i had really nice SATS session last night, even this morning i was in a semi-hypnagogic state but kind of messed it up (but not badly). i'm such a stubborn old fool and i need to work on that in order to do SATS more properly.

Reminder that it's all about internal change.
Any method that won't let you go from anxious to completely calm today won't be able to cause the necessary transformation of self that results in external changes.
Practice your skills with purely internal goals first to get instant feedback but be willing to switch methods if nothing is happening.

>>42973865
How is me thinking thoughts a "method"? What is a state of being if not a thought that has been repeated for so long that it becomes almost invisible?

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ARTHOES ARE GETTING IN THE SWING OF THINGS
>arthoeanon moves to NH tmrw

None of this shit is real guys. You'll be fooled by your reticular activating system, high probability events and low IQ women into believing it it is. But go ahead and try to manifest $1 Billion dollars or being able to shoot fireballs (depending on how extreme of an interpretation of LoA you have) and you'll find out real soon it's a waste of time. You will delay progress towards your goals because you don't take action, and a few months or years from now you'll look back with regret at not having done shit to get what you want. This is a cope for the lazy, desperate or emotionally weak. There are better ways to deal with your emotions, get out of bad situations and get what you want. Until you take action nothing is going to change for you. The right type of action in the required amounts. That is the real secret.

>>42974991
I thought the same for some time but tried to manifest less probable desires and it works sometimes which is weird i stick with this belief system because it brings me more results than Christianity or witchcraft and rituals .
Some of the things that I manifested that have no explanation.
Went from using glasses to an almost 20/20 vision in my last eye exam,i was allergic to cats and I decided i was not anymore so it went away i had 2 cats since then no allergic reactions. Also impossible to get but somehow I got nudes from a woman that was not in my contacts somehow.
All of this i can't explain but I don't question it i just enjoy living in the end

Please someone prove the post above wrong. :(

>>42974991
>loosh harvester detected

>>42974991
prove it isn't real

>>42973570
Things are wonderful. My family easily helps everyone in need now and receives endless abundance in return. Things are better than ever and they continue to improve daily. Everyone who has ever helped me or my family is incredibly blessed and happy to see the immense wealth and endless happiness and success my family now enjoys

>>42976081
I hope so, but don't write it here -- that doesn't help you or us. Or maybe I'm just replying to a bot, who knows these days?

I know some people have different levels of hypnosis potential. So what causes that, and is there any way to get it higher? I'm not sure if it's just spiritual sensitivity, or if just being dumb might actually help you here. I did read an anon say that just affecting a blank mind with no will to resist helps with affirmations before -- maybe some of us are too resistant to outside influences and need to become retarded to have the easy success that some women seem to get.

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i've got very limited time, and through either my inability, procrastination or just my generally being a faggot, i've gotten into an untenable position, so if anyone could offer me any advice to help out quickly or perhaps even manifest my success from their end (if that's possible (from what i understand, it's not)), or anything else, i would appreciate it beyond words

i've gotten this far, but i don't know, it feels a bit different now
inspiration at the least would be better than nothing

>>42977185
>Burden of proof is on you.
No it's not, you started the conversation by making an assertion.

>>42977426
>loa doesn't work
works on my machine

>>42977426
This is a really roundabout way of refusing to acknowledge your assertion that "None of this shit is real guys."
>This is also quite likely
Not what you said, you said it's definitely not real.
>You can’t even prove that was me.
The saddest attempt at evasion I've ever read. Are you some kind of Jew or Hindoo?

>>42973570

I really wish this were real.

I want my chronic illness to be completely cured, and I want to enjoy a perfect physical condition and body.

I want to have my way with the 10/10 top model tier women I occasionally see on social media as much as I want.

I want to take an unimaginably horrific level of revenge on everyone who ever treated me badly.

I want to become a billionaire and enjoy material wealth to the fullest for the rest of my life, without any labor or hardship.

All of this would probably be difficult unless some kind of supernatural things are actually existed in this world.
So I truly, desperately wish these ideas were real, so that every single one of my desires would come true.

>>42977569
Okay, so you agree with me then that the original poster is a colossal faggot who needs to prove his point then, splendid. Thanks for not defending his stupidity anymore.

>>42977563
>wish
>want
>desperately wish

you have explained it to yourself why it is not working.

have you ever wondered why is it specifically dreams that create reality? why you have to close your eyes and give yourself in to do it? because that is something you do when you let something in. whenever i get visions i also feel the presence of someone else i don't know, he looks upon me and expects me to do something but i'm always too stubborn to do it right. do you think our dreams (and thus our manifestations) come from within us or do they come from someone else?

>>42973570
What results have you had OP? Can you list them? Anything physical?

>>42978017
Or even if you're not OP, can you answer what results you've got.

>>42977185
Not OP, but I have cured my stutter. I mean I can't really self doxx myself here if you want concrete proof, so just take this piece of anecdotal evidence.

>>42978017
you're no better than satan (intrusive thoughts) tempting Jesus in the desert, blessed are those who haven't seen and yet believe

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>>42978021
what of all the times it did? when people received information they did not have before from their dreams? or were inspired to do great acts because of their dreams?

>>42978038
I've cured my back pain, half of it was changing my mindset from it hurts to it never hurt in the first place, i believe convincing yourself that something has already happened in the past it changes the future for good

>>42978410
your negativity is the root of all disbelief, see how i never said the "hasn't worked" part and you implanted that yourself? that's your negativity taking over and blinding you, Again, It HAS happened and thats why it WILL happen

>>42978406
but dreams do create reality, SATS involves you stepping into the dream realm to shape the waking world.

>>42977578
I'm the original poster. I wasn't gonna reply cause I felt I said everything that needed to be said. But you are all no different from christians, muslims, jews, hindus, law of attraction people, wiccans, satanists, chaos magicians or whatever other school of religion, spirituality or magic

>Prove that my delusional beliefs aren't real

I came here to warn those who might still have some semblance of sanity not to go down the rabbit hole. Proving this isn't real is very simply. Manifest $1 Billion dollars and send every anon here $100k via crypto or something. You will not, because you can't manifest, because it is not real. And I already know all the copes in your arsenal

>I don't want to
>I don't need to
>Only works on my reality
>Can't manifest for others
>Only works under X condition
>Why would I do that?
>You still haven't disproved me

If manifestation were real, anybody here could manifest a fortune, give it away, then do it again. If something is real you don't need to get defensive and throw insults like a woman shifting the burden of proof from your lunatic claims on to the normal people saying you are demented and what you claim doesn't even work how you say it does. You would just do this simple test to prove you are correct. It would take all of 5 minutes to do so. But instead, you will continue to deflect and attack because you know you have no grounds to stand on, like the dumb and emotional women that you very evidently follow for this crap. The examples others have cited as success are still things that happen at random, it's a joke at best. NONE of you will ever manifest anything that is demonstrably impossible. You will not wake up tomorrow the CEO and majority stakeholder of a trillion dollar company, completely out of thin air. You are like the indians you use an insult. Those people are extremely prone to magical thinking and total stupidity in their beliefs. Loa communities are infested with them. Continue coping, you low IQ bitch

>>42978523
>wall of text cope
have you tried turning your frown upside down by any chance

>>42978664
right about what

To all people who don't believe this why keep posting as if posting here would give you what you want.
You can easily test this by yourself if it doesn't work move on ,if it works just change your mindset.
I laughed at manifestation girls a lot but I tested as Neville said but not with a ladder with something more unique.

>>42978883
no he isn't

>>42978038
Hey, what technique did you use?

>>42978946
No clue honestly, It just fucking happened. I think it was not really intentional, It was more like I stopped associating myself with the label of "stutter" if that makes sense after moving to a different environment (school to college). I am still very confused as to how the fuck it happened in all honestly. I haven't really been able to manifest other crap like hieght and attractiveness but I will do so soon.

>>42978830
>with something more unique.
Please share your success story.
Personally I tried, forgot about it, then I had to climb a ladder one or two weeks later although I haven't had to for many years and didn't have to since then. But nothing else I tried to manifest ever worked... By the way, I don't want to admit that these didn't work, I want to tell myself "Yes they did!" until they do indeed, but still.

Hi, update on the revenge I manifested on 3 coworkers:

>one is gone after resigning
>second one has a foot rotting or something so she's been removed from the office to work remotely, i haven't heard of her in weeks now except from my manager complaining that she couldn't do her job
>third one has extended his sick leave and says he's being bullied at work, he's burning out just like I manifested he would

Have a good weekend, happy manifesting.

>>42979030
>i will do soon
you already have what you described anon, that's the key of "getting" what you "want"

>>42979106
For me the idea of the ladder was too simple and i already had been in ladders at work or sometimes helping around the house i was an electrician for some time.
So I tried to manifest eating a fruit i never tasted just for kicks I imagined slicing it and biting into it I didn't knew the taste just imagined eating it it was a dragon fruit.
Of course I've seen pictures but never bought one or even saw one at my local supermarket so it was ideal and improbable it will be a perfect test.
1 month passes i only did that visualization stuff for like a week or so and it was sometimes then I get back to my usual shenanigans. I saw one at the supermarket i thought it would be cheating if I bought one so I walked home then at dinner mom visit led and she brought some fruit and in those fruits there was a dragonfruit. It was really as they say you don't need to move a finger the fruit landed on my table and I ate it.
How can you not believe this was manifested

>>42980185
> I imagined slicing it and biting into it I didn't knew the taste just imagined eating it it was a dragon fruit.
Were you disappointed when I actually tried dragon fruit? I was when I tried it. It looks cool and has an interesting name but doesn't really taste like anything.

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>>42980225
At least it wasn’t a durian. Apparently they taste okay but they smell like shit when you cut into them.
>anon manifests durian using esoteric magic
>instantly barfs and gets insane diarrhea shitflow

All the manifestation content online gives me goyim fatigue. I have proven it works multiple times on the most mundane things, like the ladder exercise. And yet I've never once made it work for something that would meaningfully improve my life or for anyone I could help.

>>42980225
Yeah it was bland , Prickly pear was surprisingly more sweet and juicy

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i read neville
i read transurfing
i watched lots of manifestation vids and stuff
it took alot , i mean alot, of effort but i manifested some trite things like a tennis ball and a strawberry cheesecake
it seemed really effortful and not fun
id rather be watching tv than trying to meditate
meditating actually really pisses me off, it is boring and not fun. i occasionaly do it spontaneously when i feel really euphoric but never to “try to feel better” or “get something”

someone posted brian withers on here and everything he says is correct and did align with everything i feel is correct
i experienced the loss of a loved one recently and while i cherish their memory and often think happily about our time together, i didnt get sad or traumatized or broken up over it

i also have become materially succesful to an extent that is totally out of scope of what my previous thoughts had me thinking was possible for me previously

all the angst i felt before regarding life stuff is gone and my relationships are really good now, everything is easy and i do fun thing all the time

i experience euphoria regularly , where it feels amazing to just lie around and feel my body. i know what heroin feels like and this is better because there is no comedown or withdrawals and it occurs frequently

i have zero hangups about women now and dont think about stupid things

so this all started working well for me as soon as i stopped trying to get stuff

i have also spontaneously experienced a healing of health without reliance on supplements or deugs

p.s. i normally dont post helpful stuff on this website because of how many hateful people are here. the reason i post this post is because there is no way to be hateful and high vibration. it’s just not possible, the universe doesnt work like tyat. so the idea that this may help hateful people be more hateful isnt valid because any hateful person applying these principles cant remain hateful.

>>42980185
this worked for me with a strawberry cheesecake, my aunt literally brought one to my door like 1.5 weeks after i began trying to manifest it

but like i said for me relying on manifestation via effort is too much work . am i expected to actively manifest every part of my life by visualizing everything? it seems not fun to do that. so thats why i choose high vibration living

>>42979152
>manifesting harm to people
this will surely end poorly for you, i hope you stop

>>42983697
People who have no religion or any coherent metaphysical framework but get into this stuff are generally just going to doom themselves. Sorry losers, but karma and Hell are quite real! And becoming completely absorbed in selfish behaviour and material gain is a sure way to end up damned.

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>>42977185
>Arthoe anon is doing chaos jazz piano music magic and he is a fox. This is obvious. Loa doesn’t work but that does.
JAH BLESS

And greetings from NH, bitches! Manifested a quiet atmosphere and had the best sleep in months yesterday.
>lots of arthoes and beachbunnies still out during the day

>>42973570
Why this image in particular for this thread in particular, friendo? I like it.

>>42985771
You gotta analyze the base components of your desire vector homie

>>42985771
Who are you quoting?

>>42983697
>>42984071
>NOOOO YOU CAN DO ANYTHING BUT NOT THATTTTT

>giggly asian girl in Walmart needs my assistance to reach a bedsheet
Arthoes are manifesting as Yokos.

>>42985961
They were quoting them

>>42986580
Thanks for the warning, fren

>>42974991
Demoralization fed post

I'm getting in shape with science.

I'll go manifest some cum

>>42974991
Skill issue.
>>42980642
>And yet I've never once made it work for something that would meaningfully improve my life or for anyone I could help.
Skill issue. Kill Yourself.
>>42984071
>karma and Hell are quite real! And becoming completely absorbed in selfish behaviour and material gain is a sure way to end up damned.
Spoken like a true slave. Yaass goy, slay! If life is so bad, then kill yourself. Your logic does follows, right?
>>42977563
Death is calling for you. Follow suit.
>>42978656
Citation needed.

Buckbroken dead general, it's time to finish it up. Everyone on this thread except me will die in his sleep tonight, and there's nothing you can do about it. Suffer in hell, faggots.

>>42990394
>Skill issue
What happen sharing your knowledge with others?

>>42983661
>Brian Withers
thanks for the reccomendation

I manifested myself to be thinner but my weight has not changed but everyone thinks ive lost lots of weight, ive even grown more pubic hair (on the lower part), the hair was so thin but now its getting really full

>>42990394
>Everyone on this thread except me will die in his sleep tonight
good, maybe i can stop worrying about that sp and get to re-roll my character. kinda sucks though that i need to suffer through another childhood so soon.

The mod that reigned over /m/ with an iron scepter now rendered impotent, a joy that is now holiday.

>>42990927
Congrats on the pubes, anon

>>42990927
I packed on a little flab from all my boozing last year but it visibly went down from working on it with self hypnosis. The change only took a few days. I don't know if 'manifestation' includes self hypnosis but anyway, there's that.

>>42980642
The truth is that you are the goyim. You are projecting your own fatigue because you cannot find a way to make even small improvements with the law.

>>42990927
How did you do that?
Funny how I try to manifest the opposite, I want to be smaller, gain weight, and less hair on my body.

>>42991018
I can't wait for animal themed cars to be a thing!

>>42990506
what *about*

Addicts manifest drugs so easy are they masters at loa?

Does anyone else whilst you're learning something new get that slightly feeling that you already "know" this subject and you're simply just "remembering" it? it's hard to word it but it feels like the subconscious nudging the conscious towards the truth or something similar

>>42975457
I effect change from a distance constantly all of the time on things I cannot touch

>>42991209
>I don't know if 'manifestation' includes self hypnosis but anyway, there's that.
Why wouldn't it be? Just because you didn't use a method preached by Neville doesn't make it any less valid. Don't get me wrong, his teachings definitely have their merits but they aren't the be-all end-all and it's unfortunate that /loa/ is obsessed with him to the extent that any other manifestation methods are met with contempt or seen as "wrong". It would be nice to see other methods and teaching being discussed as many work just as well or even better depending on the person but ultimately the results are what matter, not the method.

>>42993439
Amazing. How did it start? Did you learn?

Something weird happened this morning.
See, one of the few things that I try to manifest is being less tall, because I always hated feeling like a giraffe among normal people. And when I lay down on my bed, I have to be exactly centered or else my head or my feet will touch a border because I am only a few centimeters shorter than the bed, I am often upset about this.

So, this morning while still in bed, I felt my head touching the border of my bed, I was feeling it very clearly. Nothing unusual. But I thought "Weird, a moment ago my head was not touching the bed and I did not move at all" and it stopped, my head was not touching the bed anymore. I even moved, tilted my head, and I was away from the border. Ok, weird... Minutes later, it happened again, I felt very clearly the border of my bed, it was there against my head, I was sure, then I thought "It doesn't make sense" and I was away from it again without moving at all. Freaking weird.
When I got up, I thought maybe I was half sleeping, but it really did not feel like a half dream, it was very clear.
What happened??

Actually, something similar happened over a year ago, I was on my bicycle and for a moment my legs had to be fully stretched when the pedals were down, as if I was clearly shorter. Minutes later it was reversed, even when the pedals were down my legs were still folded, if I stretched my legs I would touch the ground, as if I was now even taller.

And yesterday during the afternoon it felt like I was seeing things from a slightly lower point of view than usual, as if I was shorter.

If it's manifesting at work, why does it keep changing?

>>42994491
you have gained Mister Fantastic/Monky D Luffy powers. congrats you are now Elastoman

Did Focus 12 session today then a Focus 15. Focusing on money after a client balked this morning, but I literally have another client where currently I’m acting as a media outreach agent for The New York Times.
>arthoeanon wants more
And so I am manifesting more jigglies to keep warm in NH

>>42994491
Caught in between states. Not a bad place to be. One barrier I see is that it’s a mental barrier in what Gurdjieff called “identification”. The long-short is that you probably enjoy 95% of being tall, but you want to exist where the inconveniences don’t exist. Why don’t you manifest a bigger bed?
>who the hell am I to tell you what to do?

>>42993439
Everyday, niggy

>>42992245
Star fox approaches nearer by the day

she still remembers me, she still cares about me and is interested in me. she simply takes long with her business over in the other city but she is on her way back to me.

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>>42994974
The client that balked at my client offer came back and offered me double the freelance work.
>gateway manifesting babeeeee
>snowbunny arthoe$ ligma and gužžlin me

I struggle with intrusive thoughts when I try to LOA

>>42996419
that's a weird thing to affirm but you do you i guess

>>42997456
don't be a smug cunt.

>>42996419
intrusive thoughts imply that there is a presence in there with you, look within and try to root it out.

>>42997892
a presence of what?

>>42997895
a spirit, a demon, something that can't be as easily categorized? i have a few spirits with me as well, i recognize two which are friendly to me and possibly a third one which is parasitic.

>>42997931
so what do I do about that?

>>42997941
the answer probably lies in the dream realm, so start keeping a dream journal: each time you wake up write down everything about the dream you just saw, even if you can't remember anything simply write "i can't remember what i saw last night" because it still shows desire to remember your dreams.

be careful though, you may get attacked while doing this. i had very unpleasant thoughts beamed into my head and a bunch of ad breaks in the dream realm when i attempted it.

>>42996419
Just keep trying to silence the thoughts, to make your mind totally empty. It's not easy at first but after a few weeks you'll succeed.

>>42997895
i have two voices in my head one tells me to take hormones and shoot up normal people, the other tells me to end my suffering.
Another one also tells me its time to visit my local black thug crack dealer and get fucked by him while im dressed like a woman.

>>42997736
>A CIA agent discovers the ability to manifest anything in his life by focusing his intention on his fantasies
interesting.

>>42996419
the strat is to immediately assert the opposite/desired form of unwanted intrusions

>>42999531
how?

>>42994762
>Elastoman
Had my size really changed I would have felt it I suppose. It was more like the border of the bed moved, not me. Same for the bicycle, it felt like the bicycle itself was bigger or smaller, not that I was really smaller or taller. Weird. Of course I would like to believe that it is really manifesting at work but it's more probable than I am just losing my mind.

>>43000250
nta but one thing that helped me was just inverting those conditions and what that may mean. It takes a bit of effort and creativity with your imagination. I haven't done much with this in terms of LoA, but in terms of mental well-being it's a worthwhile exercise, and you can discover the very fake and gay limits you're imposing on yourself, as opposed to the real limits you're dealing with.
>>42994699
Noice

The only time anything like manifesting/loa type stuff ever worked for me was cosmic ordering and sigil magick, but that's because I just want fuckee fuckee. A heads up though, if you get what you want do not take it for granted. It can go to your head when it all works and you have sex on tap from a girl way out of your league.

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Getting female attention is good so far
>the mission is underway
>the arthoes are mine

I’ve gotta practice cello to play some fireside Arthur Russell shit
>and then get my dick sucked

https://youtu.be/OtnOfstvefE?is=8tyMFyvAkeHmYQKT

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If feeling is the secret, then what is the secret to feeling?

>>43002124
close your eyes and give yourself into it.

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>arthoe anon’s old book gets attention after ten years (pic rel)
M A N I F E S T E D

>>43002227
I'd love be as retarded as you and just believe all the fake stories online with 0 evidence.

>>43002228
>loosh harvester detected

>>43002345
>gullible goy cattle detected

>>43002370
Bro please... just get a grip. Telling yourself words and posting them on 4chan isn't gonna magically make a partner appear.

has anyone tried "assuming" that jerking off gives you literal superpowers or super stat boosts, i could've been superman by now if i manifested this years ago and kept doing it

Tried the ladder method yesterday, and ended up having to walk around a ladder on the street today.
What are some other ideas I could try out? Has to be something I have no emotional investment in either way.

i feel her memory fading from my mind, she either will come or not, i have done what i can.

>>43002543
Revise and assume you have been doing so this entire time
>>43002383
Anon true happiness comes from within. In the confines of LoA this is doubly true. Don’t be so hard on yourself. Just feel as you would with a beautiful and caring partner

>>42980225
As a frequent dragon fruit eater, there are batch variations. Some are tasteless and some are sweet. Have you tried the ones with purple flesh? Those are really good
>>42980263
Durians are delicious and smell nice. They just stink up a room if left for a long time, that's where that idea came from

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>>42977716
nigga be manifesting that he doesnt have it and he thinks it aint working

>>43002246
But you manifest it too well and everybody dies tomorrow.

>>43002543
This makes me wonder, maybe the benefits of semen retention are a placebo effect, and we could have the same benefits while fapping just by assuming so.

>>43002888
you will never manifest anything, move on

>>43004206
i already manifested her once though.

>>43003453
>placebo effect
true but how come jews want you addicted to porn, perhaps turning the tables on the global jew and using porn as an unintended beneficial physical and mental catalyst might be the secret to conquering the world

>>42973570
Hi anons, recently I was able to kinda get the things that I want but not fully.

Kinda like going to Barbados second class instead of first or whatever.

>Wanted a 6 fig remote job, got the job, but I'd be a contractor for 3 months at a lower salary before going full time for the amount of money I visualized.

>Wanted to get back together with my SP after a year of no contact, but the relationship isn't where I want it to be yet.

So I kinda get like 70% of what I want and I'm grateful for that but why settle for less than the full thing?

My technique is just to spam visualizations until I get tired of it and then I let it unfold. I crash out a bunch in between but still treat the outcome as an unavoidable fact.

Is there something else I should be doing?

a lot of characters from my past have reached me, some more worrying than others. i managed to switch phone numbers with a qtpie chick, we will see if she has enough humor for the memes i'm about to send her.

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>>43005838
Pretty common. Some people hit home runs right away. Some people (myself included) tend to want to have a sort of belief progression. It’s as if your psychic censor says “Well maybe we’ll try believing this but only assuming 70% of it will work.”
But once you’ve had the experience once or twice you start to think “Ok, how far can we push it?”
I think that’s why Goddard recommended the ladder experiment. There’s very low stakes so your belief regulator says “Yeah sure, I guess there’s no harm in running this test” and when it happens it goes “Huh, well that’s neat.”
You absolutely can get 100% hits, even on things that seem crazy, but some of us take the scenic route to that point.
Somewhat related, after I realized this stuff works, I spent almost a full year doing nothing but examining my own psyche to try to understand what it was that I really truly desired. In a weird way, knowing it works kind of made me realize my life was always already awesome so I mostly only asked for little things every once in a while to test it and maintain my belief.
That said, I’m now leaning back towards pushing the limits, but not out of desperation, out of curiosity.

>>43005838
>before going full time for the amount of money I visualized.
Sounds like 100% to me. Sometimes it takes a while before you get fully what you manifested. The bridge of incidents works at its own pace.

>but the relationship isn't where I want it to be yet.
>yet
You are already seeing movement in the direction of your manifestation. Stay patient and calm in the knowledge that you already have what you previously wished for.

>Is there something else I should be doing?
Just persist. You had undeniable successes already, sometimes things just take time.

>focus briefly on what I want
>my brain snaps back and focuses really hard on the things I don't want
How the fuck do you stop this?

>>43009353
Conscious awareness is required to keep your mind in check. At first it can feel exhausting and frustrating but it gets easier with time. The key is not to battle with your mind but calmly smile at it and let it throw a tantrum. Daily meditation practice helps achieving this.

>>43008499
nice! we've been talking slowly now, we already knew each other before but it has been a really long time since we last saw each other. she is so much more beautiful than i remember her.

>>43007701
Please share your success, oh wizard. This will help those who struggle keep hope.

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>>42974991
can't imagine being a spiritually tranny to this level.

>>43007701
Yea I kinda noticed that when whatever visualizations materialize I kinda tend to undermine and cope that I "got lucky" or something.

Like I'm trying to disprove the fact that I got the thing that I wanted through visualizing. I think it's maybe because it's kinda scary? I bet it will go away the more I do it.

What were you able to manifest when pushing the limits? 90% of manifestation talk is about health, money or relationships so it's interesting where you go after you have it all sorted.

>>43009178
Thank you, that's very encouraging! Yea it's mainly impatience on my part, need to feel a bit more grateful for what I already have, but still persist.

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>>43009597
Ha, I’m no wizard but I appreciate the vote of confidence. That said, I’ll outline my experience below.
>>43009643
Sure thing. Several small things, primarily as tests. One of the first little ones that started to turn the tides of my belief was a piece of chocolate. It was effectively my ladder test. The next day a friend offered me a piece of chocolate, unprompted. Though this was somewhat convincing, the plausibility of it was less compelling than I’d hoped, so I manifested a cookie (figuring it was similar in terms of mundanity.) This time I received it from a stranger; I have not encountered her since. I recall laughing to myself while I ate the cookie and thinking to myself “Wow, ok maybe this really is something.”
Then I tested a twenty dollar bill, and found one in a parking lot on my way to buy an energy drink from a gas station. While buying it I had the audacity to think “Ha, if you really want to impress me, you’ll bring the sum back up to twenty after I spend this” whereupon I made my way back towards my car, discovering a five dollar bill in the parking lot. To be clear there was no other car present, and no sign of anyone. That was a very strange drive, as I had “voiced” the request mostly joking but had gotten a “hit” nevertheless.
Around this time I started to be a little more ambitious. Over the years I’ve obtained through manifestation or other occult means, right when they were needed the most, a car on three separate occasions for either very cheap or nothing at all: one for free, one via a trade in services equating to about 8 hours of labor, and one for a fraction of its value.
I’ve also manifested a computer (the pathway through which it arrived was again very mundane.) At this point I wanted to test what I perceived as the most difficult thing to manifest, namely money.

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I set the goal at a five figure windfall which harmed none, because a friend of mine had noted his greatest boost in a feeling of financial security was at about 5 figures. About three months later the windfall occurred. My reaction at that time was to become a little more serious about the practice, as I realized with a combination of excitement and concern that there didn’t appear to be a limit.
I had been investigating a host of different ideas surrounding this and other similar practices, as I imagine most anons on this board are doing. Around that time I began to understand a few concepts better by listening to Goddard’s books multiple times. The idea that “creation is finished” is very powerful. Equally powerful is the notion that this reality is very accommodating, so things work even if you’re not perfect. I’m convinced taking the pressure off led to improved success. In the third section I’ll outline my personal disposition which I believe accounted for much of the previous successes. Again. I’m no guru so take it with a grain of salt.
My next big manifestation attempt was kind of a doozy because it was an overhaul of my day to day life. I requested a career which offered financial stability (despite the fact that my profession is very much one of “feasts and famines”) as well as the time and space to train my body and mind. Though it felt like a tall order, I was emboldened by a list of successes which I’d kept from the beginning.
A few months later it arrived. My day consists of about 4 to 6 hours of actual “work” and the extra time I have is spent training myself as I had imagined. The benefits to my body and mind have been the greatest gifts in all of my endeavors. Nowadays I ask for very little, and assume in general that things will be good, and that even my struggles will be meaningful and useful. Obviously this belief has value regardless of supernatural implications.

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As for the philosophy/disposition, I make the following assumptions: first, harsh times motivate us to find solutions. If you’re here you’ve likely suffered quite a bit. This drives us to discover. I don’t want to marginalize people’s problems, but for me at least it led to the motivation to discover this stuff, and as such was worth it.
Secondly, reality cooperates if you try. You don’t have to be perfect, and even silly methods seem to work. The biggest key send to be to relax. This can be tough, especially if you’re in tough times. That said, here’s the mentality that worked for me:
I’m not sure if I heard it somewhere or if it was my own thought, but I try to think of these things like ordering from a restaurant. Would you stress out asking a waitress for bacon and eggs at a diner? No, you’d just ask. But you would ask in the language the waitress speaks. The subconscious seems to be fluent in feeling, proficient in sensory suggestion, and occasionally able to get enough to go off of spoken word (though this seems to be much less reliable.)
Anyway, you put the order in and off the waitress goes to get it. At that point do you sit there worrying if your meal will show up? No, you just chat with your buddies, enjoy yourself, live life. Then at some point OT comes the meal and you go “Oh great! Thank you.”
This thinking has a few benefits. It reduces pressure so you aren’t stressing about doing it right. It allows you to keep yourself focused on and enjoying your regular life. And it allows you to think of things as already done. The moment your order is in, it’s already done from your point of view. What the cook does isn’t your problem, don’t go back into the kitchen and bother the cook, just know the cook will do what cooks do best.
Anyway, that’s the short version. I must say again, I’m not a guru, but if my experiences are helpful to other anons, I’m happy for it.

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Oh, one more thing. Since you asked I’ll share some of the post self examination stuff, where things get a little weird. In brief I’ve
> healed from minor injuries much quicker than I thought possible - my lifestyle is demanding and minor injuries are common, so this is something I regularly observe
> tend to come across relevant books/information at the moment they’re needed
> experience luck as a matter of course, especially regarding little things
The strangest thing I ever got was experiential. I play a sport which requires excellent reaction time. I requested (via LOA practices) to experience the supreme state of reflexes/reaction time. It delivered. This falls into a strange category as there are no material results and the competition had zero stakes (just a friendly league.) That said, the experience was quite compelling and led to a perfect game. Strangest thing I’ve ever experienced, and difficult to explain. I found myself always in the position I needed to be in to succeed without thought, effort, or even awareness. I was just always already reacting exactly on time. I have not requested the experience again since I’d generally rather just do my best and experience my sport for the fun of it but…yeah, that’s one of those things I don’t share with people because it would just sound crazy.
In general I’ve been happy with relationships and friendships even prior to my attempts at this stuff, so I’ve never attempted that, really.
After all that, I am very cautious about what I choose, presently I’m manifesting a house with a few specific qualities for a very low price. Upon success I will report it. The greatest boon is this: I now perceive success in this and other venture which I sincerely pursue effectively guaranteed.

>>43010337
And you just visualize getting it while in sats then consider that "the order is in" ?

>>43010493
Yes, that’s really all there is to it. I lay down, relax, and imagine a scene that implies the wish fulfilled. Then I let go and allow myself to feel how that moment feels (usually gratitude.)
I don’t “try” or have any effort at all, I simply trust and allow whatever it is that’s guiding the process - call it God, the subconscious, the all, 4D consciousness, your higher self, whatever you’d like - to guide the experience. Then I just enjoy it, watching it unfold. If doubt pipes up I just think “Well of course that’s part of it, no big deal. I’m just enjoying the imagining of the scene anyway; God is smart enough to tell it’s only a fleeting little doubt” and that’s it. After some duration of time I feel like “Ok cool that’s enough of that” and return to regular life.
At that point if I start to think “well where is it?” or “what’s taking so long?” that’s when the “ordering at a restaurant” part is most useful. I just think “Well the cook is just making sure to prepare it with love and care” and return to living life without worrying about it.

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>>43010529
>>43010407
>>43010350
>>43010344
>>43010337
>pic rel


ARTHOE AT GOODWILL WITH MISFITS T-SHIRT LOVES ME
>not hot enough

I notice that two camps seem to form in these circles. Some of you focus on several things at once like something financially, something physical, etc. Others state they only focus on one thing at a time.

Does it "disrupt" your time or how things may unfold necessarily if you focus on different things in visualization, SATS or affirmations? For example, if a relationship goal is your greatest desire, do you find it better to focus on that alone? I think this works and plan to stick with one thing I truly want at a time for now just for simplicity.

Does anyone have any success stories regarding an non specific person? Like manifesting some random hot woman to be obsessed?

Kinda bullshit how I only learned about this stuff when it was already too late.
Like thanks God, I really could've used this information two decades ago when everything I held dear still existed.

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Last night, I was going to sleep on a call with my boyfriend. I like to troll him and to imagine stupid scenarios. My boyfriend participates in a group chat for his work (for a few years now) and I told him: "What would happen if you just started to spam gay porn in the chat and if confronted you'd tell your boss not that you were hacked, but that you just wanted to. Would they fire you?"

Anyway, I found it hilarious and we both went to bed.

This morning he tells me that a few hours later he woke up at night to pee and when he looked at the chat, another person in the chat started to spam GAY PORN at 4 AM. This has never happened before in the several years of that chats existence. It's a serious place, it's not for porn or goofs. The person has been blocked so far and we don't know if they got hacked, but they are in trouble as far as their work and reputation goes. I've seen the screenshots and later deleted messages in the chat on his phone when he screenshared.

What the actual fuck? Hahaha God is an INSANE TROLL
Did I manifest that or just felt the future?

>>43012131
The fuck? Don't @ me

>>43012119
Your boyfriend’s in a group chat. That means he gags guys. Or he will one day. You do know that right?

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>>43012158
Well, as long as he remains the top and does the gagging...

>>43010935
>manifesting non specific person
I usually don't care but on two occasions I vaguely wished for girls to pay more attention to me while I was in meditation, and the result was quite funny.
The first time, the following day an unknown ~50yo woman started talking to me about something thugs had set on fire, then she went on, she really seemed to be hitting on me while she was old enough to be my mother... A few days later, same thing with another ~50yo woman...
I accidentally manifested cougars. '-_-
The second times, many unknown girls started to say hello and smile at me, but they all were middle-schoolers... And you know, that smile teenagers have when they fantasies on an older boy. Ok I look young for an adult but not that young, it was weird. At first I thought they were mocking me, or maybe there was a youtuber or something that looked like me and they were mistaking me for him. It lasted a few weeks then it stopped.
I accidentally manifested being loli-anon 2.0. '-_-
I did not try a third time yet, I may attract guys.
I'm upset though because nothing I really wished ever manifested, this worked while I only vaguely wished for it and the result was not what I wanted.

>>43012119
Good job troll manifesting.

How to I manifest the death of someone?

>>43010839
Thanks Art Anon, and likewise. Good luck in your pursuits; may you be happy.
>>43010918
I’ve attempted both ways throughout my life. Both seem to work. Whatever the mechanism is behind all of this seems to be hyper capable, and I have never outpaced its capacity to “juggle” requests. That said, personally find life to be more enjoyable when I ask for one thing at a time because I tend to appreciate it more, and gratitude is a powerful and rewarding companion.

>>43012119
These are the kind of experiences that really make you question reality and be more careful what you wish for.
>Did I manifest that or just felt the future?
Sometimes it is impossible to tell. It may be better that way.

>>43016070
Yes, it kind of scared me afterwards because I also imagine bad things. But... I don't know. I can't really put my finger down what makes my imagination come true (if that is what happened, instead of seeing the future) because a lot of stuff I imagine vividly never comes to pass. But then random gay porn spam out of nowhere in my boyfriends work chat happens? Okay lmao.

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>>43012119
The gay porn spammer is also attacking the work chat now with different accounts, every few hours. Hahahaha.
My bf said "It's like he got possessed, there was no reason for this, no one was mad at anything and we never got an explanation from him why he's doing it, he just keeps coming"...

LOA possession?

not quite loa related but does anyone have methods for concentrating on reading for long periods of time or any period at all and not getting distracted

How seriously do you take the idea of not including negative terms in affirmations?

>>43016789
Speed reading is what you need. My eyes always jump around when reading long text, and it’s only natural to look for the meaning in nonfiction texts rather than get bogged down in every grammatical device
>excluding legalese

For concentration, there’s no better than binaural beats (which trigger brain wave states for concentration and slowing ADHD brain). I would avoid things like Gateway or Tom Campbell’s Binaural Beats, as those are more meant for meditation like LoA, astral projecting, et al.

What you’ll notice is that your brain will focus on absorbing information more readily as you’re in a state of hypnosis. Binaural beats also block out distractions. Typically, I set mine at slow bass frequency like 40hz and a beat of 1 - 2hz.

>>43016820
Pay attention to wishywashy words like “I hope that…” or “If that happens…” Come up with more present- and command-oriented language.
>I have a roster of arthoes
>women give me extra attention for existing
>Im rich

Hell, I go one step farther and say speculative stuff with the goals already assumed.
>now that arthoes love me, what should I build that would be even better?
>with my expansive house, house is it best to run my days so I can get paid doing nothing?

>>43017094
What about for example "I heal injury". Is the word "injury" to be avoided?

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>>42980185
>you can manifest billions by believing it cause my mom bought a new fruit
btw i actually tried for years with a pink tennis ball and it never worked.

>>43017368
>It didn't work for me so it can't work for anybody else. J-Just stop trying, okay?

>>43017368
I literally manifested living in another country for 6 months, a six figure job, the death of someone, and much much more. How the fuck couldn’t you manage with a tennis ball? I manifested two tennis balls dangling like nuts off of a deer statue in a bag in the town I used to live in (I don’t have the pic anymore as it was around 4 years ago)
Maybe the answer is to git gud, or maybe you’re just lying like a faggot

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>>43017111
It’s a little bit of NLP, but a phrase like “despite injuries, my arm is doing remarkably well.”

This works psychosomatically, too. If you have bad back pain or carpal tunnel or something, simply reassign the injury as being in the past and your new arm is healed better than ever, it short circuits negative thought loops through embedded commands. Self-talk is one such modality; you can also use affirmations or whatever to reinforce the new timeline.
>read Bandler and Grinder

>There was a cute blondie with babyfat at Market Basket and she was sniffing my cologne behind me in line
>Cute hoodie-wearing brunette giving me eyes but her checkout line was too damn long
>An older lady picked out a nice shoulder roast for me when I said, “That’s a good price.” and gave me a hearty unfakable smile
>Dude and lady at laundromat were super friendly and talkative about trannie hate and AI
The arthoes milk the manna from my presence

Pretending for failed middle age women general

>>43017660
>Dude I manifested this and that

Huh? What do you stand to gain by saying this?

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>>43017660
>things that never happened UM JUST TRUST ME BRO

>>43017751
>>43017763
What do you stand by sitting here and saying it doesn’t work when it works time and time again? Do you just samefag every day over something you don’t like?
>>43017746

>>43018241
People don't like to see children doing things that damage them, like you building this narcissistic schizophrenic God complex by lying to yourself. This behavior will have severe negative effects on you

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>>43018296
>noooooo u can't manifest your dream life!! will someone think of the CHILDREN

>>43019619
>noooooo u can't manifest your dream life!

Correct.

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>>43016111
now manifest your bf topping him.

I just received something I was trying to manifest for ages but it's only one of the two things I was picturing and I have no idea why it manifested. Cool though

>>43020459
what was it

>>43020955
>loosh harvester detected

>>43021273
>delusional loser detected

I wish my mother was dead

are some of you able to manifest women (like legit not, i was manifesting for months and then i found my gf so that means it works). I mean like you see someone in the street and you manifest that they come talk to you and it leads to more.

When you try to revise something, how do you know if it worked, you can't just go and check by yourself, do you? I feel like checking by yourself will make it fail.

See, a nice little nature spot where I used to often go was destroyed to build a parking lot... I try to revise this.
Many times while feeling out of my body in meditation (that's what I do instead of sats) I visualized my mother telling me that they didn't destroy it in the end, the big abandoned area next to it was enough, then being there and seeing that it's still there, touching a tree to be sure that it's real, being happy and relieved.

I did it so many times that I now feel that it's there. It is there. I decided that it's still there and I won't accept "no" as an answer from the universe, fuck it, I decide.

But I must wait for someone to tell me about it, I can't go and check by myself, I'm sure that if I do it will fail, it will be reversed to its destroyed version. But I've been waiting for weeks and nobody tells me.
Every time I come cross my mother I'm disappointed that she doesn't tell me.

I feel like I should not even ask here either because it will make it fail too, but I need help, I am often about to give up lately. You know that feeling, giving up and being sad is easier than fighting, and waiting without knowing is worse than having a bad news. It's hard to hold on. And it's not easy to avoid going near it.
What should I do?

>>43020955
I might agree if it wasn't something extremely specific

>>43021325
Be nice UwU

>>43022416
>>43023519
Revision aside, if you're waiting for signs from the 3D then that means you haven't truly convinced yourself yet.

>>43022093
I totally manifested a particular girl I wanted to see to walk past me in the street once. I concocted a whole story in my head where she gets into a car and drives to the exact spot where I was, and I willed in back in time by half an hour, and then I literally turned around and she was there.
Course, I didn't do anything. What the fuck do you do at that point? It was weird though.

>>43024069
Genuinely what do you do though?
Walk up to her all Johnny Bravo like?
I was mostly just surprised and impressed that something happened at all.

>>43023519
>Revision doesn’t change the event.
No matter what Neville said, some anons claimed to have revised events, like the death of a pet or an injury.
Personally I never did it for sure, things seemed to have changed but some improbable explanations existed. However this time if it works it would be a proof that revision is real, because there can't be a logical explanation for a nature spot with trees to come back after being totally destroyed. This makes this one much more important to me, which is not a good thing.

>>43023734
>If you're waiting for signs from the 3D then that means you haven't truly convinced yourself yet.
Maybe. The way I see it, it's like in a state of superposition until I either check or someone confirms it to me. If someone confirms, it collapses to the revised state and stays like that, but if I check by myself, it collapses back to the non-revised state. I'm not sure why I believe it works like this, it's like a very strong intuition.

>>43023744
>What is the actual mechanics behind this?
I don't think anybody knows for sure. To me "creation is finished" means that all possible versions are already written and you can't alter them but instead you can choose which one you experience like tuning to another radio station. So LOA doesn't alter reality, instead it makes you slide to the reality where your wish is about to happen. Revision is almost the same except that it makes you slide to a reality that is still almost identical to yours except that a particular recent event didn't happen.

>>43024702
>No matter what Neville said, some anons claimed to have revised events, like the death of a pet or an injury.

Yes and every day we have anons here say they are the anti-christ, a real vampire or a woman (despite having a cock) so maybe start using your head and don't accept people just writing shit without offering ANY PROOF whatsoever.

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Why does nobody ever manifest stuff that could benefit everyone? All the success stories I've read are always something personal. I'm not even asking for major stuff like curing cancer but I find it hard to believe nobody's ever tried to manifest something minor like idk bring the youtube dislikes back.

>>43024037
You fucked up not manifesting her just saying she finds you cute so it would give you more incentive to strike up a convo that would lead to a date. The fact you manifested this at all though is a step in the right direction, just redo it better in the future.

Ok maybe I'm retarded, but why can't you just affirm that "my manifestations reveal themselves in the 3D instantly"

Asking the important questions here >>43012758

Or at least how to manifest a person out of my life.

>>43027153
because you'd have to be arab prince level of rich to make that happen

>>43027173
>how to manifest a person out of my life.
you would be better off doing a sigil for this purpose

>>43027153
you can do that.... but you're probably in an established habit of a continuous reality, and thus would have to overcome that, one way or another.

>>43025649
you experience the world of your own priors. manifest those manifestors, if you wish to see them.

>>43027153
to put it another way: you CAN have a new rule about how fast you can write, but you have to write it at the old rule's speed limit, first.

I feel like in these threads there are always only beginners like me and trolls. The only replies we get are always: "No you can't do that lol, just give up lol".
If you take out the trolls, all that's left is questions, never answers, or at best "Maybe try this, I don't know, I never manifested anything.".
It feels like a school where there is no teacher, there are only pupils asking questions and nobody able to give real answers.

>>42974991
This shit is real guys. Have you ever thought of someone, mentioned a song, talked about a topic, or a mix of any of these things, only to have it pop up in some way later in the day? You talk about a friend, and you see them a couple of hours later unprompted; you think about a song out of nowhere you haven't listened to in years, only to have it pop up randomly on your YT front page, Spotify, Apple Music, radio, etc, etc, etc. It's effortless right? All this is, is weaponizing that synchronicity. There is discipline to this, as much as you don't want to hear that. The best way to prove this to yourself is being mindful of your thoughts throughout the day and what occurs. You will be surprised, but after that? It's your choice to take this novelty to the next step.

How do I get good at visualizing in first person. This might sound a little weird but I've always felt a bit detached from both reality and myself even as a kid, so I always tended to imagine myself in third person (despite not really knowing what I even look like in third person) but LOA seems to operate on first person. Does this really matter all that much if I can still evoke the same feelings in third person as I would be able to in first? Will it still fuck me even with my conscious awareness that the person I am seeing represents me?

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>doing Focus 12 to manifest arthoes
Got attacked by a loosh harvester client so my overall mood has been low vibrational and angry (semen retention related but still), so I’m heading into the astral to reorient my manifestations.

ARTHOES LIVE WITH ME IN BLISS

>>43027353
How would one go about making a sigil for that purpose? I understand the making of the symbol, but not the phrasing (I've heard about back firing) or charging. Should I do it for each person individually or one sigil for an entire group of people is possible?

I am rich.

>>43012119
>>43029870
I assume this phenomenon is directly related to manifesting, but it happens when you're not even trying? So is it like people somehow acquire a sudden awareness of something the subconscious is doing?

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>>43031525
BASED

>>43031836
I'm not sure how it works. It remains a mystery to me.

Either it's when you are not really trying or in my case it was because I was in a really "euphoric" state (I was giggling my ass off and rolling around on the bed, while imagining it) so maybe that? No clue.

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if loa works then why is my retarded mother, who believed in it deep enough to the point of almost choking, perpetually poor as shit while i, basically just subsisting on prayers and haphazardly scribbled charms while explicitly shunning loa, managed to build up speed for 12 hours and noclip out of the system's walls entirely.
why is it that she has to yet successfully manifest me actually talking to her again, surely she must be attempting that day after day

>>43032996
Prayer IS LoA
Doesn't matter if you're praying to some external omnipotent entity, the mechanism underneath is the same.

Prayer exists in the same realm as LOA and can actually be more effective in some cases. the trick; however, is to THANK God for the things most people waste time asking for. You simply ensure that your requests are in line with God's plan for you and then you pray, thanking him for what you want while genuinely and completely trusting that as the creator of the universe who exists outside of time, he has already given you those thing, you just haven't gotten to that part of the story yet.

With a little faith, you can break any jinx.

I'm tired of angel numbers! I don't want angel numbers, I want what I want and I want it now it's been years enough with these angel numbers already they're all over the place yet still no results my reality is the same for years!!

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Tips for trading these random negative thoughts for random outbursts of gratitude instead?

>>43037546
r u me

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>>43037652
I know others might have mentioned this to you already, but it's 100% effective: don't spend too much time alone. Find yourself a meditation group.
Some things are like lifting a table, near impossible on your own but easy when there's at least another person nearby

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>>43037546
>angel numbers
Anon, stop getting your advice from tiktok kids. I doubt you read ANY of the /LoA/ material if you're peddling that bullshit here.

>>43037546
>my reality is the same for years!!
as you command, so it is done and will continue to be so

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I've felt that true unmistakeable feeling of my wish being fulfilled but it actually never materialized

>>43039238
what was it

>>43039327
Big set for life lottery win. No longer having to worry about money again feel

>>43039337
It didn’t come true because thats a retarded wish you fucking moron

You manifest places people and things, not lottery numbers

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>>43039351
>le manifesting rules
Stick em up your ass

>>43039351
Why not? I thought the whole point was that you can give yourself whatever you want, no matter how unlikely the odds of you obtaining it are. Do some things have such a low base level of possibility that not even LoA can manipulate the odds in your favor?

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“Oh Gomez… It’s dark. It’s depressing. It’s desolate.” It says “toddler.” It’s a dream…

https://youtu.be/aXHGitS5Z9w?is=k_5D8mTA4yhpQZmz

I started saying affirmations a few weeks ago and ended up getting tickets for free!

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>>42973570
> He answereth him, and saith, O faithless generation, how long shall I be with you? how long shall I suffer you? bring him unto me.
> - Mark 9:19

>>43041414
Do you know the significance of sticking out one's tongue? I never really thought about it, but a lot of celebs take pics like that. Closing one eye while doing it can be a bit dubious though; it could be a suggestive/sexual thing, or it could possibly have a deeper meaning.

Something I know from working in the industry (for a short time) is that photographers generally dictate how their subject poses. Photographers know what their bosses want—the magazines, news outlets, etc whom they work for—and so they have a bunch of go-to poses that they use because they know that's what gets the public's attention. Rarely does the person being photographed ever do their own thing.

Anyways...

In ancient times it seems like sticking out your tongue was a taunt to cut it off; sort of like the ancient version of "come at me bro!"

>>42973570
The Law of Attraction is an idea brought into the mainstream by Rhonda Byrne. She wrote the bestselling self-help book "The Secret" published in 2006. It was also a movie. Both the book and the film sold millions of copies, but were cringe.

The concept of "The Secret" is exactly what you're describing—minus a few esoteric aspects.

The LoA boils down to obtaining anything you want by thinking about it a lot, mediating on it, and having the "right intentions."

The LoA essentially deletes free will. If you can cause a series of events to happen where fortune favors you greatly, then hypothetically you're influencing the actions of others—which sounds to me like you're hijacking their free will.

>>Imagination creates Reality
We observe our world and collectively agree upon what is real—and that is our reality. For example, we know the sun rises and sets in 24-hour cycles which change with the seasons. You cannot simply imagine there will be no sunset and manifest a sunny night. The same goes for things like gravity and time. People cannot simply stop these things with their minds.

>>Thinking Fourth-Dimensionally (time is an illusion)
These are mutually exclusive concepts. Furthermore, how can one think four dimensionally outside of simply imagining a tesseract—or being inside of one? Our entire world is in fact three-dimensional, thus our brains can't conceive of a fourth-dimensional world.

Time is not an illusion. The reason why time feels slower when we're young is because we're constantly exposed to new experiences and ideas. Psychedelic drugs act similarly. Time slows when we take stuff like psilocybin because our brains are being bombarded with new information via our primary five senses. Conversely, time only seems faster as we age because we do the same things routinely and consistently day-to-day.

I'd like to hear more about LoA from anyone who can articulate a good argument for it. I'm not a rage-baiter, just a hard skeptic.

>>43041584
>We observe our world and collectively agree upon what is real—and that is our reality.
I've been wondering for a while, if manifesting things that are radically life changing if not reality altering is impossible because you would be a lone soul trying to manifest against the collective beliefs of pretty much everyone else alive. The more the rest of humanity believes something to be impossible, the more impossible it will be, because they believe it, and their collective belief has a far greater cosmic weight than your lone defiance of it. I assume this is also why schizos tend to have nothing to show for their eccentricities despite their ironclad belief that they are right.

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>>43041584
Keep being a skeptic

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MY ARTHOES LOVE TO VISIT THE GUINEA PIG SANCTUARY

>>43042234
You're absolutely correct about what you said—and you put it eloquently—but the sociopolitical issue of crowd mentality, beliefs, and blind traditional thinking isn't what I meant by "collectively." I am referring to the scientific method and you're thinking of crowd mentality. Putting aside those who hijack the word "science" for evil, you certainly sound intelligent enough to know what I mean about the scientific method.

Here's what I mean:
We observe the same things and therefore we can make certain bold and safe assumptions about what is and what is not around us based on observable phenomena. One is about belief, and the other about collecting, reporting, and comparing data.

You and I are standing on a hill, and we're joking about how people believe in airplanes. We've never seen an airplane before. Another anon walks up on our hill, and he says, "I just saw an airplane flying over there beyond the other hill!"
Because never seen an airplane, we're skeptical, so we go and see for ourselves. Anon explains to us what a plane is, and we observe the plane flying. In the coming days and weeks, we observe more planes; we go to a landing strip and see one up close, and we learn more about how they work. Now we've learned that airplanes are real.

What's just as old (and just as sturdy an argument) is that we can more or less figure out what is real and what the absolutes are in our reality by relying on each other's collection and reporting of data. For roughly the last 120 years, we've had increasingly better and better technology that's allowed us to see and experience what is and isn't possible. Furthermore, in the West, we have about 400-500 years of human history in which we've built upon what is and isn't—general rules of reality, what is possible, what is not, and what is totally out of our grasp.

Manifesting something tangible from one's thoughts has been tried since the dawn of time.

I can sum up everything I've said here in this one sentence:

The issue with the LoA is that there's zero proof of any kind that it truly works.

Claims of people getting rich, finding their soulmate, getting their dream job, and all manner of great things that've happened to practitioners of the LoA cannot stand up to the simple scrutiny that these are nothing more than lucky coincidences.
...but hear me out...

Our minds possess immense power. An excellent example is how people with severe anxiety disorders regularly make themselves physically ill—cardiac, pulmonary, and gastrointestinal issues are common—and these symptoms are very real. Every year, a few of these people give themselves actual heart attacks.

In the LoA parlance, such things are "manifestations" but this power does not extend to tangible things manifesting—and we can use anxiety disorders as an example

People with gephyrophobia have an intense fear crossing big bridges. For some it is all they think about while they drive. They believe that if they drive over a bridge that it will break, and they'll fall to the water in their car. Hundreds of thousands of people struggle with this phobia. A major part of their therapy is termed "exposure therapy" where they're tasked with crossing a bridge. This likely takes place daily across the US.

»»»Therefore, if the LoA is indeed real, why haven't these people manifested a bridge collapse?

The same can be said for many other people who constantly dwell on tragic things happening, yet they never do. Based on the LoA, this should produce a resulting disaster quite frequently, but it doesn't.

Final Note:
I love the paranormal and novel ideas about the mind and reality.

>>43042440
Thanks anon. That's a nice collection of counter-arguments. I didn't realize how big this LoA thing had gotten. Like I mentioned, it used to be attached to the book and movie "The Secret" and called the Law of Attraction; same basic concept, new paint-job.

>>43045188
nobody cares stop crying you're just low class millennial trash if im being honest. like. ok you're dumb poor trash obviously so obvi ur thoughts are making reality. hilarious.

>>43045037
WOAH thanks ChaTGPT!!!!!

>>43045527
Damn, can't a nigga type coherently without being accused of being AI? [spoiler]It's happened to me before too.[/spoiler]

>>43031836
I've played around with it. Usually, it happens more times than not if it's a passing thought than it is intentional. It's a small thing, but it's fun to play around with and try to master. I've played around to getting specific songs on my playlists play in order while they're on shuffle, had some RNG wins on turn based games, etc. Hell, I even got one of my coworkers to walk across the street almost daily to spot me a coffee a while back.
Now this is different from sitting and visualizing, right, but the common denominator is the fact that you don't linger on it. Which, in our current society where people are used to instant gratification, is difficult. It's definitely something to be disciplined.

>>43045547
Nigga only chatGPT would say something like "You're absolutely correct about what you said—and you put it eloquently—"

>>43042440
But heres the problem. There is no "LOA Cult".

If you're not an egregious massive fag, you won't,
>Fall for coaches
>Create negative loops
>Writhe in your misery
>Complain about manifesting whilst also believing in it

I've seen people get thrown into negative spirals, pay for coaches and that's honestly the worst of it, WHICH YOU CAN AVOID BY NOT BEING A RETARD.

Neville himself never asked you to sell your bonds, to throw yourself overboard. None of this requires you to pay a price in the world of caeser.

I rarely interact or get to talk about LOA, this thread is mostly trolls and BS, and irl i never talk about it, I used to discuss it with my ex but even then, we refrained from too heavy of a discussion lest it strain actual practice.

Every negative thing I see about LOA is mostly retards who got burned and couldnt persist, and got salty about it to the point they type up all of this big bullshit. Just dont be a retard

>>43043156
rotissery or deepfried?

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>>43046172
ARTHOES MAPLE MY SYRUP

>>43045948
The weak just can't handle good news.

>>43047103
MANIFESTATION STORY
>had a stupid client vindictively steal my work and scam me for $600, adding threats of legal action and telling me that "I didn't do anything" for his media outreach and a scammer (I'm not)
>one hour later, a NY Times reporter gets back to me telling me that they've actually re-reviewed the work I sent two weeks back
>I forward this to the client (after judgment was ruled against me) and wait for the response.
I still owe the money, but the client is most certainly seething because a) if he sues me, he gets no national news focus and b) if he wants the media exposure, he has to reverse all fees and ask for forgiveness.

I couldn't have found a more elegant way to sum up this project.

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Visualization is tough for me. Literal hours of just sitting back and imagining without effort, and all I get are visuals that have nothing to do with what I'm trying to manifest. Not sure why my subconscious is so uncooperative here, but my mind is messed up in a lot of ways. Anyway, time to get drunk and try harder -- momma didn't raise no quitter.

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>have interview last Friday for a position I’ve wanted for years
>interview goes very well, interviewer walks me through the process for the next steps this Friday
>Im extremely confident with interviews, I pretty much assume and believe I’ve got the job already
>get email today telling me they’re going with someone else
Explain this you fucking faggots

>>43049711
Explain what? I can't examine the infinitely complex contents of your subconscious. Just be happy you got a result that was almost what you wanted and try again, faggot.

>>43049711
>>43049711
if you weren’t manifesting being a contrarian loser then your thought process would be “oh gee i went through a bunch of interviews but they probably went with some hr karen instead..why don’t i self-examine why im manifesting going through all the race but getting just to second place” nah bro you just stop right at the finish line cuz what would happen if you could actually be cool winner who was happy all the time? you would have to do terrible horrible things such as:travel world,go eat sushi with gf/random chick,go do something fun weekend like surfing,eat whatever you want and never gain weight etc etc but instead you want very DEEEEP and tragic life like gundam or whatever where you sit im the back and mald because good things could never happen to lame-o like u right?

>>43049795
>doesn’t work
>”it almost worked so it works!”
uh-huh

>>43050215
ok so your just a perfectionist then? hopefully you can understand that 95% is still a passing grade on the test however if you want 100% then simply study or else forever be lost to your series of basic fallacies and your binary thinking that while rational in some aspects completely falls apart and is mogged by the fact everything is irrational in the human experience.

Why is it, and its not the first time this happened, the more I dread an outing, errand etc the better it goes? I dont force it either, it just happens naturally. While when Im looking forward to one or thinking itll go very good, its just meh or some complications come up.

I sat outside the beach here in NH illuminated by the street sign casting a neon light show as I manifested my new reality. Red, GREEN, yellow. I made a pact to manifest a new reality of arthoes. Female attention is going well. Business is in danger, so I just focus on a visualization while doing day-long meditation.

RED -> stop negative thought loops
GREEN -> focus on the cash
YELLOW -> beware of loosh harvesters

Angel numbers out the wazoo
>the universe abides

I also found where the sexy arthoes work.
> IT IS DESTINY

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>>43050438
Pic rel is vibe

If I do a general robotic affirmation like 'she loves me' will this eventually bring a random woman into my life or does it need to be specific?

>>43049711
> I pretty much assume and believe I’ve got the job already
>Get a negative sign from the world
>Gives up immediately

Thank god I stopped browsing this thread. The answer is you should have kept persisting in it. Or found a better thing to want. There are plenty of anecdotes and incidents where things happen despite what reality shows in the moment.

And in Caesars world you could just do what you would have done anyway, which is apply somewhere better.

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Any of you had experience curing chronic diseases and conditions?

And if I don't do whatever big thing you imagined I should do at this time, will you still believe?

>>43009643
>think it's maybe because it's kinda scary?
I've had some big manifestations and it is indeed scary. i think after a big one i kinda street getting mental blocks variety of the implications
>>43010337
>>43010344
>>43010350
thanks for taking the time to write this
>The subconscious seems to be fluent in feeling, proficient in sensory suggestion, and occasionally able to get enough to go off of spoken word (though this seems to be much less reliable.)
lately i think I've been using self talk as a way to manifest without much results. most of my success have come from imagining a state where the thing have already happened while in a relaxed state before sleep

>>43052140
sorry for all the mistypes. I'm phone posting

>>43052140
>I've had some big manifestations
please share.

>>43049370
Update: I did briefly see my desired face a few minutes ago. Never doompost, never blackpill.

>>43053324
too many to list, the biggest oas a dead broke neet in his 30s with zero income i got 50k. it was crypto, i got an airdrop and flipped it till 50k keep in mind over 90% of people lose in crypto and i was no expert. and most that do make money give it back. the method i used when laying in bed i imagined i was in a different reality where my wallet had the desired amount, to give myself leeway to believe it i just said "its temporary just inhabit this reality for a while". another one was being deathly ill and coming back to full health without visitining any doctors, when i felt a pain i reframed it as proof that my body is healing, i gave the pain a different "meaning" and sighed relief instead of panicking. a lot of smaller ones, like a free pc, same method as before

>>43053852
also keep in mind that with both big manifestations there were periods where i felt completely defeated and where i saw no way for these things to happen

>>43053993
>>43053852
>feeling completely defeated
>lifeline pops up
I had this happen twice; one was an airdrop of about $12k and the other was $10k in a lottery win. I felt like everything was the end and there was no hope. I've also had the new computer one where I was manifesting a new one and at the point it felt done my current computer broke, my family just happened to have the exact one I wanted so I got that for free. I still don't know the process for this though I just sort of relax, imagine my life and then sometimes it happens and other times not. By the same token, I have also manifested my whole life falling apart and being hospitalized but that was more of a fear seeping through than a manifestation.
I haven't gotten anything I truly wanted out of it though.

My subconscious is really angry and afraid today. I checked my reality yesterday and got an awful reality check.

He said "If this doesn't work, we're doomed!". Personally I think I'm calm but my body is in a state of panic.

Should I be visualizing my dream / future in focus 10? 12? at the highest state I'm able to get to?

It's ok if you cannot manifest maybe this is not for you. Come back now to our embrace and do as we tell you.

>>42974991
Eh, it kind of is real, as much as any other occult practice, that is. It's all self-programming, no chaos magickian, Thelemite, Goetite, or any other practice follower can shoot fireballs or conjure truckloads of money. You can program your own psyche to act towards certain outcomes, though, that is fully possible with any of these systems, LoA included.

>>42983661
>brian withers
Decided to check this guy out. One of the examples he gives is a purple Rolls Royce. I did manage a RR, but it wasn't purple. I don't think I've ever seen a RR in my town, ever. I don't know how to take this.

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>angel numbers nonstop
ARTHOES GO ON SEXY HIKES WITH ME EVERYDAY

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>>43054580
Don’t worry about that. It’s just a momentum thing. It’s kind of like if you’ve been dribbling a ball (feeding negative thoughts) and then suddenly stop, the ball might still bounce a few times, or you might even accidentally tap it lightly, but if you intend to stop pouring energy into it the ball will eventually drop bouncing and you’ll succeed.
So, ya know, address challenges that pop up in life but don’t feed them with extra stress and whatnot; simply by noticing that and turning that intensity down a bit means you’ll ultimately gain a lot of control over that momentum.
Sometimes a body holds stress a little longer than the mind, no big deal. What you’re experiencing is normal and you’ll ultimately get a handle on it.
You got this, anon.

>>43056300
> makes post about angel numbers
> gets dubs on that same post
based and clearly on the right track

I know how easy manifesting is and it’s basically apart of life. But what I’m scared is that all of these good things happening to me.

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Does this count as a successful manifestation?

>>43049711
The other person manifested harder.

>>43049711
First, there is often a distinct difference between applying conscious confidence during the process and fully embodying the passive identity of someone who already has the outcome. You can feel completely confident during an interview, perform flawlessly, and logically assume you got it, but if there is an underlying core belief that good opportunities fall through at the last minute or that you have to chase success, the 3D reality will reflect that deeper baseline self-concept rather than your surface-level optimism.

Second, the 3D physical world is considered a delayed reflection, a shadow of past assumptions, while the bridge of incidents unfolds. An automated rejection email or a "no" in the present moment is frequently just a temporary plot point, not the final destination. Reacting to the email as a absolute failure accepts the rejection as your final state, whereas recognizing that reality often restructures itself through unexpected twists, like the hired candidate backing out or a better role opening up immediately, allows the original assumption to still solidify into fact.

>fucked my teeth during a depressive patch
>lost career
>lost my residence (thankfully selling it)
>no income
>tfw no gf
How to fix?

>>43057178
If you really need to be told "how to fix" in a thread with the solution literally in the name, and all the posts here giving the directions of how to fix it, you are probably too retarded to do anything about it.

I don't believe in the law of attraction, but I think I probably do believe in chaos magick. I'm a naturalist, but most of what we experience as humans is a mental construct, and if 90% of what we experience is just stuff our minds made up, then it makes sense that we should be able to manipulate and reshape our reality and other people's.

How the hell do I settle down enough to get into that state of feeling like I'm floating? I've never been able to sit still and would love to just be able to completely relax at any time like my cat can. Either way, I'm just going to get some booze to fix this for now.

>>43057205
None of this is LoA
Bye

>>43057294
it's literally just practice. your best bet is starting small if it's too daunting. 5 min meditation daily. if even that is too much then you don't want it enough right now

>>43057205
chaos magick and loa are the same thing. so is prayer. all are techniques that get you in the feeling of "having it" before it's here

>>43057454
I've moved waaaay beyond five minute meditations my friend, I'm not that new! But I still have problems feeling too jittery sometimes, like I just tried laying down and the urge to move my arms got unbearable despite some modest success mentally affirming I was feeling calm. Literally no one is more mentally handicapped with this kind of thing than me, but I'm still doing better and trying.

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I'd really like arthoefag to start using a tripcode so i can auto hide his posts like i do with the other attention whoring losers.

Anyway I've spent so long travelling the world looking for the beautiful French wife i've been trying to summon into being that I'm now getting book deals asking me to write about my adventures. Maybe she'll see them idk. That 1% chance something might work out and I'll find her is the only thing keeping me from killing myself.

>>43057566
try supplementing magnesium. you mentioned drinking which that depletes your magnesium (most people are deficient as is). low magnesium is linked to anxiety like symptoms

>>43058083
Peradventure I shall try this; ty.

>>43017660
>the death of someone
how'd you go about that?

>you are god bro
>You can be/do/have anything bro
So where are all the immortal flying billionaires
All I see is grifters selling courses and getting rich lmao
Meanwhile ppl are saying they do this for years with no results bahahaha

>>43030136
Do body awareness meditation ,look at your hands and at your environment at the same time,feel your body first then everything else in your environment
Spend less time looking at screens and things that distract you from this awareness

>>43041584
thats a long paragraph just to come out as gay ,but congrats

>>43056438
JAH BLESS

>>43057993
>loosh harvester detected

My intrusive thoughts never manifest.
NOTHING negative ever manifests.
Simple as.

Those cocksucking Archons spiked my weed and reignited my Epilepsy & BPD.

Fuck those guys, man.

>>43059419
Because you need a genuine desire for what you manifest and you have to believe and feel as though you already have it. most people don't genuinely want to fly and if they do they find it's less resistance to do so in lucid dreaming / astral states. I'm not sure if CAN'T is the right word I've never met anyone who has been able to manifest activities outside the established laws of physics.

This doesn't allow you to cast fireball at the gym pissing you off in traffic, but it can allow you to find peace, success, happiness, new cars, new houses, a wife, and choose the sex of children before they're conceived, just to list a few that I've been able to make happen.

I like to joke that Biden owes me his win back in 2020 after I had a big seizure. Manifested that geezer into the Whitehouse, but somebody else manifested the other one again.

I wish my mother died

>>43060615

Just don't manifest yourself doing anything that could ruin your life.

>>43059419
I dont want those, I want a world where cancerous antisocial people are singled out and physically removed lol would be very satisfying. It includes removing chronic shitposters. Livestreaming an execution is a good start

Manifest me a gaming pc

>>43060665
my mother is a massive burden. she's a narcissist. she's antagonistic. she did a lot of damage to my life. she's one of the most toxic and stupid people i've ever known.

I wish my mother would just die already and get out my life.

>>42974991
Ok but even by your own logic believing in it is beneficial to you.

>>42973570

How do you change your inherent beliefs like "this won't work" or "realistically I'll never be ___"

>>43061009

It already exists. It's on the shelf at Best Buy. You can't afford it.

>>43061407
read Simple Self-Healing: The Magic of Autosuggestion by Emile Coue, works for mental blocks too

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Interesting, I started robotically affirming "I live with my perfect woman" and had a dream about me piping my hot ex-stepsister in my studio. Robotic affirming is the way, it just takes longer to work and you also can't be doing it nonstop coming from a place of desperation or lack but frequently enough to the point where its changing your thoughts and putting it in the wish fulfilled

>>43061407
A belief is just a habitual though
That's what affirming is for,to change it

>>43060665
ntsbut can you actually do that?
>t. afraid of intrusive thoughts