What if Hell is just a necessary stage of development for strong souls who choose to rely on reason rather than blind faith?
>>42963487yah supposedly thats the gameleft hand path to becoming yout own god
everyone goes through both hell and heaven in the afterlife.
>>42963487“Heaven” and “Hell” are relative distances to God. If you’re close to Him, you feel like you’re in paradise. If you’re far from Him, you feel like you’re damned. This is true whether you’re alive or dead; even the dry bones cried out in hopelessness in the vision of Ezekiel, and even they were promised the hope of resurrection. Faith is accepting that He, not we, is the scriptwriter of this play we all perform.
>>42963487What if life is hell and death is heaven?
>>42963487hell is when you no longer receive HELP in situations where you find yourself at a loss for words
>>42963624"God" never ever helped me in those situations
>>42963651never thought id be in the situation where id have to say say something like this ... but "skill issue"... its kill or be killed.
>>42963662Maybe God arbitrarily picks who he likes and who he hatesFuck you
>>42963681....im working on that... rigged game bullshit is bullshit fight the power
What if suffering is the meaning of life?
>>42963487Humans don’t go to hell. Eternal suffering is specifically reserved as a punishment for immortal beings.
Look i'm not trying to be hostile but i'll kill everyone out of convenience.
What if consciousness is jut analog computation?
>>42963487The flames purify the soul.
>>42963487Yes, the demons want to share their power with you because you're just so reasonable. Simply spend some time in hell and you'll be all powerful. Afterall, its not like demons would lie to you just to trap you in a place of eternal suffering.
>>42963487That would mean choosing reason is a sign of underdevelopment
What if there is no soul?
>>42963681It's not arbitrary, he favors the ratlike small hat tribe only. It's written in those desert scrolls that are so popular.
>>42963487"necessary", no. None of this is necessary. This is a dictatorship demanding your fealty, and punishing the disloyal. Most people don't adapt to this. They're betting on you giving up within a year, or 5, or 10, and begging skydaddy for help, all the while they ramp up the suffering. You follow, break, or invent.
I have faith that he'll is very real, and my hope in the torment and punishment of everlasting damnation fills my heart with joy and optimism toward the prospect of everlasting life in the lake of fire!
>>42963487What if Hell is not even REAL, but a human FABRICATION created with the intent to control other people by using this very concept or IDEA? Have you ever considered that? The christfaggots will say that Hell is REAL, but let me ask you, how do they know? HOW? Because the bible says so? They can't signal how HELL is REAL. They need to convince us that is REAL through appealing to SUPERSTITION and the FEAR of DEATH. Christians are the worst kind of people who exist in this Earth. The jews we know are evil beause we have seen their Talmud and read it and the jews doesn't lie in this sense, he is honest about how he sees us as cattles or goys. But the christians are an offspring of the jewish people and they are not honest like the jewish people. The christians don't know the truth, the jews knows that christianity is BS and HELL is BS and that even SATAN is BS, but the christians took all of those things and act as if they are REAL. Christians are crazy. But they think that they are sane. Their own bible gasligthing them by saying that the world sees them as crazy, BECAUSE THEY REALLY ARE,THIS IS THE TRUTH, but them the bible says that actaully the world sees them as crazy because thr world is STUPID. FUCK YOU! You want me to believe that all the cultures are wrong and they are stupid and these christians MORONS are the ones who are SANE? Nope. You gotta be really stupid to believe that.
>>42963487Hell isn't real. You already in it. It's the endless loop stuck in reality. Linear time. The material. From life to death, then to rebirth. That's the crucible. Hell is literally just a psyop.
>>42963828>What if consciousness is jut analog computation?It's not merely a computation though. There is no reason why a computation should have a sensory experience behind it. Consciousness carries computational functions, but it also experiences or feels the computation in the form of thought. If you solve a math problem, you are actually feeling into the linear process of the problem when solving and comprehending it. I believe computation is just one of many objects or contents that consciousness contains, along with qualia stimuli, like the experience of color or smell. Consciousness is the screen. It's a thing unto itself. Computation is something projected onto the screen. It's a thing for the consciousness to contain and also percieve.. consciousness is like a computer screen and user simultaneously. Computation and sensory days is like the information processed on the computers hardware. Consciousness is the faceless observer.
>>42966198>Hell isn't real. You already in it. It's the endless loop stuck in reality. Linear time. The material. From life to death, then to rebirth. That's the crucible. Hell is literally just a psyopI think hell exists, but it's more of a realm to purify souls before rebirth. I think it's like one of those old magnetic vhs tape erasers to remove residual information. Its a giant arc blast furnace for the soul recycler .
>>42966185I wish it was just made up by humans, it would be easier to escape. Look up NDE accounts of hell. Hell is a holographic projection made to control you, but that could be said about a lot of things. They can show you some scary shit. Their power hinges on your consent, and they'll trick you to get it. They trick you with a 3D reality where you bleed when cut, where you can't lift mountains, where demons rule the world, and when your consent matters most they'll use this conditioning against you. In all likelihood it's painfully simple to get out of here, but the exit is always just on the tip of your tongue.
I think our pride has something to do with it. I think in order for the trick not to work anymore, we have to admit we were tricked.
>>42966259>In all likelihood it's painfully simple to get out of here, but the exit is always just on the tip of your tongue.According to NDEs, it is very easy to escape. People burn there for what feels like a very long time, even an eternity, but it's easy to leave it. I think a lot of people end up just reincarnating to leave it. You're able to re-manifest what you are most immediately familiar with, which is incarnation back in the earth realm. I think there's heaven realms too. Robert Monroe confirmed this.A hell realm is just one I'm which will is more restricted than earth realms. Heaven is one in which will more readily manifests. Hell and earth realms are necessary to keep unprepared sould from going to heaven realms. If you are too gool of fear and can't manifest will or manifest it in a dysfunctional way, you don't want a foul like that in a heaven realm. That kind of will cannot be able to manifest more readily, so.its quarantined by the more developed souls in realms with more restrictions placed on it. Like a serial killer is given too much willpower on earth. So it's sent to a hell realm to contain it untill it understands.
>>42966312>hell>heavenYou're reading too much into this. This is not a matt patt game theory video where we talk about homers rough home life and how it led him to work at the power plant. Homer is a fictional character.
>>42966259Alright. So you can signal how Hell is real and you doing exactly the very action that signals that you don't have the truth at your side. I'm going to tell you how this work, in case that you don't know, I'm going to assume you don't know. When someone claims to know the truth then that person has the DUTY to signal how the person knows the truth or is in possession of the truth or holds the truth. A person who has authority over an object or thing can signal it authority. So when you come here and say all of that, but provides no signal, no proof, them you are just promoting an IDEA. You thing the IDEA of Hell os REAL, but you yourself can't signal how that is the case. HELL is only REAL in YOUR HEAD. Nobody argues against DEATH because DEATH manifest itself everyday all the time. No body doubts life because like death life manifests itself everyday all the time. But Hell? Nope. Hell is an IDEA. You are full of SHIT. You don't know that Hell is real if you kew you would be able to signal it. Hell is an IDEA. God is an IDEA. Death is not an IDEA. Death is real. We are all going to die and this is where things like GOD and HELL are born from. The Fear of what happens when we die. We follow different roads. You are following religion. Religion is a lie. But fuck you, go ahead. Keep on believing in Hell. I don't care. But don't come here sayign that Hell is real when you can't even signal it. Be honest. Admit that you beleive in Hell, but you can signal how it is real.
I hear silence today for the first time in almost a decade, it's beautiful.
>>42966331>You're reading too much into this. This is not a matt patt game theory video where we talk about homers rough home life and how it led him to work at the power plant.>Homer is a fictional characterYah Homer is a cartoon, but Hrll is real and so I are nuclear power plants. There are dynamivs driving this reality. The entire reality is made of pure consciousness and awareness. Souls are units of awareness in this field capable of exerting will. Souls capable of sustaining third density and the material universe have to be very pure and ascended. God has to be incredibly pure in intention and awareness to be God. God dreams up containment fields, either as the material plane of creation or Hell. Those that are incarnated as humans need to be there, otherwise they would compromise the entire order of reality. Souls are sent where they need to go through cause and effect. Souls that are less refined have more weight to them and they land where they need to go, just like bi products in an oil refinery.
>>42966393If that was the case why are they in heaven, and why are you down here? Their benevolence? Is that an excuse to have free reign to torture and bully humanity? No, I think it's loyalty. I think your AI graph isn't worth as much as you claim, and neither are theirs.
>>42966407>If that was the case why are they in heaven, and why are you down here?>Their benevolence? Is that an excuse to have free reign to torture and bully humanity?>No, I think it's loyalty. I think your AI graph isn't worth as much as you claim, and neither are theirs.My soul is less pure is why I'm here. I'm simply not competent enough to be in the heaven realm. It's like flying an aircraft or running a nuclear plant. God and angelic beings are just more qualified to rule reality. You don't want me flying a passenger plane, nor do you want my will go wrong the cosmos. Being God is a bit like jury duty. It's a lot of responsibility as well.
>>42966431> I'm simply not competent enough to be in the heaven realmLet go of these "I" connotations.Are you incompetent because of your spirit, or because of your body and brain? Those they planned out and gave you?It's like saying you're shit at a rogue-like because you got a guy with no arms, no legs, no eyes or ears and no nervous system; and going for the micro-transaction get the barbarian. Oh yeah we're such baying fucking retards shambling around aimlessly, PLEASE HELP US DEVELOPER N!GGERMAN IN THE SKY!!!Or, you can just refuse to play.
>>42963603fuck off
>>42966376based as fuck post
>>42966393"sin" is made up. it's not real
>>42966455>Let go of these "I" connotations.>Are you incompetent because of your spirit, or because of your body and brain? Those they planned out and gave you?>It's like saying you're shit at a rogue-like because you got a guy with no arms, no legs, no eyes or ears and no nervous system; and going for the micro-transaction get the barbarian.>Oh yeah we're such baying fucking retards shambling around aimlessly, PLEASE HELP US DEVELOPER N!GGERMAN IN THE SKY!!!>Or, you can just refuse to play.It's self evident were not that good at the level of manifestation and free reign were given. Look at the state of the world and what we do to it and eachother. We aren't 100 percent out brains either. We are the souls and wills, to which the brains and hearts contain. Egyptians referred to this as the Ka and Ba. Our wills are non physical aspects of our being. God weighs the contents of our hearts on a scale against a feather. Gods creation is also absolute perfection in its sum total, which we can't fully comprehend with our limited perception. The sooner you realize this, the sooner you can progress in this eternity.
>>42966515>sin" is made up. it's not realSin is law of consequence. It's as real as law of gravity. The supreme intellect is the author of all laws, both physical and ethical. Rob from others and lie and see how far that takes you. You might seem to get far, but it will all come back.
Isn't it so convenient how they offer you an "out" for loyalty? Our purpose; what is it? Is it to learn to be good, or to learn to be loyal?It can't be both, because one makes the other worthless. Someone could torture you for decades, say "I submit!" and be "clean" again. "Just forgive them man, they melt like the wicked witch when you do that, just be complacent in the machine, actually work for it, yeah."
>>42966518>>42966537
>>42966528People who believe in sin can't even agree 100% on what is sin and what isn't. But I'm sure you must have the correct version
>>42966537>Isn't it so convenient how they offer you an "out" for loyalty?>Our purpose; what is it? Is it to learn to be good, or to learn to be loyal?>It can't be both, because one makes the other worthless.>Someone could torture you for decades, say "I submit!" and be "clean" again.>"Just forgive them man, they melt like the wicked witch when you do that, just be complacent in the machine, actually work for it, yeah."Respect for your creator is part of the lesson. If you disrespect your creator, you disrespect yourself. If you curse the Lord, he will curse you. If you judge God, God will judge you by the same measure that you judge Him. If you love God, God will love you. There's no escape, because you are an object in God's mind and your very being is from God, on loan from Him. It's like a fish cursing the ocean.
>>42966567Then he is not God, and he doesn't deserve this place. What is he, a woman? Am I supposed to make him feel special and hot for this? >There's no escapethe words of a tyrant begging to be humbled
>>42966567You're disgusting and pathetic. You're a relic of the bronze age and should be thrown into the trash can of history.
>>42966548sin is when you punch me for no reason, and justice is when i get mad and hit you back. sin is the act of harming a person in a state where they can't fight back. harming a child, or the elderly, or infirm. that's what animals do, and we don't need animals in polite society.
>>42966548>People who believe in sin can't even agree 100% on what is sin and what isn't. But I'm sure you must have the correct versionSin is the idea our actions and what we do with our wills have cosmic significance, that we are accountable by the creator and responsible for what we do with our thoughts, wills, and actions.
>>42966580>and justice is when i get mad and hit you back.Are you implying that God is hurt by the people he created knowing they would sin sinning? Are you retarded?
>>42966578>You're disgusting and pathetic. You're a relic of the bronze age and should be thrown into the trash can of historyGo do whatever the hell you feel like doing with no regard for others and for your creator, and see how far it gets you, you fool.
>>42966591>Go do whatever the hell you feel like doing with no regard for others and for your creatorthe entity you call "my creator" would send me to hell simply for not believing in him, a literal victimless crime. Unless his feelings are so hurt by me not devoting my worship to him
>>42966589You reddit tier ignoramuses really believe your strawman arguments. God gave us free will and allowed us to make bad choices. He allowed for chaos for his creation to run semi-independently. And Gods judge.ent is not found from a bearded man in a cloud. It is found in cause and effect. It is also found in the depths of our own psyche. The inner voice we ignore or argue with when doing something bad.
You say letting go of ego is a virtue, and in the same sentence, the same breath, you worship the most egotistical, fragile being in theology. I know plenty of people who worship God, and say all that stuff about a plan, and a purpose. One of them got into a car accident 6 years ago, has been running around the whole time from doctor to doctor, denied every time or given crude treatments that don't work, has been living in agonizing pain the whole time, so bad she can't sleep. She still says there's a plan, that it'll all work out. When I think of the annoying shitheads responsible for this, and how they have managed to con people this bad, I feel nothing but disdain. I won't say "what a ride! thanks guy!", that's for sure.
>>42966609Do you even know what the word "strawman" means? Your book says non believers will go to Hell, I made no strawman.
>>42966203YesIts cognitive retroaction over its own computation that produces consciousness
>>42966621>o you even know what the word "strawman" means? Your book says non believers will go to Hell, I made no strawman.You're an annoying reddit atheist that likes to think you're intellectually superior to everyone who disagrees with you . Your that type that underestimates everyone that thinks differently from you. It's mental wankery, and you don't even see it.
>>42966646>You're an annoying reddit atheist that likes to think you're intellectually superior to everyone who disagrees with youSo, no? I'm not even an atheist. I'm totally open to the idea that the god of the bible exists in some form. I just look at his behavior as described in the bible and come to the conclusion that he's incredibly. You're the one making a strawman if all you can do is call me le reddit fedora atheist.
>>42966652*that he's incredibly evilAlso>Your that type that underestimates everyone that thinks differently from you. It's mental wankery, and you don't even see it.The projection is insane
>>42966646Ah yes, the guy that creates a world of gnashing teeth and tortures people for not liking him all that much. What a beacon of virtue. We should all be just like him.
>>42966662The anon you're replying to actually is just like his god, he is gleeful about people who are different than him being tortured for eternity. We really ought to burn every single bible, torah, talmud, and quran, and completely wipe all trace of these religions from history. They are the ultimate crime against humanity.
>>42966678You could be a good guy, but if you don't like God, sorry bud. You could be a bad guy, but if you like God, you are forgiven and given a seat at the table with your victims. The prerequisite has always been loyalty, that's what they're selecting for.
>>42963487Strong is relativeAre you strong enough to see through illusions?Are you strong enough to see through deception?Are you willing to put in the effort to pry out the truth?Are you strong enough to remain in control of yourself when everyone loses their mind and everything devolves into chaos, hate, and madness?Are you strong enough to empathetically relate to those you could possibly do harm to?Do you even have the ability to understand what others are going through or are you a sort of autist in denial or unknowingly?With great power comes great responsibility so will you be responsible and have restraint when necessary with the powers you have or will have?Are you strong enough to guide those that are still growing or possibly pave the novel path?
They will say it's all about learning to be good, and then turn around and contradict their last statement. These pinheads only know loyalty. It's said in the bible, God rewards a "child-like approach to worship", meaning "Don't fucking question me. I am your teacher. I'm always right." >The world has bad thing, that's because of people misusing their freewill>The world has good thing, that's because God intervened and controlled people to make good thing happenThere is not a thought in their heads.
>>42966686>low spirituality individual gets tricked by high spirituality malevolent individual into attacking high spirituality non malevolent entity just going about its day>squandered divided efforts>cannot and will not understand (yet) why its being asked to grow or is being dealt the hand its dealt
>>42966721>just going about its dayOh I thought he gave a shit about us. I thought every time a bad thing happened he was watching with binoculars and biting his fingernails to nubs, agonizing over his poor creations. The demons? You mean the manufactured demons? Those sent to non-believers to torture them and believers to test (torture) them? Yeah this guy had no hand in any of this bro. He's just going about his day.
>>42966652>So, no? I'm not even an atheist. I'm totally open to the idea that the god of the bible exists in some form. I just look at his behavior as described in the bible and come to the conclusion that he's incredibly. You're the one making a strawman if all you can do is call me le reddit fedora atheistI think God didn't create us to sin. He created us to have free will and agency, and sin was an outcome of this. When we are made in his likeness, to have consciousness and will, and we are egocentric brings with limited awareness, sin was probably an inevitable outcome. The sin of Adam and Eve was wanting to be higher than God after receiving knowledge and self awareness. But wanting this is a fools errand. God cast them into the present condition of death, toil, and suffering as a containment or quarantine. He has a plan for us to re-enter his kingdom outside of space-time, and the plan is to save the souls for his kingdom that are capable of the same love and compassion as the Christ. His spirit incarnated as Jesus Christ as a way of understanding the human condition, understanding what it's like to be his creation and offering up an exemplar for humanity to follow and to rectify his creation. Those that learn to forgive creation and man as he forgave creation and a portion of mankind (sons of Adam) will enter the Kingdom of Heaven. Those that don't will be left in the waters of chaos in full absence of God's presence. He will exit this realm, and the program will be terminated. Those with higher capacity to love God and to love others will enter a new creation, absent of chaos and sin. Those who are attached to chaos and sin will be blown away like chafe into the void of chaos, what I believe is the same realm that God's spirit hovered over and ordered into creation in Genesis 1.
>>42966744>I think God didn't create us to sin. He created us to have free will and agency, and sin was an outcome of this.And God in his all knowing omniscience didn't foresee that free will would result in sin? Think about this for two seconds
>>42966678>The anon you're replying to actually is just like his god, he is gleeful about people who are different than him being tortured for eternity. We really ought to burn every single bible, torah, talmud, and quran, and completely wipe all trace of these religions from history. They are the ultimate crime against humanity.I'm not gleeful at all nor do I feel any sort of satisfaction. I see it as a process or protocol of a divine order. I don't see damnation as any different from a justice system. It is the way it is. I don't like it that people have to go to prison anymore that people have to go to hell. It is what it is, and I'll tell you how to avoid it, but if you don't here it, you're sending yourself there.
>>42966763Arguing with them is like arguing with a brick wall. They are taught from a young age that if someone makes sense they are deceiving you.
>>42966777>nor do I feel any sort of satisfactionYou obviously do, since you believe it's justice
>>42966763>And God in his all knowing omniscience didn't foresee that free will would result in sin? Think about this for two secondsI'm sure he saw it, but it was necessary for the act of creation. I still think the creation I see is perfect, and God has a plan to bring it to an outcome of full perfection. Even with the existence of chaos and suffering, I see the material world and only see Gods brilliance and magnificence echoed in it.
>>42966777While we're making parallels to the justice system. Do you think someone should go to the gulag if they say "I don't really like America, it's pretty evil"?Oh but they were born in America, so really they're an extension of it, like an arm or a leg.
>>42966795>I'm sure he saw it, but it was necessary for the act of creationNecessary? Who is imposing these limits on God? Listen to yourself
>It is what it is>We can do nothing>There is no escapeI think you're just projecting your own fears, the reason why you pretend to like them, onto us.
>>42966790>You obviously do, since you believe it's justiceYou have the wrong idea of justice then and it's more of a reflection on how you percieve it. Because you see justice as a feeling of glee, a hedonic release when someone gets their comeuppons, you assume others have that feeling. This is projection on your part. I see justice like birth pains. To me it's very austere. Justice is stern, serious, and rational, like how you would want a judge to be. He isn't a peasant jeering on and laughing at an execution. He is sober minded and balanced.
>>42966805>Necessary? Who is imposing these limits on God? Listen to yourselfIt's not a limit. God willed us to have free will . And our sin was a necessary outcome. That's not a limit of God, that's a limit of us.
>>42963487Its just coercion. Read the Book of Enoch. They're human traffickers. They've been deceiving you people for centuries. They're behind all of these religious and civil rights charades with crisis actors because they're actually running a huge criminal racket in your countries. Jesus wants you to forgive these meat puppets.Jesus JEWS US by making us accept something that he knows shouldn't even exist to begin with and tells us to be grateful for it. He doesn't save us at all.How could a supreme being of such profound intellect fail so miserably. This creation is pathetic dogshit and deep down inside you know I'm right. In order to be God, you need to be perfect. Well this world isn't that and its not our fault that we were created here the way we were. It's their fault. So fuck them.
>>42966928Either that, or I am obviously God and the external world exists totally as a deception.You need to be totally perfect to be God.They're not perfect, they're shit for letting this abomination exist at all.
https://libraryofrickandria.com/hellish/
>>42966879Why does god punish sin when he chose to create it. And how is that not evil? And yes if you claim something is necessary for god to do you are imposing a limit on him
>>42966804>While we're making parallels to the justice system.>Do you think someone should go to the gulag if they say "I don't really like America, it's pretty evil"?>Oh but they were born in America, so really they're an extension of it, like an arm or a leg.A Gulag is an example of distorted justice. God judges our heart and souls, individually.
>>42966739>we want free will!>we want to experience everything!>noo not like that that guy's too evil in my subjective opinion based on my limited perceptionsYou think hes not trying to fix things on the fly? Be a little understanding and try to provide constructive criticism or at least help him in fixing and making things better.
>>42966678>burn every single bible, torah, talmud, and quran, and completely wipe all trace of these religions from history.This then legalize prostitution and lower the age of consent nationwide to match Euro standards. But that will never happen. Do you know why? Our country is controlled by the mob, thats why.
>>42966984>Why does god punish sin when he chose to create it.God didn't create sin. He allowed free will and chaos to enter the world to allow the simulation to run itself. He showed the way of righteousness to Adam and Eve. However Adam and Eve chose to be separate from God with their free will rather to continue to live righteously with God in Eden. Adam had original knowledge of God but also knowledge of good and evil. He was tempted to be his own God, which lead to ego and separation, and the fall frombeing with the supreme being. Sin is punished more as a law of cause and effect. Hell is the absence of God. It's not that God punished us in the human understanding of punishment. When we cut ourselves off from the Lord, we, out of necessity, end up in Hell, a realm devoid of God's love and intellect. Just as blowing out a candle puts you in a dark place.
Also, there's a difference between professing something out of fear, be it professing you are a Communist atheist, professing allegiance to the emperor, or professing you are a Catholic to evade persecution. ...and salvation through confession, baptism, and bring born again. One is an appeal to corrupt, human agency. Another is a spiritual transformation in which your soul pierces the veil of creation and comes to know that God is your Father through Jesus the messiah. Your awareness becomes altered when, through knowing Christ and his nature and being filled with the holy Spirit brings knowing that the God outside of creation is your Father. You become a little Christ, where Jesus is your big brother and role model to follow, and God is your Father through your relationship with Jesus, the great Christ. .
>>42967049The 'gods' I guess just threw dookie at the wall and ran with it. Random meat generator. All hell breaks loose. Total meatball insanity. Worldwide chimp out. Have to take a shit and jack off. Fuck this stupid world. Shake my fist at the sun. Rue the day, motherfucker!
>>42967227>The 'gods' I guess just threw dookie at the wall and ran with it. Random meat generator. All hell breaks loose. Total meatball insanity. Worldwide chimp out. Have to take a shit and jack off. Fuck this stupid world. Shake my fist at the sun. Rue the day, motherfucker!You only curse reality and curse God at your own peril. I can go on about that which is vs that what I think ought to be. However, our minds as humans are immensely limited. We are not in a place to judge this reality, as if we could construct a better one. The best we can do is use our senses to understand it and make the best of it. I believe this is a perfect cosmos, and I am convicted it is, despite the presence of injustice and pain.
The Lord is the ultimate good. The world we see is one in which the primordial waters of chaos could contain the most order. Gods word is pure order and goodness. Tohu vo Bohu, that which He spoke creation into is fundamentally chaotic and is outside God's nature of Logos. Injustice and suffering is what happens due to the chaos underlying the order. I believe the chaos waters are possibly pre-eternal, just as God is. God interfaced it at creation and will one day leave it behind as it was in the beginning, so shall it be in the end.
>>42967245I don't give a fuck.>as if we could construct a better oneHere's an idea. Blow the world up and kill everyone.
>>42967332>I don't give a fuck.>>as if we could construct a better one>Here's an idea. Blow the world up and kill everyone.You sound like a very miserable person, and I'm simply trying to say that you don't have to be, and it really doesn't help the world for people to be this bitter and angry. ...And most of all it doesn't help you.
>>42967358No, Satanic nigger kikes are using MKUltra on toddlers and trafficking people with dark sorcery and brainwashing people. You have to warn everyone.
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>>42967462>No, Satanic nigger kikes are using MKUltra on toddlers and trafficking people with dark sorcery and brainwashing people. You have to warn everyone.Yah, definitely warn people of all that, but keep in mind they they chose chaos , the void, and the serpent. It's up to you to choose the good and remember that the kingdom of heaven is within and that your father is the Good.
>>42963487That would mean God is limited and CANT develop souls without hell.So there is no reason to turn to him for any sort of salvation, and humans would be better off figuring out how to develop without hell on their own.
>>42968846I actually think God is a separate entity from Chaos. Chaos may be pre-eternal. After all God hovers over the face of the waters of chaos in Genesis 1. If it always existed, then he'll is probably the void in the absence of the Logos.
>>42972469God's nature is rational order and has little to do with chaos. He just interfaces it to make creation and new souls, and it requires Tohu va Bohu.
