i know that there are religious practices that forbit or punish such behavior, like condemning you to hell or sending you into an infinite loop of having to redeem bad karma, but what would be the driving element that makes it so immoral for a punishment of such magnitude ?Do you consume the essence of the other person, like attaining their luck, or mayhaps you alter multiple timelines when you end someone *prematurely*?Why events of mass murder, such as world war 1&2 caused such a shift in our historical trajectory, unless these events were indeed mass human sacrifice? Why aborting babies by the millions also leads to moral degradation of society? is it Moloch style of child sacrifice?Furthermore, why did religious people kill animals, prophets and all kinds of martyrs, then create myths around the sacred murder of these entities, while also shaming murder that is not done in controlled manner? Mayhaps they want to have monopoly over this power?
>>43092729well they distinguish murder (unlawful killing) vs killing (ending a life). murder mostly applies to humans and presupposes that they are members of your tribe. if you went to some random third world slum and "murdered" a human, you might get away with it, although you would still have to be prepared to face persecution by family members or possibly the state (if protection applies). however this is practically rather moot because you'll never go out of your way to do that.more importantly, this is all a mechanism of control as you said. since slaughtering animals and consuming them is the most basic and fundamental form of nourishment and sustenance your body can receive, religious institutions would rather savour this privilege for the noble class (priests...). i'm not 100% sure what their agenda is exactly on a mechanistic level but it's something along those lines. butchers are also allowed to slaughter animals and sell their parts, but this is not for free, of course.i'm not too knowledgable on the matter but it is doubtless an important one. but yeah the morality aspect specifically is very silly because technically animals die all the time for all number of reasons... the idea is just to disincentivize psychopathic and self-destructive behaviour like killing one's own family.sacrificing babies is not necessarily bad. for example the spartans prospered with their eugenics program. but again its not really murder since the child does not attain to personhood until a certain age, and about 2/3 of unborn babies die of natural causes in the womb without anyone even noticing that the mother was pregnant.the WW2 mass sacrifice point you brought up is also interesting but i don't really have much to say on it other than that it's a big deal for obvious reasons.
>>43092755i would argue that all killings are unlawful cases of murder from the perspective of the victims, even if the victims are animals.nobody really wants to be killed by some shady dudes in robes or unhinged single women, even Jesus was sweating balls when his time to get crucified was knocking on the door.also i wouldn't make the argument that the lack of personhood makes it any less of a murder. Everyone seems to argue that children dont have agency to consent to having sex with adults until they reach 18, so if we go by the hypocritical modern standards, they should be asked if they want to be aborted only after their 18th birthday, until then it should be a crime to use your adult brains to influence the choices of these non-sentient creatures - but alas, once again, the hypocrisy of the west never fails, so i am more inclined to view this issue as child sacrifice and ritualistic murder which has some kind of spiritual implications of power transfer
>>43092729>Mayhaps they want to have monopoly over this power?No, not really. All just an elaborate Ersatzhandlung. Atrophied killer instinct I bet. Just not atrophied enough. Not the kinda people you would have handle eliminations.
>>43092729Harming innocent people is jewish behavior. You will pay for it eventually. Respect others.
>>43092809the concept of killing an amoeba is ridiculous and plenty of species are fundamentally structured around the idea of suicide like bees or species that eat their own offspring etc. you can argue that pigs, dogs, cows, cats and apes specifically dont want to be killed but that hardly stops the lion. and the lion certainly doesnt want to starve to death. not to mention that unlimited population growth is impossible, so keeping the population in balance is more so an act of mercy killing than anything. (see rat utopia or various similar analogous situations) the "age of consent" is very arbitrary since the age of criminal responsibility is for example very different even though it makes zero sense. they are random legal terms whereas puberty and attainment of personhood (attaining to theory of mind, being able to remember things...) are grey zones but at least founded in reality.
>>43092729I'll say this:I find it very interesting that many of the ancient cultures that spoke of higher beings walking among us also engaged in cannibalism.
Theres no inherent universal punishment directly from the fabric of the universe. What happens is that you are constantly aurrounded by and being observed by innumerable scores of spirits who all witness your actions. They lean towards indifference in all things but doing horrible shit angers them and causes them to take notice of you and actively work to ruin your existance. Your bad reputation will follow you after death and you will continue to suffer until they decided you've had enough or just move on. Stuff like repentance and attonement can actually work to get them off you but they can tell if you really mean it.
>>43092729Gd fags y'all are stupid and going to deep, it's simple, in a society where murder is rampant and unpunished your life holds no value, so you enjoy existing I would assume, therefore we live in a society where you can assume for the most part the random nigger you cross in the street isn't going to end your consciousness and vice versa
>>43092729You will experience what you put out in another lifeLoser
>>43096654so all the "innocent" beings that get tortured to death actually deserve it from a past lifetime. that's reassuring.
>>43096306Yeah fr, every time I make clear auditory contact with intelligent beings they tell me I have to clean shit up and lift weights, both good aligned and evil spirits have all told me this, clean your living spaces, organize stuff, wash cloth that has been sexed or gooned or ejaculated upon
