Christianity, as practiced in most churches, is a form of ritual magic centered on blood sacrifice.Communion is not a neutral remembrance. It is a repeated ritual in which participants accept the death of an innocent man as payment for their own wrongdoing. When you take the bread and wine and affirm that his blood was shed for you, you are spiritually agreeing to that exchange. You are placing the cost of your actions onto someone else. That is the structure of a sacrifice ritual.The original teachings pointed somewhere different. “I am the way” referred to the manner of living he demonstrated: non-possession, care for the poor, service, refusal to harm. Eternal life was tied to that path, not to accepting a killing on your behalf. Later authorities reframed the story so that people could bypass the work of repairing harm and instead claim a one-time blood payment. The cross became a symbol to be worn and displayed, constantly reaffirming the death rather than the life.If the standard is the life that was actually taught, then the ritual of accepting another’s blood in place of your own responsibility moves in the opposite direction. Repairing what you have damaged, seeking forgiveness from those you hurt, and learning to live without adding more harm is harder. It does not offer a free pass. But it is the only process that matches the ethic that was preached.I don’t want to continue to bore you with ky beliefs because I’ve come to understand you simply refuse to understand something. You don’t have to accept it but in some way it may help you understand tings better. The ruth is simultaneously spiritual and psychological and it’s my belief that we dream or reincarnate after death and we’re in a shared dream experience thats been hijacked. Some of have been here for a while and just want out. Now if you don’t mind I’m going to go eat some more chicken and dumplings.
>>43081497>Note to self: don’t eat while typing
OK what is your point?
>>43081497>Christianity, as practiced in most churches, is a form of ritual magic centered on blood sacrifice.I like you, anon. I can see that you question reality and you use your brain. How cool is that?>It is a repeated ritual in which participants accept the death of an innocent man as payment for their own wrongdoing.Jesus is the scapegoat of the christians. They put all their sins over him and kill him or left him to die or be claimed by "God Himself" who demands "Justice", but they don't call it that, they call him "The Lamb of The Lord".I think you are unto something, anon. DOn't let the demonic christians annoy you when they start to pollute this awesome thread.
>>43081497True Christianity condemns magic. Only false denominations commit an attempt at magic but are unsaved by lack of accepting grace through faith
>>43081709>smug faggotry detected
>>43081497Thank you, chatGPT
>>43081780Not GPT actually, though I can understand why you would think that. Those bots can seem like real people when arguing with them online.
>>43081497>authorities reframed the story so that people could bypass the work of repairing harm and instead claim a one-time blood payment. >If the standard is the life that was actually taught, then the ritual of accepting another’s blood in place of your own responsibility moves in the opposite direction. Repairing what you have damaged, seeking forgiveness from those you hurt, and learning to live without adding more harm is harder. That's wrong. In Christianity, we believe, yes, that Jesus' sacrifice should always be remembered and honored, but it doesn't stop there. It's not the same as the Jewish chicken fling thing that casts your sins out and you're good. The Bible asks you to both honor this sacrifice and also follow him. When you say >authorities reframed the story so that people could bypass the work of repairing harm and instead claim a one-time blood payment. It's not only wrong but precisely the opposite of what the religion asks of you. It wants you to both accept your place as sinner, recognize Jesus' sacrifice for you and also for you to follow Him. Faith without works is dead. If you don't actively work to make this fallen world a better place even if a bit, in the name of Jesus, then you're not following His teachings. There is no ''exchange'' here. You're not partaking in some ritual to gain something out of it, for God doesn't need anything from you. Christians just praise God. We don't believe some disaster will fall on our lives as punishment for disobedience, nor we think we'll get a free pass to sin and destroy just because we believe. We praise because we're thankful, and because God deserves it and more.
>>43081497>death of an innocent man as payment for their own wrongdoing>non trinitarian like why even bother how did Martin Luther fuck up this bad bro WHAT IS THE POINT
>>43081939>Faith without works is dead.Parrot talk right here.>If you don't actively work to make this fallen world a better place even if a bit, in the name of Jesus, then you're not following His teachings.Don't listen to this golem. He wants to make a sheep out of you. Look what he said. It contradicts the bible. The world has no salvation. We can't change the world or its rules. Animals are still going to suffer and death will still happen. This is all a cope that the christians want to pass to you, a heavy burden. That you have to be nice when people are being mean to you, that you have to sacrifice yourself for the sins of others, ultimately like Jesus did. SO you will sacrifice your life so a bunch of sinners can keep on sinning and they frame that as people actually not sinning anymore. Every christian here profess to follow christi, but they still sin and they will cope by saying that it's impossible not to sin and lo and behold, that is exactly the point. The people who creatde the concept of sin knew what they were doing. It's wicked. This guy talks about faith, but what works has faith provided? Look to the people who profess to believe in God, what are their works? People will be the judge. Faith with works is dumb, faith without works is less dumb because people who have faith and put on the work end up making the world a worst place, just like the christians when they go out and try to assimilate you into their religion and system. Fuck that. A person who has faith, but does not act on it does better than all of you who profess to have faith and then you act and then what do you do? Holy wars, you demonize people and cultures, you destroy cultures and turn people into golems, sheep, people who can't think for themselves because the bible says that is a sin. Fuck you. Stop promoting christianity. Christianity is a cancer to mankind. Face it. Your whole system is based in appealing to fear and when people ask too many question you appea to Hell.
I cant really argue with OP's logic. The true message of Jesus, vs. this dark ritualistic nonsense. The whole bathe in his blood and eat his flesh is particularly distasteful. People can make excuses all they want, but these were lies built after the fact off the back of the mythrals. They also had the blood and flesh, the last supper, the god crucified on the cross. These were carried over by Paul's campaign to convert their churches to Christianity. Paul was one of the main architects of this fake Christianity, and he'd sell his own mother to avoid persecution. This is the reality of it. The real teachings are in the Essene works. The only reason the current bible has any true teachings in it at all is because when they edited everything they didnt understand the esoteric meanings.
>>43081939>for God doesn't need anything from you.What a fucking lie! God clearly needs to create! GOd has obssession for giving life to stuff. Peopel say that we live "God's plan" and guess what? His plan sucks! No question about it. Without the shadow of any doubt, His plan fucking sucks!! God needs us. Otherwise how would God distract Himself? If God does not need anything then why does he command angels and stuff? If God does not need anything from us then why does God get mad when the prophet Jonas did not want to do what he was told to do? WHy did God had to make a giant fish eat him? Why would God force a storm and make him fall unto the sea? Come on! You are clearly not being honest here! You are 100% showing how biased you are and how youa re not being honest in your way of thinking. YOu are way too biased. You don't know what the fuck you are saying. You are just parroting stuff. God clearly needs us otherwise we would not be here. This palce needs us. Life needs us otherwise who would have this gift of life? God did need subjects so God can interact with them. I don't care if it's on God's mind or physical, somehow God has to imagine other beings and interact with them, this signals some kind of wanting. God wants something. You are full of shit. Life needs us otherwise how would life manifest? In order for life to manifest God needs living beings living and lo and behold, here we are. I just want to stress how this guy is lying and he may not realyze that he is dumb, but he is a golem and I advise everyone here to mock him so he can see how disgraceful he is.
>>43081939>for God doesn't need anything from youHe needs me to beleive in him lol It's in the bible. God can't save the person by Himself, somehow the person must accept the gift of salvation, God can't force people to accept it. So God needs something from us. Because the bible says that God wants everyone to live so God definitely wants us to accept His gift of Salvation, but lo and behold, we righfully so reject!!! 666 Again, I just want to signal how you are lying and how you do not know what the fuck you are saying, I want to signal how you are nothing more than a sheep and a parrot, regurgitating the same cliches and excuses.
>>43081975>you have to sacrifice yourself for the sins of others We truly don't. Jesus already sacrificed himself for sins of everyone. >A person who has faith, but does not act on it does better than all of you who profess to have faith and then you act and then what do you do? I don't get what you mean here, but if you mean Bad Christian vs Good Atheist, both are bad. The absolutely majority of so-called Christians nowadays have no place to judge or impose nothing to anyone. It's like preaching against homosexuality when you beat your wife when you get home; I can't defend nor answer for all Christians, I can only say what our faith is about.>>43081996 >If God does not need anything from us then why does God get mad when the prophet Jonas did not want to do what he was told to do? Same way a father gets mad at a stubborn child that refuses to do his obligations. Like Saul, if Jonas refused or got corrupted himself God would just choose another. >God wants something. Yeah, he wants us to repent. To live a saintly life, to be truly happy, and to join Him. That's love. He doesn't need us, be he loves us. >>43082017>God can't save the person by Himself He can. He can do anything. But he won't, because he gave us free will. There's no reason to force someone to be saved, specially if that person doesn't want it. If either everyone gets saved or damned makes no different to God's power, but He wishes for everyone to go to Heaven. >God definitely wants us to accept His gift of Salvation Exactly. But that is ultimately your choice. Again, to accept it, to preach it and to exercise His Gift.
