Certain acts sit so far outside ordinary social and biological limits that performing them generates an extreme intensity of attention, secrecy, fear, dominance, and violation. That intensity is not neutral. In the shared field of consciousness it registers as a high-yield charge. For most people the charge is unbearable or immediately repulsive. For a smaller set of personalities, especially those who already move in environments of extreme power, low external consequence, and practiced dissociation, the charge becomes reinforcing.There are at least three overlapping layers:>1 Simple reward circuitry.Transgression under conditions of secrecy and power dumps dopamine, adrenaline, and a sense of absolute agency. Historical cases of cannibalism show the same pattern: once the prohibition is crossed and the act is survived, some individuals develop a persistent drive to repeat it. The same loop appears with certain forms of extreme sexual domination or ritualized violation. The brain learns that this particular intensity equals reward.>2 Conditioning through repetition and group reinforcement.When the act is shared (even silently) among people of similar status, it becomes a bonding mechanism and a rank signal. Participation marks who is willing to step outside the common moral field. Over time the group normalizes the behavior for itself while keeping it invisible to outsiders. The secrecy itself becomes part of the charge. Money and institutional protection remove the usual brakes and legal risk, social destruction, personal collapse…. so the loop can run longer and deeper..
>>42966226>3 Access to repressed layers of the field.This is the part that sits beyond ordinary addiction. Deep taboos are not arbitrary; they protect the boundary between ordinary shared reality and states of consciousness most people never touch, the darker and more repressed side of consciousness. Deliberately violating them can force a temporary rupture in the ordinary self and open a channel into denser, more primal, or more dissociated material. For some, that rupture feels like power, clarity, or a form of sovereignty. For others it simply becomes the only intensity still capable of cutting through numbness. In either case the act is used as a technology and drug: a way to punch through the surface of the shared dream into a higher amplitude region of the same field.>finallyWhether this crystallizes into a formal “cult” with doctrine and hierarchy is secondary. What matters is the convergent behavior. People who have the means, the inclination, and the protection repeatedly discover that certain prohibitions, once broken under controlled conditions, deliver a reliable psychological and energetic yield. The yield is part chemical, part social, and part ontological an alteration in how the self experiences its own agency and its relation to the rest of the field.Money does not create the drive. It removes the friction that would otherwise interrupt it. The denser the protection, the further the loop can be run, and the more the participants come to treat the extraction of that particular intensity as normal or even necessary. That is the functional core.
Good shit, thanks for posting. It summarizes what I think a lot of us know intuitively about what the elite cults get up to.
I don't have anything to say, just wanted to post here since it's very rare to see a meaningful, well thought out, well written post on this schizo board.for once, kudos to op.
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>>42966278>>42966281>>42966438Thank you, if only others would stop and take a moment to process this. It was never angels and demons, though I don’t deny there are things like them. But for the most part the lies, corruption and oppression have always been acts of humanity.
Idk man, this shit don't make sense to me. I cannot relate at all to any of these.I gueeesssss that normies tend to do shit like this due to normies being malformed biologically to permit such nonsensical, illogical, unnatural things to occur.Maybe I'm too autistic or sum, idk.Write it in a different, less wordcel, more simple way and maaaybe I might see the logic, but I cannot see this as a real thing people do as it is written. Complex words make head hurty, they're difficult and hard to understand; jet engines are easier than complex words, they're big boy legos! :D
>>42966961>if you insist The important question is not whether the people doing this belong to a cult, a secret society, or some other organized group. That is secondary. A cult is only a method of acquisition. The more interesting question is why certain people with enormous freedom, wealth, and protection would repeatedly seek out acts that are considered so profoundly taboo that most people cannot even bear to contemplate them.The simplest answer is that the taboo itself is part of the reward.A prohibition creates tension. Fear, disgust, curiosity, shame, arousal, secrecy, danger, and the knowledge that one has crossed a boundary all concentrate attention. Breaking the boundary releases that tension, and the brain can learn to crave the intensity. It becomes a drug. The act does not have to be pleasurable in the ordinary sense. The transgression itself becomes stimulating. Eventually the person needs something more extreme to produce the same feeling.But I don’t think that completely explains it.
>>42966961>>42967584There is something peculiar about the deepest taboos. They sit directly on top of the things the conscious mind has spent civilizations learning to repress: death, blood, sex, violence, domination, cannibalism, bodily decay, incest, humiliation, and the fear of losing the boundaries of the self. These are not random prohibitions. They are psychological fault lines.This is where concepts of Carl Jung become interesting. To deliberately descend into those forbidden parts of the psyche is to confront material that normally remains unconscious. The taboo becomes a doorway into the shadow. You are forcing the conscious mind into contact with something it normally keeps outside itself/Repressed.
>>42966961>>42967584>>42967592And this is where Wilhelm Reich’s idea of orgone fits into place. If consciousness is not merely something produced by the brain but part of a larger living field of some kind, then extreme emotional states are not simply private chemical events happening inside someone’s skull. They are movements of that said field(collective consciousness). Fear, sexual energy, violence, obsession, and ecstasy all produce enormous psychological intensity(“loosh” aka emotional energy). The taboo becomes a way of generating that intensity deliberately.In that sense, these people are not just committing a taboo for the sake of committing a taboo. They are feeding on what the taboo produces(“looshing”).
>>42966961>>42967584>>42967592>>42967602The act generates the charge. The charge produces the altered state. The altered state becomes rewarding. Repetition creates dependence. Eventually the person no longer needs a justification for the behavior because the behavior itself has become the justification.That also explains why secrecy and power matter so much. Money does not necessarily create the appetite. It removes the walls around it. If ordinary people have to worry about prison, poverty, reputation, family, or simply being rejected by society, those consequences interrupt the cycle. Extreme wealth and institutional protection can remove many of those consequences. The person can keep descending without being forced to stop.
>>42966961>>42967584>>42967592>>42967602>>42967607And once other people are involved, the social structure almost creates itself. You do not need a grand ideology. You only need people who share the appetite, protect one another, and benefit from keeping the behavior hidden. A secret society, a cult, a network, an institution, whatever name you give it, becomes a mechanism for maintaining access to the source of the addiction.The organization is therefore not the mystery. The appetite is.Cannibalism is an especially stark example because it crosses so many boundaries at once: death, the human body, food, identity, disgust, and the distinction between self and other. Certain historical cases also show that consuming human flesh can become compulsive for some individuals. Extreme sexual transgression can operate through similar mechanisms, particularly when secrecy, power, danger, and escalation become part of the experience.
>>42966961>>42967584>>42967592>>42967602>>42967607>>42967612My hypothesis simply goes one step further.Perhaps the psychological charge is not the whole phenomenon. Perhaps it is also energy.Perhaps what Wilhelm Reich was trying to describe with orgone, and what Carl Jung approached through the language of the psyche and the collective unconscious, are two descriptions of the same underlying process. The mind experiences the charge psychologically. The organism experiences it physically. And if consciousness is fundamental, the field itself experiences it as an alteration in its state.The deepest taboos would therefore be attractive precisely because they produce some of the strongest possible charges.>The act is the method.>The taboo is the trigger.>The psychological intensity is the drug.And, within this process, the resulting orgone is the thing being fed upon.>Everything else, the cult, the hierarchy, the money, the secrecy, the rituals, the social network, is infrastructure built around obtaining more of it.
>>42966278>>42966281>>42966438Thanks to me explaining it better to this anon >>42966961, when I eventually make this thread again I’ll use >>42967584 >>42967592 >>42967602 >>42967607 >>42967612 >>42967618I was simply able to explain it better this way. It really never was fallen angels or scary ayys was it? I find what the greeks originally used the word “Archon” for to be more accurate than what the Gnostics” used it for. Originally it meant rulers, and people in places of power. Not scary dark gods. I don’t want to go to far down that rabbit hole because honestly Incan keep going. And I simply don’t want to spiral.
>>42966226If one has understood Nietzsche, it's not necessary to overexplain such things. Will's seek power to more fully manifest their own Will. Some Will's are weak and pathetic, others are stronger and nobler; based on the character of the Will, the expression of power will change. It's life.
>>42967729After doing some research (just now) which was a cursory reading, desu I can agree with some of his ideas just not the “will to power”,the pursuit to happiness is alone to discredit the idea of “will to power” but not all of his stuff. He was right to try and force Europe to revaluate their old religious dogma and morals. I hope this is well said enough to convince you that I did just now go out of my way to learn who he was.
>>42967729I know your probably asking how I know of Carl Jung and Wilhelm Reich but not Nietzsche, it’s more or less I never got around to learning about him. wilhelm Reich was the one to really capture my attention and through learning about Wilhelm and his idea I went and did some reading on Carl Jung. BEFORE WE CONTINUE I must iterate I am no Plato. I don’t know everything but these individuals do in fact fascinate. I’m of the belief the psychological is spiritual.
https://libraryofrickandria.com/taboo/
>>42967698So it's just normies tackling taboos in a weird, fetishistic way?I wouldn't consider death, life, blood, cannibalism, decay and so on taboos, or maybe I'm too autistic to see things as taboos.Normies are weird. I'll go back at assembling my RC's jet engine now, all this weird talk is confusing. My little jet engine needed an overhaul because I crashed it in a tree and I didn't know if I broke something, so I did an overhaul, replaced broken parts and now I only have to reoil it and put it back where it belongs in my RC He-162. Cute little plane! :D
>>42967861Will to Power is far more base than a pursuit of happiness, Nietzsche was trying to distill the most basic emanation of the Will as a counterargument to Schopenhauer's Will to Live. It's on the order of, "I think, therefore I am," but Nietzsche BTFO Descartes super hard by correctly finding fault with only the first word of that famous phrase. Nietzsche is very much worth reading and studying, his philosophy and psychological observations about human behavior have great spiritual value even though he himself took great pains (fairly literally since he went insane in the pursuit of his philosophical ambitions) to not give himself the benefit of thinking in otherworldly terms.>>42967878>(((Wilhelm Reich)))>Carl Jung>I’m of the belief the psychological is spiritual.Well, then you're further along than those two. Reich isn't even worth talking about, it's enough to know he's a jew. Carl Jung is a reductive materialist who can't think in term outside of symbolic archetypes, his way of thinking robs life of its individual uniqueness. Julius Evola did a pretty good critique of him.More to the point of the thread though, those who engage or are drawn toward that which society considers taboo potentially have appetites bigger than the rest of their peers. But, whether an individual acts on them or how they act on such impulses/drives marks the strength and nobility of such people or lack thereof. Nothing wrong with having a big appetite in my view, there's more opportunity for ones strength to show itself in the self-mastery of such appetites or the indulgence of them.
>>42966226It makes perfect sense from a purely individual and psychological perspective. I believe people underestimate the role of the drug-like, chemical satisfaction that can accompany this kind of behavior. There is something more to this topic that I cannot quite formulate properly, but from a certain perspective, and I suspect this perspective is held by some of the people who engage in such behavior, there may be real, field-like transitional energy dynamics at play. The individual’s subjective experience of these "fields" can then give rise to beliefs that are supernatural in nature. But those beliefs themselves may be partly driven by the underlying reinforcement loop.
>>42969717In a way yes, but looshing is still involved.>>42969814I mean, I agree with you to some extent I just don’t really agree that everything is abut Acquiring more power or should be about that. But then again maybe I’m just not to the point where I can see that or fully understand what your typing. I’m more concerned with meaning and beauty I guess instead of the drive to be more.>>42970492I would agree, have you ever felt the “rush” or “haze” accompanying the release of a large amount of dopamine? It’s a real feeling and I suspect it can lead to a altered state where a person can have these paranormal experiences or are open to them. So to keep it simple I agree people underestimate the drugs and substances their own body produces and what they can lead to.
>>42971949>>42969814Let me clarify, maybe to some extent this is subjective? I do have a will to experience just not to grow? I want to go places, see more and to experience new things. For me it’s not to constantly acquire more or to prove myself. Does that make sense?
OP you understand that an equal and opposite reaction comes from your group pushing at this boundary, right?The more elites and non elites able to cover their tracks do this, the greater the ability of the kick backer growsWhat do you hate the field limit for?
>>42972159the opposite reaction people will eventually settle with world domination and stop the different groups of transgressors by getting rid of them in the physical world. Bringing the boundary back to its former self
>>42972159I think I understand what your trying to say if your talking about some kind of greater balance though I wouldn’t agree. Things are more subjective one side isn’t always fated to win. Unless I’m Proven otherwise I just see things more as if it were a struggle.As for why I hate the field limit? I want to be able to type full essays on here instead of risking being banned by the auto moderation system for repeatedly making comments to continue the subject. If auto moderation see’s you making a-lot of responses to the same comment in a single string then it thinks your spam and gives you a two day vacation.
>>42972272>Things are more subjective one side isn’t always fated to win. Unless I’m>Proven otherwise I just see things more as if it were a struggle.winning is a false impression. Everything keeps going, in this context winning doesn't make sense to write. Because there's not an end goal to achieveits merely the positions in the monad that switchesYou see it as winning because the impulses and addictions are predatory and physically rewarding to its participants.What is always fated to happen is the shifting of positionsThe longer and harder 1 side pushes, the faster and easier it gets for the opposite side to take control.once that someone takes control, things will then shifts time into what that former opposite now directs. Which will eventually give its own backlash. Depending on that owns actions of course
>Those who restrain Desire, do so because theirs is weak enough to be restrained (William Blake)
>>42972766>Babalon>66
>>42972766If your desires are stronger than you then i have bad news for you
>>42972766Who is this? QRD?
>>42972801One can get possessed by their own energy, most “demonic” possessions are likely just people of can’t regulate their Orgone.
