This movie came out one year before The Matrix. There were many others like it. Movies about "waking up" and finding out reality is being controlled by some malicious group of non-human intelligences.Were certain directors trying to wake us up or was it all just another psyop?
>>43087269Also consider, the director that worked on Dark City is the same one that worked on The Crow, and before you go "so what" have a look at this
>>43087269I think there was a sincere attempt around that time. A big reason why modern media isn’t compelling is because there’s no deep resonating aspect to it, it’s just an attention equation. They’re good at grabbing attention now, but we collectively sense the lack of fun because of the absence of the sincerity some real artists manage to convey. Most people don’t seem to notice or care, but some can sense the hollowness easily.
>>43087283you saying he's cursed, or murdered them both for the success of the film?
>>43087269i understand u anon, and liked the movie and really really wanted to appreciate it.. but at the end of the day it just doesn't make the 7/10 cutin the post-VHS era making such a one-shot product, not paying attention, is inexcusable
>>43087283>different mood>different MC motive>different resultThe only similar thing is "guy in makeup walks in on group of badguys and isnt intimidated."The worst kind of trying too hard comparison.>inb4 they have nothing to explain and pathetically just say I dont get it
>>43087269the collective unconsciousness is coming to terms with the fact that is has indeed been trapped inside a false reality created by an unknown author. once we have come to terms with this, who knows? maybe we can escape it, or at least punish those who promulgate it.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cUR4up6EBLA&ra=m
>>43087589Okay, but why tf were we raptured to Bozrah, and even then this world is pretty hellish, and in one of that dude's posts he says real Earth is somehow a shitton worse than this world rn.
>>43087620> an unknown authorA real classic. ;)
>>43087269if you watch dark city i recommend the director's cut
>>43087620>false>realityYou exist and there's nothing you can do about itYou need to write fiction because you cannot write fact, unlike THEWhy is that part so hard to understand? You don't need anything else
>>43087700This world is objectively not all that bad, once you heal your perceptions and internal-demons.Remember that the entire world is your mirror and it is forged by your perceptions."To the pure, all things are pure"
>>43088229try telling that to people who've been cursedyours is just another implicitly victim-blaming metaphysics, and worthless as either knowledge or guidance, go fuck yourself
>>43087589>aktuwally this pwanet is called Bozwahstopped reading
>>43088229>Remember that the entire world is your mirror and it is forged by your perceptions.>"To the pure, all things are pure"I must be some sort of hitlerjewdevildemon then
>>43087283This is indeed remarkable. And they both died a the age of 28. I guess it's just down to the artist's style, but still.Has he ever commented on the this or their deaths? Seems pretty rough.
>>43087620Power in the matrix is not called power. Its called author-ity
>>43088229Paying income tax to a slave state that uses your money to bomb civillians as a business. Fiat money etc etc etc>its actually your projection anonwords of a deceiver demon
>>43087609Bozrah spam, glowie distraction posted in every fucking thread. Disgusting.
>>43087269Some aren't obvious. Like Bambi or Beavis and Butthead Do America. Even Dredd can be /x/ if you tilt your head. They're all expressions of the source code so they all contain the structure. Some movies like Dark City or The Matrix are just total on the nose about it. Do they intend for this at the deeper level? No, most humans are completely unaware of what is right in front of them. Always have been. Occasionally some come along to point it out and they're murdered. Because it's all just a story being told.
>>43087269The goth aesthetic was popular in the 90s so a lot of this subject matter was discussed. After the 80s the young people knew their 90s world was synthetic somehow but didnt have the language to describe it yet
just saw this today, more saturn (black sun) symbolism
>>43087269'They Live'
>>43087269Would you call these movies gnostic or gnostic-adjacent? Are there any other belief systems that center around the concept of a false reality/prison/archonic rulers/etc?(I'm aware that gnosticism is mostly reconstructed and comprises different beliefs but we can all be heterosexual and understand it as shorthand for "bad giys control us in the matrix.)
>>43089050Based blacks law enjoyer
>>43089936yeah, gnosticism wasn't the only philosophy to evolve out of mesopotamia that focused on rising above ordinary life and transcendence or escaping mundane existencebefore gnosticism it was neoplatonism and hermeticism that took center stage, and all three arose around the same time in greco-roman egypt around the start of the common era, along with other philosophies of the time like stoicism
>>43087269I think The Game is a good one to show you how easily they can manipulate reality, even in a completely non-metaphysical way. Kind of like the Truman Show.
>>43087620What do you think is behind the obsession of the "10 & 2" symbology with the clock? You know a common one is the Mickey one, which you can find Tom Hanks wearing one in one of The Da Vinci Code movies. Or even the one in the whole Gamestop thing. Never could figure out what it really means even thoughI've known about it for decades
This one came out in 1973 and predicted the debate about simulation theory in decades. Good tv show.
>>43087269Tuning is based
>>43087269It's just some slop
>>43090912What's your favorite film?
>>43090363Do neoplatonism and hermeticism feature the sort of cruel farmlike aspects of Dark City, The Matrix, They Live and the other flicks we're talking about? That's the aspect of gnostic thought that I meant more specifically, sorry for being a vague retard.
The Matrix is a nigger and I'm tired of being loosh-harvested on a daily basis because the Simulation thinks it would be funny to summon 5 trannies with "he/they" (women) in my face on a daily basis.Trans"men" are performing the work of satan and serve Saturn by honoring and glorifying the flesh and material world. They are so hopelessly lost in gender politics that they refuse to acknowledge gender won't even exist when you achieve Moksha and become a pure Spirit form.They are fettered. Deeply. and their obsession with penis and wanting to be a man keeps them bound to the physical realm. I'm just glad God punishes these people and they're always suffering from depression and BPD and all sorts of mental illnesses and having their family die. It's just Karma for being such shit human beings.Jesus Christ, please protect me from Loosh-harvesting and protect me from the evil tranny hordes. Ensure Saturn and the Matrix don't keep me here in this prison longer than I should be. Please purify my Karma, Amen thank you Amen
>>43088237Maybe you've been cursed for being such a prick and telling people to go fuck themselves.but that's your problem in the end, and God will smite you for your ignorance. Good luck and have fun being such a miserable person in life. You'mre definitely goin g to the Humgry Ghoul realm lol
>>43091405No one cares for your religious childish fantasies. Shoo-shoo
>>43091424In the name of Jesus Christ, I transmute your negativity and Loosh into beauty, power, and protection for myself. In Jesus name Amen
>>43091129in that case there are a lot of modern "anti-cosmic" currents, some of which are some form of gnostic satanism, such as 09A, MLO, TotBL, Current 218 N.A.A-218, and Ordo Niger Solaris to name a few
>>43091497You said>God will smite you for your ignorance. Good luck and have fun being such a miserable person in life. You'mre definitely goin g to the Humgry Ghoul realm lolTry learning some self-awareness bud
>>43091497>muh negativityand looshLook inwards dude. That's you.Besides I know for a fact that Jesus is Lucifer so cope all ya want>>43091382>Le tranniesBack to /pol/
>>43087269I've often found that films exposing a sinister elite trying to brainwash and oppress society, keeping them zombified etc., are just as easily interpreted as mystical films about initiation into a higher consciousness. The sinister elites being also metaphors for the appetites and biases which keep us shackled to a profane existence like beasts of the field. Read like this, Neo wakes up to the meaninglessness of life without spirit, of purely material existence. Dark City is in the same vein, but there are better films that explore this. Anything that reveals the world to be more than it seems, awakens the protagonist to a secret reality, tests their sincerity (everlasting gobster, the feast in Pan's Labyrinth/the sacrifice of self in Pan's Labyrinth and Donnie Darko etc.). All of these can be read as political statements too, but I think this is a blind which conceals the real treasure. Eyes Wide Shut is the most powerful expression of this.
>>43087269This usually goes in trends, yes. We just passed the marvel superhero trend which lasted too long in my opinion.
>>43091382Jesus is another control system. You can trust nothing else, only yourself.
>>43091797Anything antiquated? These are interesting, I'll have to familiarize myself a little more, but it's not really what I'm looking for. Are there any other belief systems that place humans in opposition to a false god or ruling system, specifically beliefs that aren't modern distributed occult groups? It doesn't have to be Mesopotamian, but I am thinking about dead old world beliefs, I guess. For example, many monotheistic beliefs exist and have sort of evolved out of pluralist pantheons, but how many of these have set themselves in opposition of those cosmic forces? Is there anything comparable to gnosticism from other parts of the world?
>>43092728And as a follow-up, are there any examples of media similar to those discussed that aren't western, or which haven't broken in to the mainstream?
>>43092730Alphaville by godard.
>>43090763Seconding this. Kind of a peculiar work from a trangressive director since it doesnt fit with his other films. Its more of a long movie than a TV show as its just two 1 and a half hour hour episodes.
>>43090710It's not an obsession, this one actually isn't esoteric at all. Watchmakers display their watches in advertisements with the hands at 10 and 2 because they frame the watch brand logo while not obstructing other watch elements while showing both hands at the same time. Essentially this is the position that allows the watch to be displayed in its full glory. In this particular case it doesn't have anything to do with the numbers. Notice that digital watch ads do not use those numbers.Mickey mouse is a different story. That Tom Hanks wore a Mickey watch is probably some kind of pedo symbolism or a nod to mind control.
>>43091804Jesus is not Lucifer, Lucifer is a tentacle demon.
>>43092876yeah yeah go back to the nobody generals
>>43088229>victim blaming and classic gaslightingInfernal npdemon wrote this.
>>43088229Life is what you make it, live laugh love ass nigga.
>>43092954Live, laugh, love ass?
Its more tapping into universal creative ideas. We have a sense this reality is more than what mundane ideas would have us believe.
>>43087283Maybe Nolan copied the scene as a homage. Either way maybe dont dress up like either of them on Halloween.
>>43089418billy corgan and courtney love groomed d'arcy into becoming a heroin addict, they were trying to create another kurt situation with her, but she broke free from the band before they can do it to her.
>>43093454corgan always came off as fake industry plant to me, i still like the early pumpkins tho
>>43093577He's such a weirdo. He names his caffe after a spirit. I despise that they have some very good songs.
