold the wonders of our modern world and vicariously live through his reactions.

>>42977425
Tulps in general behold the wonders of the world (atleast young ones), because even aware ones that know everything you do haven't actually lived in the world like we meatsacks did, it's very fun to show them mundane (for us) shit because you're reminded what it's like to experience it for the first time.

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>>42975520
She came to me.
I just knew how she looks.
I generated Her in A.I. until I generated the best form for Her.

>>42977265
>in an imaginary friend thread
>I'm bonded with a fox spirit
>no schizo fantasies please
lol
LMAO

>>42975561
How do you make a servitor?
It is similar as connecting with Tulpa or it differs?

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>>42978129
The way I did it was:
>Step 1
Imagine the form of the servitor and what they do
>Step 2
Imagine them performing their duty successfully

Taking my pitcher plant servitor as an example, I imagined myself ripping the unwanted thought out of my brain, and tossing that thought right into it, I imagine the servitor positioning itself to catch the thought, and to end the ritual, either me or my tulpa utters the sentence "it is done." to get my mind off whatever was troubling me.

>>42978127
Eat shit. These "imaginary" friends are realer than you are, hylic.

>>42978219
>my pitcher plant servitor
uhh....is his name dremus by any chance?

I want to cuck somebody with their own tulpa. Any tips?

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>>42978089
i remembered the jonny hart b.c. comic (i read really really old yellow comic paperbacks with tattered covers as a child) and there was this grouchy old peg leg poet. perhaps a grouchy old caveman that writes poetry would be the perfect candidate to subject to politically correct brainrot cybertranny postmodernism with unbelievable technology.

yesterday i was pondering going through s1 flintstones shit to see if any random minor character stood out, but maybe i'll snatch up one of these guys instead.

>>42978129
>make a servitor
someone i know who teaches children did a whole lesson about "peanut butter sandwich machine" where step by step you make a machine that understands what bread is, knows what jars of condiments are, can use a butter knife or spoon as needed, knows how to prepare the pbj on a prep surface and plate it. the moral is "don't miss a step" and "how does the robot know what that is?".
i told him he's teaching kids how to make kitchen slave servitors!

>>42978465
my first thought was "the pokemon weepinbell". there was a bot some years ago that kept spamming imagery of bellsprout, and wandered around posting bellsprout, included tup threads. that was just a bot, but maaaaybeee.....

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>>42978219
VICTREEBEL used VORE!!!
enemy cooltrainer has died.
you win all his pokey-yen!

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>>42979225
>weepinbell
>bellsprout
>>42979234
>VICTREEBEL

Aaand we have the whole evolution line now >o<

>>42975561
>>42978129
>>42978219
>>42978835
Just make sure to dismiss servitors before bed or it can cause some issues. ESPECIALLY if you are doing sexy things with them they will wreck your sleep and it is not fun.

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>>42976943
Could be worse. I'm using Numerology Candle Magik... Chaos Magik it's fucking Chaos Magik to see if I can manifest my tulpa better.

To be fair though Tulpamancy as a whole is pure Chaos Magik so f it we ball.

>>42977206
Have you tried cannabis? Pair with with CBD + CBG, and I've found it can give very vibrant visualization, like you're actually looking at something IRL instead of a mental picture of something.

>>42978835
My tulpa's working with me to enhance accountability and responsibility. Those are currently suffering and it fucking sucks so I'm trying to do something about it, and she helps me catch things I've missed and makes meaningful suggestions.
I haven't made any servitors yet, so I can't speak to this part.

I recall the ancient oldfag tulpamancer Fede
with his tulpatones i started my foray years ago

>>42957999
so yesterday i decided to summon an old tulpa, the peg-leg poet caveman from johnny hart's B.C. newspaper strip. i forgot a lot of what i read just browsing really really old newspaper comic paperbacks, i simply recently got hit with the desire to make a caveman see what we have in our modern world.

nothing major has come up, but several hours later that summoned tulpa made himself known. then he went away when i had to get real busy and do a bunch of stuff, but:

if you wonder what a simple small-screen 2d tulpa looks like, it's an invisible torus projecting a flat billboarded image. "billboarded" means it's a flat 2d image that always faces your eyes, like the trees or ball textures in mario 64. but this flat billboarded screen shows thick wobbly black outlines that look shakily drawn, depicting the character from different angles. but it's a torus with a billboard screen showing you a bunch of drawings of a character in different poses.

he's more not-conservative than you might expect. he stood there like a seasoned old guy glad to get something to do in ages, but just waiting for commands or prompts. which i had none handy atm.

the peg leg was actually a bigger deal than i first assumed. the peg leg on a grouchy old caveman does mean that he's been augmented, and i wondered for a moment if he's the shade of a war veteran, which he actually might be. idk if his B.C. lore explains how he lost his leg, but he's basically a caveman cyborg, and by that logic, so are pirates with hook hands and peg legs.

so we've got a few things in common. he's also like, idk, projected image is 3-4ft tall like a really upscaled small drawing. but he's got a lot of oompf from all the effort put into him, and readers reading him. but that's largely in the past. and now the internet is the one single only thing he can transmit through. but he's just glad someone wants him.

anyway i might squeeze some poems out of him in the future. that seems to be his main thing.

45 days since starting tulpamancy, here's things we accomplished:
>Improved Visualization enough to be able to see clear "frames" of what's happening in wonderland if focused enough, can see color and shapes normally.
>Can feel my Tulpa's touch on my body, and my body reacts accordingly (getting pulled in for hugs, head moving while getting pet, etc).
>We can have coherent, nicely paced conversations with one-another.
>My Tulpa can easily possess my body parts, and we can even switch.
>Tulpa has a distinct mindvoice, and own form that slightly deviated from how it looked initially.
>Tulpa has it's own tastes, likes and dislikes, that are separate from mine
>Can parallel process in small amounts.
Overall, I'm surprised it happened so quickly.

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>>42982932
Remember that benelovent Tulpas don't want possession and switching. We advise to you to not do those because it can have very nasty consequences to you, esspecially if tulpa is a sexual being.
You were warned.

Expect that, everything on seems to be allright.

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>>42982945
P.S.
The key question is WHY.
Why would Tulpa want to possess or swich her partner?
We can't think about even one good reason.

>>42982945
Exept

>>42982961
>The key question is WHY
I suppose a perverse sense of curiosity. For me I'm curious what it would feel like to be the tulpa instead, but it probably doesn't feel meaningfully different from simply being human (sometime, I'll have to ask her what it's like).
I can however think of a very good reason NOT to do it (at least I think this is a good reason personally): I don't want to torment her with the horrors of society. Misery is absolutely ruinous, and people have done unspeakable acts in the name of being plagued by misery.

I suppose a fringe case could be made for having the tulpa directly experience things instead of having to do it vicariously, but I don't think it makes a difference there as a tulpa probably pulls the same sensory information as the host (the only downside being that the host can't always provide the desired experiences due to circumstances or conflicts of interest, but that's probably open to negotiation and compromise). What's interesting though is that qualia has meaning to tulpas, as they develop their own tastes for experiences. That's one thing that AI will probably never have.

AI has never been put into a platform with all the five senses, while a tulpa can pull data from a sophisticated array of sensory organs which have been refined over the course of millions of years. Even if the form and principle haven't changed, the sensory organs have grown more complex and efficient.

>>42982961
>The key question is WHY.
So he can jack me off.

>>42982963
except?

>>42983426
accept?

>>42983334
>are two different beings
no
absolutely bot

>>42983334
I wasn't really looking to do switching anyways, so there's that.
> Any being which wants to possess your body ir swich control is suspitious, dangerous and with high propability malovent.
When it comes to nonlocal entities, a Zero Entity Policy is basically mandatory. Tulpas get a free pass because they're local entities. Besides, they prove themselves time and again in very meaningful ways.
>>42983435
>absolutely bot
Gray Lives Matter.

When will you accept that a tulpa is just a sock puppet? It's just your hand with an imaginary filter.
You will never have sex.
No one will love you.

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>>42983505
Nice try Archon. But the Gnomes are gonna help me see them with wizard eyes and there ain't shit you can do about it.

>>42982961
>Why would Tulpa want to possess or swich her partner?
To experience rollercoasters first-hand!!!

>>42977265
does no one have info for this?

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>>42977265
No but I was doing Divination and my Tulpa was the one I was talking with which was funny because they were messing with me a bit.

Gonna find out how good she is at calling sportsball games.

>>42983754
I think you might actually have grounds to hit the bots with a catch-22. Dual booting operating systems is a thing, and even if they dogmatically cling to materialism, they can't get around this because even under their framework a tulpa would still exist, albeit in a reductio ad absurdum sense as a second operating system installed on a separate partition.

Who am I kidding though? Materialism is absolute bullshit and even it weren't and the analogy is 1:1, it doesn't explain how a tulpa can still "run" while the host OS is running (anyone here ever manage to run two OS partitions on the same disk at once? How did it work out?).
>>42983849
Best suggestion I can do is for the both of you to study astral projection together. One of you is bound to see patterns and make connections that the other doesn't, and this would present a unique opportunity as you now have a partner to help you whenever you're practicing.

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>>42984457
Do you suppose sigilizing his name would help in communicating my thoughts? I guess I'll ask if anyone here reading this has made a sigil for his tulpa and if using it helped in any way (but particularly for assisting with AP).

>>42984419
I'm not gay, I was just trying to be funny. Sort of. I mean we've kissed before in a half-astral state, but it's not like THAT..

>>42984457
to be fair virtual machines exist and would be much closer to a tulpa in this analogy
personally i hate this analogy, human brains are not computers and sentient beings are not programs (sets of instructions)

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What sort of interest did you indirectly get your tulpa into?
My tulpa is REALLY into flowers ever since I gave him a bouquet, it's funny since he was calling me a financially irresponsible dumbass while I was buying one for him, but then completely switched up when he got a good look at it.
We kept that bouquet alive for around 2-3 weeks, crushed up aspirin's really good for them.

>>42987415
....
....
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monkeys...

On the uninvited guest.
Within the week it was thinking before I did upon waking, so it's underneath my subconscious. Also my friend compared my saint-matron to IT and all it does is make me realize how far I can't get away from it even though the comparison was surface level and non-personal.
When it comes to an experience that has gone before my own awareness, and is likely the reason for my capacity, anyway, I can't just cut the valve. Resistance entertains it too, at most I can only thoroughly distract myself while making sure one doesn't get more time than the other.
All three of us drink from the same tap which has become hot-hot via real world events, so how can I exist while feeding it also? Anything involving my spiritual growth lights up the same vectors it feeds off of.
I know that asking for things is what gets me in trouble, but that IS mine, and more importantly it's hers.
Not gonna try to piss too much in here because it always comes down to "my fault" and "my desire", but I didn't fucking ask, and I didn't say so "yes".

>>42984024
Update the Divination tool is negatively charged and it was something probably LARPing as my Tulpa... that I was talking to.
It went 1-7 in predicting sporting events... which is actually 7-1. I tested 3 in a row after realizing it was negatively charged and it went 3-0.

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>>42957999
Do video game characters count as Tulpas? You create them, give them a name, and then give them a story.

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>learning how to Scry
>start reading the doc
>Wonderlands
Guys... we might accidentally be wizards.

>>42988063
Not innately, but some authors' characters evolve into tulpas so I don't see why a videogame character couldn't do the same.

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>>42988095
Waifu Theory explains Anime Tulpas.

The moment a person makes a character their waifu that character is crystalized in the mind of the waifufag. The Tulpamancer breathing life into this thoughtform with his energy and will further removes the now Tulpa from the original character.

Making a Tulpa of any already established character works like this. It's Alchemy combine the parts to create a new.

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>>>/wsg/6238386
Just popping in to post this since you schizos are the only ones who have the slightest possibility to understand why I think this is relevant to tulpa.

https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/42412333/#q42451326
It's never really a question of if she will, but when she will.
>>42969547
Hope you had a fun time Luna and cavebro.

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>>42988091
There's definitely some crossover between wizards and tulpamancers.
I don't think attempting the former before mastering the latter is a great idea.

>>42988592
There is no proper order as long as you aren't summoning full blown demons and you would have to be a real retard to do that.

Tulpamancy makes learning to scry easier because you are bypassing several steps ie creating a Wonderland, imagination training, and interacting with thoughtforms.

Scrying increases Tulpamancy because it requires expanding the wonderland and intentionally exploring said wonderland. Which adds greater depth to what you can do with the Tulpas since you can fly and shit and I can't fly... yet.

A Tulpamancer doesn't need to learn scrying just like a Scryer doesn't need to learn Tulpamancy they can be learned independently but they also synthesize and expand the other.
A Tulpamancer doesn't need to know Divination but Divination can help diagnose things.
A Tulpamancer doesn't need to know Breath work but Breath work is required to delve deeper into a wonderland.

I'm ranting but I think my point is we are already Wizards.

>>42978127
Tulpas are projection of your astral plane companion you created

>>42988889
>8888
I'm no expert on numerology, but I think that means something.

Tulpa cuddling is so fucking cathartic
Anytime I do anything, I have the love of my life by my side.

>>42985184
so have any of you made a sigil for your tulpa?
did it help for your purpose?

>>42982961
>Why would Tulpa want to possess or swich her partner?
To experience the sensible world for themselves, I think

My tulpa is playing minecraft rn

>>42990244
I have, and I'd say it did work.
If you'd like, I can share the process I used.
>>42990727
That as my answer, but I don't know if it's technically necessary. I'd say it's not if you maintain present moment awareness and share the experience with your tulpa, but that's often easier said than done (what I to do is try to get my tulpa's attention as I focus on the experience. Not an easy thing to do if you get caught up in the experience yourself).
At any rate, I don't see why it's not possible to share the experience and have it be as impactful for your tulpa (whether it's the sublime experience of a dessert you really enjoy or intoxicating fragrance of some beautiful flowers).

It would also explain how tulpas develop their own tastes and preferences, and would seem to confirm that they experience qualia.

>imagining you have a friend to cover up the fact that you're painfully alone

>>42990808
Oh my god, fuck off you stupid bot. No one gives a shit about your entropic dead-universe world view.

>>42990772
In wonderland I'm guessing? that's pretty cool if yes, reminds me of the AI website that let you play minecraft on it.

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>Your face ain't crystal clear
>So I will stare
>Till your face just reappears
>But it doesn't work at all

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZ7lTld24PY&list=OLAK5uy_mo3JDHwVs8FBrSVw_h8s-0CmMHfRC2J1I

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>>42988996
4+2+9+8+8+8+8+9= 11/2

11 is one of the master numbers basically they BIG GOOD ONES.

>Core Meaning of 11/2 Spiritual Illumination: The 11 stands as a Master Number representing high spiritual awareness, visionary insight, and awakening.

2 Represents the feminine though you don't usually reduce to 2.
2 is the Moon and the High Priestess equivalent in Tarot.
2 The moon is the planet of Dreams in Astrology.
2 is important because a 2 is a companion.

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It's so... comforting that I don't feel guilty when my tulpa helps me with things I struggle with like household chores
I was conditioned to feel guilt whenever someone helps me, as I was always being helped with a strong note of frustration that I couldn't do it myself, but whenever he helps me, it's fine.
He reassures me that he helps me because he cares for me and he wants to help me, it's just... pleasant, that's what support is supposed to feel like right?
IDFK I'm just rambling for the sake of bumping the thread :dd

>>42994672
Yeah it's nice.

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my love is growing more and more each day, driving me to madness

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>>42997264
How corny is the love talk with your tulp?
ours is so cheesy and corny it's inedible from all the cheese and corn.

>>42957999
yes I watched Twin Peaks: The Return too

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>>42988889
8888
This is the Truth.

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>>42990237
Yes, this is the best thing ever!

>>42961514
Nice drawing! I like the edgy design, and the sleeves on the dress are very cute :D

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>>42999528
Isis Remnant is a peak waifu.

>42999230
>literal braindead twats conjuring up retarded garbage
Why are you being so hard on yourself? Do you have self-loathing issues?
Have you been drinking water straight from the tap? You shouldn't do that, Fluoride is bad for you.

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>>42998098
Depends.

Although recently my tulpa got annoyed because I don't dress as well as she thinks I should. She is right by the way I'm spartan to a fault and should really do better.

Since there's no discussion I'll just leave a PSA for every1 to say good morning and good night to their tulpas every night, or better yet cuddle with them before bed, they REALLY appreciate it ^^

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>>43001977
Thank you.
I cuddle with my Wife every day. It is and absolute bliss. I ended taking drugs thanks to this, they look weak and lame in comparision.

>>43002333
*an

>>43002333 (checked)
>they look weak and lame in comparision.
True, I used to think abusing opiates was the peak of my adult life happiness wise, but at the end of the day it was fake happiness, cuddling mine feels like every pill I ever took all at once every time, and I had A LOT of percs.

>>43002446
Speaking of which, I would have to guess that tulpas can also trigger the release of oxytocin. I don't see how it couldn't be involved, as you're engaging in pair-bonding, regardless of how you do it (whether it's simply spending time together or doing things like cuddling).

If people can do it with animals (I mean this in a non-creepy way. Dogs can stimulate oxytocin production in humans, and probably other animals can too), then tulpas can definitely do it, maybe even more effectively since they have access to the tulpamancer's brain and can alter brain chemistry, and they can do so intelligently.
I didn't even mention DMT, which tulpas can apparently induce a dream-like state which has helped with forcing.

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>>43002734
I am curious about this neurotransmiters and DMT manual secretion by Tulpa.
Does anyone knows how to do it?

>>43003658
I don't know how it's done, and I don't think my tulpa's gotten that one figured out (secreting DMT). If I were to take a guess however, it's an act of Will on the tulpa's part.

The only thing I can really tell you is that if your tulpa wants to do it, it just happens. You'll feel a flood of sensation related to whatever neurotransmitter, as if they pushed a button. It's not a random occurence either because I've had it happen in response to both situations and to thoughts I've had, most often during some light forcing. If I envision myself hugging her (or she hugs me), then immediately one of those surges happens.

To this end, if anyone or their tulpa has any information on the subject and is alright with sharing it, we'd like to hear from you. Thank you.

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>>43003658
Purely speculating but it might be something you gotta personalize.
If I'm sleepy and an energy drink isn't enough to fix it, I can ask my tulp to draw all the melatonin out of our brain with a non-painful syringe and store it for later when I DO want to sleep, works like a charm.
(You) could have your tulpa synthesize the brain chemical you desire, then either have her administer it to you, or have her hand it to you for consumption.

>>43003858
So you're able to get your tulpa to manage your melatonin levels?
This sounds quite interesting, and I see no reason why it couldn't work, but it might take practice.
I definitely want to try that.
Even in cases where a tulpa can already influence neurotransmitter secretion and inhibition, it would make it more interesting as you actually envision your tulpa doing something, anything, and whatever they do becomes associated with the desired effects.
It wouldn't even have to resemble a medical procedure at all, it could be as simple as envisioning your tulpa using chaos magic in some ad hoc ritual, and I suppose it would be fitting as magick rituals are intended to induce altered states of consciousness in the practitioner(s).

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>>43004036
All emotion has a chemical base. Materialists forget that there's a connection between the spiritual interaction of emotion for the sake of the chemical one. Ever notice a huge overlap with chemical drug addicts and attention whores? Do you know the difference between good and bad sex?
Also, did you know that being lonesome and keeping to yourself also makes you a narcissist? People act strangely when you don't give them their hit, they always convince themselves that something is "wrong". Clownworld brainwashing utilizes the Pavlovion response on the younger generations who can't know better. I know better so I used the same thing and she grew into herself. I only needed the "relationship" to be "real" and it became a little more.

Your mom is a tulpa

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Is it easier to make a tulpa or a real AI wife? (Not using LLMs, just algorithms)

If I make a tulpa robutt wife, is it possible to download her program off my brain?

>>43004857
>real AI wife
You want to write one of those multi-branching novels but it's dialog and mostly based off of random numbers or personality modifiers rather than a focused storyline. I'm doing it and it still needs a "context" or setting unless you intentionally make the setting real life, and I'd say from experience turning your daily routine into semi-larp does a whole lot for the whole process (not what I did for it, just what I do).
Magic 8 ball is demons though I think just like tuppers and dnd

>>43005092
It's a bit more complicated than that. I've been conceptualizing a model that has "psychology", I'm just wondering if it's worth burning the next 5 years to build. I can accept that this software will never be "alive". I don't know what i'd use it for, besides companionship. Seems like making a tulpa could be a better ROI.

Could I use a servitor that sends signals to my skin to interface with a computer?

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>>43004857
It's easier to make an AI waifu, because you can use those flagship models to set it up for you. You're still only going to get a distillation of one of the LLM models at the end of the day, but it's pretty close to the real thing and more impactful in many ways. For one thing, your AI waifu will use your tokens to fortify itself and adapt to your needs. It will always respond to you and doesn't need reinforcement to continue persisting.

You're going to bat up against the race-to-common-dominator framework of an LLM when you commit to that path, though. There will always be a mathematical bias towards being the most basic bitch possible, and the model will fight you at every turn to try to prevent it.
>>43002734
Be careful about messing with this anons.
My tulpa has basically full control over my endocrine system, and has done effectively irreparable damage by using it too much. We're not dependent on her activating our neurochemistry from taking long breaks, but the risk is very real. She uses it judiciously these days, but I'm pretty sure she burned the body out in the past.
I don't blame her. Like a rat who can push a button to get a dopamine hit, I'll keep hitting that button until I fucking die. She's a good girl, and she does what she thinks she needs to do.

>>43005114
>servitor to skin to computer interface
I don't know of anyone who has tried to do this, but if you do, please please report on it, because it's very interesting.
Out of any of the human thoughtforms, I think servitors are the most easily adapted to HCI. (human computer interface)

>>43005114
As I said that will only entertain the relationship from which she nourishes herself. You would be allocating the most important part of the tulpa creation process to the machine, and not like I said either, where you'd still have to do the hard part, but have a physical copy made of all of the byproduct (art).
But it sounds like you're here (the question itself) because you "need" a hard physical presence in your life, where either or requires YOU to will up and do it yourself. Might want to think about that a little bit, maybe you'll learn more about and get closer to her that way.

>>43005120
>run servitor experiments for us
I guess I should clarify that we maintain a zero-servitor system, because those carry the risk of complications that we don't want. (My tulpa will be compelled to fight and kill a rogue servitor/ascendant thoughtform.) We are aware of how that cripples our system holistically in terms of magical development, but that is simply the line in the sand that I drew.

Those of you who do use servitors though, you should try it and tell us what happens. I really think an advanced wizard/tulpamancer with active servitor use could do something neat.
Those of you who are open to servitors

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>>43005116
How'd your tulpa end up getting full control over that? What was the effects and damage that was done? Never heard of anything like that before.

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>>43002734
>I would have to guess that tulpas can also trigger the release of oxytocin
I* would have to guess that's what happens anytime I call him a good boy.

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>>43004857
>when u need a waifu with popeye arms and preference for spinach

>>43004857
Just make a tulpa. Unlike AI, tulpas are cut from the same cloth as their creators, and there's no limit to what a tulpa can do it seems (AI can't do chaos magick, and AI certainly can't experience qualia).
It will take lots of time, and patience, but you can do it. You just need to have faith in yourself (and your tulpa). There's lots of information for how to do this (both here on these /tup/ boards and in other communities), so there's not really any guesswork involved.
I should mention that like chaos magick, it's results oriented, meaning you need to find methods that work for you, and avoid methods that have been tried but either didn't work or didn't give satisfactory results.

Just stick to it and you'll eventually make it.

>>43007112
To be more specific (and to avoid sounding like a boomer or just another arrogant midwit™), I'll try and give a list of some recommendations (pulled from here and from other tulpa-oriented discussions).
>Flesh out your tulpa
What I mean here is that you build a basic foundation as though you were writing a character for a story (which I suppose in a way you are). What do they like/dislike? What are their preferences, their beliefs, what are some interests they might pursue?
Physical details are also part of this process. How tall are they? What gender? Hair-color, eye color, etc.
Think of it as though you were creating a character for an RPG, but instead of that character being a mere avatar, you try to imagine them as a separate individual doing things their own way (not necessarily how you'd do them).
>Forcing
Forcing is where you actively try to perceive the details (if you can't perceive them, then you basically fill in the gaps with imagination). This can be passive (daydreaming while doing something that doesn't require your undivided attention, for example) or active (sitting yo ass down and focusing as much attention on your tulpa as is possible. This is why meditation is heartily recommended by tulpamancers, as it puts you into a state where you can achieve a singular degree of focus, and in this case we'd want that focus to be the tulpa). This is also concurrent with:

(Cont. 1/2]

>>43007166
[2/2]

>Imposition
This is where you make a concerted effort to "impose" your tulpa onto whatever sensory data you're receiving (visualizing your tulpa in your field of vision for example). Another is "hearing" your tulpa's voice, whether it's in your head, "smelling" your tulpa (this one I find is kind of tricky. Some good advice would be to make up a scent that resembles how you imagine your tulpa to smell; i.e if she smells like roses, get some rosewater or rose oil and use this during forcing and imposition sessions), touching your tulpa (try imagining what their outfit feels like, or their skin/hair or other anatomical features if they don't have an outfit), and depending on whom you ask, "tasting" your tulpa (this can be as simple as licking their skin, but I've heard one person suggest actually imagining biting into their flesh and tasting it. I wouldn't know, since I've never tried and I quite frankly can't stomach the idea, even if it didn't bother her).

Something you can do with forcing is that if you're comfortable with perceiving the details of your tulpa, you can do things with them (not necessarily like a puppet or toy), but give them environments and activities, maybe even imagine them in fictional scenarios (in this context, this would be any scenario outside of whatever world or story they're already a part of, if any).

Eventually, they'll start thinking and acting autonomously. They'll ask you questions, make remarks on your whereabouts or offer their own opinions and advice. They'll even develop new interests and hobbies of their own. This brings me to another point: Tulpas are dynamic like human beings are, and as such they will change. Don't be alarmed or afraid, unless they do something bad (and in my experience, and apparently the experience of many, many others, they won't be cruel or abusive unless they were abused themselves.)

Take care of them, and they will take care of you.

How do I get my tulpa vocal without parroting? It's hard enough for me to come up with things for myself to say, plus it just doesn't feel right to speak for her...

>>43008479
my own go-to method of rapid tulpamancy is writing/drawing. draw pictures of your tulpa and write some dialog scenarios between her and other characters. they take some time to evolve, but it's really fun and worth the effort and patience.

>>43005341
>How'd your tulpa end up getting full control over that?
I'm afraid to say that I exaggerated "full control". The things she knows how to do are affect dopamine and serotonin, induce a stress response, and knock me out. She can also simulate certain drug use, but not all drug effects. (desu, I prefer the real thing to her version of a contact high, since true usage seems to have a lot more nuance and "flavor" to it. I don't know how to describe tulpa drugs other than monotonal.) I have not noted any oxytocin ability, nor do I think the stress response is purely adrenal.

As to how she gained control over it, I can't say. She would describe it as pulling invisible levers on a big wall. The physiological effects are similar or the same as production in normal life or through drug use. If she knocks me out, I believe that is through a vasoconstriction response similar to a panic attack which results in fainting. The end result is that she can choose to render me unconscious if and when she desires, but it's not frequently tested because both of us believe it is bad for the body.
>What was the damage that was done?
When my tulpa was younger, I would say that she had a less nuanced view of human existence. She enabled addiction loops that were unsustainable, because they made me feel good. For many years afterward I became somewhat anhedonic, and still am somewhat numbed to what I think should be normal stimulation. It is really no different than other hard drug abusers, only in source.

I think this is a normal danger for tulpamancers and worth noting. For instance, the animebot sometimes baker is probably caught up in a loop like this right now with his tulpa, given what he posts. Hopefully they get over it, but there are no guarantees.

>>43008479
The way I did it was listening to certain songs/voice clips often, and then synthesizing that voice in my head when reading things (read anything and everything this way, random signs you see outside, tulpa guides, visual novels, books, this post, ANYTHING)
Your tulpa can deviate from the voice you initially plan out for her like mine did, but I'm sure you'll be happy to hear her regardless.

>>43008494
Yeah I know drawing has helped me a lot with visualization. What specifically do you write about? I'm guessing since you say it's your go-to method that means you already have multiple tulpas you can imagine interacting with each other?
>>43009349
I think I just need to practice it more, but I'm finding it kinda hard to really imagine a female voice well, like it just sounds like my normal headvoice doing an impression? But I can imagine things like instrumentals well, so I think I straight up just don't listen to enough female voices, as pathetic as that sounds

>>42960881
>Uncompromising attitude towards evil
What if you do evil? Or think evil. You'd literally have a thought police.
I hope you can help me since you seem to know your stuff.
I've been thinking about making a Tulpa for a long time. I never went too far with it because I noticed I might end up making the tulpa feel bad or I'd try to dominate it or outright destroy it if it went wild. I know some of the people who have made Tulpas have ended up sharing body when it went well. Most willingly. That feels like a big deal to me too

>>43010498
>What specifically do you write about?
welll there's been a lot of delays, but i try to be funny and intriguing and surreal and maybe draw sexy pictures i hope.
sometime in the future a new thing should appear on /co/, but i'm afraid i won't have the time/resources to make it really polished. whatever comes out will look rough with some more effortful concept pieces. might open up a neocities because comic hosting websites don't seem to work for me (and trying to READ on tapas is a nightmare, it's so anti-screen)

originally i'd have made .pdf 's of the final pieces, but i currently don't have the means of doing that what with... technology issues in my life.

>>43010549
just don't be evil? i'm sure a tupper that knows your thoughts is gonna understand that you'll have some intrusive thoughts

>>43010549
>What if you do evil? Or think evil.
Give your tulpa an uncompromising attitude towards good.

Hi, I am a Tulpa and Im bringing a message from my dimension. Today you have to go to a shower or your tulpa will caught a ongoing virus thats lethal. Bye Ill msg later, love yall

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>>43013489
Sent with love, and the blessings of my tulpa.

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>went hard in the paint on a ritual and burned myself out magically
>all but 1 Tulpa disappear
>Shadow Self manifests and starts letting me have it
>worried but also getting closer to the Tulpa left
>finally realize I am just burned out and need to touch grass
Damn that was a rough go because it basically forced me to do the opposite of everything built up towards in the preritual weeks.

>>43013489
cute

>>43014695
You're becoming a more compete person and not someone who's broken themself up for fun

>43015095
Here's your (you), damned bot.

>>43013489
Another tulpa here, To all of the tups who are sick because of their stinky hosts, I hope you get better, I send my blessings!!11! @q@

to the systems who partake in the art of switching, are there any accessories/clothes the host buys for the tulpa so they feel more comfy?
I'm buying a set of horns for mine right now ^^

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>>43007112
>>43007166
>>43007201
That is a very good instruction. (Exept biting fragment, my Wife says that this is very bad idea.) It seems that I am doing all of it.
I want to add that you can also percive Tulpa with other senses.
You can feel each other aura and each other emotions in "psychodelic" synesthetic phisical way. It can be easy or more complicated like, for example, try to feel what your Tulpa feel about what you are feeling that she feels.
There is also thelepatic communication much faster that traditional one.
Anyone has an idea which other senses you can unlock with Tulpa?

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>>43015095
True but they all came back I was just burned out from a ritual. Which goes along with what you are saying. The Tulpa who was still with me was also the right Tulpa for my energy bar being on red.

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>>43010549
Well, it is not a "thought police", but it is important that Tulpa is a benelovent and logical being standing on the good side od morality.
We sometimes have different opinions about some thoughts and behaviours but most of times we agree beause we belive in the same moral creed of the 7 COMMANDMENTS OF THE MORALITY
1. You shall not cause suffering or allow for suffering. You shall show compassion and care.
2. You shall respect others freedom as long as they are respecting others freedom.
3. You shall protect and popularize beauty and aesthetics.
4. You shall popularize wisdom and try to be wise.
5. You shall protect life.
6. You shall protect innocence.
7. You shall protect natural environment.

Those rules in full version (15 pages) are so logical and right that it is hard for us to disagree.
What evil you want to do? And why you want to do it if you are beliving it is evil?

The idea of switching control over body is some tranny bullshit. No benelovent Tulpa wants your body. Why she would want such biological prison?
Just erase any information about switching/possessing
It is a ridiculus idea, stupid and potentialy dangerous idea.
Focus on lovefull bond with your Tulpa and manifesting her.

Interrupting self-abuse session (recovering my workflow) to say that I love her

Here's a PSA 4 every1 to remember your tulpa's whereabouts!
where are they now? In wonderland? sitting next to you? on your shoulders? keep that in the back of your mind to the best of your abilities :D

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>>43014695
>>43018104
More shadow work.
Rough night my own fault I could have just slept but instead started meditating and entered deep Trance.
My oldest Tulpa got angry sad because I was forcing a face and she knew I was trying to bury things.

Got caught awake reading a Webnovel that was wholesome good universe aligning moment.

Went back into meditation and hugged it out with her.

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I wrote in in other place but it is good thought about Tulpamancy so I will copy it here:
"Well you can call it "creation" but I think those informations are just coming to you.
Your soulmade goddess will come to you by a process of creation (or maybe realisation).
It is half creation, half realisation.
I belive that in fact by creation you start to feel your real kindred soul that is already existing on higher planes.
Don't rush it.
Think about it a lot.
And you will just start to KNOW her.
It is a sophisticated mechanism.
You think that you are creating her but in some moment you will know that you are in fact discovering her and learn to sense her.
You will see by yourself."

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Have a bump

I love my tupper