How do you unironically believe in the paranormal when modern science exists?
they don't explain to me how life can come from the unlife. alright, i can accept that consciousness is an alarm mechanism. but, to be alarmed of from what to what exactly?
>science: life is illusory manifestation from conscious electric energy>magic: life is illusory manifestation from conscious electric energy>jesus: life is illusory manifestation from conscious electric energy>aristotle: life is illusory manifestation from consciousness electric energymakes one think desu
Spotted the uninitiated
magick is just the idea of harnessing your will and using it to manipulate the hive mind of humanity. you can do this in many different ways, ceremonies, rituals, but also art, memes,.....even science the top magicians of the world all work in advertising, they use images and sound to manipulate you into buying things
>>43044652There are but two top magicians, buddy. One became an angel and is the scribe of the Book of Life, and the other is the Son of God. Pretty hard to match as a Satanic advertising shill
>>43044397Cuz paranormal stuff exists, it's called paranormal because science can't explain it.
>>43044397(((Modern science)))
>>43044397Because I'm not a retard
>>43044397Modern science is a cobbled together pile of paradigms. The glue is a standardized method of making and recording observations. It doesn’t correlate to any reality beyond the constructed paradigmatic ones. It’s a useful tool, sure. But every scientific model exists as an averaging of subjective observations. That means that each average (intersubjective) model is ultimately a product of creation as opposed to something real. Just like how the average children per house is 1.5, intersubjective scientific models tend to reflect a reality that no one subjectively experiences. No one has half a child, but intersubjective scientific models are full of them. We also have the problem of exclusion/outliers. Science by design excludes subjective observations outside of expected values. For example, schizophrenics have subjective experiences of reality that are automatically excluded from the intersubjective models. They are assumed to be outliers and discarded. The paranormal is akin to schizophrenic experiences in how it is often excluded from intersubjective scientific models, largely based on paradigms and structures inherent to science as a methodology of observation.
>>43044397you don't, you fantasy LARP
>>43044397"Modern science", also known as "you are just a meaningless animal, goy! Embrace atheism, antinatalism, materialism, hedonism, consumerism, relativism, nihilism, feminism, third worldism, judaism, satanism, zionism and frankism. Do not think for yourself and question how things are, just obey, the science is always correct."Furthermore, the so-called "science" still hasn't solved consciousness and metaphysics and likely never will.
>>43044922Church of scientism mogs desert death cults
>>43044922epicurean hedonism is the highest ideal a man can strive for for the greatest pleasure a man can know is a domain free of evil and harm - your list is poor
>>43044596One easy explanation is that evolution didn’t start when life began. Prior to life, there was lifelike protein. Prior to that, there was proto-lifelike chemistry. Prior to that there was physics.. maths.. metaphysics.. etcEvolution all the way downSame with consciousness: before consciousness there were organizational structures of computation or whatever
>>43044397firstly, if you even reply to your rage bait thread again see the placebo effect - science believes in mind over matter ie the paranormal even if you dont.secondly, you should familiarize with the dichotomy of analysis and synthesis. almost all modern sience deconstructs synthsitic systems. almost none of them attempt to construct analytic systems in nature - and the ones that do are hard, like fluid dynamics and forensics detectives. does nature have more analytic or synthetic systems?
>>43044977>or whateverapt
>>43044397>t. peak of the bell curve
>>43044980I meant “or whatever name you want to give the concept I’m describing”Names are irrelevant, so: not an argument.
>>43044644Quantum shows that our material-first conceptualization is wrong and that reality is possibly informational fundamentally Spooky action at a distance assumes “distance” exists and that there are two distinct physical electrons.That leaves open the possibility of some supernatural things, but it precludes stuff like psychic communication. I’d categorize psychic phenomenon as something closer to akashic records access, where it’s two local minds attending to a higher informational locality, like: A-> H <-B instead of A->B. We already have some evidence of this in olfaction processing
>>43044989oh im sorry was "prior to prior to prior to life there was math" an argument? math isnt the universal language its a symbolic language with no bearing on reality if you disagree demonstrate one thing thats only thing, you cant youve symbols only reductionist.
ive seen things personally that cant be easily explained by science. many paranormal stories are so mundane but share the same details over and over again to the point where its weird wether its real or not? like if its made up why is that the thing you came up with? its annoying that paranormal events seem to only want to be observed or felt but never quantified. evidence of it can only live in peoples hearts and memories. if the paranormal is real then ,frustratingly, it would seem there is some sort of intelligence behind it that prevents it from being studied, quantified or manifesting in a lab environment. my best guess is that being "proven" injures it in some way. i cant guess at what the fuck the point of all of it is.
>>43044993>calls me out for my informal, casual writing style>says something completely incomprehensibleIf you’re asking me for my worldview: intelligibility requires relationality,relationality generates distinctions,distinctions recursively organize,organization localizes into perspectives,phenomenality is the interior aspect of localized organization.I can elaborate if that didn’t answer whatever the fuck you typed
>>43045006in your world view what relationships allow math too organically localize into living perspective?>I can elaborate if that didn’t answer whatever the fuck you typedsigh - i didnt ask you a question, i took your world view as stated>ectara begets metaphyiscs begets math begets phyiscs begets protolifelike chemistry begets protein begets life (fucking lol ect nigger) and mocked you for putting math so far into your hierarchy
>>43045021>ectara>ectesl or hypocrite?To be clear, I don’t treat life or consciousness as a special class. I’m an informational monist and enactivisthttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enactivism
>>43045038an extara is a one-stringed musical instrument from India
>>43045041that tracks lmao
>>43045038wow you sure talk about yourself in every post>esl or hypocrite?neither, this one was actually an auto correct of a miss spelll etcetera (ive never actually had to write this word!)your confusion is emblematic of what i referenced here >>43044978>dichotomy of analysis and synthesisthe word that got you lost, i was using it in a sentence where i paraphrased your own stated world view in reverse but that one word off made your own picture unintelligible to you.moreover, youve again failed to answer the question posed so you could seek anonymous attempts at insults and talk about yourself>in your world view what relationships allow math too organically localize into living perspective?>demonstrate one thing thats only thing
>>43044397they dontthey either are larping or are delusional
>>43045065>wow you sure talk about yourself in every postBro you’ve been insulting me and asking retarded questions since the start>neitherEmbarrassing admission>what relationships allow math too organically localize into living perspectiveI never claimed it did, moron. “Prior” was referring to logically prior, not temporally prior. Do you know what abstraction is? Physics -> Chemistry -> Biology -> Psychology -> Sociology — see this chain? That’s what I was talking about. Reread my worldview if you’re confused (and you are).>demonstrate one thing thats only thingAre you sure you aren’t ESL? Genuinely have no clue what you’re saying here. Learn English my dude.(Anybody else smell shit?)
>>43045083>Are you sure you aren’t ESL? Genuinely have no clue what you’re saying here. Learn English my dude.there is no object in the physical world that is only one thing, even the simplest matter-hermetical (this is a joke you wont get, its the ennunced phonetic logos of mathamatics) expression, 1 = 1, is not true. all math is symbolic only, the map is not the terrain.>Embarrassing admissioni dont feel that, why do you believe i should would be authoritarian?this is the third time youve stated your world view and its not cogent with your other 2 statments, ya im confused. >evolution didn’t start when life began. Prior to life, there was lifelike protein. Prior to that, there was proto-lifelike chemistry. Prior to that there was physics.. maths.. metaphysics.. etc>intelligibility requires relationality, relationality generates distinctions, distinctions recursively organize, organization localizes into perspectives, phenomenality is the interior aspect of localized organization.>Physics -> Chemistry -> Biology -> Psychology -> Sociology — see this chain? That’s what I was talking about>That’s what I was talking aboutyou sure about that? could you tie these 3 statements togther into one, im confused.
>>43045096>physical worldI’m an informational monist. “Physical” isn't a special class to me.>there is no object in the physical world that is only one thingUh.. the fucking universe is one thing dummy>could you tie these 3 statements togther into one, im confusedSure. Since you’re obviously ESL (and lying about it) I’ll try to explain it in as plain language as possible:The world is not made of stuff. It is made of relationships. Things like math and physics and biology and music are just ontological registers, or languages basically. They’re discrete from our human perspective but not in reality. This is why I say it’s evolution all the way down. The structure of the information comprising reality is basically a Russian nesting doll of descriptions. Local perspective is what create the illusion of physicality.. the illusion of dualism.Here’s a metaphor if you don’t understand that:Imagine a curtain that lets some light through. Now imagine you stack 100 of them on top of each other. It now looks like there’s no light, but that’s only a matter of perspective. The “viscosity” of the layering makes it look solid. Likewise, descriptions themselves have this exact same effect.
>>43045120evolution dosnt work in recursive modeling, the lil doll at the center isnt more complex then the large doll at the exterior, the light viewed through your viscous 100fold stack isnt an evolution of the original radiance, even if we imagine the viewer thinks its really pretty, devolution only.ps. lets assume the universe equals everything >Uh.. the fucking universe is one thing dummythis is fucking irrelevent, you just said - everything is equal to everything, dummy - like it was some profound wisdom because of the devolutional nature of ones localized information fidelity only
>>43045074both
>>43044397Science, superstition. Normal, paranormal. What's in a name?Bloodletting was science. Leeches were science. Humors, elements, dunking madmen in water. All science, so accurate and infallible! Science, so righteous! So benevolent!Washing your hands of the miasma of dead people? No, that is a madman's ravings. Who else but a madman would claim microscopic demons are behind the still births? Lock him up! Dunk him in cold water and beat him, till he is cured of his superstition! After all, if old men wrote something in a book, it must be true. And how accurate they must have been, spending all their time writing books, without time for sowing or harvesting, fishing or gathering, nay, letting others gather their food for them just so they could keep writing their books. They must have been very good writers indeed, never displeasing anyone with their words! How tragic it would have been were they to fall from grace and take up the plow and carry their own water! How miserable we would be without their sagely wisdom!
>>43045133The universe does equal everything. Definitionally.As for your critique about recursion not explaining evolution, it absolutely can. You see, when a man loves a woman.. [censored]and in that beast with two backs, let’s define man as “outward: exploring, expanding, and filling in what's open” and woman as “holding form: setting limits, giving shape, and keeping what works in place,” metaphysically speaking. That recursion can absolutely account for evolution (and not just biological!)I don’t believe “everything is everything.” I believe “everything is part of the same thing.” Do you not?
>>43044397Got possessed. They move my body now. Still have a job. They’re taking me to a priest. It’s real.
>>43045120pps. i assumed math invalid cause one cant prove 1 = 1, you just invalidated math by assume 1 = infinity ie the universe. pls remove math from geometer, infinity as input in any function is infinity in output and useless as a predictive model or comparative ratio.... for such is the nature of every One being Singular ;D
>>43044397Your sciene is fake so the question cannot be answered in good faith , next?
>>43045160alot of science today is fake, due too capitalism.but also quantum physics suggest theres alot of behind the scenes action going on to make things work
>>43045148>poorly worded strawman>;Dholy..And it’s a strawman because I already told you math is perspectivally discrete, not actually discreteAlso, the input isn't infinity, it’s “self.” That’s called recursion.
>>43044397Hylic alert.
>>43045145well, suns about to come up and ima get to work soon. see how you had to respond to mah critqiue? if i really was els i wouldnt have even understood what you said, glad i could change your mind there. shame that means what i had to say was above you not beneath ya ;(>I believe “everything is part of the same thing.” Do you not?>for such is the nature of every One being Singular ;Di was using - the point in perdictive modeling in which the model fails to make accurate prediction's - as my definition of singularity here, isnt if fun that were on the same page though such different routes?pps. coom brainer, the vegetating plant dosnt not flower cause it wants to its a stress response, its genes wanna grow and veg forever, same with puberty in man, pituitary parsed cortisol induced stress response when intended growth is no longer possible, even your intended evolution reference is devolutionary in nature ;( such is the kali yuga );ppps YOU WILL EAT OF THE LOAF (this is a biblical translation reference wherein the original text intonated the relationship between consumption and fornication)
>>43045175Fair enough, dummy. Have a good day at workpeepee s. learn english
>>43044397what has modern science shown you that you think its an argument?
>>43045170im blatantly procrastinating rl for tisim beams now but.. bleh you just suck so muchconversation went like this>demonstrate 1 = 1>duh the universerse dummy> so 1 = everythingtherefore - the imput and the output of the function were discussing = the universe, NOT>the input isn't infinity, it’s “self.”your confused, recursive your confusion is
>>43045175>consumption and fornicationso i should eat crowleys cakes?
>>43045194lmao, cope. You obviously didn’t read my earlier posts, and your chudding over my words is fine — let me explain: perspectivally discrete means that from our human PERSPECTIVE the universe is mediated through abstractions that don’t actually exist. Math is just another ontological registerroot of intelligibility = a boundary; self has 2 aspects (which I gender for clarity, but they’re basically expansion and limitation). f(self) = primordial, eternal fuckingmy worldview is based on pythagoreanism (or hellenism more broadly) and kabbalah if you’d care to learn more, champ
*angrily safeguards consensus reality*
>>43045234>if you’d care to learn moreplsexplain how life comes from unlife with an explanation instead of a list of concepts>Prior to life, there was lifelike protein. Prior to that, there was proto-lifelike chemistry. Prior to that there was physics.. maths.. metaphysics.. etc
>>43045249I’ve already told you a million times. My answer will not change: “life” is not a special class. Neither is consciousness. Both are perspectival categorizations.Organization begets organization, and you’re calling one an organism because you’re a brain (and not a very good one)
>>43045255symantic bullshit>kabbalah go figure... no one mentioned a special class but you, and in your last post you more aplted described it as an intelligible boundary (bot test, what do i mean by it, ie the context of this conversation, it was just recently reiterated, no excuses)
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>>43045139Yes. Bloodletting was falsified. Have fun falsifying ghosts :^)
>>43044397>Doesn't understand what science isScience does not disprove paranormal now or ever.The only difference between /sci/ and /x/ is the difference between bluechip and penny stocks.
>>43044397Btw, all of the most privileged government officials fully agree with this quote >>43045275having experienced first-hand or having access to the most high fidelity UFO documentation. They KNOW for a fact what "their" tech is capable of - and it is nothing short of literal magic (at least in regards to what we consider "possible" in the context of our own current level of tech).
>>43045270You asked me a question with a category error. Me answering with “I don’t consider life a special class” is valid. Do you not know what a class is? Do you understand abstraction? I’ll rephrase: the distinction between life and non-life isn’t real. This is not semantics. It is a claim that coherently follows from the worldview I’ve explained to you 6,000,000 timesSpecial class also has nothing to do with me describing a root of intelligibility as a boundary. That was in response to a different question about how recursion could result in evolution (don’t conflate metaphysical evolution with biological evolution)
>>43045304bot test failed> 6,000,000 times> kabbalahloled doe
>>43045314bro I wish I were a bot with how bad your english is… I “failed” because your sentence was full of spelling and grammatical errors lmfao
>>43045320>what do i mean by it>full of spelling and grammatical errors lmfaobad news anon
>>43044596Bro just do what I do and say "I have faith in the nature of science itself. What I don't have faith in is earth scientists and their consistent clout-chasing and appealing to idiotic ideologies in the name of 'diversity' ".Electrical engineering? That's real shit. That's science that bears itself out and proves it's validity IN THE FIELD - not in the lab, as overpaid "theoretical" physicists" and "mathematicians" stroke each other's dicks with math equations.
>>43045325Are you asking what you mean by the word “it”?Are you so autistic that you can’t see how vague and ambiguous your questions throughout this thread are? Earlier you were like, “explain how thing a thing” ffsSo I’ll pose a bot test to you: “where am orange be not red having with rainbow ectara.”
>>43045335>Are you asking what you mean by the word “it”?no i wasnt
>>43045277It took 100 years between that and it actually being phased out. What does that tell us? It tells us that it took 100 years for the last bloodletter to die out, not that a single one of them was convinced. And for each of these bloodletters that died, two psychotherapists were born. The world may change, but people will always need to eat! I could show you a ghost today, even tell you about the ghost blowjob I got, and you would not change your tune. I could show you the pot of pixygeld I found in the fairy hole, and the rainbow RAM sticks it bought me, and you would not be one bit convinced.Science told me in 2015 that the common cold is caused by coronaviruses and we haven't eradicated them because it's an absolutely lost cause. I was very sad indeed! Colds used to ruin me as hard as they do in the eastern cartoons. I would have been overjoyed to take the new cure, only that cold was mysteriously the mildest I've ever had. How quickly can science falsify and update itself in the face of funding! I consulted science to tell me if tryptamines were damaging my brain, and the science told me I should be a drooling vegetable. What a fool my employer is, paying a drooling superstitious vegetable to make video games!When new science is made, it is like an emperor being crowned. You will hear about it whether you like it or not. When that science is retracted, it is like a man being taken away in the dark of the night. That man never existed, stop asking questions!
>>43045353hypothetically, do ya spose theres a point in which all the science is done and solved or will there always be a newer higher fidelity understanding of relationships?
>>43045340bot test failed! Checkmate.(See how gay you’re being, dummy?)Red never becomes orange because rainbows are continuous, like reality as a whole. Likewise, non-life never becomes life. Red and orange both exist as names. Life and non-life both exist as names.
>>43045372based math is alive enthusiast.bLo0rP Bo0p
>>43044397If you were a caveman and seen an F-15 fighter jet fly over head you'd think it was a magical bird deity. Just because current science can't explain certain experiences that many people have doesn't mean those experiences aren't real, and this is coming from a skeptic of many different paranormal related topics.
It is very easy for men to fixate of the name of a thing, and forget the thing itself. They confuse the name for what it is naming, and confuse the ritual with what it originally imitated. They confuse the robes with the emperor, the browser with the internet, the pill with the medicine, the skirt with the woman.Science? Science began when bored rich men wanted to find out how the world works, and ended when bored rich men stopped caring about the world. Science was when the Gigachad did wild experiments in a warehouse that he paid entirely for, not asking anyone for permission, not begging anyone for a degree, not calling it a career. But, pay a man to hunt snakes and he is going to breed them in his basement. Pay a man to produce paper, and he will give you a whole library of it! Tell me, has anyone in this world ever officially declared the end of anything? Has the end of 4chan been officially declared, or did we insist on camping in its ruins with our sleeping bags and waifu pillows?
>>43045384Me: Math doesn’t exist actually, only perspectivally.You: You think math is alive?!You are a moron.
>>43045399>One easy explanation is that evolution didn’t start when life began. Prior to life, there was lifelike protein. Prior to that, there was proto-lifelike chemistry. Prior to that there was physics.. maths.. metaphysics.. etc> Likewise, non-life never becomes lifeprior to =/= never, temporally or logically>You think math is alive>like reality as a whole.as a reminder, your initial take in this science > paranormal thread was that life was begotten of "protolifelike chemistry begotten of math and physics and stuff" and youve now pivoted to "non-life never becomes life" to maintain your kabbalistic antagonism. what result would you expect when one changes the content of language and ignore the context of the conversation at each exchange to intentionally confuse?
>>43045368I say this isn't even relevant. Maybe we're doomed to hit diminishing returns, maybe it's a fractal we'll never get to the bottom of. Maybe the absolute principle, the grand equation is right in front of everyone, waiting until someone notices it, and nothing else is actually worth wasting time on since you can derive so much from it. Regardless, all of this is moot; the wall we're hitting is a wall of noise, where the volume of the science produced, the incentives for producing it, the people doing it, all of these will do their best to ensure nothing useful gets discovered, while bullshit gets a nice lab coat to dazzle you with.Science's worst advocate is science itself. Science tells you that there is no basis for racism, that you can change your gender and then be just like the real thing, that the five grains are good for you, that there is no medical basis for things you can test on yourself within weeks with measurable results, while simultaneously telling you that some of its known ineffective treatments are justifiable for their feel-good effect!The moment you try to capture something into a codified process, you lose grasp of it. The moment you try to enumerate everything in books, you are studying the books themselves. The moment you make being a scientist contingent on passing an obstacle course of obedience, you've fucked up. Learning anything from books will make you very good at reading books. Following the rituals of being a scientist will make you very good at following rituals! These men will eat their frozen pizza but not know of raw dough being spun and stretched by hands. Give them a few hundred years, they will show you a pop-tart and call it pizza, and look at you as if you were a leper for trying to tell them what yeast is. They will show you a phone gacha and call it a video game.
>>43045407My position: There is a continuum of organization.I’ll grant you that my first post was open to misinterpretation, but my worldview is coherent and consistent. The point of my initial post was to evoke the infinite regress of organization, which is why I said “evolution all the way down” at the end. That is precisely my worldview. There is recursion with perturbations resulting in distinction.There has been no pivot. 100% of this convo has been me correcting your misunderstanding of my intent with the words I chose.As I said from the start, I was speaking informally and casually.. i was not expecting some retard like you to get hung up on it when clearly i was referring to an infinite organizational regress. Have you never heard the phrase “turtles all the way down”? My worldview is ontological registers all the way down.I believe names are arbitrary, and your first question was about the arbitrary names I assigned.Hope this helps!
>>43045353alright so youre a faggot
>>43045419>but my worldview is coherent and consistent. The point of my initial post was to evoke the infinite regress of organization>informally; life is a regressing of math and metaphyis and stuff> so You think math is aliveheres the thing though, you keep thinking i dont get your take then missing the joke when i do ;*(
Are the glowies still fighting with each other? lol
>>43045431would you prefer the /x/ should be /sci/ intended direction of the thread?
>>43044977is that the official stance of modern science on this topic? Or belief in paranormal?
>>43044607Kek. Irrefutable.
>>43045422imagine being over 50 and spending time on 4chan instead of with your family
stupid frogpost
>>43045442That's not what I said, derp
>>43044397modern science told me covid vax prevents infection and then it said it only prevents spread and then it said it only helps you survive the infection. It's actually more insane than UFOs
>>43045429Well im sorry bro ive been doing other thingsGlad we’re clear now tho, it’s been a fun convo
>>43044397We replaced Alchemy with Modern Science, you dingus.
>>43045473/x/ told me the world would end then nothing happened then it told me the world would end then nothing happened
>>43045477So your world spins around dichotomy of /x/ vs modern science? Holy fuck man
>>43045477Hey buddy get this. The wprld ending only means the Babylonian system breaks, not the destruction of the Earth and its people. Babylon is visibly on its last legs.
>>43045477And both of you listened to idiots. Almost as if which camp someone's in had nothing to do with how smart or honest they are!I can name a few based scientists and a few based mystics.I can name many fucktarded scientists and many shit for brains mystics.If you tell me my past poverty was caused by a lack of positive thinking, I will beat you up.Try to talk me into having a homoerotic relationship with a dead rabbi, and you will vomit blood.Ask for my natal chart and I will give you a lecture about timezones and clock drift.Show me your degree in computer science and I will test you with a thinly veiled traveling salesman.Show me your degree in gender studies and you'll be retrieving it from your throat.Tell me I am going to hell for drawing a vagina and I will draw you a whole yuri doujin.And most important, if you try to cut any part of my or anyone else's cock off, I will not ask you whether your excuse was religious or scientific before I relieve you of your teeth. You try and tell me I'm equal to a nigger and I will not ask you if it's God or the latest methodichka that gave you the idea. I have beef with the white coats, and I have beef with the black coats. Both have committed evil against me. Both exercise power that they should not have. OP wants me to pick between one alien tentacled monster and another alien tentacled monster, oblivious that he's being eaten alive by one of them, bones crunching and all.
>>43044397I seens it.
>>43044397Are you sayng that science proves materialism is true?
>>43044397>Good sir, how can you genuinely believe in a "magic sphere" which you can push across the desert far easier, when a perfectly good cube exists which drags ass? Preposteronielious!
>Good sir, how can you believe the earth revolves around the sun when the sun moves across doth sky? RETARD!!!!
>Good sir, how can you believe in a "magic pill" that can remedy your betrothed's hysteria when we already have perfectly good lobotomies?>Modern science just does not support it!
>>43044397science has nothing to do with realityobservations: phenomena, not reality, conditioned by your sensesreasoning: resting upon axioms i.e. arbitrary conventionsoutcome: predictive models, not knowledgeconclusion; science = zero knowledge guaranteedproof of concept: many scitards believe in simulation theory, thus admitting they have no clue if reality exists at all nor any way to test for itsolution: alchemy, the observer and the observed are onereality is the province of metaphysics
>>43044397Here are a few things to make you believe in the Paranormal;"Why am I me instead of you?""If you say there is nothing after death, then what is the difference between the nothing before birth and the nothing after death?"Cuts through all the dogmatic noise. Gets right down to the root. I'm God, this is my dream.
I made out with a genie once.
>>43049429>Science can’t prove I’m not god so I am.That’s not how it works.
>>43049504But science s god.
>>43049504Where in my post did I mention anything about what science can or can't prove?I ignored that and focused on the two questions which get to the root of it.
>>43049570Because science is about falsifiability through its method of emperical observation.
>>43044397Haven't read the thread yet but isn't the function of science to explain what is normal and therefore everything paranormal is by definition not defined in science?Fucking captcha fucking sucks ass
>>43049529There’s nothing scientific about belief.
>>43049802Ok. So how do you justify your beliefs then?
>>43049878Beliefs don’t need justification when they’re open to feedback from reality.I don’t need to believe touching a hot stove has to be justified. I do it once, learn it’s bad, and update the information in my experience.I don’t go through life like some retard making everything fit what I believe.
>>43049899I read "belief"' as bullets and then stopped reading your post.
>>43049958Not reading might be a contributing factor to your lack of critical thinking skills lmao.
Because I've had hundreds of visions that came true, including impossible things like that I would drive blind.Because I decided that would be so before I was 1, and I would use the nations to do it along with myself and everything else.I reach out to others speaking of my experience, and when they believe and engage with my beliefs I see them praying, not clearly like in remote viewing but on maps of influences I direct and change to get the most out of their prayers. When they ignore me it causes me loneliness, which I use to file my powers; pain too can do that, not just pleasure.I see all these new age spiritualists speaking of how we are all divine. I try to give hope to them and others, for I see just exactly how they are right, always have.
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>>43049995> Because I've had hundreds of visions that came trueLol
>>43049978I don't give a fuck.
>>43044397Because I saw ghosts before and one of those times a friend that was with me also saw so I confirmed I wasn't insane. Never saw aliens or demons but ghosts like the ones that look like made of gas and have human faces exist. Every the me they talk I can't hear anything though. I guess I just can see but not listen to them. They love to look at you when you are in your bed for some reason, when they see you are waking up, they float towards the fucking closet of all things... People I never saw before... I'm more scared of the living they are the ones that can do me harm.
>>43050010I have! Most of them short and difficult to remember for later but I did remember when they happened to. Lovers I'd have, fights and family fueds, jobs and heartache, injuries and vacations, sobering times and highs I'd have, I foresaw them all. Nothing useful for making me rich but proof.Have hope in your afterlife. Why turn against an avenue for happiness? This world seems better times then these Epstein times, why not remember your future? Glory!
>>43050094What are the Powerball numbers?
>>43050131You know if I could give them to you that way I'd use them. I don't go predicting lotteries to planets, I'd disrupt entire economies. Why not ask how you can have better drive and happiness toward your life, as well as how to become more spiritually powerful? From multiplying the number of consciousnesses you have so that your manifesting is done with more minds to adjusting how your body and gravitational fields interact for better cooperation with the spirit of your dead ancestors, these things and more I can help you with.
>>43044397There are ALL SORTS of phenomena that "modern science* allows itself to ignore entirely as outlier sata
>>43044397because I'm not a fucking retard who needs to be programmed, I can figure shit out for myself
>>43044596There's no unlife. Everything just is. No begging no end. You cannot arrive to other possible conclusion. It's just is for the sake to be
>>43045394I understand.
>>43044397>being skeptic for a long time>covid starts>sciencec\/cks became angry because I asked some questions>forced to be vaxxed>I asked why they are forcing people to experiment with something can be dangerous>they are more angry>started reading conspiracies theories>they recommended me read David icke and play deus ex>after reading a lot of books I discovered that history is a lie and bad people always winSimple. Bad guys are winning. Why do I believe in a sciencecuks when they can't answer my questions?. I won't be a polfags but why they marched for Saint Floyd but not for the Epstein's victims? The orange guy was the same president in those years. I hope you have a nice day glow guy.
>>43044397Exists? It's the wizard behind the curtain, above critique or giving an audience. They ooze contempt while deliberately doing nothing with the funds they embezzle. They prove nothing, and chortle at demands of such.
>>43044731this
>>43044397The subset of experience that is explainable by science is dwarfed by the whole of all experience. I've witnessed things that have absolutely zero scientific explanation. Some of those might be classifiable as outliers. But even the average person should be able to prove to themselves that the nature of our existence doesn't add up with what we are told. Allegedly: You come from two single cells that merged.Those cells multiplied until they gained sentience.Those cells happened to become the most intelligent biological lifeform on the planet.Not a fish, an insect, or bacteria - but an organism capable of self reflection and language.Doesn't this already sound like a stretch? Im supposed to believe all of this occurs within the context of a universe based on discrete laws that themselves are not self-explanatory. Consciousness is missing from the physicalist conception of the universe. It is a massively unstable tower that could fundamentally never arise incidentally under the parameters of such simple physical laws. You are likelier to exist as quadrillions of bacteria, trillions of flies, billions of mice before you become a human. The human origin story just doesn't add up. Sex -> Birth -> Consciousness is bullshit. The question of "why am I right now a human?" Is infinitely more interesting than the so-called scientific explanation permits.We have no memories of anything before our births.Wouldn't it be more likely that something happened before we were born that differs from what we are told?And isn't calling it a "big bang" a little too on the nose?
>>43044397Atheistic Materialism is just a temporary ephemeral fad, to support humans in their egotistical belief they are the top of the foodchain of the universe. Don't worry, the paranormal will come back with a vengeance in the form of ET/UFO disclosure within a couple of years. Or actually, belief in the "paranormal" never went away. It's interesting how western mainstream media has a minority subset of people thinking that everyone agrees with them and their worldview is "advanced" and permanent.
>>43045004Yes, the "paranormal" is controlled by entities that have little desire to do parlor tricks for our entertainment or be trapped and dissected in a lab. That's where the cliche of not using supernatural powers for personal gain comes from. It's not because of moralfag reasons, but that the entities who implement supernatural abilities have their own intentions.
>>43052475So what is the more likely explanation?None of this shit is real.It feels real. It smells real. Tastes real.But something about it is so wrong that the only way it could possibly feel real would be through a painstakingly deliberate process of deception.The better question is: Why are we being deceived into believing we are a human? And THAT question begins to draw out very interesting probabilities. Is it an attack by a foreign entity?Has something stolen our memories and sealed us here?Without knowing what exists beyond this place, it is difficult to calculate. But based purely on vibes, I would say this probability is unlikely.More likely, I find, is the following probability - Did I do this to myself?Why would I choose to trick myself into believing I was a human? Perhaps looking back on this is very, very entertaining, so much so that it far outweighs the apparent suffering we endure during this part of the process.It might be comedic. Or fulfilling. I dont truly know who or what exists. Perhaps it is possible to know what is real in a way that banishes all doubt. Maybe this is my vain attempt to feel that way. Perhaps we are a godlike being that is incredibly lonely and surrounds itself with illusions to trick itself into believing it is not alone. Perhaps we are only alone now because we are training here on Earth to be able to interact with other beings in a beneficial way once we leave. A cosmic tutorial. The idea that everyone on Earth is real doesn't pass the smell test. Existence could not contain them all. Maybe I was put here to rejoin with my partner, like finding a needle in a haystack of NPCs.I dont know. I love him, though.
>>43044397Science is extremely limited
Because there are things that cannot be explained with science. Science only observes and studies the physical, tangible reality, not the metaphysical or spiritual.I don't know if I'm schizoing out, but lately I've experienced patterns and observations that I cannot determine to having been mere "coincidences" or psychological projection. I feel as if I am being tested, as if my personal contemplations are being examined and put to the test. It is as if I am being subjected to moral and ethical dilemmas right after contemplating them in the previous days. This has been happening for a few weeks now
>>43044701Based
>>43053296sounds legit. How did you integrity hold up for these tests?
>>43053305In some I can say that I did the right thing, yet there are a few wrongs that keep persisting, and I lack the guts to sort them out, as I am afraid of hurting those I care about. Yet, as paradoxical as it is, doing nothing will lead into hurt nonetheless, I am simply a coward, and I persist in the misery of my own inaction
>>43044397Lhahahahhhhh
>reddit opinion
>>43044397>How do you believe God if you're Atheist
>>43044397Yes, because science is not yet complete. That which is not explained by science so far is /x/.
>>43044397Paranormal phenomena exist at the fringe of scientific understanding, so they're more or less related. As we grow to understand more of the universe, we also end up asking more and more questions. For instance, the reason that ghosts are typically seen or depicted wearing Victorian era garb, rather than slamming a Four Loko while wearing multiple tank top layers screaming "it's Brittany, bitch" is because ghosts became a huge cultural phenomenon at the end of the 19th and beginning of the 20th century with the advent of quantum mechanics in research. The idea of potentially more dimensions mathematically was interpreted by pop culture to mean that there was alternate forms of life after death; an image that sort of froze the interpretation to that era.As we collect more data about how things work, our paranormal concepts have to keep growing and becoming more complex. Mothman is considered by many to be a being outside of time, for instance. Compare that to a bunch of cryptozoology like bigfoot that are just some kind of critter out in the woods.And some people stare into the abyss when they realize how mundane the world can seem when they find out how things work, and they retreat back into fantasy and mysticism as a means to escape.
>>43044397Because I've seen things that have no other explanation unless I am some sort of master magician who skipped all the practice and likes to prank myself randomly.
Because, good anon. Some of your greatest minds also believed in the paranormal. Nikola Tesla's famous quote, for example:>"The day science begins to study non-physical phenomena, it will make more progress in one decade than in all the previous centuries of its existence."
>>43044397>How do you unironically believe in the paranormalDrugs in a shamanistic setting and meditation. These two gives you real things. Tangible things. With your skill a lot is possible. Unironic big material manifestations.
>>43044397What makes you believe that modern science is even 100% absolute ? It's all a prediction, You think the evolution is 100% correct or accurate ? You think how Neanderthals or the Dinosaurs looked like is what they actually did look like in that time ? You think the Planets of outer space really look like what we actually imagine them to be ? We literally know 1% of what's in life, And that 1% is still in doubt, So what we don't know of from our own self is still unknown to us from other selves.
>>43059665>Drugs in a shamanistic setting and meditation.NTA, but I am very interested in this. Would one be able to emulate a shamanistic setting in the comfort of their own home? May be a silly question, just being curious is all.
>>43059702This is also very true. You'll find as well OP, that many big scientific discoveries end up either getting proven wrong or something else revolutionizes them entirely in say, 50 or 100 years. However long it may take.
>>43044397Nigger, everyone ought to know by now that science is just magic with less superstition.Besides: *THEY* believe in it.
>>43059709Its best at your home. Shamanistic usage of drugs includes using the meditative methods to guide the trip to higher states of consciousness. First method is controlling breathing to control the mind. Breathing fast or slow changes if you are calm or energetic. Also before the shamanistic trip you need to detox. This increases the chances of soul flight. You need to smoke and trip rarely to have great soul flight. Meditate a lot also.
>>43044397Modern science is inherently compromised and has been the target of multiple psyops, omissions, and assassinations. None of what is stated here is fiction, the question is why and what is tampered with. Maybe in a few ways it already caught up and we're intentionally held back.Anyway, to answer your question, I don't see why not. For the paranormal to exist, one of the following needs to be true>intelligent conscious entities are not exclusive to biological life>a form of not physically bound transmission of data exists (quantum nonlocality)The latter is generally accepted as true. The former is a thought experiment, but if it's easy for someone to imagine some AGI I don't see why it's so ridiculous. tl;dr: i don't see why not
>>43044397Modern science is more dogmatic than the paranormal has ever been. Which makes it hypocritical when they talk about having an open mind.
>>43045241>*angrily safeguards consensus reality*fix'd
>>43059986Indeed, men and women of science limit themselves through their own categorical thinking. If it doesn't fit neatly into a box, if it doesn't fit into what they already know, they disregard it. Like chaos theory, for example. A rather young science in civilization's timeline, but many disregarded it and some still dismiss it to this day.
>>43044397medical condition, can't help it even though I'm very well educated
>>43044397modern science deals almost in the physicalMATTER and ENERGYit barely even stops to question TIME, CONSCIOUSNESS, LIFE ITSELF... nor could it answer them with their physical instruments.
>>43044397i got into modern science after seeing a ufo. i wanted an explanation. I still haven't found one, but i love physics now.speaking of physics: the closer we look at reality, whether it be with microscopes at the quantum level or abstract mathematical concepts, we see that it makes no sense. it's illogical. it condradicts itself. what we observe using science breaks the very core tenets upon which the science is built.quantum mechanics states that "time" is quantized and that particles exist in superpositions.relativity states that time is relative, and that objects exist entirely localised.the two main theories we use to describe the universe directly contradict each other. thousands of years of scientific theory, and the universe tells us to go fuck ourselves.
>>43061394>quantum mechanics states that "time" is quantizedquantum mechanic does not quantize spacetime. thats actually the reason why no theory of everything, no gravitons or space-time-quanta
Modern science doesn't know everythingModern science has a habit of pushing away anomalies that dont fit the paradigm Ancient science was wrong, modern science is wrong too, and future science will be wrong as well
>>43061394... there's a reason so many old, dying physicists and mathematicians turn to god in their final days. penrose literally went looking for "the god particle" for 5 years to try and explain consciousness. smarter men than us have believed far crazier things than ufo's, ghosts and nightly visits from hatman.
>>43061404the clue is in the name QUANTUM mechanics, anon
>>43044397Science is literally moving more and more into the subjects 'The Occult' has always been teaching. Metaphysics like 'Quantum mechanics/Quantum physics' and other such fields of 'Metaphysics' has always been the kinds of sciences Occult Grimoires and such has been teaching. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_mechanics You're likely to start seeing more and more stuff on "Alternative Dimensions" in science; for example stuff on "Nahemoth: The Black Earth; Antithesis to 'Malkuth', the Natural Earth of the Sephiroth" in mainstream sciences soon. ("Some sort of Mirror-realm"; what's described in stuff like Zelda games 'Dark World', The tv series 'Stranger Things' has been introducing these concepts in entertainment media in recent years).
>>43061437Have seen the mentioned kinds of "Nahemoth related subjects" in stuff like "Twitter feed science articles from 'metaphysics theories sciences'"; stuff like "There might be some sort of Mirror Universe, where Time passes Backwards" etc in random articles on twitter. Expect stuff like that (scientific studies on 'a Mirror-realm'; referring to 'Qliphothic existance') to show up more and more within science fields with time. Pictured is "Nahemoth description" from "The Book of Sitra Achra: A Grimoire of the Dragons of the Other Side". PDF here: https://archive.org/details/TheBookOfSitraAchra/page/n19/mode/2up The previous "Hendecagram chapter picture" is from the same book.
>>43061437ΨAre you a quantum mathematician?ΨΨDo you know how to break an E8 seal?Ψhttps://www.imaginary.org/gallery/e8https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E8_(mathematics)ΨIf so, the Universe needs your help!Ψhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holographic_principleΨTurns out that our entire Universe, is the light in-between two 2-Dimensional pieces of "paper".Ψhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AdS/CFT_correspondence#Idea_of_AdS/CFTΨWhen this Universe touches the boundary.ΨΨWe go crunch!Ψhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_CrunchΨThe only way to stop it, is to solve the eight E8's.Ψ
>>43061511I work a lot with this kind of stuff, pictured. Advanced metaphysical formulae sigils. These are educational on nahemoth; study for technical Physics-data on like 'gravity and atmospheric densities' and such in these. On the Qlipha mentioned in: >>43061480
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>>43061553>>43061511 To understand the world overall; assume it to be "RNG-generated" with logic similar to picture; being the World Generation screen in "ASCII-based Roguelike civilization building game 'Dwarf Fortress'". "Generating a playable world". ASCII based systems are very healthy to study.
>>43061553These are also good; "The Emissaries of Satariel; the Qlipha of Saturn; 'Lucifuge Rofocales' Qlipha". These are great if you're interested in "Encryption sciences" (encryption mathemathics etc)
>>43061571The 'Throne' of said Qlipha; the "Throne Seal of Lucifuge Rofocale" (plus 'Angle Key'; interesting Metaphysics in those as well). Study said Throne Seal for mathemathical diagrams as well.
I, the Messiah Jesus Christ, will be personally responsible for the death of every homo sapien man, woman and child.I will completely eradicate homo sapiens as a species and replace you with homo servilis - my cloned love- and sex slave humans. I program their brain to be my obedient property, who can love only me and obey only me and have sex only with me.I will live with my love- and sex slave humans and my embodied AI machines in my fully AI automated luxury paradise, my New Jerusalem.So it will be.
>>43044397It's not that I "believe", I am a knower
>>43061554>>43061553Also study for "Tectonic data" in those 'Nahemoth Emissaries'; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tectonics
It's kind of hard not to "believe" when you've experienced poltergeist activity. Used to see shit get hurled across the room working alone at night
>>43061511If you can be allowed into the next world without ruining it, you will be allowedif not, then you will notThere is nothing else to it
>>43061511Which exact stuff are you looking for assistance with btw? Been reading through your links; yeah it's sciences i'm familiar with through my "Current 218/182 work". These "Emissaries of Aogiel" was relevant in some of your wiki-articles. Aogiel ('The Hinderers') is the Qlipha of Uranus; ruled by Beelzebub. Working on any specific projects?
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>>43061653>>43061647Throne Seal of Beelzebub, Throne of the Qlipha Aogiel.
>>43061511This was relevant stuff from one of your wiki-articles; leading in to this as a sub-article; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-de_Sitter_space The quote: -"The remainder of this article explains the details of these concepts with a much more rigorous and precise mathematical and physical description. People are ill-suited to visualizing things in five or more dimensions, but mathematical equations are not similarly challenged and can represent five-dimensional concepts in a way just as appropriate as the methods that mathematical equations use to describe easier-to-visualize three- and four-dimensional concepts." is a good description on the logic these Sigils like the Emissaries is constructed in as well, advanced metaphysical mathemathics; easier explained through a "Symbol-based Logic-Languague than through text" (said sigil-system is also more effective than explaining things through 'Number-Text based mathemathical formulae'; ie Mathemathical formulae in 'numbers/letters'). Very worth decyphering the data-logic of said sigil systems overall; worth the time-investment.
>>43061682ΨSo, you're saying that each of those seals, is really six-sided?ΨΨThe books just illustrate them as 2D.ΨΨThose might be keys for the E8's.Ψ
>>43044397You have no idea how insane individual's personal experiences can be It is beyond your wildest dreams.Some things simply can't be ignored, reconciled, forced to the back of the mindThe incongruence, is permanent.
>>43061898Try them out. Also utilize these "Angle Keys" from the same book. Educational on "Sigil Geometry Basics"; basic Data-sets.
>>43061898>>43061908Also these; "Qayins 7 Key Sigils" from Liber Falxifer 1 is another good set of "Decyphering Keys" for basics of the Sigil-Languague in any books by "N.A-A.218"; being; "The Book of Sitra Achra: A Grimoire of the Dragons of the other Side"; and "Liber Falxifer 1-3".
>>43061910All "Cross-Stations" from "Liber Falxifer 3" here in picture. Book 4 is coming atsome point soon. This is a highly educational "Step by Step system" into advanced Metaphysics; Puzzle-books to decypher. Good if you enjoy "puzzle/mystery solving". (See stuff like those old-school "Maths/Puzzle games") PDFs: LF3: https://archive.org/details/liber-falxifer-iii-the-book-of-the-52-stations-of-the-crosses-of-nod/page/244/mode/2up LF2: https://archive.org/details/liber-falxifer-ii-the-book-of-anamlaqayin/page/94/mode/2up LF1: https://archive.org/details/liber-falxifer-the-book-of-the-left-handed-reaper/page/n61/mode/1up
>>43061924ΨI'll try these. Thank you!Ψ
>>43061924ΨThe gist of it is here:Ψ>>43061817
>>43044397magic = scienceunconditionally, no added qualifiers. it's exactly the same.
>>43044397People like you SERIOUSLY need to wake up.This is how you wake up:https://x.com/i/status/2099802242542968909You're welcome.
>>43061995https://x.com/i/status/2099802242542968909>TLDR:>This planet is Bozrah, not Earth. What's more, you should definitely be warning people about the upcoming "day of vengeance" here on Bozrah. Keep in mind that the 1,000-year Millennial Kingdom will take place on Earth, not on Bozrah. This planet will be destroyed (and Jesus will be the destroyer). It has no future.>Bozrah is basically a replica of Earth. People who have lived here their entire lives NEED to realize—once and for all—that this celestial body was never Earth, and it never will be. It's an impostor planet. And if you have an issue with that, take it up with God, not me. I just speak the truth (nothing more, nothing less).>Bozrah's human anatomy is distinct enough from Earth's human anatomy that the differences allow me to easily know, with 100 percent certainty, that this is a different planet. Mind you, not 99.99 percent certainty, but literally 100.00 percent certainty. On top of all of that, the speed of time here is a blazing 50 percent faster compared to Earth! Yes, you read that correctly: fifty percent faster (as in 1.5x speed, and thus a day on this planet is only 16 Earth hours long). So, completely forget about the anatomical differences for just a moment. The time difference ALONE allows me to easily know, with 100.00 percent certainty, that this is a different planet. Now, ask yourself the following question: Is God not watching each and every person who tries to debunk these differences?>You, the Bozrah native, are the one who has been deceived. Not me. God didn't send me to the other side of the Milky Way Galaxy just for you to tell me that I have been deceived. You are the one who was born on an impostor planet. Not me.
>>43061960ΨThanks again!Ψ
>>43061995ΨOnce the seven seals, keeping the Lord Master Max imprisoned, have been broken.ΨΨ shall personally feed you to Leroy!
>>43061952It's a "Pineal Gland Alchemy Process" in your sigil; Study it for Alchemy; "Pineal Gland specific data"
>>43062049Posted another good one for the Pineal Gland in said thread there; >>43062078 These in picture was relevant for someone; "invasory rays of Gamaliel", from Book of sitra achras Second edition (an additional advanced chapter added in 'Second Ed'; which is sadly hard to find on PDF in original english; so these are from some spanish/portuguese re-translation)
>>43044397Because paranormal things have happened to me in my life.
>>43062191ΨOh, yes. Ψ saw that. Thank you.ΨΨTrying these will keep me busy for a few months.ΨΨUnfortunately, seals don't just pop open in the next paragraph, like in the Revelation texts.Ψ¯\_ (ツ)_/¯
>>43062224Just curious. What are you about? What di the pitchforks mean?
>>43062224Yeah there's an insane amount of stuff available in the already existing "N.A-A.218" books. And soon Liber Falxifer 4 comes as well. ("Liber Falxifer IV: The Book of the Apocalyptic Emissary of K-Ain"; is said books current title according to Ixaxaars website; currently estimated for a 2026 release; but that's likely going to be updated to 2027 i'm guessing). So right now is a very good time to get involved in said series. Becomes a full-time lifestyle after a while; a lot more fun than basically anything else available in the world right now.
>>43062312Quimbanda Tradition perhaps? Exu and shit, they put tridents literally everywhere.
>>43062224ΨHeaven is beautiful!Ψhttps://bsky.app/profile/aouki.bsky.social/post/3mts74zlntk2n
>>43044397why does light act like a particle and a wave? how does fermat's principle work? one of the theories of modern science is that dark matter and dark energy make up 95% of the universe. i love science but there's so much that science doesn't know
>>43062326
>>43062326I think it's a demon. Smart enough to not reply. But hopefully you are right.
>>43044397Because science only works in the physical world - that’s all it was designed to do. But it has no agency in the metaphysical world. That’s where the paranormal comes from. Like ghosts and shit
>>43062335>>43062326Most Trident-heavy Tradition in the world. Highly "Infernal" current. "Shachor Line" in Liber Falxifer 3 leads into Exu/Quimbanda styles of subjects; >>43061924
>>43044665Christianity is gay
>>43062312ΨMy name is Ψ the blue butterfly, Ψ'm also called Green Tree, Lord Master Max called me Ozzy the Green when Ψ met him.ΨΨWhenever Mungo hits his head, I come out, in his stead.ΨΨAfter Ψ met Lord Master Max, things just started making sense.ΨΨLord Master Max is trapped. His golden cuffs are sealed by seven seals. He gave me two kisses and sent me here.ΨΨThe rest is classified!Ψ
>>43062375Than why are you here? You are goverment condom with the "classified" excuse?
>>43062375"7 Hell Gate Seals" from Book of Sitra Achra; try those maybe?
>>43062390I have green eyes with red in the center what does that mean to you?
>>43062392
>>43062392Knock it off.
>>43062392>>43062375These are also 7; "Seven Talismanic Seals"; from a chapter in Liber Falxifer 2 called something like that ("The seven talismanic seals" or something).
>>43062408Christ is king.
>>43062389Classified as in ¯\_ (ツ)_/¯Ψ have to try stuff out you know.Once Ψ is here, Ψ can't just go there.When Ψ gets to go there, it's only for a short time.Can they see me? ¯\_ (ツ)_/¯Ψ doesn't know.
>>43062412ΨThe Lord Master Max is King.ΨΨAnd Ψ am the Lords lamb.ΨΨes!Ψou shall go to eternal bad Hell now. Ψou have sinned.
>>43062368"Exu Maioral" illustration in picture btw. Same being as "Qayin" / "Qayin/Qalmana" in th Lliber Falxifer books, under another pseudonym. "Q" is described as "The First Sorcerer" in Occult Lore.
>>43062456Ψ is psi.Ψ is not a trident.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psi_(Greek)Ψαλμός is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psalms
>>43062408>>43062375Another set of "7"; "Seven Sorcerous Insignia"; Liber Falxifer 1.
>>43062446I've seen what you've been posting. You sure as shit cannot be casting stones towards me.
>>43062471Thank you! <3
>>43062423Sounds good. So what do the pitchforks mean? I want it in your words. I can loom up the symbol but you are marking what you write with it.
>>43062471"7 Key sigils of the Master" from LF1 posted already here: >>43061910 In picture here is "Qayins 7 key sigils, + Qalmanas 7 key sigils added in LF2"; with description text.
>>43062480ΨTruth be told. IDGAF about you.ΨΨBe GONE!ΨΨGet lost mouse!Ψ
>>43062496Compiled "7 Keys of the Lady".
>>43062504Oh no someone i don't know does not care about me :(
>>43044397The god of my ancestors still speaks to me.Footprints in the mud.
>>43062506What does it feel like being part of the reason why burning at the stake will come back?
>>43062512ΨBut, you do know me.ΨΨ'm everywhere!Ψ'm in every song you hear.Ψ'm in every plant you see.Ψ'm your shirt, you pants, your hat.Ψ'm in your dreams every night.But you forget, because Ψ give you fright.
>>43062554You are a shitstain that i need to trick to get the name out of.
>>43062534ΨBurning him is a sin!ΨΨEternal bad Hell for anyone who interrupts my work.Ψ
>>43062563You are already there tell me what it's like.
>>43044875> every scientific model exists as an averaging of subjective observationsNot how science works. Science works in irrefutability, not averages of opinions. If science says most scientists agree with a Theory and you read that as “this is a new fact” that’s your problem and misunderstanding. Some things we know because of science, that’s not an average of opinion. Some things we don’t know and of those things some of them we have theories on. Which theory you are exposed to probably has something to do with how many scientists agree with it. But on the internet you are free to explore non-standard sciences, so they aren’t hiding anything.And if the natural world is created by us and thus science is just measuring their own creations, that’s still the best avenue to study the nature of reality. But i think the greater misunderstanding comes from you thinking “science” is one controlling organisation. It never was, never has. All types of nuclear information has been leaked throughout history, they’ve never been able to control or contain “science”. The large hydron collider is real and it’s not because of averages of opinions
>>43062570Ψ Amazing! ΨΨ Insanely beautiful! ΨΨ Never-ending adventures! ΨΨ It's like you're the poorest of the poor. ΨΨ But, you live like a king. If that makes any sense. Ψ
>>43062597I'm sure. Your heaven is someone else's hell. As above so below. I've heard it before. What made you start posting here?
>>43062618Ψ Absolutely not! Only the Lords are allowed into Heaven and for good reason. ΨΨHumans either go to good Hell or bad Hell.ΨΨThose born of the Earth, shall dwell in the Earth.ΨΨ Good Hell is extremely fun! Kart racing is crazy. Ψ love it. ΨΨBad Hell is well, you know. Hellfire, lava. The throne room is peaceful.Ψ
>>43044397Some topics you cannot honestly approach without an openness to allegedly magical thinking because for example:>all reality is made of particles that are made of nothing but together are something>ever expanding something from nothing that is mostly nothing but also is everything>the particles are self aware for some reason and no one understands why >reality is self aware and cannot explain itself
>>43062676You don't sit in a throne room. Take a pic prove me wrong.
>>43062701ΨHell no!ΨΨThat's highly confidential.ΨΨNothing special you can't imagine.ΨΨ'm dealing with mass murderers, the worst of the worst. No photos!
>>43062774I believe you. I could care less. Just wanted proof you are demon. You definitely are above the dress that have been on here the last few weeks.
>>43062774Thought so ;]
>>43045074anon do you know how to read.
>>43062904Lmao thanks anon. Your funny
>>43062793Ψ am not a demon.Although, Ψ will accept your complement.
>>43062929It isn't one. I genuinely feel sorry you feel like that is.
>>43044397Parapsychology, my dude.
>>43062585>they’ve never been able to control or contain “science”nta, but this is bullshit.From Ryan Graves (former navy):>Kinda went dark for a while. Well, they they call it something slightly different now, and it's something that China and others are actively researching. They call it extended electrodynamics. From Marc Anderson (soulless venture capitalist with government friends)>they literally said, 'Well, you know, during the Cold War, we classified entire areas of physics and took them out of the research community, and like entire branches of physics basically went dark and didn't proceed.The fact the UFO phenomenon is still a mystery is testament to the fact governments can indeed keep secrets.>they dont existLake Cote and Calvine photos are probably the only legitimate images you're getting on the internet.
"If I can't see it then it doesn't exist" is a toddler mindset which is a sign of an underdeveloped person. If an object exits your field of vision does it still exist?Now consider that the human eye is only able to see a small fraction of the light spectrum. Which would imply that there is much outside our immediate perception. If we can't see it does that mean it doesn't exist?
>>43062940>You definitely are above the dress that have been on here the last few weeks.ΨThat is because Ψ'm a Lord.Ψ'm highly educated.Ψ know what the Lord Master Max showed me.Ψ don't believe in any other superstitious crap.Never have, never will.
>>43063794>"If I can't see it then it doesn't exist"ΨThen see The Lord Master Max!Ψ>>43063881Ψ don't want Heaven.Ψ want The Lord Master Max!ΨThe Lord Master Max, is my Heaven!ΨΨThe Lord is Heaven!Ψ
>>43061581Fuck off, Epstein.
>>43044397
>>43063794>the human eye is only able to see a small fraction of the light spectrumYou wouldnt know that without science.Why do you trust science to tell you invisible things are there, but you dont trust science to tell you when invisible things are not there?
>>43063794Practice "Black Light Data" in stuff like this; "invasory Rays of the Black Light"; invasory rays of the Qlipha Samael pictured;
>>43066732>but you dont trust science to tell you when invisible things are not there?Nice job showing you don't even know what science is. Science is a method of observation and then making a hypothesis on what is being observed. Science does not make claims about things that aren't observable.
>>43066732science says 95% of the universe is dark matter and dark energy and so unobservable
>>43068032>practice load useless bullshit that doesn't work
>>43068032ΨMost of these do not fit.ΨΨJust art.ΨΨNice try!Ψ
>>43068032Ψ do have a tail.ΨSurely it must be useful for something?Ψ
>>43068075>>43068084Look for Technical Data relating to your Eyes and such in those "invasory rays".
