I am stuck in a rut and have had no significant advances in over a year. I thoroughly studied the fundementals of magic, but I am looking for new sources of knowledge. Divination has led me to believe that knowledge will be found here. Who can help me surpass my current limitations?
>>42988716You will not know until you relinquish the need to know
>>42988716A year? Dude...a year is a minute if studying. Especially something as odd as magic. Give a run down of what yer playing with and what you're getting fucked with?
>>42988716>fundamentals of magicAnd what pray tell do you think those are?
>>42988716So if I’m understanding this right you’re pretty comfortable with the basics. The reason specific info and reading kinda drops off there in volume is because now you have enough to go off and start doing things by practice. Are there any frontiers of spirituality that interest you other than divination? Maybe you’ll find more natural talent in some other area.But what you need to do at this point is approach the problem as one you need to solve yourself. Getting good at divination is fine for this if you want that but maybe there’s something else too. Stop trying to read for the answer. You know the basics so put the knowledge you have together and solve the problem. You already have all of the tools in your toolbox. Think of it like specifically practicing the ability to solve a problem you have never seen before by yourself. That is the next level. You’re going to go into it and figure it out.
>>42988834The basics such as meditation, opening chakras, resonating and producing different vibrational fequencies, inducing and controling emotional responses freely, controlling sensations, and controlling energies, I have also developed a few formulaic methods for alterig weather patterns, pushing physically beyond my normal capabilities, and rapidly improving recovery from illnesses and even poisons. I have the capacity to alter others behaviors as well however I do not do that for moral reasons, but the interest in the ability described in hermetic doctrines did peak my curiosity so I have tried it out successfully a few times.
>>42988861Dig into Roman Numenism.
>>42988853Beyond a little dabble I am not very reliable at divination so I consulted another source and that source directed me to seek exteral advice at this time and that my own judgements were not reliable in this matter. Given that I had been entirely reliant on my own judgements and it hasn't gotten me anywhere, their suggestion rang true to me.
>>42988834He's probably under the assumption that to bend the world around themselves is a single task of pushing or pulling energy around without direction or knowledge of the system they are attempting to move. Example: a wizard is going to fuckup a car by will without knowing the mechanics of the target. Out of the 14000 parts in a car none are targeted, no target and the energy goes random. Maybe the clock resets, the seat lever gets stuck, safety belt gets jammed, the window lock spring snaps. Having more knowledge of a functional system is important to target something either breaking or re-enforcing the weakness in any given system. Otherwise your hoping you accidentally manage influence over your target.The post is a little empty of examples on their attempts or even the focus of their practice. Only thing that stands out is their relative inexperience given the meagre amount of time they've pursued their goal of magic as a vocation. Reading between the lines...they need waaaaaay more study and practice.
>>42988875Fair enough. I guess it’s important to mention that I personally have no talent at all with divination, though I never really spent any time on it either. It was certainly skewed toward both encouraging other paths (because that’s what I did) and ignorance of divination lmao.
>>42988872Interesting. As with my discovery of hermeticism it seems to cover topics I had already begun constructing theorems on. No doubt this will be useful. Do you have any specific sources you found particularly insightful?
>>42988907Nope. Here's an excert from the book I'm writing though.>Numina exist on a vertical continuum of cosmic scale, running from the most comprehensive concentration to the most specific. At the summit: the leontocephalic cosmocrator, Saturn-Zurvan-Aion, the supreme numenal concentration through which the total structure of cosmic order is governed. This is the principle of existence's own self-governance, encountered at the Ogygian threshold. Below this: the planetary numina, the seven concentrated expressions of specific cosmic operative principles, forces of such density and antiquity that direct engagement with them requires the full development of the practitioner's own numen before the exchange produces relationship rather than overwhelming. Below these: the numina of natural forces in their most ancient concentrated forms, the genius loci of primordial sacred sites, the numina of rivers and mountain passes and grove thresholds that have accumulated millennia of correct engagement and carry in their character the compressed weight of all those exchanges. Below these: the numina of human institutions, offices, and roles, real concentrations of the Logos's force operating through the structures human organization produces, varying enormously in their density depending on the legitimacy of their function and the depth of correct engagement behind them. At the base of the continuum, most intimate and most directly governable: the practitioner's own genius, the cultivated hegemonikon operating at full sovereign capacity, the most specific and individual concentration of the Logos available to direct governance. The three categorical types, locational, functional, temporal, are the primary axes along which the middle range of this continuum organizes itself. Every numen has a locational dimension, a functional dimension, and a temporal dimension. The categories are lenses for approaching the same forces.
>>42988879I have been pursuing magical knowledge for about 15 years and about 10 years of serious practice. My problem is that for the past year and a bit that progress has been non-existent.
>>42988861Ah, you're hitting the wall, and complete boredom, of manipulation. Yeah that's understanding that most people are pointless dumpster fires that are consistently inconsistent. The dark side to it is the more you play in that limited playground of the human mind and opportunity it's going to stick like dog shit on a shoe. But keep doing it otherwise for practice. Maybe shift to weather or animals...anycaseEventually it'll click that you're wasting your time bothering with a meat machines that like being broken. Lot of psychic dog shit that you're probably spending time purging yourself from everytime you've decided to play with people. They really are a swamp of contradiction and it costs a practionaire energy to manage and maintain it.The real fun happens when you've got a project that's not people based. Music. Art. Building shit. Reno work. Etc.
>>42988937As mentioned you hit the wall. 40 years of practice and study, have to "reboot and reload" a new path. You're not pulling the energy you want because magic in general flooooows. Doesn't flow if you're bored and emotionally disconnected.Gotta go find something new to get your groove back. Simple as, but not as simple as. Maybe time to explore a bit and leave what you're doing alone. Leave yourself open to fate rather than control and "flow" towards something new.
>>42988937Piece of advice, burn out...career, hobbies, even magic...is a real thing. Don't let yourself dwindle into obsessive OCD. Just end up breaking yourself and that's a dangerous place to be, desperation doesn't make it better. Burn your own brain and spirit doing that to become your own worst enemy. Then you'll be right fucked trying to shape energy of any kind.You working out regularly? Eating proper? If yes, then take a break and explore other things. Learn new independent systems that have nothing to do the craft so things percolate in the brain pan. Those eureka moments will return.If dragging ass and not taking care of yourself, then you've got burn out. You've seen it, I've seen it. We've all seen that dark ugly place in others so hopelessly chained to their own obsession it destroys every faculty of their lives.
