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Are Parents the ultimate evil entity humans can become?
Something about it makes them unreasonable dickheads who want to ruin you and control you subtly. And society won't let you expose this truth. It's demonic as fuck if you think about it.
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>>43092441
Its generational.
We've strayed too far from the natural order and have been birthed by parasitic people who still believe themselves to be the center of the universe.
Social media is making it worse, and we see it with the increase in children being murdered by their parents.
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>>43092502
There is nothing good about le "natural order" either.
The only reasonable way of existence within the human condition is unironically "monk-mode". Cessation of desires and cravings, severing attachments, non-involvement, non-participation. Parenthood, chasing status, accumulation of material wealth are all opposite of that and feed this world's powers.
Do not play the game or the game will play you.
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>>43092441

Thought it more like finally coming up with something better than my sorry self ... but ... uhm ...
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You have to be at least 18 years old to post here.
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>>43092441
Most parents are incompetent and dangerous. Learn from their mistakes.
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>>43093072
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>>43092502
This isn't far off.
We have indeed lost our baseline, and our parents carry water for the machine and baptise us in it unknowingly.
The human mind is really strange and capable of many stories.
The mistake is thinking that it is a conscious, malicious decision and not the innate emergency protocol running its course.

I truly believe the 'people' with final say have info on these topics and are far, far ahead before we can even begin to calculate where we've been dropped next.
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>>43092508
I'd pushback against parenthood, though I know and appreciate why you're including it.
I've had this argument with anti-natalists in the past.

You are the result of a pairing of lost beings, and you still found your way.
Just because we're born captive does not mean that is our eternal destiny.
We have no earthly idea of where we came from, and thus have no idea of our ceiling or where we are going.
Giving up the ghost has consequences far beyond our knowing and we are in no position to make such a decision at that scale.

Not to mention, the truly evil on this planet would only benefit from such a thing, as we'd leave the planet in their sole stewardship by giving up the one thing we have over them, numbers. They'd just grow their population afterwards, between the lab and AI they don't need us materially for their schemes anymore.
We gain nothing and more importantly, cost them nothing, by checking out deliberately.
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>>43093111
>We gain nothing and more importantly, cost them nothing, by checking out deliberately.
That's just us doing the job for them yet again.
Absolving them of the sin of extermination by opting into the pot yourself.
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>>43092441
you sound like the ultimate faggot OP.
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>>43092441
No.
When your parents met, hormones clouded their judgement, and that led them to create you.
Think of the drastic difference in perception between pre-nut and post-nut. The urge to reproduce is necessarily strong; without it, humanity would reason itself extinct, like what we see in Japan.
So really they were unknowing hostages, they didn't have a plan.

But I get what you mean. My grandparents had something like 6 kids just to run a sweatshop. My mom was 9 when she was up fixing the roof, and she is still working for them to this day. The rest moved very far away.
Even then I don't think the people themselves are evil. Life commands of us, and we are fooled into thinking it's our own voice.
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>>43093111
>the truly evil on this planet would only benefit from such a thing, as we'd leave the planet in their sole stewardship
Maybe this planet deserves it then.
I care about escaping this prison, not about who is in charge of it.
Moreover, parenthood is a huge liability and gives whoever you call the "evil ones" more control and leverage over you. Without a family they can only threaten you with death (and if you are still afraid of death, that's a spiritual skill issue honestly), but with one they have way easier time coercing you into many things just by threatening your spouse and/or children, directly or indirectly.

Also, the uncomfortable truth that most don't want to admit is that breeding does significant amount of spiritual damage to a person and hampers their further development immensely.
Personally I have ample evidence (both observational and intuitive) at this point to be sure of that. You may of course disagree with such a view or call it names, but even from an objective standpoint - consider why monastic orders are (almost) all strictly celibate. Both in Buddhism and in Catholic/Orthodox Christianity (as well as certain strains of Taoism and Hinduism) monks, hermits and ascetics are considered to be the avant garde of spiritual practitioners, and in almost all cases they stay celibate or are at least expected to do so.

Btw, I recommend you watch a movie called Samsara from 2001. It's about a Buddhist monk who decides to try a normie "family guy" life. This subject is covered brilliantly in it imo.
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>>43093111
Boy one day you'll finally realize that 90% of all population is evil.
I mean if it wasn't the case i would agree with you.
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>>43094037
>90% of all population is evil
Explain why you believe this is true, and don't shift the goalposts to "90% of the population is stupid."
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>>43094067
Because 90% prefer to submit to tyranny, except to oppose it.
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(instead of oppose it)
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>>43094101
That isn't evil unless they themselves participate in evil deeds, otherwise its fear and weakness.
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>>43094393
Fear and weakness is okay when you are a 12 year old boy.
It isn't okay when you are a 40 year old. By then it's not fear, but collaboration.
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>>43092583
>questioning parenthood is something only an irrational kid does
>questioning the root of all evil is not something a rational adult does
why do 'groids always imply this
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>>43092441
Don't forget that bringing children into the world means they will suffer.

>>43093111
>as we'd leave the planet in their sole stewardship by giving up the one thing we have over them, numbers.
So how's that working out so far? If numbers really are the way then why are they on top still?

They want great numbersof people so there's more people to exploit. Your children, your parents, and you are only feeding them.
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>>43094466
>By then it's not fear, but collaboration.
sure, believe that is you want.
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>>43092441
Jewish thread.
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>>43093633
>Maybe this planet deserves it then
So the planet that housed and fed you "deserves it" now? Do you see how cynical and nasty this worldview is?
>I care about escaping this prison, not about who is in charge of it.
apparently not about anyone inhabiting it present or future either, only yourself
>Moreover, parenthood is a huge liability and gives whoever you call the "evil ones" more control and leverage over you. Without a family they can only threaten you with death (and if you are still afraid of death, that's a spiritual skill issue honestly), but with one they have way easier time coercing you into many things just by threatening your spouse and/or children, directly or indirectly.
Have nothing so they can't threaten you? This is you plan? You need to think bigger if you presume blackmail is the thing you're going to be avoiding.
>Also, the uncomfortable truth that most don't want to admit is that breeding does significant amount of spiritual damage to a person and hampers their further development immensely.
This is selfish and illogical as you can't have personal growth without the sacrifice from two individual to birth you, you're not paying your gift forward and you're pretending it's a curse in order to frame it as unselfish
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>>43094101
if submission to evil is evil, than deliberately checking out genetically out of resentment and anger is evil by your own logic, as its merely submission to evil in a different form
Protest by suicide is submission
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>>43094466
What should we call suicide if not fear and weakness?

>>43097328
Quit complaining and help me cleanse it with truth
Grab a broom
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>>43094508
>If numbers really are the way then why are they on top still?
I didn't say it was the way I said giving it up ensures that there isn't a way.

>They want great numbersof people
If they did they wouldn't fund abortion clinics and promote anti-natalist ideology. If numbers were the goal controlled demolition would take a backseat to enrichment, however the opposite is happening.

>Your children, your parents, and you are only feeding them
Feeding them what? The things are already built and the institutions are already captured. The average person cannot even fend for themselves. They feed us.
We can be more and do better, and the only way to ensure it doesn't happen is ceasing to be around to do it.
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>>43097390
>So the planet that housed and fed you "deserves it" now?
I don't remember asking for any of it. Imagine not wanting a prison you were wrongfully put in to collapse.
>apparently not about anyone inhabiting it present or future either, only yourself
I'm already doing more than most in not trying to make other inmates' lives worse. Yes, that includes the refusal to create vessels for more inmates.
>You need to think bigger if you presume blackmail is the thing you're going to be avoiding.
Nice vaguepost without any examples. Like I said, I don't fear this vessel's death nor will betray my principles in order to avoid it.
>you can't have personal growth without the sacrifice from two individual to birth you
I never asked them to. Told them directly they've made a huge mistake multiple times.
>you're not paying your gift forward and you're pretending it's a curse
I don't think it's a gift, I do believe it's a curse or something along those lines, no pretense from me. Maybe stop projecting your normalfaggotry and existential fears onto others?
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>>43092441
me when they take my lolipop.



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