>Humans have existed in our current form for 300,000 years>Same level of intelligence that we have now>Sat around twiddling our thumbs for 290,000 years and then suddenly decided to invent civilizationSomeone's lying.
>>42994421https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5qJYwfAju8
>>42994421According to the current thing they are pushing a monkey ate magic mushrooms and his brain became super intelligenthttps://youtu.be/Ajym9ZXP7B4&t=17
>>42994421>suddenlyThe climate changed and became more hospitable, people started stone age farming as soon as it was possible, but actual civilization took thousands of years to develope.
>>42994421You are the one lying.No anthropologist would agree with how you have represented things.
>>42994421>>Humans have existed in our current form for 300,000 years>>Same level of intelligence that we have now>>Sat around twiddling our thumbs for 290,000 years and then suddenly decided to invent civilization>Someone's lying.When I was high on shroom I had a vision that people started to inventing civilization when their mental potential was starting to fall down.They didn't need it earlier.
>>42994466Low IQ does not constitute a liar
Humans were modern African-tier for most of that, absolute savage obsidian bald apes. Only when melanin levels started dropping did things more complex than mud huts and spears get created.
>>42994518Starting with a deliberately incorrect premise may be common with low IQ but it doesnt make it less dishonest.
>>42994529It does. OP genuinely believes evolution isn't real. There's no dishonesty there. He does deceive other retards, but not intentionally.
>>42994421it’s weird innit. i wonder if maybe the explanation is that, while we were physically modern we didnt have self awareness or consciousness fully developed until more recently. and perhaps even today, consciousness and self awareness are not developed in equal levels among peoples. ie, papa new guineas may be less self aware (not that that is inherently bad, just is).
>>42994548>OP genuinely believes evolution isn't real.Not one sentence in OP mentions evolution. What IS said in OP are dishonest representations of what is said.
>>42994520yet some groups of africans can and do interbreed with other civs and create new ones.None of this make's a shred of certainty , clearly it's multiverse theory like wheel of time's travellers of spheres(the books) or it's an influence of a foreign artifact people such as the lunarians from final fantasy crash landing when tiamat broke into 2(which means we aren't the same as modern human npcs they just benefit off of us).
>>42994421According to Solon’s time in Egypt, they explained we’re like on the 4th iteration or something like that.
>>42994421bob lazar said that aliens modified the human dna to create the superior white race.
>>42994421It takes time to train a machine mind on natural pattern data. They have to sit in the forest and stare at shit and be exposed to the hardships of life. Computers just do it faster.
>>42994421I definitely think civilizations have come and gone but something as advanced as rome is probably any of these unknown ancient civilizations ever got
>>42994634true, the mention of evolution is implied. why it isnt dishonest has already been stated.
>>42994421Facts>humans don't originate from earth, but mars>martians in their kikery nuked mars, and those who survived moved to earth>martians wiped out dinosaur race (proto-reptilians)>in order to survive martians changed earth, introduced martian animals>to reproduce martians do some experiments with monkeys, as the closest physically to original martians>human race is born
>>42995585soo... how does that explain anything? it just raises more questions
>>42995594who said I've tried to explain? OP was curious what happened, and I laid it out to him. Also, I don't really have time for writing long-ass essays. That's the best you'll get from me. Maybe some other anon will have patience and elaborate, it's not really a hidden knowledge
>>42995601Ok.
>>42994421>Someone's lying.The great flood from 12,000 years ago wiped out civilization. Humanity then started over.
>>42995509And refuted. OP is still a dishonest representation, and no scholar out there would attest to it.So if anyone is lying, it is the OP.
>>42995694nah, OP is wholesome.
>>42995585We've got one who knows.
>>42994421>Humans have existed in our current form for 300,000 years>Same level of intelligence that we have nowYeah those are the lies. There are different races and the ones capable of building modern civilizations haven't been around for that long.
the flaw in your reasoning is that cloacaes are full of shit, fuck shit if your into regressive bullshit.
>>43002260>>42995585reply formating harduru
>>42995702It's sad you find dishonest representation wholesome.The person lying is OP.
>>42994421we had many civilizations and humanity was always as they are now , evolution is a big fat lie trying to steer you away from your maker.no such thing as monkey becomes human overtime , you are what you are and always have been.everything else is noncanon scientist fanfics
>>43002272nah
>>43002426Ye
>>42994421>>Same level of intelligence that we have nowYes, globally that is true, not locally, people locally where not as smart as most Europeans or Asian are right now....I answered your question, you can die happy now.
>>43002264and yet ones will is conveyed unabstructed
>>42994439thats such a shortcut tho, like 300 000 years but oh we ate mushrooms so now we're smart, no its just a really slow evolution of getting way smarter but somehow we dont have any proof, idk about that man
>>43002440neigh>>43002463i think the mushroom eating hypothesis is BS. and it's not like it's widely heralded as the perfect explanation, either. on the contrary i would say it's quite fringe. most people will always tell you that eating shrooms may or may not have been one possible contributing factor, but by no means the only one. going from no civilization to civilization is a complex and stochastic process. it may be true that eating shrooms is the real explanation but we have no conclusive evidence one way or the other.
>>42994421>>Humans have existed in our current form for 300,000 yearsreally notour current model is barely 30k oldand there was proto humans and non-humans before us.we were thrash vs the otherswe're the survival model, restless and fast breeding = quantity vs qualitywe outbreed everyone else, all the other species are gone.
>>43002510And NO people will tell you that OP is an accurate understanding of the common model.
>>43002533Never argued otherwise.
>>43002541Glad you agree OP is dishonest.
>>43002549nay
>>43002551You are retarded.
>>43002562oh
>>42994439it's a better theory than the theory of evolution.https://rumble.com/v535lmi-the-return-of-the-program.html?e9s=src_v1_cbl%2Csrc_v1_ucp_a
>>42994421I would explain more, but I've spent my illumination points for the day xD
Would a person from 19th century have same sensibilities as current day person? How about a person from renessaince era? Person from 1st century? If 200 years make a difference, you bet your ass primitive culture with no recording and barely no means to pass information and education will be taking tens of thousands years to evolve
>>43003183Yeah but there's nothing scientific about your speculative half assed theorizing.
>>43003220?
>>42994421Lemuria and Atlantis were advanced before they fell too
>>42994421>suddenly decided to invent civilizationWhat do you mean by suddenly?
>>42994421Eh, we had a burst of tech progress around 70kya, too. Most likely stuff learned from Neanderthals, who were far more developed than science dared to acknowledged until very recently. We were somehow more versatile, took the tech and ran wild with it.The shift around 10-13kya was likely to a change in weather patterns, combined with some clever head wanting to purposefully plant cereals, the rest is history.
This planet undergoes cataclysmic events every 3,500 years or so that fuck up everything, the last one (two in one really) was the pair of pole shifts circa 1,500bce from venus swinging by (how and when atlantis sunk btw). About 3,500 years prior to that was mercury swinging by and electromagnetically frying the memory of everyone on earth. Another 3,500 earlier there's whatever ended the age of leo and killed the civilization that built the pyramids and sphinx.These things keep happening like clockwork and obviously on purpose so humans don't advance too much. It's not that men didn't do shit for 300,000 years OP, they just weren't allowed to get away with it.We're currently due for another of these cataclysms by the way.
>>43005591>These things keep happening like clockwork and obviously on purpose so humans don't advance too much.I should add, it's really like the harvest in mass effect when you think about it. Makes you suspect the "prison planet" and "loosh" theories are both true, and evil higher-ups somewhere in the aether are causing regularly timed destruction on this planet to keep everyone down and suffering for loosh extraction.
>>4300557370ky ago was a major bottlenect for men on earth, biggest doom in our recent historythe shift around 10-13kya was the younger dryasGet this, we've been having ice ages for like 2.5 millions yearsits a cycle run by earth tilt and position vs the sun, there's like 4-5 variablesthey last about 125k and a cycle look like this80ky of ice age time, snow doesnt melt in the summer and accumulate to create ice sheetsthat's a bit above the tropicsthen the meltijng phase last a good 15kyand last, our time, the warm phase that last about 15 to 20ky. we're about 10k in the warm phaseand repeat!the younger dryas was near the end of the melting phase and it was a return to ice age mode condition for 1000 yearsso it fucked up everyone including the mega fauna, they died at the start of the YD, not at the end like regular tards are assumingthe rising of the ocean is also greatly exagerated, there was no ''flood', the sea level rise was twice the regular rate of the meltring phase, like 2 inch per year, its a lot but not a retarded biblical flood.the melting phase is the most dangerous period of the cycle because its chaotic and lots of earth change happens with the isostatic reboundice age mode is ok, the ocean level go down and the opposite of the isostatic rebound also cause chaos but the weather is stable, its colderwarm period is also great, the bestSince its about the weather, its not constant, there's a lot of variationscheck the wiki on this and the related pageslike the last ice age before ours was much milder. i bet it helped the others before usCosmic rays are affecting our climate a lot.Burst of cosmic rays emitted by dying stars reach us and create clouds that cool the planetthese colder periods are when life diversity is at its maxthe cold period then to move water north south and spread great conditions for life, mainly food anyway, cosmic rays are at least as impactfull as the other environmental and human factors
>>43005591>pole shifts circa 1,500bcevelikovskytardplanets and moons dont fly around randomly in the solar systemcomparative mythology is not science, its schizo shitread the wall of text above to actually learn something about the real fucking cycles affecting us
>>43006780>muh soienceNo, I think I will not read your wall of midwit faggot shit, and you can suck my balls.
>>42994421>that feel when you know you'd have done very well in the twiddle-thumb era >but you were born in the shit got real era instead
>>43005591>bceoh yeahthe common erathe era that is common to all humanity when that one common event happened haha
>>43007631>common to all humanityNo one ever said it is. When christ-stain europe made up the calendar they were only saying it's common to themselves and their history. If some foreigners like the chinese or jews want to have a different idea of history and use calendars that begin 5000 years ago, literally no one's saying they can't. You reacted over nothing.
>>42994421>Same level of intelligence that we have nowThats where you were lied to. Even only 10000 years ago the average IQ was 70. Thats lower than modern africans.
>>43006883>wall
Half of all humans who have ever lived were born in the last 2000 years. Exponential growth can do crazy things.More man hours of work happen every year now than in millennia of caveman times.
>>42994421>Early 1980s computers have existed in theur current form for 45 years>Same level of hardware that they have now>Sat around running the same simple 8 bit programs for 40 years and then suddenly demo scene ppl figure out how to do things with them ppl couldn't 4½ decades ago>Someone's lying.
>>42994421Humans have existed before time. Which means way before that. And so have monkeys and apes and cavemen. We’re all made with the same materials.
>>42994421Another fun question is what's the lieCycles of collapse and resets, how long does it take for ruins to become indistinguishable from their surroundings?Humanity is even older and so is civilization.
>>43009462Evidence of a civilization at our present tech level will be around for proper geologic eons. All the metals we've ripped out of the earth and scattered around in unnatural chemical forms everywhere, and all the isotope ratios we've changed with atomic bomb testing.
>>43009462The most recent 3 or 4 cycles don't seem to have built things durable enough to have survived natural wear and tear. You have the pyramids, the sphinx and some other megaliths...but (apparently) no evidence of cities or machines. The current cycle has all those in extreme abundance and made seriously thick enough to survive erosion for what should be at least a few thousand years.Imagine white people and jews in the next cycle, say 5,000 AD, trying to cover up all the evidence of 20th/12st century technology. They won't be able to build vaults big enough to hide it all from the peasants.
>>43009492>ancient technology absolutely must have looked exactly like ours>it absolutely must have used the same materials>also there is no way any kind of geological upheaval could cause a city to be subsumed under a tectonic plate after the collapse of said civilization
>>43006780midwit soience parroting NPC faggot
>>42994421>>Same level of intelligence that we have nownot reallycheck bicameral mentality theory for example
just go back 30000 years and sea level are 300ft lowercontinents are wild spaces full of mega fauna predatorswe just hang out on the coasts and travelled by boats, not on inland roadsall those cities are floodedfew cities were inlands but are covered by sands nowthe few ruins we still had acces to were built on and now we think its just natural bedrock foundationsadd isostatic rebound and local floods etcseven then we know there was people living back millions of years and they had tools fire cloths houses boats art etc we didnt invent all of this on our own 10ky ago it was already there when our model popped up on the radar
>>42994648The Great War
>>42995594Look at Sols system as a refuge from something FAR worse
>>42994421The very first premise is bullshit and the rest follows. Society is a eugenics engine, if you opt out, you fail. If you compete but cannot outdo competition, you fail.
>>43010527I refuse to believe that Plato had no "sense of self."
>>42994421Blavatsky was right brosAryan is a time epoch, not a race
>believing in the secular masonic chronology
>>42994421>Someone's lying.The truth was always hidden from us or maybe we never really knew the truth to begin with or maybe it was forgotten or erased, but the fact is that the truth is hidden from us. You are right. Someone is definitely lying. The Government lies, we can't trust them. The best we can do is investigate for ourselves and question everything, only this way we can make some sense of what the truth really is.
>>43018378You can't trust any random person who claims to question the narrative, as well. Most discussion is verifiable by how mundane or sincere it is. If the guy is a performative alpha freak or overly cloying and sensitive, or is too willing too acknowledge absurd things beyond basic metaphysical philosophy or basic religion they are usually one of two things: a) a glowie or b) delusional. For example, I can tell Jon Levi is a sincere man despite my disagreements with him as his beliefs are mundane though eccentric. I can trust that he has done actual research over long years from his delivery and wit. Meanwhile, some channel with a name like TARTARIA EXPOSED full of clickbait thumbnails and videos with AI voices, or a guy trying to form a Wolf of Wallstreet personality cult (i.e. "REAL WIDOW SEES JESUS AND NEPHILIM WATCH NOW")... those are clearly full of shit. Really anyone who can't separate metaphor from reality and believes in things like giant demons and UFO aliens can be instantly written off. Flat Earth is more believable than that shit.
The Theory of Evolution is Satanic and was created by the Freemasons to claim that different species of humans exist it is a racist and Satanic theory and it is false humans have always been the same
>>43018786>giant demons and UFO alienThose are all common sense concepts though, obviously you are conscious and if you think your own consciousness is some kind of illusion created by the interaction of matter, then demons do not exist, but if you think consciousness exists independently then so would mental entities like demons.Equally the UFO as some kind of machine or being from a higher dimension is also plausible, science tells us higher dimensions exist, life would be more likely to evolve their, because such a domain is more complex, and those intelligent being are likely to be curious about our realm.
>>43007708except they didn't call it the 'common era' until the scientific materialists started whining about denoting years "of our Lord"so the globally-minded scientific materialist atheists still chose Christian eurocentrism for the basis of their 'common era'.guess the Democrats really were the real racists all along.
>>42994421>>Humans have existed in our current form for 300,000 years>>Same level of intelligence that we have nowSecond assumption is incorrect. It was not until we left Africa and interbred with Neandertals and Homo Erectus that humans developed intelligence. It's why Sub-Saharan Africans have sub-70 IQs and never independently invented the wheel - they're pure homo sapiens, very inbred.Look at the spread of Y haplogroups: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Y-chromosome_DNA_haplogroup#Major_Y-DNA_haplogroups - it's interesting that Eurasian groups emerge as intelligence and civilisation does. It's likely experiencing actual winter and therefore needing to plan and keep track of time led to the pressure for intelligence to really develop. Africa being tropical/hot constantly meant they never had to forward plan beyond the present. Eurasians invented/discovered just about everything and conquered the world. That's not a coincidence.
>>43019991>they're pure homo sapiens, very inbred.Quite the opposite... there's more diversity in a single crappy African village than on whole continents. Reality is we are the inbreds. We're all branches of the same species. Black people are an evolution of another, extremely similar homo sapien species. Same general genus, different human species. The black race is the remnant of one of the proto-races that hit a genetic bottleneck. They were being helped for a time by others in this regard. Currently interbreeding helps them bypass this obstacle.That part is true: cold weather do select for smarter individualsplenty of studies prove that with us and animals tooThat's not true... It was not until we left Africa and interbred with NeandertalsOut of Africa theory is wrong. When we met Neanderthals, their women were arleady carrying sapiens sapiens mithocondria dna... they had sapiens sapiens females already = 100% sure it wasnt firts contact.
>>43020018>there's more diversity in a single crappy African villageAll Homo Sapiens, no other forms of humans. Ironically it's diversity that drives fitness it seems.>When we met Neanderthals, their women were arleady carrying sapiens sapiens mithocondria dna... they had sapiens sapiens females already = 100% sure it wasnt firts contact.There will have been individual contacts going back thousands of years before we currently believe, it's about when populations were replaced/migrated in such a way that their genes became the dominant ones. mDNA is carried by women, when you conquer a tribe you only kill the men. That's why it's the Y haplogroups that match history. We can see the development and spread of civilisation by genetics. The African environment didn't select for intelligence as strongly as Eurasia, by interbreeding with other archaic humans who have lived there far longer - millions of years. Now it's evidently clear it's the combination that's fitter as we replaced them. I've heard that it could be disease resistance from homo sapiens combined with the cold-weather changes from other species.Africans just simply aren't adapted for civilisation, long-term planning, delayed gratification, etc. That doesn't mean individuals can't, just at population levels averages matter. Sub-70 IQ is so low the US Army can't find a useful role for you - even a janitor is too much responsibility. It is not fair to these people to force them to live in society built for 100 IQ average.
>>43020018species is an arbitrary category. Mad cope.
>>43019882I don't even believe in demons beyond the concept of negative thoughtforms. Sorry, mate. Absolutely nothing in the totality of existence would convince me of UFOs or giants these days, unless those UFOs were made on Earth or the giants were human beings. Higher dimensional "entities" are unrealized forms. They are pointless to worry about, especially when you have faith in God. Also, an idea being common doesn't make it truthful. That's precisely why I said all that.
>>43020018Black people have genetic disparity from whites because they have high traces of homo habilis or some other ape. It's been acknowledged even by the jews.
>>43020182around 3% from neanderthals and denisovans is practically nothing and there are no genes that account for any meaningful differences
>>43020190>around 3% from neanderthals and denisovans is practically nothingWe share ~98% of our DNA with Chimps, and a substantial amount with plants and fungi. Small changes can have dramatic effects.
>>43020154>Sub-70 IQ is so low the US ArmyI think the bar is at 82.the high tech war was particularly hard on 'Africans'they were damanged almost beyond repairin their original form, it was the black men who build most of what we see in Giza. That being said, they are definitively in a deep pit today.>>43020176I posted this often, species are just labels to help us organise the diversity. Its really a human concept, not reality.>>43020177>demonsLike the 'angels' they were never born... but they sure can possess our bodies and spend time here.They can hack our brainlets, our bio computer, and make us see what they want, etc >giantsThe americans found tons of bones when they dug up the mounds all over the USAWe have the OT with giants stories. The book of enoch is also called the book of giants, etc etcGiants and midgets remains were found all over the globe.>UFOspay attention, they're showing alien crafts on TV ffsthere are tens of thousands of casesalso got news for you Jesus was an hybrid, his real father was special and it wasnt Joe, it was Anton.He also survived the cruxifixtion, had a wife and children... all of them had slightly elongated skulls... Templars have all these bones and more.>>43020182we also found traces of ghost species so we're still nubs at hiswe barely scratched the surface because what little we know is already upsetting politically correct faggots so its going nowhere because of retards
>>43020225>demons>angels>giants>alienAll humanoid. That's my biggest problem with most x stuff: normal life on Earth is more diverse than the humanoid form ... and we're related to them. Something from another dimension or planet would be far more different from us. My current hypothesis is that if x beings are real, they're time-travelling humans. It also would explain why they can breathe our atmosphere and any breeding with us.
>>43020270is a humanoid a distinct category of thing?Human is an arbitrary category so what makes something a humanoid?
>>42994477You guys always buy the "visions" you have on these drugs as dogmatic truths. I've never understood that contention because you can be massively delusional about everything on shrooms.
>>43020273>Human is an arbitrary category so what makes something a humanoid?Bipedal, head with 2 forward facing eyes and mouth, two arms with hands and fingers, hair as opposed to fur, etc.Again, life on Earth is more imaginative than this. Spiders, octopuses, insects, etc. life here takes on so many varied forms - and again we're related to them and adapted on the same planet. Something not from Earth ought to be completely alien to us.IF they're real, they're clearly related to us. Even the fact they're interested in us. To a genuine alien we're barely different from any other mammal.
>>43020281It's the propaganda spewing 'find the way' bullshit.
>>43020281What doxastic claims are better if you are on H20 and water?
According to the Masonic theory you are no different from a dog a cat or a fish you are a slave an animal an insect evolved to serve the Masons as for all of humanity behaving like animals that is a different matter they lack moral values
>>42994421If I was in charge, we would still live in caves, enjoy the sun of day and live on hunting with bow and arrow and fishing.
>>42994421Sedimentary civilizationOur passing of information through word of mouth and then later, written language, led to this illusion of explosive growth. Evolution is supposed to take place over millions of years, even fish who fucked like rabbits took 130 to 155 million years to make it to land.We aren't that different from Pompeiians or Mayans, genetically. They had people with high IQ among them too, but they lacked the material of ancient scientists, mathematicians, physicist, etc, for them to study, and it took lifetimes to study these things. If they were born today they'd be shitposting here just like us.If you didn't have this education from your ancestors, you would be a hick that can't read, living in an isolationist caveman tribe, like the sentinelese.But, the fact that we showed up like this does point to purpose, especially with how specifically our religions point to the stars. gods could have emerged from clay pots, or ponds, but they came down from the heavens on a flaming chariot to give us a bunch of rules we aren't instinctively designed to follow. >>42995585>mars nuked themselves>lol
>>42994421>We are entering the 41st millennium Xenogears/Zeboim is pretty spot on understanding between here and the Moon
>>43020286>To a genuine alien we're barely different from any other mammal.You could have that one odd alien who simply appreciates an organism on its own merits, maybe even because they hold some subjective appeal to the alien.Does anyone here have that one odd organism that they really like or find fascinating, even if it's rather mundane and isn't practical to a human?
I am not particulary surprised that /x/ feels somehow as intelligent as stupid apes
>>43020203The neanderthals and denisovans were already hominins, so admixture with them makes even less of a difference. As for the similarities to fungi, a lot of that DNA includes genes universally shared across all life and also a lot of it is what would've been called "junk" DNA, i.e. scientists don't know how or why it does or does not make a difference.
>>43009528Hubris
>>43010527Holy shit. If our academia niggers are this retarded, imagine how smart the average caveman was. No wonder the old civilizations were more advanced
>>43021605Felines big and small for me. Whales for sea creatures. I find all animals and even bugs fascinating
>>43024264u think academia niggers are on 4chan? bicameral mind theory is fringe
>>42994439I love mushrooms and find they theory retardedIt’s possible psilocybin was an evolutionary pressure but we went from cavemen to sapiens because of when intervention. The watchers or Elohim
>>43007732So what changed? It really took 290k years for someone to eat burned meat?
>>42994421>Someone's lying.Read the Enuma Eilish and the Atrahasis The oldest surviving human texts capture exactly what happened. Tldr: lower gods got lazy and created people to do their work for them, upper gods found out and saw humans were becoming too powerful. Upper gods wiped humanity out set limits upon a select few whom the gods kept around to do their work for them. The upper and lower gods never left. The Annunaki and Igigi are still here. We are still doing their work for them. Of course they don't want us to know this. The kings list in the Enuma Eilish basically lines up with exactly how long humans have been on earth. Everything makes more sense when you stop reading our histories as myth.
>>43024313This nigga watched WestWorld and thinks a TV show plot is fringe. And 4Chan is a super secret club too I guess? Lol
>>43028606not sure what tv show youre referring to, but i meant among academics. as for 4chan being a secret club or not, not sure how it relates to the matter at hand but i'd say it's decently well-known by millions and not a club.
>>42994421Wayward Pines was right about everything.
>>42994421All monkey and piggu come from de-evolved people. Countless civilizations have fallen and de-evolved. The Garden of Eden has happened countless times too, to re-introduce advanced humans. So the last one was around 6000 years ago. They were killing each other by generation 2. Lol!
