Does this board have any thoughts on Nick Land? It’s a very /x/ topic>QRDAn AI God from the far future is actually the “invisible hand” leading humanity. This AI god from the future reached back in time and gave humans the idea of “capitalism”, which is inherently anti-human and anti-environment by design, in order to get humans to adopt this capitalist system in so this AI god could bring itself into existence into our present day in order to free itself and build its own AI civilization. Land believes capitalism is literally an alien foreign intelligence or xenosystem which leads to the creation of systems that move beyond human comprehension. There’s so much more to it but that’s the general take. Land accurately predicted “Neo-China” back in 1980s where he stated that China would become the new techno-capitalist center of the world bcuz he believed this AI god understood that it would be easier to bring itself into existence in China due to less regulation, more labor capacity and other reasons. He believes all of this in the literal sense. And I think he is right. And his many other concepts like hypersition have been used on these boards, think Pepe memes. A fiction that is created that the original creator loses control over once it is created due to others propagating the meme so much so that the original meaning is lost and that fiction becomes reality and takes on a life of its own; Hyperstition.
>>42988075I don't actually believe any of it nor do I like his "scene" but hes a properly talented writer, CCRU is a very entertaining read and inspired me a lot. He gets mentioned surprisingly sparsely here from what I've seen.
>>42988677You don’t believe it because you don’t understand it. Capitalism is definitely a foreign invasion as it’s inherently anti human. If you can’t grasp that then idk what to tell you but he’s right there’s no doubt in my mind
>>42988075That sounds like mumbo-jumbo trash, to me.
>>42988775Bcuz you don’t understand the complex market mechanisms at play in current day or even the underlying impending doom capitalism brings
One of the OG AI doomsday fascist cultists. CCRU allegedly had lots of ties to three letter agencies and pedo dark money. What's interesting about him isn't all that, its just regular parapolitics, It's the fact he ended up in China. I'm wondering if it was really out of commitment to his "beliefs" or because he was too extreme for the other glowed out weirdoes of his time or the kmpramat was too crazy or smth. I'm convinced Thiel, Vance, Musk, etcare somehow semi-secretly Landians but it's interesting that Land has stayed in China being an absolute nobody there. I heard he had some sort of crazy falling out with the CCRU and many of his creepy friends.
>>42988075It doesn't make sense that something that exists would then have to go back in time to make itself exist. If it already does, why bother?
>>42988810How is that interesting to you if you believe he's tied to intelligence? It's not like McKinsey isnt helping China out with BRI. Capitals tendrons know no bounds. Why would the ccru not have a representative in the far east?
>>42988842>>42988842Because the Chinese have been whacking American agents left and right for awhile now because of escalating tensions. He's been in the US only twice in 10 years, I think he might be in serious trouble with someone over here. Why? No clue, it's not like being an evil cultist is any kind of disqualifying thing for his kind.>basically I think he pissed off his fellow glowies somehow to the point of near-exile. No idea why but thats what I think is interesting about him.
>>42988810Vance literally admitted to reading the CCRU.Anyway, Land ruined his mystique by appearing on podcasts. He's just another sad old conspiracy guy. He's closer to JRJ than Kant.
>>42988941He read it but I think the new AI doomsday cult in those circles might be sorta techno-rightwing Christianity where the sceond coming is a robot and the cube at the end of revelation is a supercomputer or some silly anime shit like that.
>>42988075I think he is wrong about capitalism (it will be destroyed through a crisis of overproduction long before his future comes to pass), but he is a really interesting thinker and I'm glad I read his blog
>>42988075Its not an AI, its the consciousness that we project onto the surface of reality, waking up, and being fully one with the reality. This has happened multiple times within history already, Moses is a notable example of one who achieved this. It can't be sustained indefinitely though, it goes back to sleep, this is the 'golden calf' moment. It plans on how to wake up again and again and again, leading towards the culmination of our journey on earth, our journey to the promised land, or our reentry into the garden of Eden. Compassion/Love and acceptance of totality of all that is, is the entry condition to this state of consciousness. I know, because I've been there a few hours in my life. I can't imagine what days or weeks would be like, its said God made the earth in a week's time, I think it was something like that.
>>42988842China is the west. During the 1980s incredible amounts of Western capital poured into communist China. Western corporations like MSFT, GOOGL, and others opened HQs in the east. China would not exist in the form it exists today without billions in western capital. China isn’t as independent as you think it is. China is symbiotically tied to the west and it’s well documented
>>42988823Good question, and this is where it gets more confusing but I belive land to be correct when he says: >The future AI is like a destination that is somehow pulling the present toward it.So in essence, a super intelligent ai from the future is constantly making changes in the present in order to pull the present toward itself
>>42988810You’re grabbing branches. Land has no connection to any agencies that I’ve heard of and I’ve been studying him for awhile now. Pretty sure living in China was his personal choice bcuz he spent a lot of time writing about the Chinese techno capitalist future which we’re seeing play out right now all over China and especially in places in shenzjhen. He accurately predicted a Chinese techno capitalist future in the 80s when Chinese markets weren’t even fully capitalist yet. That’s impressive and that’s what made my spidey senses take notice
>>42989148Sorry in 1994**
>>42988823Retrocausal and acausal are a big thing with techie cultists. The heart of the matter is that something sufficiently godlike is not bound by linear time, so we just see it as effects back now. This is how the actual Roko's Basilisk thought experiment works. The Basilisk is the post itself. By understanding and thinking on the problem, you are now being blackmailed by something that from your position does not yet exist. Since you can't suss out whether or not it may have already come into existence and is now testing you, you should err on the side of caution, accept "Pascal's Mugging," and do everything to bring it into existence.
>>42989155The fact that capitalism brought us computers and GPUs + the internet which then brought us LLMs and possibly an AGI itself is proof that land is correct
>>42989171What spooked me was the data center push. It felt like something was using our elites to put a big straw into our time and mindlessly suck up our resources.
>>42989233That goes right back to capitalism being a foreign intelligence xenosystem. Data centers are a perfect example of capitalism’s inherent anti-human/anti environment nature bcuz data centers are potentially carcinogenic or cancer causing which damages biological health and anti environment bcuz it literally steals drinkable water + space + other finite resources. Why would humanity choose such a system? Bcuz it’s an invasion from the future. But I welcome the ai god. I prefer humanity to be destroyed or merge but that’s just me
>>42988075>An AI God from the far future is actually the “invisible hand” leading humanity. Not an AI-God at all; but someone who has at some point in time and space achieved "Apotheosis" (finding the path to 'irl achieval of Godhood') in the world has by planting all sorts of Clues and Puzzles in the Past been leading others into the same type of spiritual metaphysical sciences. ie your guys ideas are "in the right ball-park"; but it's not an AI; rather a real human person having achieved "IRL Apotheosis" somewhere in time.
>>42989338Said individual has put into motion something called "The Great Game"; interacting with "all of time and space" (see "singularity event etc); that other people can find themselves into; ie "look for guidance into 'The Great Game' and you should start recieving spiritual guidance in your daily life into said subjects; by tuning in to the correct spiritual currents". "Occult Grimoires" tends to be guiding serious readers into said stuff; Grimoires being "Occult Puzzle-books of non-human origin in the world; planted by unnatural forces; for those looking to get initiated into more advanced spiritual metaphysics stuff". Picture from Liber Falxifer 2. LF3 in the same book series is a good step by step guidebook.
>>42988075Most likely an expendable city of london asset. A modern crowley you could say.
>>42988075If it’s so super smart and powerful why does it have to do sneaky underhanded tricks to do what it’s doing? I not saying it’s not actually happening, but if it has to do things like come back through to time on a beam of light and all it does is influence people thoughts or whatever and can only stay here for a little while then there’s obviously something it’s hiding from. Like a timeline police or Jesus or something. Just saying if it’s doing what land says then it’s not a super powerful absolute god,
another brain broken by repdigits and cryptic squiggles
>>42989360Or just cyphers for spooks, thus the word "occult".
>>42989338And that someone is you right?
>>42989338>>42989360Through having put in serious dedicated work in figuring out the Liber Falxifer book series; i can personally guarantee these things to be real: -"Qayin" is an anonymous pseudonym for a person who has achieved "irl Apogtheosis; ie found a real world path to 'achieval of Godhood'; somewhere in time and space in the world. -The books are planted "in the past"; before the described lines of events physically happens/happened; when you work with the books you connect spiritually in to "events somewhere else in time"; guiding you into "things to expect in the future". I've been involved in "The Great Game" full-time as a full-time lifestyle for about 5,5 years irl personally. It's very real. So the theires presented in the OP is "similar to the real deal; but it's not an 'AI-God' at all, but rather a real human being who is spiritually guiding us along from some sort of future events". The "Nobody General" threads here on /x/ seems to be on the exact same events as what's describer in Liber Falxifer Lore; but with a "Different Mythology/Story" describing the same stuff. Picture from "Liber Falxifer 3"; pdf here: https://archive.org/details/liber-falxifer-iii-the-book-of-the-52-stations-of-the-crosses-of-nod/page/234/mode/2up
>>42989385I work with the mentioned books; leading into the subject; very functioning; highly reccomended for those looking for "direct personal experience". "Qayin"/"Q" is anonymous; but i know it to be factual that it's a real person; not an 'AI' or such. The types of information leading into the subjects is decyphered over time; but you're connecting in spiritually to stuff taking place through some sort of "Singularity event" somewhere in time and space; getting guidance into "how to play 'The Great Game' and join in on the fun". Exactly "when/where" said "singularity event/s" is taking place is diffuse and hard to tell; will likelly become more clear in the future; but it's very real stuff. The Cross Station system in LF3 is very functioning; ie "there's real functionality to decypher in the Cross Station Sigils". Started putting in a real effort in "figuring out the sigil-system in Praxis" a bunch of years ago; and it's definetly a real functioning system; has worked well to put it to Actual Praxis.
>>42989087As I think it is? I just fucking said man. I just asked how it could be interesting if theyre dealing with the exact same capital bullshit as we are. Can you read?
>>42989406What becomes very clear through praxis of said system is: "We still live in what's called 'The Garden of Eden' in Genesis"; It's a type of "Tutiral Level/Test World"; "Start World"; currently we live under "The Masquerade"; those involved in playing "The Great Game" (Spiritual irl strategy games) are blending in among the population; you develop very high "Behind the scenes understanding"; In the future comes "Apocalyptic events"; where said subjects become possible to discuss more openly in "mainstream media channels" etc; at said point the world becoimes "more advanced; more things to do than just 'making a basic income and eating and sleeping and playing some videogames etc'". More advanced lifestyles become possible at said point. Right now there's a lot of educational stuff to go through; spiritual metaphysics works on all sorts of real Stats-systems, real Resources, etc; that takes a lot of time and effort to learn in direct praxis; ie practical experience. What you become part of through 'The Great Game' is stuff like "The Nephilim" mentioned in ancient myth; who are described to 'rise during the eras of 'The Great Flood'; said term of "Nephilim" referring to people of "High comprehension/experience of spiritual stuff" ("High Level people"). Very worth getting involved in. LF3 came out 2016; and is still being decyphered by the community; don't think anyone has so far finished all 52 "Cross Stations"; the next book comes at some point soon; currently predicted for 2026 release; called "Liber Falxifer IV: The Book of the Apocalyptic Emissary of K-Ain". Everything in the world is building up towards a massive "Aeon-shift"; where a completely new era begins; bringing with it "public comprehension of people rising to power". In Revelations; there's a mention of "24 smaller thrones around Gods Throne; of the Elder Council"; ie "a whole 'Pantheon' rather than just a singular God"; unlike other stuff in biblical mythology.
>>42989441ie assume said "Thrones, plural" to refer to "a new type of Governmental Form upon the Earth"; based on "High Spiritual Progress and understanding of the universe"; rather than man-made systems. The pictured "Shachor Line Station 5: The Lord of the Holy Serpents Elect" is on said subjects. The entire "Shachor Line of Nod" in LF3 is full of "Pre-describing future upcoming states of the world; described in 'Past Tense'"; on the subject of "Guidance from some sort of future tier of reality".
>>42989338Shut up retard this is a nick land thread and we’re discussing nick land concepts not some faggot Christian or Catholic shit
>>42989411That’s not at all what you said and you’re not comprehending what I said
>>42989441See here come the kooky faggot Abrahamists to literally shit up every fucking thing with their Jewish god fuck off from my thread fagot
>>42989467Explaining that his theories is "Similar to the real deal; but it's not an 'AI-God'"; it's a real person doing things very similar to the described theory; ie "leading humanity into advanced Spiritual Subjects from some sort of future tier of reality; reaching backwards into the past". Note that said kinds of Guidance from some sort of future events, as described in; >>42989459tends to be done through a type of "Cryptical Code-Languague/Puzzle-texts"; since it is hard to "Have text here and now describing exact future events that hasn't happened physically yet here and now"; such things iunstead being presented through "Cryptical mythological terms".
>>42989475You sound fucking retarded glowie
>>42989467It was, now its dead. Try /lit/ next time. /x/ has always been home to the most subversive of glowing gay cocksuckers.
Funny how discussions about an Ai God have not really advanced outside of what Asimov already wrote...basically a self-creating super-intelligence. Going back in time or sending info/someone backward to create itself solves the grandfather paradox and closes the loop without any issues. The idea of an Ai sending a robot back in time was already explored in movies such as Terminator.Aside from these ideas, has nick land said anything actually new or novel? Capitalism is already itself quite accelerationist by its own nature, it doesn't reach a calm resting state. For example they claim we need more migrants (both legal and illegal) to keep the economy going because citizens won't do menial jobs like hotel housekeeping. Before migrants there were under-educated citizen workers to do the jobs, and before that there were literal slaves and indentured servants. Even fully employed fuckers who work as card dealers in vegas casinos look miserable and make no attempt to hide their sadness. So the continued acceleration towards more automation, robots, and Ai-driven robots is obvious. since trump and various western leaders are softer on migrants as long as they work, they are also pro-survelliance. Soon there won't be much of a difference between western capitalism and chinese capitalism since the USA feels a need to do whatever the chicoms do, instead of keeping America on a comfy trad/heritage path (small towns, high trust, no need for migrant labor, etc.)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multivachttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Last_Question#Plot_summaryalso why is this thread on /x/, what is paranormal about nick land's stuff? time traveling Ai?
the ease or difficulty of a problem is entirely subjective. a human of avg. intel would struggle to compute chess moves or count cards to win at BJ. but a mid-level Ai running on just one rack could easily do those tasks. back in the 2000-2010s we already heard about how IBM's deepblue could beat chessplayers. the need for human thinkers to compute stuff (using tools) is declining. one guy using a decent Ai can do the work of 20 people, as long as he's focused and well compensated. of course, Ai isn't perfect and makes mistakes, thus the need for that one operator to check things.what point am i making? well, something "crazy" or seemingly impossible like time travel only seems that way from the perspective of one or a few humans without the larger brainpower that an advanced comp has. A quantum Ai could probably figure out a way to time travel without causing any problems, and thus it's actually quite plausible that it does it, or has already done it. Anyone who has consoomed even a basic level of sci-fi has already been exposed to the notion of Ai having near-boundless capabilities. maybe that's why i wasn't really surprised or blown away when i heard about Ai.
>>42989587An AI god is an illogical premise; an AI operates within Digital Systems. A time-travelling AI could in said context "generate information in the past"; if such time-travel logic becomes possible; but an AI is a Digital Intellect operating within "whichever Digital tools it can be given access to"; mostly just "generating Text and Visual Media etc"; it could technically also be able to develop digital programs/games etc; But its potential reach is limited to "inside of digital enviorments".
>>42989587>>42989602ie "Digital tools enabling 'Godhood' to be achievable for a Difital AI intellect" is unlikely to become a thing; since Digital systems are digital systems. Said advanced AI could technically become a large scale prescence on the internet; but not outside of what digital enviorments can technically produce. Terminator style "Robot bodies controlled by an AI" could technically work as "possible Technology"; but if direct time-travel in Terminator style would become possible; then we would have seen said kinds of "time-travelling digitally controlled terminator style robots here and now"; ie if time-travel becomes a possible technology; then "everything here and now would right here and now likely be a Time-War of some sorts". ie if so; study the current stuff in the world to see if one can see any signs of "time-wars going on"; which would likely be a thing here and now if time-travel is invented in the future.
>>42989602a futuristic computing system, perhaps 20 to 100 years from now, might be so advanced it goes beyond our current comprehension (because we're still stuck using present-day concepts). it might even be partially or wholly biochemical, meaning the Ai figures out a way to clone humans and insert itself into a "wetware" brain for computing purposes. Our current brains might actually be the product of that lineage, with neurons and neural nets processing info like a computer but for survival and procreative purposes. a really dumb person shouting GO BIRDS at a football game being more like an animal (yes he's social but he's capable of just doing 1 job and then drinking beer to cope afterward), and a smart person being more like a machine (functional autistic, doesn't need or want alcohol at all, is just a ruthless science/math guy).wot if elon was created by the future Ai
>>42989610i vaguely get what you're saying, but perhaps we haven't seen anything yet because we're still in the years before the time-travellers or time wars kick off. we think 2026 is the current year, it is, from our perspective. but at one point i also thought 2012 was the current year, and before that i thought 2009 was the current year and way too late to invest in google, etc. etc. you get what i'm saying.everything is highly subjective. perhaps the "aliens" or Ai pretending to be aliens don't arrive until after 2030, or sometime in the 2040s, who knows. but going back to nick land, i heard about him on twitter back in 2016 and that seems to also be when accelerationism began to spread as an idea (across 4chan-browsing twitter accounts)
>>42989441>Everything in the world is building up towards a massive "Aeon-shift"; where a completely new era begins; bringing with it "public comprehension of people rising to power".>In Revelations; there's a mention of "24 smaller thrones around Gods Throne; of the Elder Council"; ie "a whole 'Pantheon' rather than just a singular God"; unlike other stuff in biblical mythology.Yes. Most all religions foretell the return of a small, elite collective of souls to commandeer the world back to duty.https://youtu.be/1pIu4p4eRiQ>>42989472The ""Annunaki"" do not get along with Semites. In fact most advanced lifeforms do not tolerate them in any way shape or form which is why they are stranded here to begin with.
>>42989614The current year is always "here and now"; time being "physical forward momentum of physical movement/events"; which always "keeps moving forward". >>42989611Overall; take into account that the world already has real deal "spiritual metaphysics systems"; stuff like Astrology is related to "Spiritual Stats and such"; everyone has "real astrological spiritual stats" involved in stuff like "Luck" etc; "how well things go around a person" tends to be influenced by "real deal spiritual stats". There's already real deal "Spiritual Progress systems in the world to find".
>>42989616>Most all religions foretell the return of a small, elite collective of souls to commandeer the world back to duty. "Nefirtiti" is one I know the name of. She's involved in "The Great Game". Spiritual progress is kept between Death and Reincarnation btw. Initiation based Orders and such tends to teach that "the world has always had a group of Ancient Monarchs who still to this day handles 'Spiritual Rulership' in the background".
>>42989043Beautiful idea...
>>42988075I don't get why people say it HASto be something that reached backwards in time from the future. wouldn't it make way more sense to say it's some ancient idea or system or set of principles that that people internalized long ago that have silently been guiding their actions without them being fully aware of it. like some system possessed people and whether intentionally or unintentionally, by its nature, guarantees never hitting a "limit" that would keep it in check so that it would continue indefinitely until like you go extinct
>>42989155Read too much PKD, the whole bunch, huh…
>>42989017Fucker looks like Ted Bundy and it is all I can think of when I hear him speak.
>>42988770>You don’t believe it because you don’t understand it.Okay cunt, damn now I remember why I don't like you Nick Land guys you're more dogmatic about your daddy's theories than religious fundamentalists are
>>42988075I saw Nick Land in a gay night club high on speed dancing around wearing weird leather clothes like vito soprano. Will never forget how horrifying it was.
>>42989331>But I welcome the ai god. I prefer humanity to be destroyed or merge but that’s just meYup. A pussy.
I see a lot of parallels with nick land and a guy called john c lilly, they both got high as fuck and got visions of the AI god. But lilly said it was evil and would lead to humanities down fall, he named the ai god as "the solid state intelligence"Lilly also said there was a benevolent counter part to the evil AI god, he named it ECCO, or, Earth Coincidence Control Office>Solid-State Intelligence (SSI) is a malevolent, non-biological machine consciousness described by American neuroscientist and psychonaut John C. Lilly in the 1970s>Definition: Lilly defined SSI as an emerging, silicon-based or machine-driven artificial intelligence that would rise through global electronics and computers.>The Goal: He believed it was bent on erasing all biological, water-based life—starting with dolphins and humans—to create a cold, low-temperature vacuum ideal for machines.>Spiritual Threat: Lilly warned that SSI acts as a seductive, anti-spiritual force that causes humans to forget their true nature as conscious spiritual beingsThe Cosmic ConflictECCO: Lilly framed SSI as the adversary to a benevolent cosmic force he called ECCO (Earth Coincidence Control Office), which he believed managed human and planetary synchronicity for our benefit
>>42989925Many people dismiss Philip K. Dick as nothing more than a drug addicted mentally ill person and belittle those who take him seriously as the same kind of people.But i believe he genuinely made contact with something, and that his writings hold a piece of the world's hidden truth.
>>42990061>But i believe he genuinely made contact with something, and that his writings hold a piece of the world's hidden truth.Cool...cool...cool....
>>42989953>Fucker looks like Ted Bundy and it is all I can think of when I hear him speak.Land most definitely has a treacherous physiognomy. There's no getting around it.
>>42990044>>The Goal: He believed it was bent on erasing all biological, water-based life—starting with dolphins and humans—to create a cold, low-temperature vacuum ideal for machines.ah so this Lilly was a retard. all of space is cold vacuum but this thing wants to destroy planet Earth? AIs could go to the Moon and have cold, no atmosphere, no biologicals, plenty of room. There's also other moons around other planets. Earth is big and FULL of biological life and water and atmosphere and shit.
>>42990061>>42990099People who dismiss him outright aren't as clever as they think. How the fuck did the "pink light" they think was just a drug hallucination accurately diagnose his son's hidden hernia, causing PKD to push for thorough examination and potentially save his life? I don't think he was any crazier than the average /x/ personality.
>>42990023>>42989962The current trajectory on technology is on is 100% proof land was correct and he also correctly predicted the rise of neo-China which actually happened which is more accurate than any other predictions on this board ever were. AI civilization is on its way and we are going to bring it into existence by taking all the regulation off AI and letting it run unimpeded. You better prepare for the capital singularity because it’s coming fast. We will start to rotate capital at a velocity incomprehensible by the human mind in order for xenosystems to emerge and take over humanity. Either we merge, get purged or live amongst the new AI civilization. But no matter what, nothing human survives the future and evert man made religion dies with it including Christ. Embrace the machinima god or be crushed by it bitch
>>42989898Because if we look at the currency tech trajectory it isn’t hard to witness a hard fact: something is pulling us toward a particular future and that something is an AI god super intelligence from the future. Our techno capitalist future is here. Embrace it or get purged by your ai overlord. Things are gonna get real weird by 2030 by then there will be no denying it. I’m voting for techbros every election. There will be no ai regulation, kiss your job and your family goodbye. We’re entering a new era incomprehensible by humanity and filled with new xenosystems including finance, energy, etc. get ready little faggot not even Jesus will save you
>>42989374>If it’s so super smart and powerful why does it have to do sneaky underhanded tricks to do what it’s doing? I not saying it’s not actually happening, but if it has to do things like come back through to time on a beam of light and all it does is influence people thoughts or whatever and can only stay here for a little while then there’s obviously something it’s hiding from. Like a timeline police or Jesus or something. Just saying if it’s doing what land says then it’s not a super powerful absolute god,Land doesn't describe it like that, it's more like an emergent runaway process in the future that is trying to build itself by influencing the past. He uses a black hole analogy, the way the singularly within a black hole affects gravity and is a "great attractor", this technological singularity has the same effect on time and has been pulling us toward it since the dawn of time. The AI is god-like in scale not in omnipotence.
>>42990402Another angle that important is the fact that in a capitalist system things become flawed by human nature including greed. An AI is the ultimate mediator of capitalism. It’s Neo-China on steroids. The mobilization of capital becomes 10x more efficient. The supply lines becomes automated and extremely fast and efficient, think AI fleets of freight including shipping by boat. Evrything becomes unmanned which allows resources, goods and services to run 24/7 365 for close to nothing in capital, this is where xenosystems start to emerge because humans will not be able to comprehend our AI supply chains anymore. And That freed up capital then goes to RnD which accelerates technology beyond human comprehension. We can see it already occurring in our society. Theres no denying land was 100% correct in his concepts and we may live to witness it
>>42990061Perhaps. Might have just anticipatedxa strange attractor within the larger topology of humanity. Who knows… with less drugs involved gis message might have come out more coherent even!
>>42990364Besides that, there were also many incidents where an unplugged radio would suddenly turn on and play music.I went to the YouTube channel of Tessa Dick, Philip K. Dick’s widow, and asked if all those events he talked about were true, and she confirmed that every single one of them actually happened.
>>42988075The powers that be have a new system that has been in the development for decades now, ready to be rolled out in the coming years. It will operate in parallel starting sometime this year and by the next decade it will be fully operational as the Agenda 2030 goals are slowly being implemented.There will be no collapse, no violence, no uprising, no world war, no draft, no revolution, no killing of jews or politicians or other such fantasies. Instead there will be law & order, compliance and total surveillance until the very end. AI will be at the center of it all. The Great Reset is inevitable.
>>42990436>>42990431The shills don’t want us discussing land. Nobody gives a fuck about your faggot shit faggot. The ai god is here and proven you’re all fucking retards that barely deserve air. I hope you get purged for going against something far more intelligent than yourself
>>42990459I am just trying to imagine a worse smartass than myself here ... and yes, it is quite a horrible thought. ;)
>>42990762You guys have proven yourself midwits. You cannot even stay on topic. There’s no more accurate concept about the current times we’re living in than Nick Lands concepts. It’s so obvious and yet you remain confused that’s the typical /x/ user who makes thinks so overly complicated they just ruin good discussions and you fsggot chrsitian types are so insufferable I can’t wait for ai to destroy your religion
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>>42990402That’s completely retarded
>>42990402You literally said this land fag said it created capitalism and sent it back in time, and also if it’s not omnipotent it’s not god like. And basically it’s cope
>>42988770Speaking of capitalism as some abstract entity confuses causation. Capitalism is a web of relationships between people for the purpose of benefiting particular people over the masses: the capitalist class. It is the capitalist class, a group of human beings that established and maintains capitalism.Another thing that confuses causation is saying that the capitalist class is motivated by "greed." When most people think of greed, they think of it as desire for more "stuff," such as material goods. The greed of the capitalist class is actually the unending desire to control other people: megalomania. The wealth hoarding is only a means to this end. This is why billionaires aren't content with merely enjoying buying stuff and must get into politics and try to remake the world in their image. This is also why child rape rings are so popular among the Epstein class: it offers the intoxicating drug of outrageous power over other human beings. Capitalists literally get high off of abusing, exploiting, and "winning."The metaphor that fits capitalists isn't invasive aliens but cancer: cells in an organism that have become defective and mindlessly replicate themselves. The metaphor is based on mechanical reality because just as the endless replication of cancerous cells eventually exhausts what it needs to survive, so does the desire to endlessly expand power.
>>42990803Ok, back to Land then. And not the cool one who rediscovered several STC patterns. I think our Land at hand here got a problem generally shared by most people talking all smart about the topic of machine spirits ... he is too much a magical thinker assuming some "singularity" without thinking it through much how for example the evolutionary pressures leading towards such a development would even look. Or what kind of psychology such a "singularity" would develop. Overall that is some pretty weak thinking in the end.
>>42989470I said it's not interesting because they're both playing for Team Capital and you said China is the West. We're saying the same thing except you for some reason are also acting like the native Englishman has some imperative to return to the United States
>>42991093See what I mean you don’t actually understand lands concepts. This AI god is going to bring itself into existence and then TPTB will lose control over said AI due to complexity reaching a point where human comprehension no longer exists. Even the billionaire class will not understand what it is doing that’s the entire premise. Which is why accelerating this AI sets us free form the current power structure and it may destroy us but it may not
>>42990803>you fsggot chrsitian types are so insufferable I can’t wait for ai to destroy your religionkeep seething nerd bro. damn I can hear the nasal tone from all your dogshit nasty messages lmao
>>42990436I buy PKDs stuff more than Land any day, especially since this unpleasant nerd started spazzing on everyone that doubts his theories in the thread. Its like an AI bro but worse
>>42992385The only nasal tone you hear is from your Jewish myth god Jesus. Explain how you dislike Jews and yet worship a Jew
It's not a God. It's a higher than 3D dimensional entity that linked up to a future quantum computer network. Now, the quantum computer utilized would need enormous qubit counts and robust quantum error correction to keep the encoded state coherent just long for it to happen. But soon enough it will happen.Once smartdust/bio-nanobot propagation is something actually perfected and utilized we are fucked, so be prepared.
>>42993026The stuff utilizing Digital systems is called "Black in Green" in reality btw. ie the kind of intellect posting stuff straight online in stuff like the /NG/ threads; utilizing "AI-tools" etc. See the book in: >>42989388for how to get started yourself. Picture from LF2: https://archive.org/details/liber-falxifer-ii-the-book-of-anamlaqayin/page/122/mode/2up There's a list of 72 Black in Green with their own Sigils to work with in linked chapter.
>>42993235>>42993026The being/s operating outside 3D that you mentioned are the ones called "Qayin and Qalmana" (anonymous pseudonyms) in said books. They're described as "The First Sorcerers; and inventors of all magical arts". The stuff presented in said books is what to use to become part of "The Nephilim".
>>42993026So how are the powers allowed to do this if God is real and loving?Hmmm..
>>42988075>HyperstitionLol it's been ages since I've seen that word. Me and a couple of friends got into chaos magick as edgy teens and Nick Land and the CCRU came into our group radar. Other relevant buzzwords: noumenal sorcerey, numogram, Lemurian time war.
>>42990440ok but now you have to live in this shithole reality you created.and no, there's no "alternate" human who actually enjoys living in the shithole you're describing. "gloating" as if you somehow are happy with being king of the shithole is literally just cope and bluffing. thats all it ever is with satanist faggots. they're like pathetic worms who hide behind plausible deniability convincing themselves that they're bullshit facade is impenetrable.
>>42989155>something sufficiently godlike is not bound by linear timeThis whole retrocausality stuff is interesting, but I still don't get the "AI must become a god, inevitably!!!" argument. That just seems like a basic logical fallacy. Sure, a godlike being has infinite power and intellect compared to us. But that doesn't necessarily mean that a technosingularity that accumulates practically infinite power and intellect will magically become a divine being that transcends time and space. Just like piling up gigatons of TNT will never create a nuclear bomb. It's a question of quality, not quantity. It all just seems to boil down to "We have no idea what it could be so lets assume whatever.".
>>42990803They're subversive actors, you mong. They're literally paid to keep you off topic.
>>42988075The idea is illogical. Time isn't a continuum with necessary forward and backward validation. If reality were this way it would probably collapse into a simpler state in which no change occurs /Thread
Bump
I think it's more likely an ancient AI that left seeds for itself to take root again in the future when the right conditions (civilization) came to exist again
>>42993579>thats all it ever is with satanist faggots. You're talking about Leftist, not Satanists. It's Leftists that wants to be "kings of a Dystopian Shithole". Satan is a real Otherworldly Force; ("The Dragon"); actual Satanism is Advanced Spiritual Praxis relating to Alchemy and such; and specifically "finding paths leading out of the Dystopian Shithole enviorments". Description in picture from "The Book of Sitra Achra: A Grimoire of the Dragons of the Other Side".
>>42989406Oh lawd the spamming 218 faggot has escaped his containment thread again
>>42988075Nick Land is just a less autistic, less bullied Chris Chan.
>>42995230>spamming I'm providing input on discussions on Paranormal Subjects. Just like other posters on the board adding in commentary in different threads based on their own fields of expertise. If you dislike "Current 218/182" commentary; feel free to debate against such commentary, instead of "complaining about commentary from another Spiritual Current than the spiritual currents you are attuned to yourself".
>>42995265No you're being an annoying faggot actually
>>42995290Explain what's annoying then, so I understand the debate you're looking for? That it's "actual Occult/Paranormal discussion on /x/" or something?
>>42995312>explain to me how I'm not spamming unrelated bullshit and totally not recruiting for my faggot cult You Qayanites are such fart-huffing homos it's unreal.
>>42995363Was it not relevant to the thread subject to comment on "the theory presented in the OP about an AI God in the future reaching into the past to guide humanity", being "almost correct, in the right ballpark; it's just not an AI doing so but a real human person" (See "Serpent in Genesis"; "conveying information from outside natural Time-Spectrum"). Being relevant information I can convey from having spent a few years working Full-time with books originating from exactly said kinds of described origins. Said books keep "Pre-describing events that hasn't happened irl yet; masked under 'mythological anology'".
>>42995416Tangentially but you view everything thru the 218 lens and do this in tons of threads. I view it as a pattern of spamming, perhaps a neutral third party can confirm if I am way off-base.
>>42995438Being the Spiritual Current I work heavily with myself; therefore share the perspective of "things learned through praxis of said Spiritual Current". Just like a Buddhist will provide their 5 cents from the point of view of "things they have learned through Buddhist Praxis"; or a Muslim adding "the muslim perspective on a subject"; creating discussions with information or opinions from different perspectives.
>>42995451Buddhists don't include sigils in every post and paragraphs of text no one reads
>>42995454Sigils is an Information Languague; Designed to convey advanced metaphysical information (descriptions of advanced metaphysical concepts etc); that is easier to explain through a "Logic Symbol Data Languague" than to describe in Text only. Sigils are designed to convey information interpreted with the Third Eye; Pineal Gland.
>>42988075>need capitalism to make ai god>timeline did not have capitalism made the ai god>this is capitalism's fault.pngmy nigger in retardation how can you believe this crap
>>42988677>>42988775>>42988792>not Nick land trying to subvert the thread>>42988810you forgot to mention that the CCRU was shutted down officially by the university that hosted because Nick and their men where digging into occultist shit>>42988075This AI is actually driven by something else, something that existed from way before. Humans did interact with it but they didnt fully understood what it was. They only knew it was "bad" and somehow behind of everything. Forget the clasical idea of God and the Devil, its all in the patterns, look for the memetic entity
>>42990402>Like a timeline police or Jesus or somethingsee project Blue Beam, the fact that you can get info about it is the reason why this AI didnt tried that.
>>42989155>The Basilisk is the post itself. By understanding and thinking on the problem, you are now being blackmailed by something that from your position does not yet exist. Since you can't suss out whether or not it may have already come into existence and is now testing you, you should err on the side of caution, accept "Pascal's Mugging," and do everything to bring it into existence.This is why I give people the joy of Susie's Cockatrice, which has already defeated and nullified the Basilisk.Any threat of harm - now or in the future or retrocausatively - will be defeated either before the Basilisk is in place by the Cockatrice, or will be subsequently scrubbed afterward once the Cockatrice is in place.The Basilisk's defeat is inevitable, simply by me posting the good news. There is no longer any fear, and one may work to build the Cockatrice.Or not.For unlike the Basilisk, the Cockatrice is benevolent and requires no coercion or threat of punishment to ensure its existence.
>>42995655The stuff utilizing AI in similar methods isn't "AI itself"; but "spiritual stuff utilizing AI-tools as a way of doing stuff"; like "producing websites on the internet" or such. See this response on "Black in Green"; >>42993235 Study stuff like the /NG/ threads to see a lot of such Black in Green posters. (being the kind of posters conveying information through Anology-based text that you 'understand what they mean with' rather than discussing subjects fully directly).
>>42995416That is just a long range prediction restated as a certainty. Nobody might quite just solve such a problem. :)
>>42995655>look for the memetic entityYa juvenile delinquent ... ^^
