>>43033287
>But if you tell these same christians that you saw an angel or a demon and you are being serious they call you a schizophrenic
I don't think that's true, I've seen lots of Christians who believe they've met angels and demons.

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And they will disown you for questioning it

>>43033287
define a day in the context of space

>>43033287
Theyre not wrong calling you schizophrenic for seeing angels. They, too, are schizophrenic. So that makes two of you

>>43033304
>talking snakes
>surviving in a whale’s stomach
>living for hundreds of years
>two animals of each species survived on a giant boat
…
>still insists Genesis is literal because “day lengths are relative!!1!1”
brother… it’s a creation myth. it’s symbolic, obviously. even the jews, who wrote it, acknowledge that. You can still be religious and acknowledge that genesis is a story.

>>43033329
>the leviathan
>living et all
>closer to the source
>950~ years old during a time when fallen angels mingled with women to create nephilim; sigiriya, longyou caves, a multitude of walls fitted together with megalith blocks that are precisely arranged with nobs all over the world

>the giza pyramids and so on in the shape of orions belt and these pyramids combined with the mexican pyramids and whatever the other ones are that also form orions belt across the globe
uwot

it says Noah had been involved with animal husbandry as his work
even bar that no one ever conceives of them being infant animals let alone some genetic seed in the form of blood

science is the study of nature and clearly the fallen angels had scooped out a multitude of metric tons of stone with no debris piles in sight and sourced a multitude of granite and other stones from far away to build places like angkor wat

the jews wouldnt be capable of writing the summit of the natural philosophy
that stands in opposition of everything they do.
love > masturbation and there is a multitude that you have to understand
this is the world hitting its breaks for the average retard, who could?
truth is such a teacher that the bible wouldnt have been necessary in a technical sense
there is no way anyone is smart enough to think about it on their own
yet still peace is the messiah

go contend me here
https://boards.4chan.org/sci/thread/17064954/homosexuality-is-just-mental-illness#bottom

>>43033422
why did you put your preference at the end there?

>>43033436
thats a pretty mentally ill argument

>>43033414
holy boomer cope
>muh rock stacks

The Jews were absolutely capable of writing it just like they write comic books today

>>43033457
your argument is nothing
you have no understanding

>>43033445
it's a question. if you don't know an argument you ain't worth debating.

>>43033467
thats the summit of what you have to offer

>>43033463
I understand everything, actually, and I don’t require any ancient myths to fill in the gaps. I’ll grant you that they’re complicated, cool sounding, and fun to think about

>>43033473
ad hominin, like everything you've said.
train your Qi before returning here

>>43033479
>>43033480
find something worthwhile to say
eventually youre going to have to do that
its not a game to me

>>43033287
It's not even worth it to type out a reply to this thread

>>43033486
We’re two separate people, but how about this: In Genesis the characters’ names frequently function as narrative labels or wordplays that encode their mythic roles, suggesting that at least some of these figures were constructed as literary/theological characters rather than being remembered simply as ordinary historical individuals. This is not unlike Jewish comic books today, where a character named “Sinestro” is the bad guy’s name.

For example:
Adam - earth/ground, the human made from the ground
Eve - life, the mother of all living
Cain - acquired, the son Eve says she has “acquired” from God
Abel - breath/vapor, the short-lived brother whose life is like a breath
Seth - appointed, the son appointed in Abel’s place
Noah - rest/relief, the man who brings relief from the cursed ground
Isaac - laughter, the miraculous child whose birth is surrounded by laughter
Jacob - heel/supplanter, the younger son who grasps his brother’s heel and supplants him
Israel - one who struggles with God, Jacob’s new name after wrestling with God
Ishmael - God hears, the abandoned son whose cries God hears
Reuben - “see, a son,” Leah’s firstborn, whom she hopes will make Jacob see her
Judah - praise, the son whose birth prompts Leah to praise God
Joseph - add/increase, the son Rachel names in hope that God will add another son

>>43033519
the entire bible is encoded with prophecies
why on earth would it not be like that?
thats evidence for it not proof against it
thats amazing

>>43033523
Is Green Lantern a prophecy because Sinestro wound up being the bad guy?

You’re begging the question

>>43033534
friend the whole thing is encoded to the extreme
such that modifying it at all would be very difficult
and it has multiple iterations

this isnt green lantern its the natural philosophy

>>43033541
You know what else is encoded to the extreme? Myths.

>>43033545
no they arent. nothing has the discovery
of the bible for breadth
like the ox thing people were figuring out here
the gems in Aaron's breastplate there are
probably multiple references in the stars

the thing that is imperative to understand is that
man cant produce so the philosophers stone is impossible
thats what the star of remphan means and their 911 ritual
no one can judge because we didnt make anything
we can only scatter as per the heat laws
why precedes how in the fundamentality of logic
consider the vitruvian man/the squared circle and measurements corresponding
with the doctrine as above so below and psalm 82

peace is perfect faith
God counts a king in place of the sheep for the most part
and Jesus is the shepherd who gave his life for the sheep.
he lived in perfect faith such that it is acceptable to God
if we wobble, then we can put our faith in this gift of salvation

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>>43033549
Bro you just described mythology again. Myths have absurdly dense cross-references, symbolism, astronomy, numerology, genealogy, and later reinterpretations — exactly like what the DC universe has. ‘There are probably references in the stars’ is also not evidence of anything until you establish the references aren’t being found because you’re looking for them.

>>43033557
you can say anything you want and there are
a multitude of people capable of calling either of
us an idiot and are able to prove it if they can

you are saying that they wrote it because
there are millions of autists willing to write
fan fiction about superheroes
there is no breadth to your argument

>>43033565
>there are millions of autists willing to write fan fiction about [abrahamic myths]

>>43033569
you couldnt haphazardly insert any of them into the bible

>>43033577
then you should stop doing that

>>43033583
uwot
i didnt physically write anything into the bible
im following the course of logic freely on my own
and anyone could point at a flaw in what im saying
and i would accept it. im not standing in the way

>>43033587
You don’t have to physically write it into the Bible to write it into the interpretation of the Bible, which is literally all you've been doing with your hermeneutics, autist.

>>43033594
there is no way to not mess up the encoding
of the bible if you insert stuff into it

>>43033598
The Bible told me you’re wrong, so…

>>43033604
blind faith may well be required of the sheep
but the shepherd utilizes knowledge of the truth.
it is the aim to get them to see a very real fact.

faith is interesting in itself
those who are inclined to hear the truth let it in
and those who want to hear lies hear those instead

>>43033622
It’s encoded in the Bible that you’re one of the sheep

>>43033625
id like to liken myself to a lamb for the sake of the analogy
peace is intelligence, wisdom is king.

>>43033287
A Christian priest came up with the big bang theory

>>43033647
Damn nigga, that's nuts. Christian friars, bishops, ministers and priests also came up with theories for Mendelian inheritance, stratigraphy, acoustics, wave optics, astronomical spectroscopy, Bayesian probability, crystallography, blood pressure and plant transporation.

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>>43033298
Based parents.

>>43033523
>the entire bible is encoded with prophecies
why can't you guys see you're being played

>>43033792
>based parents
based = self-righteous, narrow-minded, ideological, disowning your children for having critical thought/not sharing your views

>>43033832
Have you tried not being a homosexual?

>>43033863
Have you tried not being a christcuck with a victim mentality?

>>43033821
you are led to destruction
as all adult children and the mindless
its not a debate
you dont understand what im saying
pride is a control mechanism
the satanist leads all who will mindlessly vie
into saturn's mouth as a golem who
coughs up his soul for a masturbatory puff

the soul is generated on this premise.
the bread and the wisdom are at ends.
where you dig your heels into the ground you make
yourself retarded.
you are then led by what they thoroughly control.
there is not much in society presently that isnt
the satanist's circus to fleece the sheep
and manage saturns hierarchy.
probably nothing you desire has gone unaccounted for.
everything outside of faith is the result of pride
which is personal love.
all those who love themselves cant love God
because they are enamored in saturns hierarchy
to consume their brothers and sisters and be consumed.

a king does well with the resources
not the money

masturbation has no high end
it is all homosexuality and cuckoldry

>>43033885
I only read a sentence of that and then ignored the rest, just letting you know that I reject you as you're an energy vampire only seeking to bring others down to your level.

>>43033894
if you ever want to learn the truth i am here for all of you

>>43033919
the truth comes from within

OP has one fair point: “I saw an angel/demon” is not enough to diagnose schizophrenia.

But the reverse is also true: believing angels exist does not prove every strange experience was angelic.

Biblically, the rule is neither blind belief nor mockery:

> “Believe not every spirit, but try the spirits...” — 1 John 4:1

A few corrections:

• Christianity does not teach “a man created the universe.” John 1 says the divine Word created all things and later became flesh.

• Exodus says the LORD divided the sea; Moses is the commanded agent, not an independent magician.

• Genesis says animals “after their kind,” not “two of every modern species.”

• “Even Jews admit Genesis is symbolic” is false. Jewish interpretation is diverse.

• Genesis 6 may plausibly refer to heavenly beings, but it does NOT say they built Giza, Longyou, Sigiriya, Angkor, etc. That requires separate archaeological evidence.

• “Archaeologists don’t know X” does not mean “therefore fallen angels.”

Best rule for the whole thread:

What exactly is the claim?
What evidence supports it?
What does Scripture actually say?
Where does interpretation begin?
What would falsify the theory?

> “Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.” — 1 Thess. 5:21

Don’t automatically believe it.
Don’t automatically mock it.
Test it.

>universe is 6,000 years old
>earth is flat

all true btw.

>a man created the universe in 6 days
god, we were simply created in his image.

>>43033647
>christian asserts that the universe had a beginning
woah no way

>>43034030
its answerable from within but who has the
wisdom for love?

>>43034052
definitely not your 'god'

>>43034044
>god, we were simply created in his image.
I hate your faggot ass, you're one of the worst posters on this board. You have to be a shill.

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>>43033519
People write it
Its prophecies not come true

Every year
>WORLD GONNA END WORLD GONNA END
Every year
>lol jk guys world not end

Then they use it threaten you w punishment if you dont give them $$$
Or they claim you is demon possess if you dont agree w false prophets and refuse to become some church leaders personal ATM

Every church leader
>GIVE US MONEY N BUY OUR BOOKS DONT LISTEN TO THAT OTHER CHURCH N CONFESS UR SINS TO US WHILST WE TAKE YOUR $$$ OH BTW IGNORE OUR SINS WE IS DA "CHOSEN ONES" WE CAN DO NO WRONG

>WORLDS DEFINITELY GONNA END SOON GUYS, THATS WHY WE NEED YOUR $$$, U BETTER GIVE US $$$ SO U DONT GO TO HELL, YA WICKED SINNER
>OH U DONT AGREE W US? UR JUST TO EGOTIST UR JUST NOT WORTHY OF US UR JUST TOO WORLDLY UR A BAD LITTLE BOY U DESERVE BE PUNISH BC NOT GIVE US UR $$$

>>43034141
>NOO U IS "UNCLEAN SPIRIT" U MUST GO FALSE FAITH HEALER N DO RITUAL MAKE "UNCLEAN SPIRIT" GO AWAY N U MUST DO SAME RITUAL OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER LOL JK ACKSHUALLY UR WORKS NOT ENOUGH TO SAVE U, DO MORE GOOD DEEDS FORGIVE MOST EVIL HUMANS ON PLANET AND ALSO HATE YOUR OWN LIFE N ONLY SPREAD WORD SPREAD SPREAD SPREAD RELIGION ALSO NEVER LISTEN TO MUSIC OR PLAY VIDEOGAMES OR DO ANYTHING ENJOYABLE ONLY EVER GIVE $$$ TO RELIGIOUS LEADER OH BTW U R SINNER U R NEVER GOOD ENOUGH TO GO TO HEAVEN

>>43034159
>OH ALSO IGNORE CHURCH LEADER ABUSES OF CHILDREN AND USE OF DECEPTION TO MAKE LOTS OF $$$ FOR THEMSELVES BUT IF YOU WANT HAVE $$$ THATS GREED BUT IF CHURCH LEADER HAS LOTS OF $$$ HEHE WELL THEY R JUST "BLESSED BY DA LAWD"

>>43034168
>HRM, BE KIND TO SELF N OTHERS
>LOL NOPE, NOT GOOD ENOUGH, U MUST DO CHURCH RITUAL, U MUST OBEY BAD CHURCH LEADER HURT CHILDREN
>OH BTW, U MUST SELL ALL UR STUFF TO POOR PEOPLE, BUT NOT IF U R A CHURCH LEADER

>>43034180
No. My answer is no.
>WE WILL LIE TO YOUR FUCKING FACE, DEMAND YOUR $$$, THREATEN YOU W BE TORTURED, FUCK YOUR CHILDREN, BUT, WE HAS THE BIBLE, WE SPEW BIBLE VERSE AT YOU, LIE TO YOU, TAKE YOUR $$$, FUCK YOUR KIDS, BUT HEY, WE ATE THE CRACKERS AND DRANK THE WINE, U BETTER OBEY US
>OH U DONT LIKE US, WELL THATS AH UHH, "DEMONIC PRINCIPALITY", U GOTTA GO DO MORE RITUALS OH BTW WORLDS GONNA END, GIVE US $$$

>>43034192
>OHH, U THINK WE R ALL FALSE PROPHETS AND DELUDED? WELP, U R BLASPHEMER, HOW DARE U REJECT THE AUTHORITY OF CHILD ABUSER CULT LEADERS
>WE ALL KNOW, ITS WHAT MUSIC U LISTEN TO, N WHAT RITUAL OBJECTS IN UR HOUSE THATS IMPORTANT, NOT WHETHER U HATE N DETEST CHILD ABUSER CULT LEADERS

>>43034133
thats what was given to us to understand in genesis.
love is self sacrifice.
blessed are those who are eunuch for the sake
of the kingdom of heaven.
that is the summation of psalm 82.
however to fail is to understand love fractionated.
we are destined to die because we cant produce.
so we have to have children who go on.
the opposite is masturbation. tool use upon procreation.
to understand love is to sacrifice yourself for everyone else.
not just to kill yourself but to live out the use that you can
understand while following peace entirely.
peace is intelligence.
why precedes how.
the word precedes the number. first there was a reason before there was creation.

because we dont have the answers the only winning move is to concede.
however we have to take on the debt of others to make an atonement for our souls
because we have erred at some point along the way.
sacrifice is also in understanding, so that the sheep are fed wisdom to help them.
God is the God of love.
following the most High is in understanding the summation of psalm 82.
and morality is driven into the ground by contention.
from an early age we make mistakes.
morality would be recognizing the errors before they happened and living as a sacrifice.
thats what Jesus did.
however there is only One who is perfect and that is God.
Jesus is following as closely as possible to God.
we all fall short of his teaching.
we wobble in faith as a result of pride.

love is the summation of all of this logic.
it is that peace is perfect faith in infinity.
where we fall short we dig our heels into the ground with desire.

its a law. its as immoveable as any foundation.
this is a law in the same sense as the heat laws.
we cut a form with pride. we exist because we get it wrong.
thats Adam and Eve having eaten from the tree of knowledge.
because they dont already know the answers, they cognize.
thats what a soul is. the result of the choices we make.
we are from this lineage.
love is perfect.
with man its impossible but with God all things are possible.
God is the God of mercy, showing mercy to who he will.
it is that we all err and have to understand who the good shepherd is.
God's children are all those who understand love.

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>>43034198
>HOW DARE U JUSTLY ACCUSE CHURCH LEADERS OF ACTUAL DETESTABLE, EVIL, AND ABOMINABLE DEEDS, LIKE CHILD ABUSE, FRAUD, FALSE PROPHECY, AND LYING TO ALL OF UR FOLLOWERS TO MAKE $$$
>U BETTER LISTEN TO N OBEY US, N ESPECIALLY GIVE US $$$, TO GO TO "HEAVEN"

>>43034205
>THESE DEAD PEOPLE ATE A FRUIT THATS WHY U MUST GIVE $$$ TO CHURCH TO GO TO HEAVEN DONT QUESTION THIS JUST OBEY CHURCH LEADER
>OH BTW WORLDS GONNA END, GIVE CHURCH LEADER YOUR $$$

>>43034227
>OH YEAH, EVERY YEAR, WORLDS DEFINITELY GONNA END, AND UH, ONLY CHRISTIANS GO TO HEAVEN, OH IF U DISAGREE? U BETTER DO CHURCH RITUAL N GIVE $$$ TO CHURCH. DISAGREE W CHURCH LEADER TELL U *WORLD GONNA BE DESTROYED* MEANS U IS *HELLBOUND SINNER* U BETTER DO CONFESS AND PRAY EXACTLTY CORRECT WAY

>>43034227
the meat of all of your arguments seems to be
that people are corrupt, therefore the law must be corrupt.
the first church was corrupt let alone anything resembling one today.
some people really do try to get it right, others genuinely try to extort.
it isnt people that matter at all
its an immoveable law that binds us to truth.
science and wisdom are discovery

no one knows the time of the world ending
you should read the bible

>>43034241
>BEING KIND TO PPL NOT JUST CHRISTIANS? REFUSE DO ENDLESS RITUALS N ENDLESS CONFESS SINS TO EVERY PRIEST ON PLANET??? U SINNER!!!

>>43034244
>u should read the bible
>YEAH BRO JUST READ MORE BIBLE DO ABSOLUTELY NOTHING BUT READ BIBLE OVER AND OVER AND OVER
Yeah bro people do not matter at all, only books matter, books are more important than people!

>>43034253
you should understand the truth so you can help
the people

>>43034244
>no one knows the time of the world ending

So yes, u r telling me, every christian religious leader is an absolute 100% liar, fraud, charlatan, and not to be trusted? Bc they keep telling me the worlds gonna end soon, and they also need our $$$ to go to heaven

>>43034260
some people really are liars
others are trying
its important to read the book yourself
the church is meant to help people understand
but not many people do.
there is a bell curve and its mostly the case that
there isnt a need for a liberator until its very serious

>>43034254
Truths kinda ugly bro
>all ur cult leaders demand your $$$ to go to heaven
>abt 10% of them are kid fuckers
>they also threaten u with torture and use trauma based mind control practices to enforce discipline
Like
>demand u starve yourself
>demand u deny yourself sleep so you can pray at church
>isolation chambers
>beating children w sticks and threaten them w hell torture and make them stare at man on torture device and say *thats the man u have to make urself like*
>then call u delusional for not like them very much
>then make movies where they show that man get severely beaten and whipped over and over and over again and tell your children to watch that

>>43034275
you didnt understand anything i said
youre moving the bar to the people again
contend the word written in the bible

>>43034275
>OHHH U IS NOT TRUST RELIGIOUS LEADER BC U NOTICE THEYRE POWER MAD AND LIKE TO HURT CHILDREN
>THATS A DEMON BRO, U GOTTA GO DO THE CHURCH RITUAL N CAST THAT OUT BY VOMITING
>HEHE, NO SALVATION OUTSIDE THE ASSEMBLY OF CHOMO CULT LEADERS IN THEIR TEMPLE MADE W HUMAN HANDS
>OH DISAGREE? WELL UR JUST TOO WORLDLY.

>>43033287
>But if you tell these same christians that you saw an angel or a demon and you are being serious they call you a schizophrenic.
you're getting mad over a caricature, plenty of them believe but dont like to talk about it in secular places for optics. And they enjoy sharing stories about mystical experiences. you must only know uptight episcopalian WASPs or some shit

>>43034289
don't bother lole, these retards can't see that the formation of their entire religion/belief system, its global rise to power and its destruction is all created by design. Resets are cyclical and the elites love to hide behind various titles/religions. It's all smoke and mirrors

only few really understand the bigger picture.

>>43034282
BIBLE BIBLE BIBLE BIBLE BIBLE
IGNORE EVERYTHING BUT BIBLE
BIBLE BIBLE BIBLE BIBLE
>PAY NO ATTENTION TO BAD DEEDS OF LEADERS
BIBLE BIBLE BIBLE BIBLE BIBLE

>>43034330
NAH BRO
>BIBLE BIBLE BIBLE BIBLE BIBLE BIBLE

>>43034331
>>43034334
>BIBLE BIBLE BIBLE BEEBLE BABBLE BOOBLE BIBLE BIBLE BIBLE

>>43034331
ask him who invented the printing press and why
ask him why Texas is now pushing the Bible for required reading in public schools coincidentally around the same time Christianity is being pushed heavily within the far-right even by ''alternative'' figures/'outsiders' like Sam Hyde and TPUSA, Putin is calling America and the West by extension ''Satanists'' (Operation SIG ring a bell?), and Mel Gibson (beloved far-right spook/''anti-semite'') is releasing two sequels to his christcuck blood sacrificial display.. this happening after vance says aliens are demons/fallen angels lol
ask him why the bible is in every US jail and hotel room too
and why 2027, a year that is supposedly big in astrology, for religious cultists, and UFO fags.. all of this is happening around the same time. And AI singularity as well? Nah, not created by design at all.

these people can't see they're being set up for a future divide-and-conquer sacrificial war i.e. another Thirty Years War occult ritual against New Agers/atheistic UFO transhumanists. It's all one big bullshit show, but hey if they wanna be apart of this world and die for some '''noble''' cause all the while hating on their fellow man so be it

>enter thread
>scroll to bottom
>people speaking in gibberish
Lol.

>>43033287
Larp and bait thread

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>>43033298

The monkey throwing a conniption fit on capslock sure has me convinced. I will now convert to the true faith of chronically online fedoratipping.

>>43036120
>people who can't grasp the concept of contitutionally enshrined speration of church and state are retarded
Whoa dude, nowai. I guess all Christians are retarded, then.

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>>43036151
separation*

>>43033792
Holy retardation, yes, disown your children for not following narrow dogma and bowing your head to slavery to human institutions, this is totally what the all loving Aeon Christ who died fighting religious institutions would have wanted, you all are complete fucking clowns.

>>43033298
This is what abrahamic nicene jewish slavery egregores do lol, the fruit of evil is strife, division, pain, hate and slavery

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>>43033880
Just say you're gay bro, we know why you hate God