Solomon's Temple in Jerusalem EditionChristian Esotericism is the inner and/or mystical aspect of the Christian Religion, it includes:>Christian Gnosis (Clement of Alexandria)>Desert Fathers Spirituality (Evagrius Ponticus)>Catholic Contemplative Tradition (Bonaventure)>Hesychasm (Gregory Palamas)>Chivalry (Wolfram von Eschenbach)>Christian Alchemy (George Ripley)>Rhineland Mysticism (Meister Eckhart)>Christian Cabala (Johannes Reuchlin)>Paracelsianism (Paracelsus)>Rosicrucianism (Robert Fludd)>Christian theosophy (Jakob Böhme)>Martinism (Louise Claude de Saint-Martin)>Swedenborgianism (Swedenborg)>Magical Idealism (Novalis)>Romanticism (Baader)>Anthroposophy (Rudolf Steiner)>Sophiology (Sergei Bulgakov)>Christian Hermeticism (Valentin Tomberg)>Fourth Way (Boris Mouravieff)>Christian Traditionalism (Jean Borella)>Divine Love (James Padgett)And much more, so let's continue to talk about it!>Resources (WIP)https://www.john-uebersax.com/plato/cp.htmhttps://jacobboehmeonline.com/https://archive.org/details/awakening-to-divine-wisdom-christian-initiation-into-three-worl-nodrm_202202/mode/1uphttps://janelead.org/resources.htmlhttps://archive.org/details/bookofcontemplat00unde/https://archive.org/details/rudolf-steiner-book-collection/https://swedenborg.com/bookstore/free-ebooks-downloads/https://www.gornahoor.net/?page_id=47https://archive.org/details/meditations-on-the-tarot/https://files.catbox.moe/8n4061.djvu (Meditations on the Tarot)https://eliasartista.substack.com/https://passtheword.orghttps://catenabible.com/mt/previous: >>42942490
an interesting take on the way of the crosshttps://jhna.org/articles/crusading-in-a-lisbon-convent-the-making-and-meaning-of-the-passion-of-christ-in-jerusalem/full size painting (8 megabytes):https://jhna.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Fig-01-Passion-Of-Christ.jpg
To the anon asking for guardian angel tips why not try some Echonian rituals and see where that gets you, might get something
According to the old (pre-Vatican II) calendar, today used to be the feast day of St. Therese of Lisieux>For some time I had been accustomed to offer myself as a plaything to the Child Jesus. I told Him not to treat me like an expensive toy which children look at but dare not touch. I was a cheap little ball which He could fling on the ground or kick or pierce or leave neglected in a corner or even press to His Heart if it gave Him pleasure. To put it in a nutshell, I longed to amuse the little Jesus and offer myself to His childish whims.>He answered my prayer. In Rome, Jesus pierced His little toy. He wanted to see what was inside and then, having found out, He let His little ball drop and went to sleep. What did He dream about and what happened to the abandoned ball? Jesus dreamt that He was still playing with it, picking it up and dropping it, letting it roll away from Him, but in the end pressing it close to His Heart and never letting it slip again from His little Hand. You can understand, Mother, how sad the little ball was to see itself lying on the ground, but she went on hoping against all hope.Excerpt from The Story of a Soul, Chpt 6, p90
Nice, we're back.>Catholics be like: did you see the new patch notes?I jest, what has everyone been reading?
https://pulpfictionrenaissance.com/2023/07/07/what-dion-fortune-mom-knew-the-biblical-king-arthur-connection/
>>43037843can't really say it's esoteric, tho policing and detention (as a branch of local government, and not central government) seems to be an uniquely christian institutionRome also had detention, but from what I gather either till they figured out what to do with the convict... or for life
>>43037843Some Yeats. Got me thinking.>Hammer noted that between 1880 and 1884 Sinnett received from the mahatmas circa one hundred twenty letters with explanation of "occult cosmology". From this material, he attempted to formulate in his new book "the basis of a revised theosophy."Pre-internet "hello saar" lol>The core connection between the Irish poet William Butler Yeats (W.B. Yeats) and the English theosophist Alfred Percy Sinnett (A.P. Sinnett) lies in the profound influence Sinnett’s occult writings had on Yeats’s spiritual evolution and poetry.There goes Celtic Protestantism...>Ireland had been officially Protestant only since the Reformation. Yeats’ nostalgic vision leap-frogged the Catholic centuries back to a time before St. Patrick. But there was no stopping the papists. And no evocation of a roseate Celtic past or any number of seances could lift Yeats’ gloom about the eclipse of his world of privilege and elite “wisdom.” Not even the 1923 Nobel Prize for Literature could help that.Is "Celtic nostalgia" just Hindooism in disguise?>We can say a little more. Yeats was deeply invested in ritual. His instincts in this respect are more Catholic than Protestant: life lived where “all’s accustomed, ceremonious” is exactly what he wishes for his daughter.Of course the devil is not so black as he is painted...>An early champion of Indian-inspired thought in the West was Arthur Schopenhauer who in the 1850s advocated ethics based on an "Aryan-Vedic theme of spiritual self-conquest", as opposed to the ignorant drive toward earthly utopianism of the superficially this-worldly "Jewish" spirit.Quite a coincidence, sharing the same time period with Blavatsky's society and Emerson & Thoreau's translations of Hindoo texts.So what can be considered the "most advanced" Western Esoteric work before it got jeet'ed in 1950? Excluding Jewish, Catholic, and Orthodox works -- they arguably continued .
>>43037553>Solomon's Temple in Jerusalem EditionIs Margaret Barker still alive? What do y'all think of her theories, especially that king Josiah didn't actually clean the temple to its former original form as God intended, but he corrupted it himself through his reforms?
>>43038696She's right and still alive.
>>43038624bro why are you fighting your mask when you ARE the light, the star of david already did the math on this like centuries ago, two triangles don't oppose they complete, you're not cave-watching the fire you're the thing that makes the fire visible, the conflict you think you're in is just you forgetting you brought the candle.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83x2B133wls
>>43038748Well said, I hope Yeats also reads it lol
https://www.rtmullins.com/podcast/episode/d9afe2e3/ep-204-god-emotion-and-classical-theists-missing-the-point
>>43038748You are a predicated light but not the source of light.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kE5Gu47spug
>>43039048The wheel doesn't spin for luck, what matters is what's riding it.
>>43039571https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfPcf9vPCxY
>>43039974the ark doesnt ask the ones it chose, they were built for it before they knew what they were being built for.
>>43040061>A bivouac is an organic structure formed by migratory driver ant and army ant colonies, such as the species Eciton burchellii. A nest is constructed out of the living ant workers' own bodies to protect the queen and larvae, and is later deconstructed as the ants move on.
>>43038624>So what can be considered the "most advanced" Western Esoteric work before it got jeet'ed in 1950?you mean 1850 I assume?
>>43041285Yes, said the man to himselfStingless bees build some Lovecraftian (or at least, stereotypically horror-movie) tier nests/hives... they don't die off in the winter like European or Asian honeybees, and they don't like hexagons either...
>>43038624>So what can be considered the "most advanced" Western Esoteric work before it got jeet'ed in 1950?The art of memory, it was used to memorize the gospel as well as to meditate on it by visualizing the compressed memory image corresponding to that specific book. It was also used for summoning. It later got incorporated into hermeticism and alchemy, mostly by mirroring the structure of the cosmos like what Giordano Bruno was doing (his art was probably also a form of "automated" thinking). Masonic lodges look weird because you're supposed to use them as memory palaces.
>>43041168The humanoid nurtures and protects its fragile little self, afraid of becoming WHOLE.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWu45du47Yo
>>43041467
>>43041551The circle is the only shape that points back to itself.
>>43041609>It was a vast boat that saved two of each animal and a handful of humans from a catastrophic flood.>But forget all those images of a long vessel with a pointy bow; the original Noah's Ark, new research suggests, was round.>A recently deciphered 4,000-year-old clay tablet from ancient Mesopotamia – modern Iraq – reveals striking new details about the roots of the Old Testament tale of Noah. It tells a similar story, complete with detailed instructions for building a giant round vessel known as a coracle – as well as the key instruction that animals should enter "two by two."sounds like a good shape, ufo's also use it
>Henry Sulley (1845–1940) was an English architect and writer on the temples of Jerusalem.
>>43041687Creation doesn't have a circular shape. The whole fundamental meaning of the thing itself is removing those frameworks. Infinite recursion with no exit, the coracle surviving the flood so the self can spend eternity explaining the shape of the coracle. Everything built on top of that in esoteric tradition is people mistaking the boat for the river.
>>43041820reminds me of Chesterton saying that Eastern cultures fried their brains with that kind of thinking
>>43041850You drew a circle around the circle to disprove the circle, circled back to a circular boat as evidence, built a circular argument on top of that circle, and the circle closed exactly where it always does.
>>43041860cool story bro
>private property or monism, that is the question
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJFhQhmdT2g
Anyone here plugged into the Los Angeles Underground? I'm looking for something very specific but I don't know where to go to find it.
Excellent new video on the Jewish-Freemasonic assault on Christianity:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytV6aofmhzw
Francis Schaeffer seems interesting. I get the impression that he may be misrepresenting Hegel, but other than that, there is something compelling about his "line of despair" view of ancient Christian history, which gives birth to the idea of a non-Neoplatonic Christianity.
>>43041551>Phlebas the Phoenician, a fortnight dead,>Forgot the cry of gulls, and the deep sea swell>And the profit and loss.> A current under sea>Picked his bones in whispers. As he rose and fell>He passed the stages of his age and youth>Entering the whirlpool.> Gentile or Jew>O you who turn the wheel and look to windward,>Consider Phlebas, who was once handsome and tall as you.
i found this book a decent underpainting for Voegelin's objections on the political "use" of monism; it's a very succinct run-down on studies concerning the sociology of power, from the days of Machiavelli till Samuel T Francis' "Enemies of Leviathan" etc.
>>43045866yeah, i looked a bit into his other work, but this one seems more of a textbook than an analysis
>>43046042anon
>>43046042are you the same nigga that thinks he's Jesus?>>43045871>>43045960
>>43040229>>43040229>>43040229
>[...]>The days have been slipping away, and all the pomps of the kingdom of earth. There are not now kings nor emperors nor gold-giving lords like those that used once to be, when they performed the greatest deeds of glory among themselves and lived in most noble renown. This whole company has perished; the pleasures have slipped away. The weaker remain and occupy the world; in toil they use it. Splendour had been humbled. Earth’s nobility ages and grows sear just as each man now does throughout the middle-earth. Old age advances upon him, his face grows pallid, grey-haired he mourns: he is conscious that his former friends, the sons of princes, have been committed to the earth. Then, when life fails him, his body will be unable to taste sweetness or feel pain or stir a hand or think with the mind. [...]>Great is the awesomeness of the ordaining Lord, for this world will pass away; but he made stable the solid foundations, the earth’s surfaces and the sky above. Foolish is he who does not fear his Lord: death will come upon him unpremeditated. Blessed is he who lives in humility: to him will come grace from the heavens. The ordaining Lord will make stable his heart, because he trusts in his might. A man must steer a wilful heart and keep it fixed upon stable points; and, worthy of men’s trust and pure in his ways, each man must conduct himself with moderation through happiness and through adversity, in joy and in affliction, even if the Lord wills to prove him, permeated by fire, or assay, smelted in the flame, the friend he has made. Fate is stronger, the ordaining Lord mightier, than the mind of any man.>Let us consider where we may have a home, and then think how we may get there and how we may henceforth also strive so that we might arrive in everlasting blessedness, where there is life originating in the Lord’s love, and hope, in the heavens.fragment of "The Seafarer," translated by S. A. J. Bradley
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLNsWTj4IW4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JniG7vhj-x0
>>43037553Hello anons. I'd like to request a Prayer. Please Pray for me and my health and wellbeing.I haven't been feeling really good these last few days, and I know that nothing is going to happen to me and that its just my anxiety more than likely but I'm still anxious and afraid, and I need strength from God and Jesus Christ. Thank you, and have a goodnight, Amen.
>>43048111>Philippa’s mother believed in raw foods and had the stove removed from her Harlem kitchen. Neither vegetables nor meat were cooked but were eaten raw.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzjUJeYu2LM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBI5lPYNdzs
>>43041285>1850>The sequence played by J.F. Sebastian and Dr. Eldon Tyrell mirrors the legendary Immortal Game played by Adolf Anderssen and Lionel Kieseritzky in London on June 21, 1851.I guess that's when the replicants won huh.>No, there is no chess game in Philip K. Dick's original 1968 novel Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?Man I love movies.
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Has anyone here read Arthur Versluis’s Platonic Mysticism?
>>43050243Me
>>43050419Right on.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gxh-Yq82JfQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJIJhQI_AbM
Is there anything about 1975? I am reviewing some TV news footage and am surprised to see people "fruiting": 30 year olds in 1990, 50 year olds in 2000, 70 year olds in 2010
Some variations on the Jesus prayer:>Lord Jesus Christ, have mercy on me, a sinner.Mt. Athos monastics seem to teach it this way.>Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner.This one I only see in English-language texts, including English texts published by Russian and Greek Christians.>Lord Jesus Christ, have mercy on me.This shortest form is found in the 1884 Russian classic "The Way of a Pilgrim."My preference after practicing them all is the Mt. Athos format. "Son of God" feels implicit to me, as are many other names and titles of Jesus. Any insights?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S583TSFQOTA
>>43041651>>43041657>>43041660What is the book about anon? Can you give a qrd?
>>43052539
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nuueJCUpkc
>>43050419Any insight? Do you recommend it to others?
>>43052904Ah, so it's a sedevacantist book. Thanks>>43052829>>43052823Yes to both questions.
>>43055195Pope John Paul II was a wonderful man, with timeless wisdom he was not ashamed to share, but maybe shouldn't have been the pope.Benedict XVI was the only "pope" in the pre-Vatican II tradition since that conclave. I hope the current pope becomes more like him...
>>43038696Thank you, never heard of her.>According to her, Sola Scriptura – the doctrine that the Bible is the supreme authority in all matters of doctrine and practice – has hindered rather than helped the understanding of Christianity.When I read this on her wikipedia I came to realize that "Sola Scriptura" is a romantic notion (maybe even the herald of romanticism and everything it implied, including pagan revivals and Golden Dawn style magic), that is very comfy, and I'm grateful for Protestants to seek salvation in nurturing it.
>>43054875Most of his books are good and recommended Though his Platonic Mysticism book is meant to be more general and doesn't have a focus on Christianity, even if he speaks of Dionysius the Areopagite as one of the most important "Platonic Mystics"
>>43057112Yeah, seems like that, but he's still young (in Pope terms) so I still have hopes. I never had hopes that Francis would turn non-commie.
>>43057818this sounds insane even for a conspiracy theory
https://www.transnotitia.com/subverting-the-church/
>>43037843Started reading the Sayings of the Desert Fathers, as I've seen anons discuss it two threads ago.>>43057984>>43059446>>43045117>>43042320>>43042786>>43042221Thank you for sharing this wisdom.
Opinions on the Book of Enoch?
>>43061161which one?I read one where Enoch is alone against all injustice and the Lord plucks him up and shows him heavenly things... after about 30 pages I admit I got bored, but the beginning was incredible (sort of a reverse-Jonas)reading wikipedia now, it looks like it was probably 2 Enoch, and not 1 Enoch... can't really tell, it's too confusing
reverse-Job, pardon me
>>43051981I prefer the long version (which is, if I'm not mistaken, originally from the 6th C. Egyptian anchorite Abba Philimon). I feel like it contains not just the petition for God's mercy but also a correct orientation of both petitioner and the petitionee, i.e. Christ.I also simply use the longer form for utterly mundane reasons; the most common translation of the prayer into my native language happens to be of the long form.
>>43055479The Popes since Vatican II have been very much affected by the weakness of the post-modern age, unfortunately.Benedict XVI is also my favourite recent Pope.>>43057146Francis was probably the worst Pope we had in 100 years. Amoris laetitia, Fiducia supplicans, Traditionis custodes...
>>43042116NO I AM NOT GOD AND I WILL NEVER BE GOD! DON'T YOU GET IT?1. THE FATHER GOD2. THE SON OF GOD3. THE HOLY SPIRIT4. ME5. NEIGHBORIn confession, disciple of Jesus Christ, I have sinned. Save me, LORD, from the allure of Baalim's tabloids and Ashtoreth's fertility apart from wedlock.Thank you very much!
>>43047893Thank you God for this opportunity to pray over Anon. God, strengthen anon that when he wakes up in the morning, that he has strong bones and lubricated joints in Thy name power made perfect in weakness so that he can overcome the wicked one and have the victory for today and the rest of the days. Amen and amen.
Also fuck you for putting a dog down for simply barking. May Charlie Kirk's soul be received by Yahweh and that he get promoted big time.Fuck you in the name of Jesus Christ.
>>43047893Hey anon, I included a prayer in your intention in my everyday novena. May Holy Spirit heal your mind and body, amen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdDdQAX-xJQ
Okay as someone whose a complete newbie to all this, isn't hermeticism pagan?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkG3JUeo8qE
>>43067155Yes Hermetism is a late antique pagan religion and modern Hermeticism is a catch all term for a bunch of different esoteric currentsThis is Christian esotericism, the esoteric/mystical aspect of Christianity which predates Hermetism
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HB6cr3jGAfs
Pirenne's famous book, on our very own European mini-Jerusalems, has made it onto Project Guttenberg and thus can be enjoyed in a high quality version, for free!https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/79759
Welcome to Imperium Christianorum, if you're a catholic, orthodox, magisterial protestant or just an inquirer, interested in medieval or renaissance Christendom and its sciences, look no further for this is the right place for you!>>>/lit/25583837
>>43069252it's okay, for the occasion 4chan goes down for good, i guess
Is this where I can find the Rosa Mira?
>>43069252Are esoteric beliefs such as reincarnation tolerated? I don't believe that "reincarnation" is the proper word for it, but it's the closest approximation of a word to describe it. I'm also interested in Christian alchemy and Christian astrology. If I'm going to get bombarded with doctrinaire lectures on dogma about why I'm wrong about stuff, then it's probably not worth my time.t. raised Catholic
Voodoo for white people: the thread
>>43070861you are welcome, we also have more esoteric channels (including astrology and alchemy) but I'd like the discussions to revolve around how these were understood in the medieval era or at least the renaissance, without post-18th century occultist fancies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juQAX0217fE
>>43071363thank you for your confession, may you move on from such practices
>>43066121>dude the whole world is propagandized except me cuz i get the real news off teitter
>>43071713why do you zoomers froth at the mouth at the sight of twitter/x? i understand democrats who shat themselves when elon musk bought it... but are you so fragile to contamination by low-cost propaganda that you are eating feces with a spoon?
>>43070861did you join yet?
/ceg/ threads heal GATE programming
>>43071198Yes, also known as powwow
>>43071247Steiner was what I would call an intuitive. He understood many things correctly and verified after the fact. His 3 body concept is a common, almost archetypal concept that was shared by the Essenes, just a slightly different wording. It was a different world during his time. Not everyone has the same chances for success in spiritual perfection.
>>43071834NTA but I don't understand why someone would use social media such as Twitter while simultaneously trying to develop mystical practice. The two things seem at odds with each other. I am very skeptical when I see anyone claiming an interest in mysticism that has a presence on the internet. The exception is /ceg/ which I check in on because it's had such an immensely positive impact on my life.
>>43074457I feel the same way and have been trying to limit my social media and internet use because of this. I've had some success in the past. There have been great periods where I used little to no social media or internet slop for months at a time. But my success has been up and down and I'm definitely near the bottom of the pit again now. Since you say this thread has had a positive impact in your life in the past I would really appreciate any advice from you (or any other anons) on how I can dig myself out of this hole again.
>>43074585I think the essence of the "cheat code" solution is to change your life in a way that gives you very little free time. Once that happens you will lament spending even 5 minutes looking at memes because you could have been reading, praying, or doing something creative.For me, it was having a second child. With just one child I still had too much free time.If having kids or unironically becoming a monk aren't possible right now, then you are just stuck in a long uphill battle that you will surely fail at from time to time. That's OK, the important thing is progress.Some small things I can recommend:1. If you have an android phone download fdroid (FOSS app store) and get a habit tracker like Grove or Streak to keep yourself on track.2. Set auto-shutdown on your phone at an earlier than convenient time, say 7pm, and then learn to cope with only physical books and hobbies until you sleep (this is super rewarding).3. Delete all the social media apps from your phone. Set an appointed time to check them from your PC every other day or once a week.
>>430745854. Start paying close attention to what you actually gain from consuming slop. You've seen enough memes and short videos anon. You've seen literally tens of thousands of them and forgotten 99% of it. Even if you cut it out completely, people irl or close internet friends will still send you slop from time to time, and that's more than enough.5. Get a prayer rope and keep it with you at all times. When you have downtime, pray the Jesus Prayer instead of doomscrolling. After a few months of trying, I reached a point where I would rather feel the peace of prayer than distract myself with news, music, or whatever else.6. This one might be the key. I started this six months ago: I don't have a data plan on my phone. I can turn it on in emergencies and they charge me €1 per day for doing that, so I spend maybe €5 a month on data when I need to use maps, essentially. Without a data plan I am so much happier, because I'm not getting caught up in nonsense arguments and news on my phone. Of course there is still wifi everywhere if you need to use a messaging app. Depending on where you live, this could also save you a lot of money.Good luck.
>>43074457that argument doesn't hold water and you know it>>43074585you don't have to struggle, just discard the low quality stuff; maybe take a break for 2-3 days, you return, open your "social media channels" and be disgusted... well, don't uninstall because that would just make you reinstall (if not tomorrow or in a week, maybe in a few months)just unsubscribe from those disgusting things... and keep the few that are authentic and give you value (like you said /ceg/ was on 4chan)repeat that every few weeks and in a few months time you won't even need the feel to check it, even though you know it's thereanyway that's my two cents
BTW social media, it reminded me of a saying from the Desert Fathers (can't find the exact quote now), along the lines of: living among the young precludes spiritual growth.Pic unrelated.
>>43075751>Abba Poemen used to say>If a man dwells with the youth>however much he may guard his thoughts>he makes a means for sin.>Abba Cronius used to say>The man who dwells with the youth will, unless he be mighty, go downwards.>And if he be mighty, even though he might not go downwards temporarily, yet he will never advance in spiritual excellence.pic related
Deut 29:29 - The secret things belong to the Lord our God, but the things revealed belong to us and to our children forever, that we may follow all the words of this law.2 Corinth 11:3 - But I am afraid that just as Eve was deceived by the serpent’s cunning, your minds may somehow be led astray from your sincere and pure devotion to Christ.Why the obsession with esotericism? It is folly to look for "hidden truths" when we have plenty of insight into God's nature via revelation. Don't be like Eve.
>>43077063>Don't be like Eve.is that what happened to trannies?
>>43037553What are the esoteric implications of the pope giving food to Africans?
>>43077232It's possible
>>43077273that it's obvious he was elected because he was always away in South America, smoking pot and sniffing coke with Peruvian shamans (I'm joking but you get the idea), as far removed from the "let the goy deal in the real world" as possiblethis way he can be manipulated by Pope Francis Mafia occult advisors more easily than a 12 year old girl who hates her daddy
I'm reading pope Francis autobiography titled hope, only just started but really not caring his use of sentimentality in order to criticize borders and immigration policies >>43077063There's good esotericism and bad esotericism, although how these are divided may vary.
>>43071198That's basically every general on this board. Please show me which one is for non whites
>>43077063>It is folly to look for "hidden truths" when we have plenty of insight into God's nature via revelation.Hmm, good point, but you are mainly referring to esoteric wisdom, I presume. Abrahamic religions focus on words/thinking, so I consider that you are justified in saying that one should not replace wisdom gained from the Bible (or granted by the Lord or his emissaries) with wisdom culled by less dignified means.Yet we could possibly go forward without violating this tenet of humbleness: music, visual arts, and architecture as manifestations of Christian "esotericism." This way, if I'm allowed speculation, one may delight his or her senses without committing thoughtless action... while those also possessing the wisdom, additionally, may gain more light.
>>43077667Yeah I was referring to esoteric wisdom. You bring up an interesting point though. Is the existence of art itself esoteric or is the art a vessel for conveying esoteric wisdom? Or something else entirely? I don't understand much of what esotericism is, I basically think of it like the da vinci code.
>>43077816>You bring up an interesting point though. Is the existence of art itself esoteric or is the art a vessel for conveying esoteric wisdom?Well, from the perspective I wrote that, only words may be a vessel for esoteric wisdom... so as long as they are not included, it may just be "esoteric" without any external wisdom, in our case Christian" to interpret it. Quite funny, now that I think of it, that the Tarot arcana are called "letters," as the "words" (names) were added later...>Or something else entirely?Well, beyond the two things I mentioned ("yes" and "no") I guess that it's the same issue as with science or medicine... is it just nature studying nature? Is man trying to "kill god" (as we see in many Eastern fiction, flaunted)? Or is man acting in accordance with the Divine Will?Many questions indeed.
>>43077273BRUTAL
https://pre-gebelin.blogspot.com/2009/03/allegory-of-lords-mercy.html
>>43077344>Peruvian shamanswhat could possibly go wrong
>>43037553what exactly did Jesus do by dying on the cross?did he really establish new rules in the world for atonement?
>>43078727>doThat's not how you put the question, amigo. To do something implies that it wasn't already done.But, to answer your question, Jesus wanted the full human experience, including the dying part.From what we read in the Bible, specifically the Gospel of Mark, it wasn't a pleasant experience...
>>43075178This is like some retard shit my dad would be watching on twitter.
>>43080067While I agree with you that it may be considered as insanity, please consider the grain of truth.Jews have gained a land, Israel, which contains the most holy city, Jerusalem. In that place used to sit their most holy edifice, the Temple, that contained the most holy location of Jewishdom: the Holy of Holies.Yet they are like a starving man who has a loaf of bread set before them, and they are not allowed to touch it.Besides, what else would unite the Jews (even if we only count those in Israel) as they already tried settlers, genocide, war, and the fatigue is real.
Did he have a disagreement of our Lady of the Lung (St. Therese of Lisieux)? What happened?
>>43081783He's central casting.
I once read an alchemical text where it was stated "put the most wicked man as your pope." Obviously it can be interpreted as a key to some chemical procedure (like making cosmetics or distilling wine) yet it stuck with me. Many Popes were so humble or satisfied in their status that they fled when they heard the news that they have been elected, and had to be captured. Some popes rose because nepotism (and nobody raised an eyebrow, as they were not yet bent upon destroying continuity). Others gained the position because corruption. Not so long ago it wasn't even a requirement to be a priest in order to become a bishop or a Pope.I can't but sigh, like the lover who's beloved, the Catholic church --traditionally represented as the High Priestess in the tarot, a graphical similitude preserved only in Crowley's Thoth deck, of all places-- has been kidnapped.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fJxAb4wvPw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lP3ORAA7RS4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RB6jWZNAgA
>>43082441it means to only transmute your humility
>>43071834Are you paid to shill for twitter or do you do it for free
>>43083820He has to justify his usage of it. He's not addicted he can quit any time he wants.
>>43067585Hermetism was a philosophy not a religion. It was important to the genesis of the cult of the Sacred Heart of Jesus. The Corpus Hermeticum may date to late antiquity, but it was one document produced by an older tradition. Wherever you find alchemists you will find Hermetic philosophy, and in Christianity, wherever you find symbols of the five wounds of Christ, you will find alchemy. To a very large extent, Christian esotericism = Christian Hermeticism.https://www.cesnur.org/paraclet/guenon.htmlCharbonneau-Lassay's work, published in the last few years in the Vulnerary of Christ reconstituted from his notes, demonstrates a continuous tradition of devotion to the five wounds, centering on the wound in the side, that dates back to the earliest centuries of Church history, the symbolic interpretation of which is consciously equivalent to the Hermetic Crater. Healing the sick, raising the dead, and casting out demons, all extraordinary charismata from the religious point of view, also fall under the scientific subject of alchemy, which of course embraces medicine, exorcism, and spiritual transmutation. Charbonneau-Lassay identifies an extant devotion to the "heart of God" even in ancient Egypt. It's a fascinating book.The Hermetic cosmology is the same kind of nondualism found in the Corpus Dionysiacum; chrysopoeia and theosis amount to the same concept.>>43073943Hermetic!>>43077847According to Eliphas Levi, the 22 major arcana of the Tarot correspond to the 22 letters of the Hebrew alphabet. But why is this necessarily "esoteric"? Lettrism (be it Greek, Hebrew, or Arabic), like astrology, is actually 100% exoteric from the ancient point of view.>>43082441>Not so long ago it wasn't even a requirement to be a priest in order to become a bishop or a Pope.Every bishop is a priest. The medieval view (cf. the Summa) is that the episcopacy does not constitute a distinct degree of holy orders, but a layman once invested would be a priest forever.
>>43066165Did you get the dollhouse add on?
>>43084171>Every bishop is a priest. The medieval view (cf. the Summa) is that the episcopacy does not constitute a distinct degree of holy orders, but a layman once invested would be a priest forever.plaese forgive my ignorance, you are right, the Pope did not have to be a priest>>43084314you are being mean, but indeed Playmobil of Germany (a Lutheran company) had/has all kinds of castles, chapels, and churches, which in my opinion was really cool
>>43085407>plaese forgive my ignorance, you are right, the Pope did not have to be a priestThe pope would be the bishop of Rome though, so he did. No worries though, ignorance is not a dirty word
>>43085566>Canon 332 § 1 of the 1983 Code simply states that one already a bishop (n.b.: not necessarily a cardinal) who accepts legitimate papal election becomes pope immediately. One who is not yet a bishop (and the Church has elected several non-bishops to the papacy) can accept election, but must be immediately consecrated bishop.ok, I correct myself "the man elected pope does not have to be a priest"I hope it's alright now
>>43044015Well what is it
>>43085407those relief holes in the crossbeam are just begging for some miniature icons :3
>>43085407Yes exactly right.It's a Lutheran company, so they're happily married, naturally.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGQSlvfGArM
I am a fucking master chef for loosh enteties
>>43086806sir this is a Gears of War thread, not Halo one
>>43087322this is so nice <3
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>>43088407Saint Expedite, patron saint of accelerationism, pray for us! :3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCagk9tc--Mhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vn9vmJvS5Io
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KN-a7qxhabo
The Archons harvest our loosh.
Anybody know any good books on angelic magic that are in english? I don't speak anything else. I picked one up yesterday but it's hot trash, no sigils or designs or anything about magic circle construction.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krNssqFy44s
Hello friends! How are my Christian brothers doing tonight?
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1gWN-PiIV-IQaFqFMF3fbf0Pv1UTSGhfg
>>43093050Is that caramel popcorn?
https://shereadseverything.com/appalachian-folk-magic-books/
Thoughts on the highlighted portion?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7Fvp1RHDIw
>>43093252I love the part in the Bible where Jesus brought peace instead of a sword.
>>43093629What about the parts where it says God is a warrior and explicitly instructs his nation to make war
>>43047893praying for anon, lord and christ, for him to have courage and faith in you, so that he may rest well, and have sound body and mind to carry out your will.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVrmOgREh6o
https://druidstaresback.substack.com/p/the-redemption-of-the-imagination
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oc8fx4YJEdc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yDgCZ_ZR8M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywbCwoJpnfA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1w4PFH_umK0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3HHI41CR4ohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FophPhdtmtghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBcBtRgMI4khttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2-SxDao2t4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6T3VuZjTpzwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEB9mc0JEUo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcETAoWVObE
A suggestion: You could write a description of the videos you're linking. At least then I'd know what you're posting.
https://x.com/VaticanNews/status/2111508032593269229Did Malachi Martin refer to the Cardinal Bernardin case in Windswept House in a way that gave him plausible deniability?
Vatican preparing to canonize a satanist?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vB__J1O3e7M
Musée du Hiéron à Paray-le-Monial et Sphinx de Solutré.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZFw4T-8MCg
Christian Doumergue interviewed by Mike Aldebaran about Le Hiéron du Val d'Or (and Rennes-le-Château).https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTauKt9dlsM
>>43091680The first text on angelic magic is Agrippa's Tres Libris which is published in English translation by Llewellyn. You might find it disappointing if you're expecting magic circles and the like. He does write extensively on geomancy, astral or planetary magic, numerology, etc, but angelic magic is separate from these, really it's more or less just Kabbalah and has mainly to do with self-purification.
Hey guys, I have recently had an experience where I feel as if I need to return to Christ, God and his love for all of us. I have been a retarded secular for too long and it stained my life, almost destroying it as the work ethic, and values I had were eroded by the godless people around me.I am quite content that Christianity is the truth, there is no need to convince me.The thing I'm really concerned about is talk of Vatican II and the secularisation and heresy within the Catholic faith. why was Vatican II implemented? Who are the jesuits exactly?
Catholic laity need to lean harder into the development of church doctrine, instead of constantly regurgitating Jesus saying "upon this rock" because it gives an impression than the church of the first several centuries looked like the Catholicism of today, which it didn't. Way too many Catholics are comfortable saying "this is apostolic dogma, this pope from the 1800s said so" and then have the audacity to act like protestants are the stupid ones (Protestants have their own problems don't get me wrong).
Honestly bumping for anon and myself >>43047893I need prayer for the same things as well. I struggle with anxiety. I want to get closer to Jesus, and I honestly want to get to the point where I can seek out a church.Often I wonder if I have any demons that are oppressing me or something. Idk. Prayer would much be appreciated.Also to anon >>43047893 I just want to say thank you and God bless you. Because of you opening up, I did as well. Without your post I probably wouldn’t have posted this.
>>43103840That's by design.Never met a cradle catholic who knew anything about the church before the time of their own grandparents.And even when they know some church history as a convert, it's extremely selective. Orthodox are the only religion who aren't afraid of their own history imo.
>>43106184>Orthodox are the only religion who aren't afraid of their own history imo.you mean communism and the massive collaboration between clergy and the communist party? or about how just a small proportion (compared to England, France, Germany etc.) of church property was confiscated by the left wingers?i think they are actively falsifying their history, as there is no distinction between the orthodox and their nationalist (i.e. left wing) governments
>>43106739Give my regards to your grandparents anon.
>>43107215what is that supposed to mean
>>43038696Maggie is right as rain, the centralization of the temple cult is the secret between the lines in the Hebrew bible, no one wants to admit but they dumbed it down, took out the competitors and monopolized God.please ignore all the scriptures where other places are perfectly fine for sacrifices. Ignore that prior to Josiah they didn't bother saying "don't sacrifice to Asherah, don't go to the groves" because YHWH and Asherah were husband and wife, why wouldn't you have a partner? That's too hard to deal with though, and perhaps some of the Asherah enthusiasts brought with them some of the weirder and wilder sexual procilivites from other fertility cults and we can't have that admittedly, so let's just burn it all up rather than try and reign it in... what's that, the whole of Jerusalem gets sacked and we get taken to Babylon? But i thought we just reformed, oddest thing to happen if we're doing the right thing...
>>43106184Orthos still think the first icon was painted by Luke
90% of Catholics silently agree that the Churches forbidding of contraceptives between husband and wife is wrong right?
The danger of papal infallibility isn't that a pope might use it to teach something wrong, it's that the majority of the church are midwit cultist NPCs who will defend it.
I just looked up on a whim if Japan has any Catholic cardinals and it turns out they have two. Both Francis appointees and both support LGBT
>>43102376Yeah that's not quite what I'm looking for. He has a bunch of issues, including confusing at least one fallen angel for a faithful one, and talks too much about demons for my tastes. The english translation I got my hands on was pretty crap and while he has a bunch of names in there he doesn't explain what they mean or who they are. I really need magic circle construction as well, and nothing in hebrew, it needs to be in english.
>>43109407Proof?
>>43108381Word.
Was Jesus Sent to Oppose the God of the Old Testament?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfCQY05W80g
>>43110227I was wrong sorry
>>43110195It's impossible to be a monolingual magician, voces magicae are untranslatable. Prayer and addressative magic rely on meaning and intent, but incantation and symbolism use the power of the word.
>>43103840Historical consciousness is a magic spell.
>>43112673Brother I can't learn any new languages yet. My brain isn't wired for them, they don't stick. As soon as I can start learning new languages I will but that's going to take an event that hasn't happened for me yet despite my best efforts to make it happen.
>>43037553Nice, a demon thread. Kewl
>>43110195yes, agrippa was a silly boy, but all he did was compile all the sources that he could get his hands on>>43112673indeed, reminds me of what Ussher said (Yeats' contemporaty/student)>The magical theory of language (which we all subconsciously hold) would suggest that every name captures the essence and “feel” of the object, by a sort of onomatopoeia: “In the beginning was the word.” But, of course, languages are many, and for “dog” we have also such totally different names as “chien” and “perro”. At the most, a name expresses a certain aspect of a thing – what a particular race has felt about it.>>43112979every thread is a demon thread if u'r brave enough lol
Why did the Church reject Origen. I think his vision is the closest to how I feel as a Christian
>>43113824The Church never rejected Origen, it rejected later Origenists, so it's more about his interpretation than him, no one can take his titles away from him
>It seems that the Mayoruna alphabet has under twenty phonemes; I’ve been aware for a while of the repetitiveness of their sounds, among which I hear nothing like our f, g, or r. Instead, b, p, sh, and ts are frequent and salient, and the vowels clear and elongated. The vowel/consonant alternation is quite regular, giving the language a sort of monotonous musicality. I ask the equivalents for the first words that come to my mind. “Mother” is tita, “father” papa (!), “son” mado, “brother” utsi. Shubu is “house.” Aca is “heron” and isa “porcupine.” Opa means “dog.” Abukkid means “monkey.” “Arrow” is pia. >I repeat the words, hoping to memorize them, promising myself to jot them down later. In certain cases, like pia, “arrow,” I have a spontaneous and hard-to-explain sense of the propriety of the term, of how fittingly the sounds have been chosen to represent the object. Others strike me as incredibly unexpected, the selection of their sounds irregular and mysterious. Like pucacunga, a bird Câmbio shows me fluttering under the low foliage; smallish, undistinguished except for a collar of red plumes.>Why pucacunga? But what savant will ever be able to reconstruct the process of naming things?
"My Father Witnessed Zeitoun. Here’s What He Saw."https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_x7ZjzwhKcghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sb0WyxzYus
"Lyburnum Wits End Liberation Fly"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQamoI51T6Y
"Le Château Alchimique de Fulcanelli (1839)"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaCvHRxO5-Q
Young people don't want to go to Zionists churches.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGJVgxJg6yY
>>43112944First realize that you have no taught mother tongue. The vernacular is an inherently multilingual space. It's natural to pick up whatever the people around you are speaking but artificial to measure how many languages that includes and to codify a formal grammar for each. The institutionalization of the vulgar speech is explicitly imposed at the service of the state, to manage and control its subjects. You may not think that you have a brain for "foreign languages," but what if you forget about "language" and just learn words instead? Grammar outside a fixed language like Latin or Greek is merely usage and the only rule is intelligibility.>>43113280That gets close to the heart of the matter. Tolkien held a similar view, but for him, myth and language also come into being together, which is a philologist's concession to the traditional view that our speech is originally revealed by God. So the music of words does not just reflect a racial perspective but a divine perfection.
"Hegel, Kierkegaard, and the Existentialists: Crossing the Line of Despair"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJXePyWj2BI
Rennes-le-Château with Mike Aldebaran, etc.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4eUHoF9e8Q
