So you're telling me he just convinced almost 1,000 to poison their children and then kill themselves?
>>42977995No he only did that when the Feds were closing in on him after he killed a snooping Senator while not in the U.S.
yes
>>42978005Why kill everyone in his commune?
>>42977995Something something glowie psyop to test their glowie technology.
>>42977995thousands of people do stupid dangerous shit just because they saw it in a tiktok.
>>42977995No he convinced his inner circle of armed individuals to kill everyone else at gunpoint via the poison.
He has to be one of the most evil men to ever live, right?
>>42977995it was mass murder and carried by force. the mass suicide myth is a lie. note that he was lobbied heavily by democratic politicians like harvey milk and dianne feinstein. you don't see that part being mentioned in the sean penn movie.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkgJLAQ2ysw
>>42978047In the tapes you can hear a crowd that is actually on board with his plan though.
Now the only cult of personalities are the content creators that the kids follow religiously on TikTok or Twitch
I still don't get it. He created this entire community to murder them all, why?
>>42978054good luck speaking out against a murderous psychopathic sect.
>>42978013He knew it was over so he ended himself. They were all him too. It was like the Eclipse in Berserk. Sometimes you find yourself belonging to someone else’s Will more than you have your own.
>>42978092wait a secondare you suggesting that he became some sort of powerful demon by sacrificing all those people?
>>42978047Don't worry. Netflix will make a version where they all suicide while praying to God under a giant bible in Texas.
>>42978121at the last second a brave black lesbian doctor will save them all from the poison with an antidote made by a genius trans genderfluid maori scientist. then they will all stare directly in the camera and say "kill all whites".the end
>>42977995He's so fucking based for that. Killed sooo mant niggers and white commie faggots. And they were christian scum too.Hero. Legend. The Best.
>>42978109Some believe that those you are responsible for killing become your slave in the afterlife.
>>42977995No, he convinced 1000 to drink cool aid which is a minor feat considering how many people drink cool aid daily across America
>>42977995The people he took lived in some of the worst times to be a free African American and knew hatred, prejudice, racism, and dehumanizing that no one today will really comprehend.He convinced his mass that there was nowhere else to go and many believed that because their own lives were filled with so much cruelty and poverty.
>>42977995No, many of them resisted so they were murdered by his strict adherents. They even murdered a Congressman.
Grooming a crowd of the most vulnerable traumatized commoners to do your bidding is some pussy nigga shit. Manipulating a single person or group with actual power like how Choi Soon-sil manipulated SK's president is.
>>42978166Yeah. Christians are sheep. Their mistake as being a christian and being stupid. How the fuck you end up falling for a man like Jim Jones? You gotta be really stupid, low IQ. I mean, if we are honest, Jim Jones probably did something good here because he killed a lot of stupid people? Is this not good? Less dumb people walking in this Earth? Their genes won't be spread, is this not a good thing? It's natural selection, right? How the fuck do you join a cult like that? You gotta be stupid or superstitions which does hand in hand. Good Riddance.
>>42978332The children were all completely innocent
Yep. Imagine the venn diagram of socialists christians. The absolute easiest people to brainwash in the world. I bet I could have talked at least 20 of them into killing themselves if you gave a half an hour and cup of coffee.
How come when someone starts a cult its never nothing nice
>>42978332>people that didn't follow the Bible at all>that's your proof that Christians are dumbYou dropped your fedora.
>>42978345Because to do nice things for people you don't need to have power over then, instead the power is used for the energy to serve them. Jones inverted that, like they all do, all cult leaders I mean.
>>42978334I'm glad that you pointed this out. SO in the bible when God commanded people to kill the little children and the babies the same logic applies. The children were innocent. Thank you. I don't disagree with you. This is a sign of how the God of the Bible is evil because He did exactly what Jim Jones did. God killed children. But I understand that the christian will still defend God. But deep down you know that killing children is wrong.>>42978347Cope harder. lol You may not consider them christians because of "x" reason, but in their minds they were christians and believed in the bible, yes they did. But with you guys it's always the same excuses. X person was not a real christian or x religion is not really following the bible and etc. Give me a break, dude. Christians are dumb. It's in the bible. GHow chrsitians are SHEEP. A sheep has no brain. It is a dumb animal who has hed mentality, that's why the bible says christians are sheep because they follow the same herd mentality. Face it, christianity is BS and you gotta be stupid to believe in it.
>>42978439>I am le atheist who doesn't read the Bible ever>but let me tell you why *I* am the expert herelol you're a joke.
>>42978450No. You are the joke. You are assuming that don't read the bible when you don't know that, you can't know that for a fact. You are the one who is incapable of providing a counter argument and your argument is calling me a joke. You are the joke. Youf God is a joke. You religion is a joke and the fact that you are not able to even defend your point of view signals how much of a joke you are. Get real, dude. You are not even a real men it seems. I must be arging with a fucking woman or child here.
>>42978458>no u!The power of atheist thought. lmao
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>>42978593Hello fellow edgy atheist
>>42978332Jim Jones was not a Christian, and neither was the 'Peoples Temple,' not even outwardly. He regularly disparaged Christianty, and faith in God, to his congregation. He even defaced the Bible during one of his public services. He would tell his congregation that only his organization could save them from their enemies, not God.
>>42978045Not even close. picrel killed a Trillion people at this point.
>>42977995It was a sabotage. The glow niggers knew they had White Night occasionally so they poisoned the drink water with cyanide.
>>42978223Yep, from memory there was evidence on some bodies that they were forcibly restrained before death.
>>42980332I'd not want to be Jim Jones on the Day of Judgement.
>>42977995Permission to die is extremely rare post-WW2, for regular people most of all. It must have been ecstatic.
>>42978983This is wild, and you see the same thing in a lot of mega churches. People outwardly portraying to be Christian, then on the inside you have a literal pastor who hates and looks down on his flock and Christianity in general.
>>42978983He claimed to be atheist/agnostic as well.
>>42978013Probably just bored
>>42978166BasedAgios O Flavor Aid
>>42978013Narcissism. His ego was feeding off of dictating the fate of others daily. The cult was his attention farm. Once he could no longer go on living, he no longer needed the farm. So he torched it for one last big hit of ego boosting. Imagine if a death row inmate shot up all his drugs the day he was to be executed.
>>42978334Kids unfortunately inherit the sins of the father. The crime here was being born to stupid parents.
>>42977995Not all of them. Some hade needle marks in their backs. He was probably some mk ultra spook
>>42980221hey isn't that the guy who wants you to blow up megaton?
>>42977995How is that a big deal?people worldwide are convinced that money and government is god lmaoHow funny it will be when it all crashes by 2031 and you are forced to be a real human
>>42977995Wrong nasa is jonestoen and faithbased inaitive heretical muh xhurgshy it's bushes and cia mossady mkultra inbreeding satanic gay shit
>>42978983Jim Jones was based, we know, you don't have to convince us. But what youa re trying to signal just shows how utterly stupid the people who did fall for his cult were. For the life of me, I may be an evil person, but I think the world is better off without those stupid people. A lot of why our world sucks is because of the stupid peopel on it who lacks critical thinking skills. I know what I'm talking is dark, but I think that in a way Jim Jones did something good. May mind may be warped, but is not the world better without stupid people on it? Only the Government or manipulative groups would want stupid people alive because this way people won't question and complain and rebel and fight. Jim Jones is a sign of how utterly lame most of us, human beings, are. We beleive in things which are not according to reality because we are stupid and we don't want to think for ourselves. If you are the son of stupid parents then you are cursed because they will teach you to be stupid just like them and your work will be greater when you try to educate yoruself according to reality and not SUPERSTITION. The reality, Jim Jones used an abstract IDEA to control other human beings. Why? Because those human beigns were stupid. You can't control a person who has critical thinking skills.
>>42977995No. A lot of them resisted actually and he had death squads going around killing the noncompliant.
The people's temple was a MKULTRA mind control project. While Charles Manson was running around the upper Haight, Jim Jones was running his church in the lower Haight.Now it looks like my psycho father was involved in both. He was a military psychiatrist stationed at presidio army base at the time.
>>42977995They were kept in by fear. He would kill those that escaped the compound. The option was drink this kool-aid you don't know is poison or get machine gunned in the back.
>>42981610I like this take. I want to know more.
>>42978458>yeah, you saw through my complete unpreparedness to be making any kind of point on religion but... YOU DIDN'T KNOW FOR SURE!You are actually a joke, as in a parody.
>>42977995https://archive.org/details/AquariusGroupCOMM12BRIEFING/page/n1/mode/2up"In late 1973, under this new focus of the CIA, Deep Cover Operative George Philip Blakey made the initial $650,000 deposit for purchase of what would become known as "The People's Temple" in Guyana, under the management of Reverend Jim Jones. During this period, Jones moved his People's Temple from California to Guyana, where the Agency felt it would be isolated and kept away from public or government scrutiny which might interfere with the operation. Jones himself was already well known to many in California government. Among other things, he had beer the Housing Commissioner of San Francisco. The CIA operations specialists were enthusiastic about the People's Temple operations...On November 18, 1978, more than 900 people allegedly committed suicide in Jonestown, leaving over 200 more people unaccounted for to this day as 1100 passports had been issued to temple members to travel to Guyana. Officials later stated to the press that only 900 passports had been issued. Of those 900 individuals, over two-thirds of them were either shot, strangled or showed injection or puncture marks on their bodies. Contrary to what all established media said at the time, very few actually died from self-administered, cyanide-laced KoolAid.
>>42989067What was true was that the Jonestown massacre was indeed precipitated by the visit and consequent murder of the Congressman Leo Ryan of San Mateo, California. The reason was simple. The People's Temple and Jonestown were placed in Guyana for two reasons. The first and foremost was this operation was the Agency's long-nurtured test case for clandestine operational Mind Control away from the jurisdiction and scrutiny of the regular arm of the U.S. Government and the public. This operation served as an ideal controlled operations base for ULTRA programs...The second reason is that the People's Temple was serving as the enforcers for the intelligence arm of the clandestine U.S. power base to support an extremely unpopular government. The basic indigenous population of Guyana was intimidated by Jones and his followers, who openly supported the local government in power. The U.S. Government's Deputy Chief of Missions in Guyana was an individual by the name of Richard Dwyer. Dwyer was also the CIA's Chief of Station for that area. Dwyer accompanied Leo Ryan's party on their visit to Jonestown. As far as Ryan was concerned, Dwyer was accompanying his group as a concerned representative o;. the U.S. Government. In reality, Dwyer was along to observe Ryan and his party and to oversee any interviews and investigations carried out by the group, thereby ascertaining if any Agency interests or operations were discovered or were in danger of exposure by the congressman and his party.
>>42989103In one of the tapes which were recorded by the Reverend Jim Jones himself (as was his practice), it can clearly be heard in the Jonestown chaos as Congressman Ryan's group left for the airport, that several times Jones yells the order to his aides to "Get Mr. Dwyer out of here, quickly!" In actuality, Dwyer remained in Jonestown as Congressman Ryan's party as ambushed at the airport. It is also known that Dwyer observed the massacre that followed. It was well known in certain intelligence organizations of Deep Black Operations that several "Clean Teams" were summoned from nearby locations several hours prior to Congressman Ryan leaving Jonestown for the airport. As they watched the situation deteriorate rather quickly the previous night, the Agency had decided to bring Clean Teams into the area."
>>42989116>>42989103What's more, the site that Jonestown was built on was on the same grounds of another cult that existed during colonial times. They also practiced "White Nights", and the cult ended with a mass murder/suicide ritual.
>>42988796>You are actually a joke, as in a parody.lol You are totally stupid. You don't know what the fuck you are even talking about. Am I a parody of what? A parody must be a parody of something. You are so stupid and you are so out of reality that you don't even know how to fucking ad hominem someone! How fucking stupid are you, man? You are the parody here! A parody of a person who thinks know the truth. Again, you are a sheep. We will always put people like you in their right place. You want to mock me, but you are just signalling how fucking stupid you are. You are a christian. You worship a dead jew. You think a dead man is coming back to save your ass. You get on your kness everyday and you pray to a dead jew. Give me a break, dude. Stop embarrassing yourself, you know? You won't gain any souls here. The more you talk, the more we all can see how christianity is stupid and how being a christian is lame.
>>42978170It was Flavor Aide
>>42987790This, and the senator that was killed, Leo Ryan, hounded the CIA and wanted them held accountable along with the whole intelligence apparatus. He was lured to Jonestown then shot. Coincidentally, a group of British SAS members were conducting armed drills outside of Jonestown too. What people don't know is that there were multiple Jonestown style operations being conducted in central and South America.
Only a single digit number of them actually drank it willingly.The rest were forced injection or shot.There were several children sent into the woods to hide and the media back then simply kept them from being exposed to the public. I got this information from the wife of one of the pilots who flew the bodies back to the United States. They never got the smell out of the plane.
>>42978013for the lulz
>>42977995>almost 1,000Rookie numbers desu, but still pretty impressive considering he did it all without being backed by pharmaceutical companies.
>>42978204>The people he took lived in some of the worst times to be a free African American and knew hatred, prejudice, racism, and dehumanizing that no one today will really comprehend.go back, faggot
>>42997378>>42978204https://youtube.com/shorts/_SgFqzJH7ig
>>42977995Nah. There were a bunch of them who were injected against their wishes, and that's just the adults. Minors were easier to physically control. Jones loyalists were armed.
Twenty hours since the last post and only on page 9.This board is happening in slow motion.
>>42977995https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkETz76kbxU
>>42989067>>42989103>>42989263>>42990378All true.
>>42978983While you're correct with regard to the later days of the Temple in San Fransisco and Guyana, Jones built and maintained his following in Indiana and Ukiah using good old fashioned Pentecostal hucksterism and faith healing. By time he had his flock isolated in the "Agricultural Project" the religious gloss of the organization had fallen away and he saw himself (and was seen by his followers) as something of a rogue communist leader bravely standing up to the imperialist United States.
>>42977995no, he convinced 1,000 people the feds were coming to kill and rape them and their children, then offered them a painless way out, and nudged them along with a few AK47s.
>>42993968He was backed by the three letter agencies. The operations happening there were a division of the mk ultra type programs and their research efforts. This is why the event began with a congressional member doing an inspection of the facility who was then gunned down as he was getting into the plane to return to the United States.
>>42977995NPCs / normies are helpless against charismatic psychos. For some reason they seem unable to comprehend the idea of something being objectively evil or lying.
>>42978152...but that makes no sense. If they wanted to kill them then why save them. Majority who died were whites
>>42977995OJ Simpson's mom worked at the psych ward he recruited religious (schizophrenic) black people from. I've always wondered how and why that murder happened (beyond surface level "monkey killed its cave bitch") and also how and why he got away with it and was able to convince people he didn't do it. Like yes, people are right - domestic violence murders happen every day, even famous domestic violence murders like like RJ Wagner and Natalie Wood, but something about the Simpson-Goldman murders is much more paranormal than a man drunkenly shoving his wife into the water out at sea after an argument.
>>43004405Like.. the fact that crime scene photos and videos are almost always censored, while Nicole and Ron's bloody dead bodies were shown on the fronts of newspapers and are still plastered all over google without a safesearch filter. The fact that it launched the Kardashians into fame. The fact that he was found not guilty. And the fact that he got the children given back to him. He got away with it all, who was protecting him and why did it happen? And does "Simpson" have any great energetic reason why the Simpsons the tv show is why it is (his first wife's name was literally Marge)? Why was nothing truly resolved about this bloody sacrifice, why did everyone love looking at it, why the Jim Jones connection through his mother, and why was it the genesis of modern hollywood?
>>43004432I mean, I know why people loved looking at it, but why did they let people look at it? People instinctively want to look at dead bodies, why was our wish granted only this one time? People aren't even allowed to see their dead relatives sometimes, much less famous people?
>>42977995A M A T E U R.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ipsrj1jJ1eM&ra=m
>>42977995It was all a psyop. The Peoples Temple Agricultural Project in Guyana was on Union Carbide owned land. It's speculated that the character known as Jim Jones and the character known as Charles Manson took CIA preacher training together. Lots of people absolutely died. Maybe they killed the congressman to keep word from getting out. I've never looked into his background.
>>43004405Simpson's early life is an interesting rabbit hole. His dad was a cross dresser named "Mama Simpson" who worked as a janitor at the Fed in San Francisco. Had issues with joints and muscle development growing up. Joins a gang. Somehow gets onto a JC team, wants to study acting, and eventually ends up at USC. Watch his running back tape with the Bills. He runs high. Doesn't break tackles. People somehow miss tackling him. The only interesting thing about his long runs is that good linebackers somehow don't make plays on him that they should make. He's the shittiest "greatest running back" I have ever seen. You could convince me his entire life was scripted and he was an actor employed by the NFL in scripted games. It's like he was always an actor playing a part, even from the early days.
>>43005101>It's like he was always an actor playing a part,I agree, and I understand a lot of sports is scripted to fit a narrative. I understand that his mom was the one who was adamant on him becoming a football player in his early life and was in a ton of Hertz commercials alongside him before the murders. His mom lied a lot for him on the stand during the trial, with emotive affect. I remember watching a documentary and she was smiling brightly saying, "He's always wanted to be an actor." You've got to wonder whether acting wasn't his mother's calling which she channeled through her son. And we all know "acting" is just code for being a puppet. His dad being a drag queen is interesting, he apparently didn't talk to him for 10 years at one point so you have to wonder what happened there.
>>42977995No never happened. There is no way a group of people would kill themselves and their family because some smooth talking malignant narcissist got them to drink the kool-aid. Kinda like a diaper wearing orange colored stinky led some gullible retards to believe he was secretly fighting to expose pedophiles in high level of American Elite, then turned out to staff his second administration with many of the worst offenders and turn many more into oligarchs wealthier and more powerful than they have ever been. While others like the pilot and groomer Natasha who once told him to dress up and CosPlay Jesus while he raped a young girl who told him Jesus would protect her, That pilot is now living her best life in light and love at a buddhist temple in New York. There are even “Christians who clutched pearls over politicians who only texted underage girls and the Catholic Church that covered up pedophile Priests who sold their souls to do the exact same thing for a Real Estate semi elite to own the libs and rabidly attacked anyone who pointed it out.Apparently even after they parroted multiple levels of cope, like “he only rode twice for very short flights on the lolita express” to “look it was only 6 or 7 flights and a few harmless trips to the island. Besides it’s hebephilia not pedophilia anyways soo. Doubled and tripled down. Not just sipping the kool aid. Doing a keg stand. But on another note as an original Qtard from late 2017 I will share one of the greatest gifts given to me by a very brave woman who gave her life to expose and not let go a very evil ex prime minister and a decadent entitled Prince and his wife as well as others. Thank you Virginia. Could have just took your ten million, honored the NDA and went on with your life but you just couldn’t do it. You are not and never will be forgotten. I will keep fighting too, and hope to face my end with the same bravery you did. Jesus is Lord>t. bobody
>>43001781>Jones built his following using good old fashioned Pentecostal hucksterismEh ... not really. His following was really strange in the sense that it was a multi-aged, multi-ethnic following. It's not something you see in Christianity very often among the Pentecostals. You only really see this in the larger Catholic Churches, but even these are mostly separated via race, class, and sometimes age. Jones's following was pretty unique.
>>43006033>There is no way a group of people would kill themselves and their family because some smooth talking malignant narcissist got them to drink the kool-aid.One established fact is that Jones had access to cutting edge psychotropic drugs. His followers had weekly check-ups and most were on some form of prescription meds. So it definitely wasn't just his charismatic personality. There are more than a few pictures of Jones with SF mayor Willie Brown (the dude Kamala Harris was banging in the 80's). The entire thing glows.
>>43004405>OJ Simpson's mom worked at the psych ward he recruited religious (schizophrenic) black people fromDo you have a source for this? All I can find is that she worked at San Francisco General. It would track with a lot of the members of Jonestown being former psych patients and being given anti-depressants even in the middle of the jungle.>I've always wondered how and why that murder happened Something similar to the Manson Murders. Emotional trauma. Helter Skelter. Racial strife. Gotta keep the emotions high to manipulate the masses. It continues to this day with stuff like Iryna Zarutska.>how and why he got away with it and was able to convince people he didn't do itTheater. Same as George Floyd. A carefully constructed narrative that gives both sides cause to maintain conflicting positions.
>>42978013Meth and an ego so large you cant even begin to comprehend it.Listen to the Martyr Made episodes on this.
>>43006562You really dont know much about Jones if you think his use of christianity was just a minor side thing at some point early on.
>>43008951You really dont know anything about Christianity if you believe your average Pentecostal pastor can gather a multi-ethnic, multi-aged following, convince them to leave their families and homes and give everything they own to the church, move them to South America and turn them into farmhands and sex slaves in an attempt to create a socialist paradise with the pastor serving as the defacto Kim Jong Un and then convince them to all commit suicide and murder a Congressman in order to avoid surveillance from the U.S. government. That's not in your standard Pentecostal repertoire.
>>43009182You should research the early years of the Peoples' Temple. It wasn't some Sui Generis thing that followed its own rules from the start. While they weren't Pentecostal in the strictest sense, Jones definitely made heavy use of the Pentecostal traditions of faith healing and 'miracle working,' largely borrowed from the Independent Assemblies of God, with which the Temple was affiliated. This was how Jones built a sense of himself having divine authority over his flock.
>>42978345Eh, the ones that are just really goofy just never seem to make the news.
>>42988683Check out Baudrillard's Symbolic Exchange and Death.
>>43009296I'm not going to be pedantic and try to separate the different Christian denominations he was borrowing from, but I think the larger point is that Jones was a piece of shit that used socialism to try to reach and exploit underprivileged people and his innovation was fusing the exploitative nature of Marxism with the exploitative nature of Christianity. But the socialism came first for Jones, imo. And I also think it's really fucking odd that such a belief system would exist at the same time the U.S. was conducting unwitting mind control and drug population control experiments on U.S. citizens. You have a lot of levels of mind control at work simultaneously and Jones was either some unique freak of a genius completely lacking any form of morality or he was part of a larger picture. Regardless l, I wouldn't really describe any of this as Christian in origin.
Joshua Caleb Sutter, the FBI informant who was involved with atomwaffen and ONA, started his glow in the dark career by founding the Rural Peoples Party which was inspired by Jim Jones:https://jonestown.sdsu.edu/rural-peoples-party/https://jonestown.sdsu.edu/?page_id=30385
