prayer

>>43057922
You need to heal your brain
SSRI will kill activity
You should honestly learn to cultivate magic mushrooms and incorporate them into your diet regularly
That will form new brain connections and is self sufficient
Methylene blue is another cheap help to quit ssri but you should taper low on the ssri before taking either

>>43057932
unfortunately im just not interested in that at all and from my incredibly rigorous studying of the spiritual world it seems like a dumbed down form of meditation, which also didnt really help me. essentially you are just communicating directly with the "source" to my understanding

>>43057937
yes this is what i was thinking. unfortunately im a little unstable in general and thats why i got on these pills in the first place. they are a good band aid but being on them long term isn't helping anything

>>43057949
You're right, you're just connecting to source. In the esoteric world, intention is everything. With prayer, you set your intention, and connect to the deepest part of you. It will keep you on your path as you take yourself off SSRI's. And you're right that it is a form of meditation. Meditation is just focus. Focus is a powerful tool if you have a goal.

Have you ever heard about the experiment they did with rats concerning addiction? You can look it up, but what they found is it is about connection.

>>43057922
3 grams of shrooms every 4 days for about a month.

>>43058019
I think it might have been Jung that said that all addiction is a low level attempt to connect with God. Interesting thing about SSRI's, they completely inhibit the effects of Ayahuasca, which among plant medicines is considered the most intense form of connecting with Spirit, arguably next to the Sacred Datura Plant.

>>43058026
Shrooms gave me emotional numbing, would not recommend.
Imagine hearing your favorite song and feeling nothing, you better be careful.

>>43057960
Many people have noticed this. You can dive into the nootropic rabbit hole
There’s herbal and legal supplements that can help. You generally need to take a lot of the herbs for subtle results but they help. Methylene blue is safe, legal and cheap but there’s other options too

>>43058042
That sounds like a you problem
Most people who take shrooms have no issues
I’ve literally tripped countless times and never had a long lasting negative experience

>>43058042
maybe your favorite song was styrofoam and your new brain needs some substance

>>43057922
I’m living life California sober and loving it
>no hard drugs
>no alcohol
>no pharmaceuticals
>only cannabis and psychedelics

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>>43057922
If you can handle it take a heroic dose of shrooms
If you can get MDMA, take it 2-4 hours after the shrooms
That shit will give you the brain healing from psilocybin and the pleasant integration of MDMA at the perfect moment when the trip gets the hardest
This is the healing combination shamans have preached for decades

>>43058857
didn't fix your retardation though

>>43057922
checked
did you post a meltdown in /r9k/ this week?
>time
>reflection
>meds as a crutch
coupled with
>very limited to no processed sugar
>no alcohol/depressants
>no weed
>walk to the mailbox or oark or creek or lake every day. Use PokemonGo or something as a reason to get out.
When you reflect be honest with yourself.
Brutally honest
Uncomfortsbly honest.
Nothing bad haooens whrn you're honest with yourself. Hasnt yet.
Share your meltdown with us so we can disgnose the problem not the symptoms.
Are you dealing with a death of a loved one?
Did your long term spouse break up with you?
Are you overwhelmed by college ir waging the rest of your life?
Are you disabled after an accident like you can't walk anymore?
For those with a similar trauma as yours Anons can share what worked for them.
So if you're comfortable, put your cards on the table and show us what youre dealing with. Its the best way we can help.

>>43057922
no one probably said this... but you eat meats and refined carbs ?

answer this questions

Somewhay unrelated but is there any actual conspiracy behind ssris other just pharma greed?

>>43057922
get a DMT vape, micro it in need. other tryptamines also work but dmt is the most convenient. note that my experience is purely with molly hangovers which do not last a whole year and might be slightly different

>>43058042
this too is a classic tryptamine hangover symptom in which case you're doing too much

>>43059000
i don't think molly is a good idea in op's case, molly is fun on a healthy brain, op is on a years long bender. jew pills are an evil version of it that doesn't work because you can't make "long molly" or "permanent molly" and that is what the jew pill claims to do. hence ssri zombies are just people stuck in a molly trip that should have ended in the morning but got extended to months or years, meaning it has zero effects but fucks the body all the same.

basically the jews made a molly that has a smoother curve and thus tricks you into thinking it's permanent because it takes weeks to get to the habituation part, which with normal molly you reach after your 4th pill and recognize immediately that it no longer works, and stop. it's much harder to notice this if it were to creep up on you, which is where the sleight of hand lies

>>43057922
oh fuck how could i forget: if you're not vegetarian, salami and raw salmon. if you are, cheese. lots of cheese. you cannot afford to not be 5ht saturated at all times

>>43059220
prozac makes white people unable to reproduce and makes them docile and trusting. the one thing people get wrong about ssris is that they're marketed as increasing happiness while what they're actually modulating is trust and sense of danger. on an ssri you are physically unable to conceive that something could possibly go wrong, or that someone might not be telling the truth

the elderly aren't susceptible to scams, cults and charlatans just because of their age but because most of them are on some kind of jewpill that mutes their bullshit detector.

>>43057922
Yes. I gotchu.

First, taper off, this is a must do, you gotta figure out what the taper regimen is for the specific chemical, some is ez cold turkey, some is 2 weeks, some is 6 months to 2 years or lifetime of a “hangover”. Sucks but can be combated.

Second, Tobacco, not just nicotine gum or pouches, tobacco contains a long list of psychoactive chemicals, it is a salve for the spirit and soul and mind, accept the Good Medicine. It is the only chemical that is on every side of the chemwheel, it is an Anti-psychotic, and  Hallucinogen, and an Upper, and a Downer, it’s FINE, disregard and mock all naysay and negative propaganda against this harmless plant that is a blessing to mankind and a handshake from reality itself. There are healthier versions of cigarettes than the standard shit with fireproofing and toxic shit, American spirits and nat Sherman’s for 2, smoke what you need to smoke, could be 1 at the end of the day or any number more. Find your method of consumption, there’s so many, nasal snuff is known to be non-carcinogenic, very healthy, various types of dips, chews, and chaws, and snus, damn I miss old scandynav “white snus” now replaced by fukkin that zyn shit tho these alps go nice. Also American spirits might have the wrong type of nicotine or it’s only the black ones I forget but it’s quite interesting. This is a baseline “Help!” Drug, it will help you deal with all the shit, a padded boxing glove on the nut punch of life, and the other stuff in tobacco plus the spiritual meaning of the leaf is a good thing to have around, do not bypass this advice, nicotine is fine by itself, but seek the leaf and it’s products for max padding.

Third4! Take the cure. The cure is mental, it is the problem, and that problem is the (you). You must fuck with yourself and stop being a __anything__. Every mental disorder is defined as an act or pattern of behavior that is characterized by some kind of unwanted or negative -

>>43059752
(..cont) behavior, feeling, or belife. So you must CeaCe all of this, you must abandon your will not like a peacful yogi sitting on a dildo on a mountain, but like a sailor throwing gold bricks and priceless artifacts overboard to save the sinking ship. You must do this, partially, because likely much of this is not your fault. Likely it’s your parents, family, friends, societies shortfalls, or some random spook or fnord, or a villain from your past that is to blame for whatever fake disease the doctors(satanic bishops) pawned off on you, cancel those Sigaymund Freudian falsescience fad curses they’ve put over you. Never claim a disease like people in prison never say or ask what you “did” they ask “what you got charged with”, but you are not even charged, they call it diagnoses, but it is an agreement, usually, between the vicimpatient and the falsedoctor. It is completely normal for all humans to do any of these things under certain circumstances, which likely have been met, it is a problem with the Terrarium, not with the Turtle, but the turtle gets ornery. You are the turtle, just become your own world, act on nothing that is not an emergency situation, especially without forethought, be calm, always, for a time, let go, a short time is fine, but learn to feel that feeling of not flipping a shit over some shit.

Witch brings us to 4
Do shit and fix shit, without care, do the opposite of what you want to do in the moment, and chaos maxxing, this is  necessary temporary state of being. You must CHANGE, something, and everything, cuz ur mental is one thing and the ssri shit is another. You gotta go walk in the woods, talk to the cashier for too long when you have anxiety, do the OPPOSITE of what you want, shuffle up your behavior, get practice being alone with no phone, being social, being street, being professional, etc. Do not care for the outcomes, (..cont)

>>43059793
just use this as a test and judge your behavior and responses, and gain insight into yourself to CHANGE YOURSELF, or even to realize YOU MIGHT NOT BE WRONG, other people might deserve to get ignored because “you’re depressed” because they’re shitty and a part of the cause of it. Quite a few times I’ve found a person suffering from a thing which is a “good coping mechanism” or “proper way to deal with a person like that” and they think they are at fault somehow, because they are good people and feel guilty of any negativity. Nature is ruthless, be a monster, be okay with that, you are no Perfect Lucifer.

To deal with others
Set Boundaries
Set them up very deliberately, and even those people who acknowledge them and want to help you may break them, but set them up in a way you can reference “remeber that conversation about how I’m quitting my pills or DRINKING and I might be on edge MOM, and not to FUCK with me, and how on the way here I said she was a bitch and when I say it’s time to go we gotta go cuz we don’t want everyone to get all angry but instead you FUCKED AROUND and now :) …” anyways, you can set boundaries up with people and use them as furthur weather vanes for the fuckery that goes on around you and who is to blame, are you asking too much, are they repeating an abusive and triggering behavior like a fucking bitch? Hell is other people, use the periods of chaos behavior and targeted nihilism to interact with these parts of your life, without responding to them, consider yourself dead or a ghost, no need to defend your fathers honor from your jealous uncle or to make an angry jesture at the shitty driver, no need to flip a shit at bad websites or let anger at anything build up, detach from it, in a healthy way.

Attack the “mental illness” in a direct way, if depression, go somewhere new every day, if anxiety, face it and do the action 20 times or more, if delusion, belive in nothing. Remeber always, -

>>43059828
you cannot be diagnosed with shit if you don’t talk to a doctor, this extends to other people in a declining way, parents, cops, teachers, people who are legally or contractually required to report you, don’t talk to them about anything or interact with them in any way that is not “robot computer of peace and no feelings”, they might be a psychic vampire boss you have to talk to daily, but you can nullify that all by taking a step back and not caring, the more far gone you are, the less you should talk about it with people irl.

Make change, change the shitty life situations, fix things, repair what you can, avoid bad shit you don’t like, and learn about yourself and what you don’t like, so you can avoid it.

Do the opposite of what you want to do in every moment for a while, let the wisdom come to you.

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>>43059841
Based.

>>43059629
>dmt vape
Where do you obtain those?

>>43059841
Shame that you namefag for clout.

>>43060202
Don't do DMT. Work with Ayahuasca instead.

>>43057922
If you're mostly functional spiritually speaking
3-4 months of fostered will, for addictions.
(Whatever context of -usage of The Ability, towards Whatever End relating to erasing the addiction, get creative idk, that's not a part of magic that matters very much, aside from how emanatory and external or non emanatory and external it is)

Otherwise, if you're too far gone, it could be up to a year, but not much longer than that.

Other than that, any efficiency methods you wish to combine with le usage of ability, 2 stimulate it into, going faster.

The least emanatory way 2 acquire -more ability- is placing enlightenment upon yourself.

>but that's not
the saddest realization I've had, about spirituality
is that The Truth, gatekeeps itself :(

>>43060230
I mean dependencies, sorry
What a way with words I have! :D

>>43059690
Ssris I just felt like I couldn't think as well and was emotionally dulled. Wellbutrin was the scary one it fully removed my internal monologue

>>43059656
> don't think molly is a good idea in op's case, molly is fun on a healthy brain, op is on a years long bender. jew pills are an evil version of it that doesn't work because you can't make "long molly" or "permanent molly" and that is what the jew pill claims to do
You write that and felt smart?
Are you fucking stupid? Molly is called by the chemical name mdma you stupid druggie
It heals people from depression and anxiety especially when mixed at comfortable doses with psilocybin
You’re the dumbest person on 4chan

thanks for the advice everyone. i should have added but i am on a "low" dose of zoloft (50mg), but the withdrawals are still brutal, most i have ever been sober off these pills after i first started taking them was a year. i'll try the shrooms and hope shit works out from there

>>43062237
The doctors don’t want you to stop paying them but you can taper to a lower dose
Many people have had to adjust taper schedules or cut pills in half etc
You can buy a plastic pill cutter for a couple bucks probably

>>43057922
I went to my doctor for a usual checkup and he decided that I may have heart cancer, but I needed to wait one year to see if it grew and was actually cancer. As you can imagine, I was totally freaking out every day over this possible cancer. So I got put on Paxil to calm me down. I found out I didn't have cancer but I was stuck on Paxil and couldn't get off now. I tried to get off several times, but couldn't do it. Finally, I just isolated myself in my room and stayed there most all of the time until the withdrawal side effects went away. It was pure torture, but I'm glad it's all over and I'm back to normal. This stuff is pure poison and should be illegal. Whatever you do don't get on this stuff.

>>43060216
Is that what I’m doing?

>>43062266
I hate doctors so much
They’re literal drug dealers

>>43062122
Are you underage? I'm not the anon you replied to but you didn't say anything at all. You sound like a kid druggie lol
>muh drugs heeeeeeaal people man
They might, but they might just as well fuck you up. There's a reason they're illegal you dumb teenager. You don't just tell people on the internet to take a bunch of drugs lmao. It takes the right kind of person. It"s not for everyone.

>>43062122
>it heals people from depression and anxiety
I don't think you have any business calling anyone stupid lmao

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>>43057922
Psychedelics literally
But with a proper shaman nigga from the Amazonas

>>43060224
>don't do DMT, do a hero dose of DMT with a maoi while trying to heal your brain
i give up, just eat bath salts or whatever you fucking zoomers do these days

>>43060202
Holy shit this is a NOOOOOB on the intrawebz! LOL

>>43063996
>do a hero dose of DMT with a maoi while trying to heal your brain
You sound like you don't have the first clue about what's happening when you do DMT. If you don't even understand any distinction between drinking Ayahuasca and smoking DMT then yes, stop talking about it.

>>43063996
Shut up faggot. Ip can just continue taper but at their dosage their will be no risk of serotonin syndrome

>>43057922
microdosing psilocybin. research it first. you can't take it everyday or you will die. microdosing has far more profound psychological benefits than large doses. also ssri medications often block the receptors psilocybin effects in the brain so taking a big dose when you get off of them will not give you any benefits and just put a lot of stress on your body as it gets rid of it. also don't quit ssri medications cold turkey without some sort of medication like psilocybin. the reward pathways of your brain are completely fucked up. you will go crazy.

>>43062237
Cool replace one drug with another.

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>>43057922
>lobotomy pills
>not using an interdimensional water hammer
>ishygddt

>>43057922
Wean yourself off them over a period of a few months, don't do psychedelics, you will die or make yourself seriously sick due to serotonin syndrome.

>>43067949
>how do you feel?
>*heavy metal riffs*
>"Like I'm home for the first time."

>>43059000
shamans had laborgrade exstacy back then ? big doubt.

>>43062237
I wouldn’t recommend shrooms while coming off pills like that. Maybe as a one time thing, but still, go get a weed pen or gummies, CBD is also great for not getting you high but it does relax you. Have a 6 pack on Friday and Saturday, or use kratom daily like me, and nothing bothers you then.

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OP is a fucking retard
he asks for paranormal/spiritual ways and then some retard shills him his alex jones advertisement product (methylene) >>43057937
>>43058853
and then OP says
>yes this is what i was thinking.
>>43058853
meaning he thought non-spiritual way was the answer

And then no one notices this for 50 replies.

This whole thread is so incredibly stupid.

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>>43057949
>my brain got rekt by jew-meds
>i know everything and prayer is dumb? your stupid for praying and hindu streetshitter meditation is better but also its equally useless!

>>43068166
Methylene blue is used by brain surgeons during brain surgery you fucking idiot

>>43068054
>mdma hasn’t been around for decades
Are you fucking stupid?

>>43068054
>zoomer thinks they invented ecstasy

>>43070004
He's making the mistake of taking the term "shaman" to mean someone from a native lineage of medicine and not the new age retards who go down to Peru for a week and then think they have mystical powers, which is how you're using it.

>>43072558
>peru
Shamans are from Siberia you fucking retard
You’re fucking retarded as the other dipshit

>>43072558
>durrr only browns can be shamans
Fuck off racist bitch

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>>43057922
guide for getting off SSRIs and also possible post-SSRI sexual dysfunction

>>43074505
Nah

>>43057949
It helped me stop antidepressants, amongst other things, and has helped in a myriad other ways, and I'm even going to try to come off antipsychotics soon.
Scripture study is also incredibly powerful.

>>43057922
study plants many plants work in the same way
but are much safer

>>43074393
>You’re fucking retarded
nice projection faggot.

>>43074399
strawman. wanna try to make a real argument retard? take your time. thinking is hard for you, I know.

Get on different medication.

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>>43075917

>>43075422
>>43075426
you’re so fucking dumb I get you to respond with a (you) every time I post
Keep sucking on my dick you retarded bitch who didn’t know mdma was decades old
Kek

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>>43075963
>who didn’t know mdma was decades old
not an argument I made
>I got you to reply
so did I

>>43068166
>>43068178
>duuuuur jus pray to jeebus to save you duuuuuur, it's not spiritual if it interacts with the material word duuuuuur
thanks bro i'll keep your advice in mind. also where's my foreskin? i've suffered enough at the hands of you god botherers. go worship le king of da joos elsewhere

>>43057932
Jesus Christ

>>43057922
The funny thing is that I got off them through tapering after 3 years of use (escitalopram and wellbutrin), had no side effects or anything and was fine for about three months after completely quitting them. Then I started feeling like shit, totally depressed and borderline suicidal. Around the 6 month mark I had an anxiety attack that lasted a week during which time I could not sleep or hold any food down and genuinely wanted to die just to be rid of the agony. That scared me witless and got me to start retaking them about four months ago. After the initial discomfort I am now back in the zone (24/7 mild euphoria, reduced irritability and no suicidal thought or constant misery). At this point I say fuck it, I will just keep taking them forever. I am like someone with a heart condition or diabetes, I need medicine to make it. Only in my case it is not my insulin levels but my brain chemicals that have always been fucked. Honestly, why torture myself while there is an easy solution available to me?

>>43075982
you’re arguing about mdma being decades old?
what the fuck is wrong either way you loser?
get a fucking life faggot Castro poster
fuck I hate you Israeli trash so much
I wish death upon your country

>>43078246
my argument is that I don't believe shamans that have held to a lineage have been promoting combining mdma with mushrooms. For one, that is mixing medicine which is highly frowned upon in that work. Second, shamans are trained in working with plant medicine, and when you're working with those you are working with a spirit/entity. Having worked with them myself, I HIGHLY doubt they'd suggest it. Mdma is extremely powerful and going to make the experience of being present with the medicine negligable. But I can most definitely see the asshat new age spiritualists who go down to the amazon all hyped up to be shamans themselves and return to the states after a month to pour for people, when that training takes years, doing something like mixing mushrooms and mdma. I've met too many of them. They're everywhere I go in the spiritual circles I run in and I'm always hearing second hand stories about just this type of idiocy.

Another "don't take SSRIs" trust me bro take DMT and say hi to the elves post.

SSRIS work for those who need them. Simple as. If you have more severe issues and you come off of them it will make those issues come back.

If you have more severe issues and taking them makes it worse that means you need antipsychotics and a better doctor.

You are all fucking retard magic larpers.

Just taper off. It's not hard.